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671 2/3/2017 1:26:00 PM Winter 1918 Moderator Change Moderator player Moderator player changed from Tom Gregorio to BPAPoGAdmin
670 1/29/2017 4:52:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Message Congrats David! I kind of feel like you deserved the win even though it may have ended in a stalemate. I can't seem to wrap my head around how to be more aggressive in this game. I wonder if a lot of it fell on not taking Brussels early. I felt like I tried, just could not punch through. The extra RP would have helped, especially in Russia. Also Uzghorod was a big let down. Hard to go around or not defend against that Russian chain of troops.

Anyway, good luck moving forward!

Cheers,
Marc
669 1/29/2017 12:02:00 PM Winter 1918 Moderator Change Moderator player Moderator player changed from Tom Gregorio to Tom Gregorio
668 1/29/2017 12:01:00 PM Winter 1918 Moderator Message Hi Guys,

The GMs rated this match as a 50-50 toss-up. The roll was made in the Admin log and the result of a 30 was more than sufficient to give the AP the win.

Congrats, David! Marc will get a chance for redemption in round 2, of course, since this is a double elimination event.

Note: You guys will both need to be more proactive about time management in round 2 - your round 1 pace only got you to turn 13 which will definitely be a problem as we get deeper into the event.
667 1/28/2017 10:58:00 AM Winter 1918 Central Powers Message Flip AH4th in Przemysl. Elim AH10th in Miskolcz. Flip AHc in Miskolcz.
666 1/27/2017 10:28:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Message AP wins 7-4.

Elim RU10, repl with RUc [2,0].
665 1/27/2017 10:24:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
6


Message from Allies:
Uzhgorod:

CP 6A
vs
AP 12A +2
664 1/27/2017 10:22:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Combat #7: 2 / Severe Weather
Defending units in a mountain space in Fall/Winter or a swamp space in Spring/Fall get a +2 drm.

Message from Allies:
Use at Uzhgorod, 12A +2.
663 1/27/2017 9:11:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #24: 3 / Libyan Revolt (TU Reinforcements)
May only be played if there are no Allied units in the Libya space. Place the SN unit in Libya. SN unit is always in supply. Space converted by the SN units are checked normally during the Attrition phase.

Message from Central Powers:
CP 5th

M Lemberg: AHc to Lublin.

C Miskolcz: AH6th,7th,10th attack Uzhgorod.

C Przemysl(SUD): AH4th, 2x[GEc] attack Uzhgorod.

CP 14@6A vs AP 9@12A
662 1/27/2017 8:26:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Message Lutsk battle:

Flip RU2, advance RU3, RU4 to Lutsk, remove T1.
661 1/27/2017 8:24:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Message Stanislaw battle:

Flip RU5.
660 1/27/2017 7:27:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Message Wow, how bad was that for the CP

5/3 - Flip GE14th, retreat to Brest-Litovsk.

Loss / advance?
659 1/27/2017 7:25:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1


Message from Central Powers:
Rovno [A]: All vs Lutsk,

AP 6A
vs
CP 6A
658 1/27/2017 7:25:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Message 3 LFs to RU, which unit?

Retreat GE11th, [GEc] to Tarnow
657 1/27/2017 7:21:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Central Powers:
GE return fire on 6A column
656 1/27/2017 12:24:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Message No advance.
655 1/27/2017 12:23:00 AM Winter 1918 Allies Message 7 LF.

Elim GE18, repl with [GEc] [0,8].

Return fire on 6 col.

AP losses from Czernowitz.
654 1/27/2017 12:17:00 AM Winter 1918 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Allies:
AP first fire on 16 col:
653 1/27/2017 12:17:00 AM Winter 1918 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Allies:
Flank attempt vs Stanislaw:
652 1/27/2017 12:15:00 AM Winter 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #47: 4 / USA Reinforcements (2nd Army)
May only be played after "Over There". 2nd Army, 1 corps.

Message from Allies:
AP 4
OPs

1. Uzhgorod [A]: All vs Stanislaw.
2. Munkacs [A]: All vs Stanislaw.
3. Czernowitz [A]: RU5 only vs Stanislaw.
4. Rovno [A]: All vs Lutsk, 6A vs 6A.
651 1/26/2017 11:57:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Message T1 trenches to Lutsk and Lublin.

