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1481 4/23/2017 6:33:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message Russia up

File in folder
1480 4/23/2017 6:33:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #15: 2 / Cossacks or Azeris
All invading Forces (except Fortress Flags) in Russia or Turkey suffer Attrition.

Message from Austria:
2AU from Regroup to Venice
1479 4/23/2017 6:33:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message Duh. looked at the colors in more detail. no need to answer.
1478 4/23/2017 3:10:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message Rules Question: are the twocolor duchies in Italy and Germany French Associate duchies, like Ireland is British Associate, or are they French/Austrian associates, like Brussels is French/British?
1477 4/23/2017 1:42:00 AM 1811-1812 Britain Message austria up
1476 4/22/2017 5:41:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message BR gets the kill
1475 4/22/2017 5:40:00 PM 1811-1812 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

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Message from France:
Dublin
BR 3
FR 3
1474 4/22/2017 5:22:00 PM 1811-1812 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Event #7: 4 / Minor Forces
Place two Units of an Associate Duchy in that Duchy. They attack any non-friendly Formations present without evasion and before any interception is attempted.

Message from Britain:
at dublin france you can roll the dice no cards from me
1473 4/22/2017 11:45:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message BR up
1472 4/22/2017 11:45:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message 1CU Rotterdam to Brussels
1471 4/22/2017 2:18:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
3


Message from Russia:
No need to push my luck
Run away
1470 4/21/2017 6:52:00 PM 1811-1812 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #86: 3 / Patriotic Fervor
Select any nation without a card to draw a card from the deck.

Message from France:
1-2) Ney w/4FR & Blake w/3SP to Brussels

RU reaction?
No CC for me, 11 vs 4 if stay and fight
1469 4/21/2017 6:45:00 PM 1811-1812 France Denmark: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from France:
E&E
1468 4/21/2017 6:44:00 PM 1811-1812 France Denmark: Play Strategy card as Event #67: 6 / Emigres & Exiles
Place an available leader and a Unit of your nationality in your friendly Capital and draw another card. If no leader is available, you may place an extra Unit instead.

Message from France:
Frederick to Copenhagen +1 CU and draw card
1467 4/21/2017 6:43:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message SP lose 1 and backup to Picardy

3) unflag Burgos
4) Castanos w/4 Madrid to Badajoz
1466 4/21/2017 3:39:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message Sorry for delay; away from board. Will finish SP thru France this evening.
1465 4/21/2017 4:20:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message Spain has 2CP
1464 4/21/2017 1:24:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

5
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6


Message from Russia:
Russia
1463 4/21/2017 1:24:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 5

2
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2
1


Message from Russia:
Spain
1462 4/20/2017 9:56:00 PM 1811-1812 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Operations #74: 4 / Turning Movement
One of your Armies may move two spaces without interception, Attrition or enemy evasion. It may pick up or drop off Units. Battle occurs only if you enter a space containing an enemy Formation. Turning Movement cannot occur through a Fortress or an enemy Formation unless that Formation is Overrun.

Message from France:
1-2) Blake w/4 from Champagne goes Picardy->Brussels

Russian reaction?
If fight, no CC for Spain; 5 vs 4
1461 4/20/2017 9:49:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message 3CU from regroup to Constantinople
1460 4/20/2017 9:48:00 PM 1811-1812 France Turkey: Play random Strategy card #107: 3 / Relief Convoy

Message from France:
1459 4/20/2017 9:29:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Message Done
1458 4/20/2017 9:27:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Message 3) Flag Nassau
1457 4/20/2017 9:26:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message no reaction
1456 4/20/2017 7:30:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Prussia: Play Strategy card as Operations #57: 3 / Up from the Ranks
Place any out-of-play but available leader (except Poniatowski or Bernadotte) in his friendly Home or Associate Duchy. If played by a Neutral Proxy, the leader must be placed in the Neutral's capital. If no leader is available, the Neutral has 3 CPs instead.

Message from Prussia:
1-2 Blucher +5 Munster > Nassau

French reaction?
1455 4/20/2017 11:55:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message what sealed the fate of france was Nappy's retreat into Italy
1454 4/20/2017 8:27:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Operations #44: 3 / Fleet in Irons
Void a Maneuver, evasion or interception by any one Fleet or Grand Fleet (even after making/failing an evasion/interception dice roll). Any Maneuver used is expended and that Fleet must pay double for further Maneuvers in this Impulse. A voided evasion does not penalize that Fleet in battle for a failed evasion attempt.

Message from Russia:
Flag Zurich
Build unit in Corfu
1453 4/20/2017 8:15:00 AM 1811-1812 France France: Give random Strategy card to Austria Message from France:
This should seal France's fate, lol.
1452 4/20/2017 4:55:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message awaiting a card from France
1451 4/20/2017 4:55:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Austria: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Austria:
1450 4/20/2017 4:55:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Event #63: 6 / Malet's Conspiracy
Draw a random card from the French hand (if available) and one from the Draw Pile. Not playable by France as an event.

