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1225 12/1/2023 5:26:00 PM Turn 1 England Message The fixes file includes the Castilian ship placement
1224 12/1/2023 5:26:00 PM Turn 1 England Edit Ducats Ottomans: from 8 to 8
France: from 33 to 33
Castile: from 7 to 7
England: from 6 to 11
Austria: from 17 to 17
Poland: from 13 to 13
1223 12/1/2023 5:26:00 PM Turn 1 England Message England trades. And then adds a fixes file. Two files total. Over to Austria
1222 12/1/2023 5:13:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Oh my gosh, because of course they would put that after the rules on assigning casualties below the Wounded Admirals section, lol.

Perhaps Bill will be kind enough to pop one of my light ships into the Western Med.
1221 12/1/2023 5:08:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Message If you roll a "1" in a naval battle when eliminating your opponent's force, you also get to capture an enemy ship you hit instead of sinking it.
1220 12/1/2023 5:06:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Over to England
1219 12/1/2023 4:59:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message With only 1 Portuguese ship, Castille loses one and sinks the Portuguese ship
1218 12/1/2023 4:57:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

1
2
6
1
4
4


Message from Castile:
In the Western Med, it is 3 dice apiece, Castile on top
1217 12/1/2023 4:57:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Castile is still sunk many times over
1216 12/1/2023 4:56:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 8

4
6
4
5
5
5
4
5


Message from Castile:
Alright, managed to bollix up the naval battles. In the Central Atlantic, 3 dice for Castile, 3 dice for Portugal. Draw for a Portuguese leader is Vlad, with two white dice. These will be the last two
1215 12/1/2023 4:51:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Hi Darren, you're right, I rolled one per ship. Fortunately, I did the land battle correctly
1214 12/1/2023 4:50:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message I count 5 hits for Castile, 1 hit for Portugal. Castile loses 1 inf. With only 2 inf ramaining, Portugal will retreat.
1213 12/1/2023 4:48:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Message Mike, I'm not sure what you were doing in those naval battles - you were supposed to roll 3 blue dice for each side, not 1 die per ship.
1212 12/1/2023 4:45:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 9

5
1
2
3
3
6
5
3
6


Message from Castile:
Carlos adds 3 white dice, so Castile will roll 6 white dice. Last 3 are Portugal
1211 12/1/2023 4:44:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Castile:
In Andalucia, I count an MC of 7 for Portugal. My army is 8 infantry, 3 cav, and 2 art led by Carlos. The draw for a Portuguese general is an advisor.
1210 12/1/2023 4:34:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message One hit apiece, I win that area and regain a mil point
1209 12/1/2023 4:33:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

3
5
5


Message from Castile:
They all miss and we go to round 2
1208 12/1/2023 4:32:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

2
1
1


Message from Castile:
In the Western Med, I have 2 ships, the Portuguese 1. Castillian dice first
1207 12/1/2023 4:30:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message I miss and my ship is sunk
1206 12/1/2023 4:27:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

3
6
2
3
4
1


Message from Castile:
Central Atlantic, 1 Castillian versus 5 Portuguese. Castillian first
1205 12/1/2023 4:27:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message I will do naval battles first. I see battles in the central Atlantic and the Western Med. Portugal can field 5 light ships in the central Atlantic (from Lisboa, Porto, Madeira, and Gibraltar to protect Lisboa) and 1 in the western Med (from Ceuta).
1204 12/1/2023 3:27:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Yup, be off work shortly
1203 12/1/2023 2:56:00 PM Turn 1 England Message Castile is still up.

1202 11/30/2023 10:12:00 AM Turn 1 Castile Message Will do
1201 11/30/2023 10:08:00 AM Turn 1 England Message Spain, use my last file for the battles -- we can make fixes from there (as with the AUstrian ducats)
1200 11/30/2023 10:07:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Message No, wait, it's not my turn!

It's still Spain's turn, and he has three naval and one land battles with Portugal to resolve. And then it's England to play before me.

