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| Entry # | Time | Turn | Player | Title | Entry |
| 594 | 2/9/2026 12:14:00 PM | Master ID = 68263 | Game Deleted | ||
| 593 | 2/9/2026 12:14:00 PM | Turn 4 | Moderator | Change Paris player | Paris player changed from Andy to Steven B |
| 592 | 2/9/2026 12:13:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
I'm calling this game based on one person's continued toxicity. Andy, It is sad that you can't let an issue drop - even when the entire group is trying to reason with you. It is also concerning that you take this so personally and need to resort to childish name-calling over what is simply a game. This is the reason I blocked email contact with you, and I am not alone in being unwilling to listen to it any longer. The rest of us will discuss how we move forward after this game. |
| 591 | 2/8/2026 8:57:00 AM | Turn 4 | Genoa | Message |
I feel it sad, that by your age, you cannot listen and understand other point of view. However, maybe you never question yourself and that will explain things. Sorry for you, it might be another experience that you will not understand completely when people will leave the game. I did my best keeping it quiet, but also wanted to help you in some way |
| 590 | 2/7/2026 10:10:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Lt's see if we can agree on a few things. AoR is designed to be a game where each faction is trying to win. Agreed? There currently is a faction that is not playing to win but playing to make another faction lose. Agreed? The toxicity in the game comes from the player that is not playing to win not that his victim dares to point it out. Agreed? Whichever of Barcelona, London, or Venice wins honestly and fairly beat two players not four as Genoa is not trying to win and spending every resource to stop Paris from winning. Agreed? Winning a three player game is still winning and whichever of the three does deserves praise for beating two other players. Agreed? It is unreasonable to not only get an improved chance to win from a player attacking another but also require the victim keep quiet so you don't feel bad about it. Agreed? |
| 589 | 2/7/2026 1:29:00 AM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
It seems like I picked a bad time to have a busy week at work. For the record, my expansion phase was based entirely on my hand and what cards I knew/assumed others have in theirs. I know there is a wool card in play - I went after wool. I know there is a grain or famine in play - I went after grain. And one can pretty easily guess what I did with timber. At this point, for the game to continue we need to agree that the kibbitzing needs to end, and that we will keep public talk to resolving the rules and friendly chat only. This is a game - there is nothing personal at stake, and it is meant to be enjoyable. That is all there is to it at this point - no further accusations, no name-calling, no complaints about persecution, etc. Can we all agree on that and move forward? |
| 588 | 2/6/2026 5:19:00 PM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
I'm not blaming anyone for the game turning toxic. I'm just stating a fact. Each person can have their own opinion as to the cause. What's more important is what people want to do moving forward. There just seems to be a lot of bad feelings going around. At this point, I think its safe to say that Paris, Genoa, and Venice all feel they are being attacked unfairly. For example, Venice thinks me and Barcelona are attacking him because of what Paris said. I tried to let him know that it wasn't, but I can still understand why he would think so. So what do we want to do? Call it quits? It just doesn't seem like a good idea to continue. This game isn't ranked or in a tournament. Nobody's elo score will be affected. I just don't see how we can have a good game moving forward, and that's my ultimate goal, a good game. |
| 587 | 2/6/2026 4:09:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
"Paris, I have nothing to do with your issue with Genoa. He is not trying to make me win. Something happened between both of you and I have nothing to do with it." I stated his behavior that makes me believe he is trying to make you win. Absent a refutation of my analysis your posting "he isnt' gets treated with the same respect as your claim that London was way ahead in Doms when you were tied. And even if Genoa is simply incredibly bad do you deny you have been the main beneficiary from his expansion limitations? And you certainly talk to Genoa enough to have known he was playing Walter last turn. "I am not willing to play anymore if you keep talking that way to other players. And by complaining about Genoa and saying he is trying to make me win you are distorting the game as London and Barcelona are listening to you and attacking me even when I am not leading." So Barcelona