-1 mod to Gorlice
650 1/26/2017 11:55:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

5
3
2


Message from Central Powers:
Trench rolls

1 - Gorlice

2 - Lutsk

3 - Lublin
649 1/26/2017 11:55:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #43: 3 / Von Below
Cancels all trench effects for 1 GE attack against only IT unit(s).

Message from Central Powers:
CP 4th

M Gorlice: GE11th to Stanislaw. GE9th will entrench.

M Lutsk: GE18th to Stanislaw. GE14th will entrench.

M Lublin: AHc to Lemberg. AH1st will entrench.
648 1/26/2017 11:33:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #45: 3 / Kerensky Offensive
May only be played after "Fall of Tsar" and before the "Bolshevik Revolution". Allied player conducts Operations using this card and one RU attack vs. a space with any AH, BU, or TU units adds a +2 drm. AL player announces intent to use this effect prior to the CP player’s use of defensive CC.

Message from Allies:
AP 3
SR

1. Melun: FRc to Venice.
2. Venice: [FRc] to Melun.
3. RB: FRc [5,0] to Mulhouse.
4. Calais: BRc to Port Said.
647 1/26/2017 11:19:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #52: 5 / Fall of the Tsar
May only be played if Russian Capitulation marker is in the "Fall of Tsar Allowed" box. Add 1 VP plus an additional 2 VP if RO is still neutral. RU Activation costs 1 OPS per unit, not space, for Combat only (even if all units in the space do not participate in attack(s).) RU corps may no longer move (can still SR) between the To Caucasus Box and the Near East.

Replacement points: AH: 3, BU: 1, GE: 4, TU: 2

Message from Central Powers:
CP 3rd
646 1/26/2017 11:04:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #16: 5 / Romania
May not be played after "Fall of the Tsar". Romania joins the Allies. See also 9.5.2.5 for restrictions on play as a non-event when CP are at TW.

Replacement points: A: 1, BR: 3, FR: 3, IT: 2, RU: 4

Message from Allies:
AP 2
RPs
645 1/26/2017 10:56:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Message Flip AH5th in Udine from previous attack
644 1/26/2017 10:55:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #5: 2 / Landwehr
CP player receives 2 extra RPs to immediately flip supplied reduced strength German units to their full strength side. They may not be spent to replace eliminated units. May not be played if Berlin is AL controlled or out of supply.

Message from Central Powers:
CP 2nd

Flip GE12th in Metz

GE11th in Gorlice
643 1/25/2017 11:56:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Message T1 in Mulhouse.
642 1/25/2017 11:56:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Allies:
Mulhouse trench:
641 1/25/2017 11:55:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Message 2. Mulhouse armies will also dig.
640 1/25/2017 11:52:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #38: 2 / USA Reinforcements (1 corps)
May only be played after "Over There". 1 corps.

Message from Allies:
AP 1
OPs

1. Bologna [M]: IT2 to Venice.
2. Mulhouse [M]: FR5 to Nancy.
639 1/25/2017 11:45:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Message CP wins 4-3.

Flip IT3, elim ITc, flip FRc to hold.
638 1/25/2017 11:41:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
2


Message from Allies:
Venice:

CP 5A
vs
AP 5A
637 1/25/2017 11:40:00 PM Winter 1918 Allies Draw Strategy cards
636 1/25/2017 5:58:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #37: 2 / Hoffman
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Adds +1 to all future CP Mandated Offensive die rolls.

Message from Central Powers:
CP 1st

M Essen: GE7th to Sedan. GE17th to Metz.

C Udine: AH3rd,5th attack Venice - MO complete

CP 6@5A vs AP 4@5A
635 1/25/2017 5:57:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Message MOs

CP - AH(IT)

AP - FR
634 1/25/2017 5:56:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
2


Message from Central Powers:
MOs

CP

AP
633 1/25/2017 5:56:00 PM Winter 1918 Central Powers Draw Strategy cards
632 1/25/2017 5:55:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers End Turn
631 1/25/2017 5:55:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message RPs

GE - 6

Rebuild GE17th,7th to Essen
Flip GE1st,GE5th in Sedan

AH - 4

AH5th in Udine.
Rebuild AHc to Reserves (8)
630 1/24/2017 1:15:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message AP RPs

BR [3]:
Cambrai: [BR4], [BR5], [CDN] to full.