I'll delete my file. Back to Spain!
1199 11/30/2023 10:02:00 AM Turn 1 England Message I'll add it once we know things are set since my turn is coming up
1198 11/30/2023 10:02:00 AM Turn 1 England Message Now I'm down to one DIP instead of 2.
1197 11/30/2023 10:00:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Edit Ducats Ottomans: from 8 to 8
France: from 33 to 33
Castile: from 7 to 7
England: from 6 to 6
Austria: from 20 to 17
Poland: from 13 to 13
1196 11/30/2023 10:00:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Message 2.R1.039 - (Aus) Influence in Bohemia.gmv

I place influence in BOHEMIA and Silesia.
1195 11/30/2023 9:54:00 AM Turn 1 Castile Message Thank you for running that down
1194 11/30/2023 9:53:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Message I get the first mismatch between file 034 and 035, and the latest English file is at least missing my merchanting (and the money!) in Krakow.

I have used the game state in 034 as starting point and added all of Castille's and Englands moves. That ought to solve it, but everyone should check.
1193 11/30/2023 9:42:00 AM Turn 1 England Message No harm really. Had my coffee ready:) Not sure where the issue was but it's fixed.
1192 11/30/2023 9:41:00 AM Turn 1 Castile Message Hi Bill--I had no errors with any of the files after yours, which would not be the case if I didn't use your file. I can check the log when I get home--it certainly doesn't beggar the imagination that I messed up somewhere.
1191 11/30/2023 8:19:00 AM Turn 1 England Edit Prestige Ottomans: from 36 to 36
France: from 25 to 25
Castile: from 15 to 15
England: from 11 to 9
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 33 to 33
1190 11/30/2023 8:19:00 AM Turn 1 England Message Final file
Correcting the tag on Shrewd Trade Practices, playing and releasing the Study Tech card which allowed me to get Shrewd Trade, and adjusting prestige.

It looks as if my move file hadn't been loaded by Castile, maybe?

All good.

2.R1.038 - (Eng) Other corrections
1189 11/30/2023 8:13:00 AM Turn 1 England Message I find that at the start of the Castilian gmv, my Prestige is set to 9, not 11, the DIP cubes are back on the mat, and the Shrewd Trade practices are not set. I'm going to go through the files I've created to make sure that I'm set, but others might want to check.
1188 11/30/2023 8:10:00 AM Turn 1 England Message Also just created this file because I still had the 4 DIP on my mat which should have been spent for the Shrewd trade practices.

ANd now I note that my tag on the shrewd trade practices is gone.
1187 11/30/2023 8:08:00 AM Turn 1 England Message File created

2.R1.036 - (Eng) Refuse CTA
1186 11/30/2023 7:57:00 AM Turn 1 England Message I will take the prestige hit and refuse the CtA. As I understand things, the alliance goes away as do the 2 Influence in Portugal, but the marriage survives. Sorry, dear.
1185 11/29/2023 5:11:00 PM Turn 1 England Message A few calls this evening but I will try to respond.
1184 11/29/2023 4:46:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Carlos I takes command of Army 1 in the field. Then, spend 1 Mil to declare war on Portugal with our claim on Andalucia as a CB. Portugal will call England to arms to honor their alliance. How does England respond?

For England, my aim is a white peace with Portugal to gain Andalucia.
1183 11/29/2023 9:30:00 AM Turn 1 France Message France colonizes. Castille is up.
1182 11/28/2023 4:49:00 PM Turn 1 England Message Brian,

France is up.
1181 11/27/2023 6:19:00 AM Turn 1 Ottomans Message My ducat total was incorrect - I hadn't deducted the 4d I spent on the "Barbarossa the Corsair" Event to Vassalize Algeria. (It is now correct.)
1180 11/27/2023 6:17:00 AM Turn 1 Ottomans Edit Ducats Ottomans: from 10 to 8
France: from 33 to 33
Castile: from 7 to 7
England: from 6 to 6
Austria: from 20 to 20
Poland: from 13 to 13
1179 11/27/2023 6:16:00 AM Turn 1 Ottomans Message 2.R1.033 - (Ott) Trade

I traded too but got a stack of useless cards, so just the 2d for me.