and London should let you cruise to a win? You spent roughly $20 less on tokens than they did last turn; if after the turn they have not improved vs you by that $20 and the value of your three token card they are poor players. Now if they had a good enough commodity; say Silk, that improvement can take the form of sweeping their commodity but if not that means they need to deny you your commodity. And you are wrong to claim you are not leading albeit currently Barcelona is leading with you. Again with the do not blame the person that is not playing to win but blame his victim for daring to mention it. "I don't want to read long messages. I don't want to complain to be listened by other players. I want to have fun playing" So do I. Of course, I find being attacked by a person not trying to win not fun. I wonder how Barcelona, Venice, or London would feel if I treated them as Genoa is treating me. Certainly if OK when I'm the victim OK when one of them is as well. |
| 586 | 2/6/2026 3:51:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
London seems sad that rather than blame the person that is actively not trying to win you blame their target for the game being toxic. I listed how much Genoa will cost me on average (3 Doms a turn plus one bad cardplay). You are correct I am currently ahead of you; in fact I am currently roughly tied with Venice/Barcelona, but if you think that makes me ahead in chances to win imagine if it was you that was going to lose those 3 Doms a turn. Do you think it would harm your chances? |
| 585 | 2/6/2026 11:59:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
For the record, I do agree with Venice that this game has gotten toxic. I know Genoa hasn't been playing optimal but neither have I. I haven't played this game in 30 years and I HATE the cyberboard interface. So it gives me even less incentive to look at the map. I don't believe Paris is out of this game; I think Paris is ahead of me. The only reason I didn't attack him last round was because of Stirrups, and it had nothing to do with what he has been saying. |
| 584 | 2/6/2026 11:33:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Paris, I have nothing to do with your issue with Genoa. He is not trying to make me win. Something happened between both of you and I have nothing to do with it. I am not willing to play anymore if you keep talking that way to other players. And by complaining about Genoa and saying he is trying to make me win you are distorting the game as London and Barcelona are listening to you and attacking me even when I am not leading. I don't want to read long messages. I don't want to complain to be listened by other players. I want to have fun playing |
| 583 | 2/6/2026 11:23:00 AM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Whereas I know you have trying to give the game to Venice from T1 and explained why I believe it is true. What a pathetic loser to not even try to win yourself. My move should fail as I needed to get all 5 Metal for 1 Metal card to be able to keep me in contention. |
| 582 | 2/6/2026 8:18:00 AM | Turn 4 | Genoa | Message |
I’m going to post this simply because it’s already been ten messages of weaning from Paris. If I’ve played it this way, it’s only because you can’t follow a plan and I don’t trust you. That being said, I believe you can’t handle it and are looking for excuses because it’s too big for you. |
| 581 | 2/6/2026 2:13:00 AM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Uploaded T4 End of Turn map and 017 T4 End of Turn to Dropbox |
| 580 | 2/5/2026 9:41:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
I believe no card on the Shortage as London and Venice each have 2. I see Venice as having 2 Silk while Paris and Barcelona have 1 each so -$2 to Venice. Agreed? |
| 579 | 2/5/2026 8:48:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
Literally swapped from last turn. Shortage on Grain Surplus on Silk |
| 578 | 2/5/2026 8:45:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 5 5 6 Message from Barcelona: Shortage/Surplus roll #2: 1-Black 2-White 3-Green |
| 577 | 2/5/2026 8:44:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 1 4 3 Message from Barcelona: Shortage/Surplus roll 1 - Black 2 - White 3 - Green |
| 576 | 2/5/2026 8:43:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Draw card | |
| 575 | 2/5/2026 8:21:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
My view on how much money everyone has at start of next turn subject to Surplus/Shortage rolls. Venice: $6 + $75 = $81 12 Doms Genoa: $9 + $60 = $69 7 Doms Barcelona: $10 + $90 = $100 15 Doms Paris: $14 + $95 = $109 16 Doms London: $2 + $70 = $72 11 Doms |