FR [3]:
Nancy: [FR1], [FR2] to full.
Mulhouse: [FR5] to full.

IT [2]:
Venice: [ITc] to full.
EB: ITc, [ITc] to RB [3,1].

RU [4]:
RU7 to Kharkov.
EB: RUc to RB [3,0].
Dilman: [RUc] to full.
Kiev: [RUc] to full.

A [1]:
[BE1] to Antwerp.
629 1/24/2017 12:57:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message Metz battle:

Flip FR1, FR2, elim [FRc].
628 1/24/2017 12:55:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message Sedan battle:

Flip BR5, CDN.
627 1/24/2017 11:50:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message 5/7 - Flip GE12th.

FR losses?
626 1/24/2017 11:49:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
5


Message from Central Powers:
Metz

AP 12A +1
vs
CP 15A
625 1/24/2017 11:49:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message 5/4 - Flip GE1st, GE5th for No Retreat.

Your loss?
624 1/24/2017 11:47:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
1


Message from Central Powers:
Sedan

AP 12A +1
vs
CP 12A
623 1/23/2017 9:44:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #31: 4 / MEF (BR Reinforcements)
May only be played if Turkey is at war and before "Salonika". May be played as normal reinforcement after Salonika. Place the MEF Army and the Beachhead marker at any MEF space. See 9.5.3.5.

Message from Allies:
AP 6
OPs

1. Brussels [A]: All vs Sedan.
2. Cambrai [A]: BR5, CDN vs Sedan, using Hurricane Barrage, 12A +1 vs 12A.
3. Verdun [A]: All vs Metz.
4. Nancy [A]: All vs Metz, using A/S, 12A +1 vs 15A.
622 1/23/2017 6:21:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #55: 4 / Lloyd George
May not be played after MICHEL, BLUCHER, or PEACE OFFENSIVE. No BR attacks vs. Level 2 entrenched GE units may be made for the rest of this turn. The effect of this card is canceled by play of MICHEL, BLUCHER, or PEACE OFFENSIVE events. This event may mean that a BR MO cannot be fulfilled in a specific turn.

Replacement points: AH: 2, BU: 1, GE: 3, TU: 1

Message from Central Powers:
CP 6th
621 1/23/2017 6:20:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message -/1 Flip RUc
620 1/23/2017 6:20:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6


Message from Central Powers:
Oops, forgot to roll this

Dilman [A]: RUc x2 vs Van, MO done

AP 2@1c
vs
CP 1c
619 1/22/2017 11:15:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message Flip BR4.
618 1/22/2017 11:12:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message 7/5 - Elim GE7th & GEc (1,[8]) for No Retreat.

You?
617 1/22/2017 11:07:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
2


Message from Central Powers:

Sedan
12A+2 vs
16A
616 1/22/2017 7:56:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message (Flip FR5 in Mulhouse, forgot to add.)
615 1/22/2017 7:53:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Combat #18: 2 / Hurricane Barrage
A BR attack adds a +1 drm. ANA, AUS, CND, or PT do not qualify as BR for this purpose.

Message from Allies:
Use at Sedan, along with A/S from previous combat, 12A +2.
614 1/22/2017 7:52:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #41: 3 / Arab Northern Army (BR Reinforcements)
May only be played if Turkey is at war. Place the British ANA Corps in the Arabia space.

Message from Allies:
AP 5
OPs

1. Brussels [A]: All vs Sedan.
2. Cambrai [A]: Armies only vs Sedan, 12A vs 16A, CC to follow.
3. Dilman [A]: RUc x2 vs Van, MO done.
613 1/22/2017 5:00:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message CP 5th

1 OPs

M Liege: GE4th to Strasbourg
612 1/22/2017 4:57:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message I actually said the words "Six One" before I rolled that...ugh!