To France.
1178 11/27/2023 4:51:00 AM Turn 1 Poland Message (Poland's Prestige actually went from 31 to 33; the number wasn't up to date here)
1177 11/27/2023 4:50:00 AM Turn 1 Poland Edit Prestige Ottomans: from 35 to 36
France: from 25 to 25
Castile: from 15 to 15
England: from 11 to 11
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 30 to 33
1176 11/27/2023 4:50:00 AM Turn 1 Poland Message 2.R1.032 - (Pol) Research Inquisition

As a minor action, >Poland Cuts Ties and removes Influence in BOHEMIA
As the main action this turn, >Poland Researches Inquisition
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Instant effect: Gain 1 Cardinal
Prestige: 2 for >Poland, 1 for >Ottomans

Also made a small correction: >Castile didn't pay 1 MIL for Land Activation

Over to >Ottomans

1175 11/25/2023 5:25:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Edit Ducats Ottomans: from 10 to 10
France: from 33 to 33
Castile: from 7 to 7
England: from 6 to 6
Austria: from 16 to 20
Poland: from 13 to 13
1174 11/25/2023 5:22:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Message 2.R1.031 - (Aus) Moving merchant.gmv

Forgot to move the pawn.
1173 11/25/2023 5:20:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Message 2.R1.030 - (Aus) Trade.gmv

Austria trades salt for 4d.

Over to Poland. (Remember our deal.)
1172 11/25/2023 4:44:00 PM Turn 1 England Message England tags Shrew Trade Practices by Action card

2.R1.029 - (Eng) Shrewd Trade

Austria is up
1171 11/25/2023 4:44:00 PM Turn 1 England Edit Prestige Ottomans: from 35 to 35
France: from 25 to 25
Castile: from 15 to 15
England: from 9 to 11
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 30 to 30
1170 11/25/2023 10:55:00 AM Turn 1 Castile Message Land Activation for Castile, Army 2 by sea to Andalucia, combine with army 1. Over to England
1169 11/24/2023 3:44:00 PM Turn 1 France Message Change focus, discard cards, take Subjugate.
1168 11/22/2023 5:55:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Message 2.R1.026 - (Ott) Subjugate Tlemcen

I spent 1 DP to Subjugate Tlemcen and its two provinces in Algiers. I also finally got around to repopulating the Admin Card discard pile.

To France.
1167 11/22/2023 3:33:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Message Agreed.
1166 11/22/2023 3:16:00 PM Turn 1 Poland Message Forgot that I also had to respond to >Austria about removing Influence from BOHEMIA. Would you agree to let me Vassalize >Saxony in return? Needed for a Mission and I can promise not to interfere if you later try to conquer those Provinces. Might be a good way for you to expand in HRE. How does that sound?
1165 11/22/2023 2:41:00 PM Turn 1 Poland Message 2.R1.025 - (Pol) Develop Province
Lublin became a Large Town

To >Ottomans
1164 11/22/2023 2:15:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Edit Ducats Ottomans: from 10 to 10
France: from 33 to 33
Castile: from 7 to 7
England: from 6 to 6
Austria: from 12 to 16
Poland: from 13 to 13
1163 11/22/2023 2:15:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Message 2.R1.024 - (Aus) Trade.gmv

Traded wine in Saxony for 4d.

Over to Poland.
1162 11/22/2023 1:55:00 PM Turn 1 England Message England changes focus.

1 ADM and 1 MIL to DIP

2.R1.023 - (Eng) Change Focus

Austria is up
1161 11/22/2023 12:53:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message I choose the Italian Wars II event. France gains a claim in Sicily (already has one in Naples) and Castile gains 3 Mil. Fernando V passes to his just reward and Carlos I becomes King. File posted, on to England.
1160 11/21/2023 10:26:00 AM Turn 1 France Message France discovers Bahia in South America. Castille is up.
1159 11/21/2023 10:24:00 AM Turn 1 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from France:
Exploration in South-Western Atlantic.
1158 11/21/2023 6:13:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Message Place in ALGIERS. No file.
1157 11/20/2023 6:50:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Message 2.R1.020 - (Ott) Barbarossa the Corsair

I took this event to gain an African foothold...and unfortunately Austria, and more specifically Venetia, kinda suffered a bit from it. Nothing personal - just business. (And I didn't really want to target you, but the alternative was targeting you and two other people, and thereby putting three targets on my newly acquired Vassal instead of one.)

Austria has to choose whether to place a Claim in Algiers or Tunisia, but if Brian is ready first, I reckon he should go ahead and make his next French move. (France is now up.)
1156 11/20/2023 12:30:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Message (just syncing up those totals to what the map says)
1155 11/20/2023 12:29:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Edit Prestige Ottomans: from 33 to 35
France: from 21 to 25
Castile: from 15 to 15
England: from 9 to 9
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 30 to 30
1154 11/20/2023 11:50:00 AM Turn 1 England Message I'll be on the road most of the day both tomorrow and Saturday but will have my laptop with me so will be responsive (except while driving, of course).