| 574 | 2/5/2026 5:01:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Venice: "Given that Barcelona and London have way more provinces, I am not leading anymore. I have slightly more tech but less costly tech (no seaworthy vessels)... BCN and LND will reach the eastern world first. And get a huge edge for commodities" Whereas you have an edge in the race to Cathedral and Interest and Profit. Strangely enough being ahead in total advances means that if you are behind them in some fields you are ahead in others and you picked which fields you cared about most. You picked HI and W/W over Seaworthy Vessels and I certainly agree that HI was given your position a better choice. You picked UA and W/W over Seaworthy Vessels. Not as certain but I think either path was reasonable. And by my count you were tied with London when you wrote this so "way behind" was a mistake and my message on what should I do made clear you were not a target but both London and; if I rolled slightly better, Barcelona would be. Genoa is distorting the game with their play as otherwise I would be one of the leaders but in your three player game I rank Barcelona(assuming one Timber card) and Venice as even with London behind you both but close enough to be interesting. If I draw 2 Metal cards even with Genoa it is a 4 player game for first. If I get 1 Metal card I am in 4th but close enough that I can try this again. If I have no Metal cards well that is why what I did is only done by people that need a lot of luck to be competitive. BTW notice I did exactly what I claimed Genoa should have done to try to get back into contention. |
| 573 | 2/5/2026 4:19:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Will be able to post updated map late tonight my time so roughly 10-12 hours from now unless someone wishes to do earlier By my count Barcelona with 4 new Doms first gets the expansion card |
| 572 | 2/5/2026 4:16:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Summary Paris Expansion Constantinople 7 Dom Lyons 7 Fails Lyons 7 Dom Chester 5 fails Chester 5 Dom Waterford 3 Dom |
| 571 | 2/5/2026 4:13:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Waterford falls |
| 570 | 2/5/2026 4:13:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 6 3 3 Message from Paris: Current tokens: 3 Spending 3 tokens to attack Waterford Remaining tokens: 0 B/W/C |
| 569 | 2/5/2026 4:11:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Chester falls |
| 568 | 2/5/2026 4:11:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 3 2 2 Message from Paris: Current tokens: 8 Spend 5 tokens to attack Chester Remaining token: 3 B/W/C |
| 567 | 2/5/2026 4:10:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Chester fails |
| 566 | 2/5/2026 4:10:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 1 6 5 Message from Paris: Current tokens: 13 Spending 5 tokens to attack Chester(only established satellites help defend) Remaining tokens: 8 B/W/C |
| 565 | 2/5/2026 4:04:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Lyons falls on Black die greater than or equal to(given I have Stirrups) White die |
| 564 | 2/5/2026 4:03:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 2 1 3 Message from Paris: Current tokens: 20 Spending 7 tokens to attack Lyons Remaining tokens: 13 B/W/C |
| 563 | 2/5/2026 4:02:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Lyons fails |
| 562 | 2/5/2026 4:02:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 1 2 4 Message from Paris: Current tokens: 27 Spending 7 tokens to attack Lyons Remaining tokens: 20 B/W/C |
| 561 | 2/5/2026 3:59:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Constantinople falls on the Green 6 |
| 560 | 2/5/2026 3:59:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 3 5 6 Message from Paris: Starting tokens: 34 Spending 7 tokens to attack Constantinople Remaining tokens: 27 B/W/C |
| 559 | 2/5/2026 3:53:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
London I agree IF everyone had a player dedicated to destroying their position I could play differently but let's look at facts. Genoa has used every token and every bad card vs me. Can you name another player that is in that position? |
| 558 | 2/5/2026 1:59:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
+ BCN is gonna make a decent amount of money with wood And BCN and LND will make good money with wool. So I am not leading anymore and I have no edge. |
| 557 | 2/4/2026 2:32:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Given that Barcelona and London have way more provinces, I am not leading anymore. I have slightly more tech but less costly tech (no seaworthy vessels)... BCN and LND will reach the eastern world first. And get a huge edge for commodities |
| 556 | 2/4/2026 1:54:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
I don't know, but it seems like putting your money where your mouth is, where you should go, i.e., attacking Venice. |