7/4 - Elim GE17th and GEc from Reserves (2,[8]) for No Retreat.

You flip FRc and FR army of choosing.
611 1/22/2017 4:55:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1


Message from Central Powers:
Strasbourg, 12A +1 vs 15A
610 1/21/2017 12:03:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Combat #19: 2 / Air Superiority
A BR or FR attack adds +1 drm. ANA, AUS, CND, or PT do not qualify as BR for this purpose.

Message from Allies:
Use at Strasbourg, 12A +1 vs 15A.
609 1/21/2017 12:02:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #35: 4 / Yanks and Tanks
Allied player conducts operations using this card and all Combats involving a US unit during this Action Round get a +2 drm.

Message from Allies:
AP 4
OPs

1. Uzhgorod [M]: [RUc] to Czernowitz.
2. Czernowitz [M]: RU10 to Uzhgorod.
3. Nancy [M]: All vs Strasbourg.
4. Mulhouse [M]: All vs Strasbourg, 12A vs 15A, CC to follow.
608 1/20/2017 11:39:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message 2x GEc I meant
607 1/20/2017 11:39:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message Flip GE11th, GEc.
606 1/20/2017 11:24:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message 5-5 tie.

Elim RU7, repl with [RUc] [2,0].
605 1/20/2017 11:21:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4


Message from Allies:
Uzhgorod:

CP 12A +1
vs
AP 12A
604 1/20/2017 7:22:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Combat #3: 2 / Von Francois
A GE attack vs. RU units adds a +1 drm. May be used against spaces with RU and other nationalities.

Message from Central Powers:
603 1/20/2017 7:22:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message Misclick there, meant to play that for OPs

M(2) Debrecen: AH2nd, 2xBUc to Cluj.

C Gorlice: GE9th,11th attack Uzhgorod.

C (SUD) Przemysl: AH4th,2xGEc attack Uzhgorod w/ CC.

CP 16@12A+1 vs AP 9@12A
602 1/20/2017 7:20:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #26: 4 / Place of Execution
May only be played after the "Falkenhayn" and before the "H-L Take Command". A GE attack vs. an undestroyed FR fort space adds a +2 drm. May be played alone as an event (for War Status) if all FR forts are already destroyed.

Message from Central Powers:
601 1/18/2017 9:09:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #40: 2 / 14 Points
May only be played after "Zimmermann Telegram". Only the Allied player may offer Peace Terms for the rest of the game. Subtract 1 VP.

Message from Allies:
AP 3
OPs

1. Rovno [M]: RU10 to Czernowitz.
2. Kharkov [M]: RU3 to Rovno.
600 1/17/2017 11:29:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #49: 4 / Michel
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Cancels all trench effects for 1 GE attack and adds a +1 drm for that attack. Play prior to Attempt Flank Attack Step. A trench does not need to be present.

Replacement points: AH: 2, BU: 1, GE: 3, TU: 1

Message from Central Powers:
CP 3rd

RPs as well
599 1/17/2017 11:19:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #54: 5 / Zimmermann Telegram
May only be played if U.S. entry marker is in the "Zimmerman Telegram Allowed" box. Subtract 1 VP. US joins the Allies. Allows play of "Over There" on any following turn.

Replacement points: A: 1, BR: 3, FR: 3, IT: 2, RU: 4

Message from Allies:
AP 2
RPs
598 1/17/2017 9:57:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #39: 2 / German Reinforcements (2 corps)
2 corps.

Message from Central Powers:
CP 2nd

Flip AH5th, elim AHc in Udine.

2x GEc to Reserves (3,[8])
597 1/17/2017 9:38:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #9: 3 / Moltke
May only be played in August or September 1914. CP Activation in Belgium or France costs 1 OPS per unit (not space) until the "Falkenhayn" card is played. All units must be activated in a space. Supersedes Sud Army and Eleventh army card effects.

Message from Allies:
AP 1
OPs

1. Grenoble [M]: FRc to Venice.
2. Rome [M]: IT2 to Bologna.
3. Amiens [M]: CDN to Cambrai, BRc to Calais.
596 1/17/2017 9:26:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message CP wins 5-4.