BC
1153 11/20/2023 11:50:00 AM Turn 1 England Message Done. Along with adjusting the alliance marker

2.R1.0198 - (Eng) Mission Release
1152 11/20/2023 11:10:00 AM Turn 1 Poland Message 2.R1.018 - (Pol) Naval Activation
Moved my ships back to BLACK SEA

Over to >Ottomans


P.S. a couple of things about previous turns:

Regarding >Castilian turn: Only Own Provinces can be used to build Ships, so Vassals don't count. That is different from Recruiting Land Units, which works also with Vassal Provinces

>English Mission cards that were just scored are still owned by England. William, please release ownership

1151 11/19/2023 8:14:00 AM Turn 1 England Message Mhumhain, yes. If the next file maker coiuld move the Alliance marker to reflect that, I would be most appreciative.

We'll see how it plays out.
1150 11/19/2023 4:10:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Message England, which realm in IRELAND did you ally with? Mhumhain? (The ally marker should be placed on the capital.)

(I think you should have taken the claim, btw. To me it looks much easier to conquer the Irish mini-kingdoms than diplo them.)
1149 11/19/2023 3:59:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Message Looks fine.

2.R1.017 - (Aus) Land move.gmv

Austria gathers its troops in AUSTRIA.

Over to Poland.
1148 11/18/2023 10:00:00 PM Turn 1 England Message CHecking MC and NC

1 unit in Brittany uses the MC of Normandie

4 units in East Anglia use Essex, Oxford, and London

Navel
2 ship into the fleet use 2 from the large port of Wessex

I believe I have this correct.
1147 11/18/2023 9:44:00 PM Turn 1 England Edit Prestige Ottomans: from 33 to 33
France: from 21 to 21
Castile: from 15 to 15
England: from 7 to 9
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 30 to 30
1146 11/18/2023 9:44:00 PM Turn 1 England Edit Ducats Ottomans: from 10 to 10
France: from 33 to 33
Castile: from 7 to 7
England: from 36 to 6
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 13 to 13
1145 11/18/2023 9:43:00 PM Turn 1 England Message Recruit action

2.R1.016 - (Eng) Recruit

1 MIL paid
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2 heavy ships [into the fleet]

20 ducats
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Build 5 intantry
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10 Ducats
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4 into new Army 1 in East Anglia
1 to Army 2 in Brittany.

No threat to France
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Claiming missions
The Admiralty
Lev[y] the Troops

Net 2 Prestige
2 DIP for Admiralty
No free appointment however

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Gain a Claim in Scotland
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And a claim in Ireland
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Change, Alliance in Ireland
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Over to Austria
1144 11/18/2023 8:05:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Edit Ducats Ottomans: from 10 to 10
France: from 33 to 33
Castile: from 23 to 7
England: from 36 to 36
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 13 to 13
1143 11/18/2023 8:05:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Castile recruits 2inf and builds 3 light ships. Over to England
1142 11/18/2023 4:17:00 PM Turn 1 France Message France does a naval activation, claims a Milestone, and completes a Mission.
1141 11/17/2023 10:10:00 PM Turn 1 France Message I was thinking I had to claim the Milestone during my turn, so learned something new. I am good either way.

Busy work today, will get to my move tomorrow.
1140 11/17/2023 9:31:00 AM Turn 1 Castile Message None from me
1139 11/17/2023 9:26:00 AM Turn 1 England Message None from me.
1138 11/17/2023 9:25:00 AM Turn 1 Austria Message None here either.
1137 11/17/2023 9:24:00 AM Turn 1 Poland Message No objections from me
1136 11/17/2023 8:51:00 AM Turn 1 Ottomans Message The answer to this rules question on Discord (from @Mikhs) is that you are not forced to claim a Milestone - you only do so when you want to.

That then begs the question of whether or not we should allow France to retroactively claim this Milestone first. I know in the other PBEM game I'm playing with several of you, there was a Milestone which I'd forgotten I was able to claim, and it took me quite a few turns to realize I could claim it...and I only did claim it then. But frankly, I'm happy to let Brian decide how he wants to resolve this for France, if that works for everyone else.
1135 11/17/2023 7:32:00 AM Turn 1 England Message I have no problem with seeding the discard pile (I'd better not since I was the idiot who caused the problem).