| 555 | 2/3/2026 10:12:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Having given opinions on what others should do I thought it might be fun to get others opinions on my projected move and reasoning. Two assumptions/conditions: Genoa will not change so any move that cannot with enough luck offset that can be ignored. I will lose rather than break a deal. To get the amount of cash needed I need try to get a large Commodity payout next turn. Stone, Ivory, Fur, and Gold can not pay. Silk has two live cards but can not get into Area V so absent Shortage can not pay enough. I can only hold two Spice so clearly that is a bad gamble. Grain and Timber have been fought over so likely someone holds relevant cards and not being able to go into Area V limits payouts. That leaves Cloth, Wine, Wool and Metal. Cloth has an issue I can not attack Budapest this turn and Genoa and Venice are both capitals so max payout is $80. Wine Marseilles is a 5 and Barcelona requires 10 tokens. I can not roll again on either. Now Wool is tempting and if not for knowing what Genoa is doing likely my choice. I can roll on up to 7 of them but odds are I have 5 or 6 meaning $50 or $72. Again with Genoa too small. As I see it I only have one choice. Thoughts? |
| 554 | 2/3/2026 5:50:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
That was a pretty awesome set of rolls for my turn. I'm notoriously unlucky with six-sided dice, so I'm sure that will come back to bite me later in the game! |
| 553 | 2/3/2026 3:47:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
BTW I am certain it was a mistake but by my count you had 18 Doms after your turn and lost 6 so currently 12. I started with 16 and have lost 4 so also 12. So no I currently do not have more than you. Armor and position are powerful. He should lose 60 out of 216 rolls so he is roughly 1 satellite above average luck. |
| 552 | 2/3/2026 3:41:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
See message 540 for attack roll on Barca. See adjacent messages for rolls on other satellites. Yes if Genoa was not playing as he is I would be happy. Of course I would not have advised the other players as I did because it would not be true. On average I expect Genoa to cost me a 3 Doms a turn plus one more harmful card play(CW, P/V, BD, or a Military Advantage that raise the loss that turn by roughly 2 Dom). In many ways this has created a distorted game. First his giving you the extra Dom which also gave you two expansion cards. Fortunately for everyone else you drew miserably in your E1 cards compared to average. Second it creates a 3 player game absent me getting very lucky. Admittedly I am going to try to get lucky but who should they fear more; the person who has to get very lucky or the person currently ahead of them When you are way ahead in a 3 player game what do you expect to happen if the other two players are trying to win? You spent $20+ less in tokens this turn; if those going later do not make you pay for that they do not play well. |
| 551 | 2/3/2026 3:38:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
you are right. I missed these entries. that's a LOT of luck rolling the dice ! |
| 550 | 2/3/2026 3:37:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
Athens flips. Over to Paris. Here's my corrected turn summary: Total - 28 tokens Poti (Fail) - 4 Poti (DOM)- 4 Sevilla (DOM) - 5 Smyrna (DOM) - 3 Dubrovnik (DOM) - 6 Abasgia - 1 Adalia - 1 Barca - 1 Kaffa - 1 Toulouse - 1 Athens - 1 |
| 549 | 2/3/2026 3:35:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 5 3 1 Message from Barcelona: Attacking Athens - 1 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 548 | 2/3/2026 3:34:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
Sorry, satellite attacks are messages #538-541 - doing my turn off of my phone. I forgot Stirrups didn't apply against armor. I'll use the last token to attack Athens |
| 547 | 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
I did roll dice for the satellite attacks. Journal messages #539-542 |
| 546 | 2/3/2026 3:24:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Barca is not free. You need to roll the die Same for my other satellites. I sent a map in PDF. Have a look at it and update your moves. That's a lot of illegal moves. 1 MI per mistakes? :) Paris, I bet you must be happy. They did what you asked :) I have less province than you and you have not played yet. |
| 545 | 2/3/2026 3:23:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
From the AoR cards reference on BGG Win all ties on attack this turn, including War. +1 to your competition totals this turn on offense and defense except vs house currently using Armor. May combine with Armor. Voided by Long Bow or Gunpowder, becoming unplayable Misery Burden. |
| 544 | 2/3/2026 3:19:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Are you sure? I thought it would cancel each other so it costs 4+1-1=4 |
| 543 | 2/3/2026 3:10:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Smyrna only cost you 3 tokens as Stirrups does not add 1 to total vs player using Armor so you have 1 more token to use. |