Elim IT5, ITc [2,0] to hold.
595 1/17/2017 9:20:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5


Message from Allies:
Venice:

CP 5A
vs
AP 5A
594 1/17/2017 9:16:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Draw Strategy cards NOTE: The deck was reshuffled on this deal.
593 1/17/2017 6:35:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message T2 to Strasbourg
592 1/17/2017 6:35:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Central Powers:
Trench roll Strasbourg
591 1/17/2017 6:34:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #8: 3 / Race to the Sea
CP units may now end movement in Ostend, Calais, and Amiens. Card may also be played as an event after CP WS is at 4.

Message from Central Powers:
CP 1st

M Essen: GE5th to Sedan.

M Strasbourg: Trench roll.

C Udine: AH3rd,5th,AHc attack Venice - MO complete.

CP 7@5A vs AP 4@5A
590 1/17/2017 6:32:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message MOs

CP - AH(IT)

AP - RU
589 1/17/2017 6:31:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6


Message from Central Powers:
MOs

CP

AP
588 1/17/2017 6:31:00 PM Fall 1917 Central Powers Draw Strategy cards
587 1/17/2017 6:31:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers End Turn
586 1/15/2017 7:59:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message No discard.
585 1/15/2017 7:58:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message AP RPs

BR [3]:
Cambrai: [BR5] to full.

FR [3]:
Paris: [FR7] to full.
Mulhouse: [FR5] to full.
RB: [FRc] x2 to full [6,0].

RU [4]:
RU4 to Kharkov.
Uzhgorod: [RU9] to full.
RB: [RUc] to full [3,0].
Dilman: [RUc] to full.

IT [2]:
IT2 to Rome.

A [1]:
BEc to RB.
584 1/15/2017 7:47:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Flip BR5 in Brussels.
583 1/15/2017 5:28:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Discard Strategy card #16: 2 / Liman Von Sanders

Message from Central Powers:
RPs

GE - 8

GE1st,7th in Sedan
GE1st in Liege
GE5th to Essen
Rebuild 6x [GEc] to Reserves (1,[8])

AH - 6
Flip AH4th in Przemysl
AH10th in Miskolcz
AH3rd,5th in Udine
Flip 4x[AHc] to full in Reserves

582 1/15/2017 5:23:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message 4/4 - Flip GE1st, elim [GEc].

You flip an Army and elim [BEc].
581 1/15/2017 5:22:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
1


Message from Central Powers:
Sedan,

AP 12A
vs
CP 12A
580 1/15/2017 11:45:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #53: 5 / Army of the Orient (FR Reinforcements)
Place the French Orient Army in the Salonika space if Allied controlled, subject to stacking limits. See 9.5.3.4.

Message from Allies:
AP 6
OPs

1,2. Cambrai [A]: [BEc], BR4, BR5 vs Sedan.
3. Brussels [A]: BR1, BR2, BR3 vs Sedan, 12A vs 12A.
4. Bologna [M]: IT5 to Venice.
5. Czernowitz [M]: RU7 to Uzhgorod.
579 1/15/2017 11:31:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Message You're correct on Uzhgorod, my mistake:

Elim [RUc] to hold.
578 1/14/2017 9:33:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message AH3rd,5th in Udine.

Retreat from Uzhgorod?

I count 7 LFs from Uzhgorod, I think you need 1 more LF for No Retreat

Flip AH4th Przemysl, AH10th Miskolcz.


577 1/14/2017 9:26:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message CP wins 7-4.

Elim RU3, repl with [RUc] [2,1].
Flip RU9.
576 1/14/2017 9:21:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
2


Message from Allies:
Uzhgorod:

CP 12A
vs
AP 12A
575 1/14/2017 9:20:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Only 3 ITc in RB.
574 1/14/2017 9:19:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message CP wins 5-4.

Elim IT2, repl with [ITc] [4,0], elim to hold.
573 1/14/2017 9:15:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
4


Message from Allies:
Venice:

CP 5A
vs
AP 5A
572 1/14/2017 9:14:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message AP wins 7-4.

Elim [BE1], repl with [BEc] [0,0].

Elim GE5, repl with [GEc] [1,2].

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