I think Milestones are claimable as the player decides rather than be automatic.
1134 11/17/2023 5:03:00 AM Turn 1 Poland Message I'm fine with drawing random cards for discard pile.


Regarding Milestones, I'm not sure what's correct. Rules are not clear on this, but when I first read them I also had an impression that completing Milestones is automatic. However, on Discord server people have claimed that Milestones may be delayed like Missions, and I now lean towards this interpretation, just because it makes things more consistent in my opinion.

I guess we simply need to agree on a ruling. I'm fine with either option.

And something to be aware of regarding this decision: In most cases there is no reason for a player to want to delay completing a Milestone, but there are at least two cases when it might be desired:
- Sometimes scoring immediately wastes some of the reward (if player's Monarch Power pool is full or if extra ducats will bring them over corruption threshold)
- Completing "Dismantle the HRE" (Diplomatic Milestone, Age IV) sets Authority to 0, so the Emperor might not want to score it even if they meet the requirements (Occupy, Own, or Vassalize all Provinces in 3+ original Elector Areas)

1133 11/16/2023 10:24:00 PM Turn 1 Castile Message Restocking the discard is fine with me
1132 11/16/2023 8:35:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Message > Agreed

To making a discard pile, that is.
1131 11/16/2023 8:35:00 PM Turn 1 Austria Message Agreed.

> do you immediately and automatically score
> Milestones without having to claim them as such?

Now that you mention it, I think you do. The rules do not say explicitly, but formulations like "The first player to complete a Milestone scores 5 VP" and "The tie breaker, if several players complete a Milestone at the same time, is Turn order" imply that it is completion, not claiming, that counts.
1130 11/16/2023 7:12:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Message The Prestige figures I just changed here in ACTS reflect France getting 5 Prestige for the Milestone, and me getting 3 for the Milestone + 2 for Researching the Idea. (If that's correct, I'd ask France to change the Prestige in his next move file.)

By the way, I'm uncomfortable with there not being 5+ Admin cards in the Discard Pile, following the mistaken reshuffling of all of the Admin cards at the start of this Round. (It is important for such cards to be in place for a number of different purposes.) Before starting my turn, I actually tried to restore the 5 cards that should have remained in place...but it seems as though several of them have already been drawn by other players, so it wasn't possible to fix that. I'm inclined to suggest that we remedy this by immediately drawwing 3 random cards from the deck and adding them to the bottom of the discard pile so that we do have enough cards in place there; how would everyone else feel about that?
1129 11/16/2023 7:07:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Edit Prestige Ottomans: from 28 to 33
France: from 16 to 21
Castile: from 15 to 15
England: from 7 to 7
Austria: from 12 to 12
Poland: from 30 to 30
1128 11/16/2023 7:07:00 PM Turn 1 Ottomans Message 2.R1.013 - (Ott) Research, Milestone

I spent 5 AP to Research "Church Attendance Duty", which allowed me to complete the "Innovative Administration" Milestone (having now Researched 4+ Ideas), gaining 2 AP back as well as removing Unrest from Smederevo. Between the two I also gain 7 Prestige.

(Actually, having said that...do you immediately and automatically score Milestones without having to claim them as such? If so, France started Age II with 4 Ideas already Researched, so perhaps I should only get 3 Prestige instead of 5 for the Milestone, and France should immediately get 5 Prestige + 2 AP before starting her next turn.)

Either way, France is now up.
1127 11/15/2023 12:32:00 PM Turn 1 Poland Message > Poland, what can I offer you for to cut ties with the influence in BOHEMIA?

I'll think about it and let you know before my next Turn
1126 11/15/2023 12:31:00 PM Turn 1 Poland Message 2.R1.012 - (Pol) Event Inheritance of Mazovia

Inheritance of Mazovia for option A.
First, moving round status marker and adding 2d to other Events
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Option A:
Warszawa becomes a >Polish Small Town and >Poland gains 1 ADM.
Also, as >Poland now Owns all Provinces in MAZOVIA & MALOPOLSKA, there can't be any Influence
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Zygmunt II August is the new king of >Poland
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Now drawing a new Event
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New Event is Plague
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Over to >Ottomans

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