| 542 | 2/3/2026 3:00:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
Kaffa flips. Last token on Toulouse. Total - 28 tokens Poti (Fail) - 4 Poti (DOM)- 4 Sevilla (DOM) - 5 Smyrna (DOM) - 4 Dubrovnik (DOM) - 6 Abasgia - 1 Adalia - 1 Barca - 1 Kaffa - 1 Toulouse - 1 |
| 541 | 2/3/2026 2:56:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 4 2 3 Message from Barcelona: Barca flips. Attacking Kaffa - 1 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 540 | 2/3/2026 2:51:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 5 4 3 Message from Barcelona: Adalia flips on Green die. Attacking Barca - 1 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 539 | 2/3/2026 2:50:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 1 5 5 Message from Barcelona: Abasgia flips. Attacking Adalia - 1 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 538 | 2/3/2026 2:48:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 2 1 2 Message from Barcelona: Dubrovnik flips due to green die. Attacking Abasgia (or whatever the satellite is next to Poti) - 1 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 537 | 2/3/2026 2:46:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 2 4 6 Message from Barcelona: Smyrna flips. Attacking Dubrovnik - 6 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 536 | 2/3/2026 2:44:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 4 2 5 Message from Barcelona: Sevilla flips. Attacking Smyrna - 4 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 535 | 2/3/2026 2:44:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 3 1 4 Message from Barcelona: Attacking Sevilla - 5 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 534 | 2/3/2026 2:42:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
I win on ties, so Poti flips |
| 533 | 2/3/2026 2:39:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 5 5 1 Message from Barcelona: Second attack on Poti - 4 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 532 | 2/3/2026 2:38:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 1 2 3 Message from Barcelona: Attacking Poti for 4: 1st Die - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 531 | 2/2/2026 6:11:00 PM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
I'll just spread the 4 out to: Shetland Islands Cornwall Walles Armagh |
| 530 | 2/2/2026 1:12:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Poti is also 5 to attack as protected by satellite. Waterford is the only place on the map that I could find on cursory inspection that London can attack with 4 tokens. |
| 529 | 2/1/2026 9:51:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
You'll need to re-roll the combat for Poti IMO, since we reverted to before the illegal attack |
| 528 | 2/1/2026 7:41:00 PM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
Just do poti instead then I meant to go against Venice. It’s also a 2 |
| 527 | 2/1/2026 3:49:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
Paris is correct. Attacking Smyrna would cost 5 for London due to Paris having Stirrups this round. Reverting to London's turn before the Smyrna attack. London, you have 4 tokens left to spend on your turn. |
| 526 | 2/1/2026 1:03:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
The attack on Smyrna is not legal. London has 26 tokens and spent 22 on his previous attacks. All of Paris's and Barcelona's Doms cost London one extra token because of Armor or Stirrups so it would take 5 to attack Smyrna and he only has 4. |
| 525 | 2/1/2026 1:41:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
Trebizund Angora Sicily Smyrna to London Barcelona up |
| 524 | 2/1/2026 1:40:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 4 5 6 Message from London: Smyrna - 4 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 523 | 2/1/2026 1:40:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 4 4 6 Message from London: Sicily 5 again 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 522 | 2/1/2026 1:39:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 3 5 3 Message from London: Sicily - 5 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 521 | 2/1/2026 1:39:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 6 4 1 Message from London: Angora - 4 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 520 | 2/1/2026 1:39:00 AM | Turn 4 | London | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 4 1 5 Message from London: Trebizund - 8 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 519 | 1/31/2026 8:42:00 PM | Turn 4 | Barcelona | Message |
London - Putting in succinctly - Alexandria will cost 11 tokens to attack this turn for you, whether by land or sea. Here's the reason why it won't work for you this turn via either method: *Your ship capacity is only 10, so you can't transport enough by sea to attack *Attacks via land have to come from "controlled" markets - the colored side of the token, not the white side. Tokens don't flip from white to solid color until the end of the turn, so you can't use a newly-conquered market as an origin for a new attack. |
| 518 | 1/30/2026 6:05:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
London given how Genoa is playing I am NOT in the lead but am adopting a 1% strategy as I know I am not competitive. BTW I currently have 13 Doms thanks to Genoa, Venice has 18 so if you think we are close we aren't. He has more advances, less Misery, more saved cards, and most important is not going to be continuously attacked by a player trying to help me win whereas I will and have been by a player trying to help him win. The reason Alexandria is 11 tokens is I have Stirrups which adds one to my attack and defence vs you. If you were currently adjacent you could attack by land but you are not. It is funny to see Venice pretend you will hurt him more than Barcelona. Neither of you can compete with him unless you drag him down and use the fact you are going after him to deny him positions he desires. I think Barcelona is trying to win so he either goes my route which is maybe 10% if he has a card or focuses on balancing the Doms. Each Dom he or you takes from Venice is $10 a turn difference vs Venice. I can see him trying t sweep a commodity and harm Venice but if he or you is trying to win you both need to offset the gifts Genoa gave Venice. |
| 517 | 1/30/2026 5:22:00 PM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
One would expect you to attack the other person in the lead. Anyway next turn is a new turn and there may be new opportunities. Also, if I take libya first, can't i then attack alexandria with 10? Also, doesn't V control LIbya while Paris controls alexandria? Doesn't that mean I don't need a +1. Let me know the answer to that before i start rolling. Is there an updated file so I can see where everything is at? |
| 516 | 1/30/2026 5:13:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
@London: Genoa is done so yes Good luck with the rolls :) |
| 515 | 1/30/2026 5:12:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
I don’t think you have enough information to judge. I am not saying I would sacrifice my hope of winning to destroy London. I am saying, I am fine not retaliating if you take one spice from me. But if you harm me more, who should I attack when I don’t have a target given that I have no commodity card? Well I’ll attack the guys who harmed me too much. For the satellites I don’t expect to keep them all game. I assume some will be attacked |
| 514 | 1/30/2026 5:04:00 PM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
well whatever,I'll see what the dice hold, but you attacked my grain so I'm free to attack you back. If you want to steal my cards, so be it. Is it my turn now? |
| 513 | 1/30/2026 4:52:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
So London agree to lose by letting Venice keep everything Genoa gave him or Venice will sacrifice his game to make you lose. Just as Genoa can agree he won't win to stop me from having a more than 1% chance Venice can do the same but since the price is he agrees to let Barcelona win he is either very foolish or thinks you are. Do you really think he will give up his chances to win to make certain you won't? Do you see how opposed he is to you and Barcelona actually trying to win which requires Venice lose what Genoa gave him? It is a threat that works well if you do not care about winning but a foolish and insulting bluff if you do. Venice you are a better player than that to issue such a stupid threat. And you will find all the satellites you bought makes you much poorer at fighting to grab things you do not currently own. |
| 512 | 1/30/2026 4:32:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
@London: it looks like you will need to wait another turn to get 3 spices. As I said, I had limited options to attack. If you do not want me to retaliate on spice provinces, please avoid to attack me outside of spice. Otherwise, I'll focus on spice as well and will push to steal your card (it may cost a few token and a die to roll but it could be worth it!) |
| 511 | 1/30/2026 4:23:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Oh and I claimed Grain or Famine not just Grain. Currently Venice has 4 Grain so either $64 or 0 Misery. |
| 510 | 1/30/2026 4:20:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
London I mean exactly what I wrote. I am adopting a grab a commodity and hope I draw the cards strategy as with a player always attacking me I need that much luck to be competitive. If Venice has what I want and I can reach it(note I do not have OE) I will attack it. I will not attack Venice to balance the game(as you and Barcelona should do if you want a chance to win) as it does not give me a chance to win. BTW London you can not attack Alexandria this turn. You can only carry 10 tokens and it takes 11. |
| 509 | 1/30/2026 4:15:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Venice just so you are clear on the rule in the US version the card exchange is not automatically successful. You spend the market value and must roll it or under on a d6 to succeed. It never was a serious option over any move you made. |
| 508 | 1/30/2026 3:50:00 PM | Turn 4 | London | Message |
I plan on going after Spice. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. That means i'm attacking Paris and Venice. Since you have deduced that Venice has grain card, I'll prob go after that if I have tokens left over. Looking at Sicily or Seville back. Paris: Are you saying that you basically won't be attacking Venice at all? |
| 507 | 1/30/2026 3:44:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Good to see Genoa admit he is a cheater. Good to see him prove I was correct in my description. Now Barcelona and London are you going to do anything about it. You have already convinced me I have no interest in helping limit Venice as I will not get a shot at winning given Genoa will use every token vs me and that is fine by both of you. You have two reasonable alternatives. Spend this turn and possibly part of the next knocking Venice back to offset all the Doms Genoa gave him. Do not let him go first and keep a good commodity position. Lower his Dom total while raising yours so he is not getting $20+ a turn vs you and realize you need lower him enough to offset the gain he already has been given. Hopefully in two turns the game will be balanced for the three of you and the gifts Genoa gave will be offset. I will have a 1% chance on a go last and draw perfect cards strategy as the fact Genoa has spent everything vs me and likely will continue to spend everything vs me means no other strategy can work. Note my bid shows I knew after Genoese expansion last turn what was happening. Genoa has admitted they are not trying to win and their play proves they are not trying to win. Second is to congratulate Venice on his tainted(having another position playing only to have you win taints your win even if innocent and not colluding with the person trying to throw you the game) win as he is 95% chance to win absent you two dealing with the fact Venice's early expansion was done by another player tossing their chances to help Venice. |
| 506 | 1/30/2026 3:24:00 PM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
That could be true. Or given that I agreed to not attack Genoa and you while London and Barcelona declined my offer, I had to attack someone else... And I would not attack someone with a bonus which would be too expensive... Which leaves only London. And Sevilla is the sole Londonian province I can attack ! London, please note I could have spent 3 tokens to steal a card from you and I did not. |
| 505 | 1/30/2026 2:28:00 PM | Turn 4 | Genoa | Message |
you damn right old fool man |
| 504 | 1/30/2026 2:08:00 PM | Turn 4 | Paris | Message |
Good to see Genoa is making it obvious he is not trying to win. Certainly Venice is making it obvious they have Famine or a Grain card. After all if they were looking for a direction rather than had a direction they would have drawn the 3 token card then decided their target. Oh it is +6 cash not +5 cash for Paris from HI. HI is resolved before any expansion and I have no tokens at that point in stock to transfer so 34 tokens and +6 cash making my carryover cash $14. |
| 503 | 1/30/2026 12:53:00 PM | Turn 4 | Genoa | Message |
Error on my end, I was looking at Venice token. I have 14, not 15. Disregard token in toulouse |
| 502 | 1/30/2026 9:47:00 AM | Turn 4 | Genoa | Message |
Genoa - 15 token: 4 token dom on Paris, 4 token dom on Cairo, 6 token successful attack on Bordeaux, satellite Toulouse 1 token. End of my turn |
| 501 | 1/30/2026 9:45:00 AM | Turn 4 | Genoa | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 3 3 3 Message from Genoa: Attacking Bordeaux for 6 token |
| 500 | 1/30/2026 7:16:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Genoa's turn |
| 499 | 1/30/2026 7:13:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Draw card | |
| 498 | 1/30/2026 7:12:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Sevilla (6) DOM Sarai (2) DOM Kiev (2) DOM Kamishin 1 Levant 1 paying 3 tokens to buy a card Total tokens spent 15 |
| 497 | 1/30/2026 7:02:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Green > my rank so it is a success |
| 496 | 1/30/2026 7:02:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 3 1 1 2 Message from Venice: Attacking Sevilla (6 tokens) 1st - Black 2nd - White 3rd - Green |
| 495 | 1/30/2026 4:42:00 AM | Turn 4 | Venice | Message |
Hello If I attack and roll 2 with the die vs my rank, do I win? Win if Green die greater than rank? Or black greater than white ? Correct |
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