Message from Austria:
1449 4/20/2017 12:54:00 AM 1811-1812 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #52: 5 / Crown Prince Bernadotte
Replace Gustavus with a Swedish Unit and Bernadotte or place them in Stockholm if Gustavus is not in play. Sweden is Unaligned. A Neutral playing this card on Turn 3 or later must play it as an event.

Message from Britain:
flags to galicia-oporto.moore with 2 units to oporto.build one unit there.austria up
1448 4/19/2017 9:32:00 PM 1811-1812 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #905: 6 / Guerre de Course
One or two unblockaded (not Refitting) French Squadrons move Offboard to raid commerce. See Offboard Fleets on the Battleground display. British card losses never include Reserves or exceed Minimum Hand limits in the Interphase, but may include Resources. RESERVE

Message from France:
burning thru my cards, but need to consolidate

1) Lannes from Baden to Nassau
2) Lannes w/6 from Nassau to Lorraine
3) Soult w/6 from Paris to Champagne
4-5) Rome 2CU to Genoa
6) Marseilles 1CU to Piedmont

BR up
1447 4/19/2017 8:31:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Message Zurich elim 2 prussian and 1 Austrian
Brussels 1 Russian 1 Prussian
Berlin 2 Prussian
1446 4/19/2017 4:05:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message I may still decide to plus play
1445 4/19/2017 2:17:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message PR to decide regroup of Zurich, Brussels, Berlin

Then BR up
1444 4/19/2017 2:12:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message until this last battle, 5 AU have died to kill 12 imperials. even now, the score is

Imperials 16 dead
AU 6 dead
Pr 2 dead
Ru 1 dead
1443 4/19/2017 9:35:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message Russia:

I had no idea we could not command each other units.

Please dont be petty about assignment of losses. As france pointed out, i have only done what you have asked so far. would you not like that happy state to continue?
1442 4/19/2017 9:34:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message to france:

interesting choice of retreat, my friend. is italy worth more to you than Paris?
1441 4/19/2017 9:28:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message To Prussia:

I suppose You decide who regroups from Zurich. As my brother kindly reminded us, his units have longest to travel. May I suggest you regroup Au ahead of Ru?
1440 4/19/2017 9:27:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message changed my mind

John +5AU from Milan to regroup
1439 4/19/2017 9:25:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message 6AU from Milan to regroup
1438 4/19/2017 1:32:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message Yup, you're correct. Found the applicable rule in 6.17. Thanks.
1437 4/19/2017 12:56:00 AM 1811-1812 Britain Message flags are consider forces.so with the 3 results i remove flag and two units from galicia
1436 4/19/2017 12:49:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message already made a file for TU-SP-SW; will adjust BR losses if necessary/different than what I previously posted.

Does the flag get a roll on top of the forces in Galicia? Thought the flag is only rolled if it's the only occupant of a space. If Galicia's flag is also a die rolled, then the loss would be to another BR CU - the space is rolled for attrition, not units separate from the flag.
1435 4/19/2017 12:43:00 AM 1811-1812 Britain Message i will remove flags and 2 units from galicia
1434 4/19/2017 12:43:00 AM 1811-1812 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Britain:
3 six at six dice!!!ok they are partisans.at galicia we have to roll one more dice .suppose 3 results are at galicia i roll one dice for flag at burgos
1433 4/19/2017 12:42:00 AM 1811-1812 France France: Play Strategy card as Event #82: 5 / Scarce Supplies
All Units/leaders in play in excess of nine per Duchy Regroup regardless of nationality. The Leaders/Units removed are chosen by the Commander of the affected Duchies.

Message from France:
for the event - now if only I hadn't failed that evasion roll....

Overstacked duchies that I can see:
15 in Milan
12 in Zurich
11 in Brussels
11 in Berlin

AU/RU/PR have choices
1432 4/19/2017 12:34:00 AM 1811-1812 France Denmark: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from France:
home card
1431 4/19/2017 12:34:00 AM 1811-1812 France Denmark: Play Strategy card as Event #908: 4 / Gallant Danes
Danish Fleets have an intercept/evade level of 8, throw three Battle dice per Squadron, and may void one "6" in battle during this Impulse. The Danes may use four Maneuvers this Impulse even if Inactive. OR Draw a card. RESERVE

Message from France:
Denmark will draw a card
1430 4/19/2017 12:33:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message SW builds 1CU and +1CP marker
1429 4/19/2017 12:32:00 AM 1811-1812 France Sweden: Play random Strategy card #31: 3 / Lancers and Uhlans

Message from France:
1428 4/19/2017 12:32:00 AM 1811-1812 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Operations #3: 3 / Descent from the Sea
Place one Unit and a Flag of this nation in any unoccupied enemy Port of any Zone controlled by this nation's Camp. This Port cannot be a Fortress.

Message from France:
1-2) build CU Granada
3) Castanos w/3 to Madrid
1427 4/19/2017 12:29:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message wow, French can't fight but evidently Spain has finally learned to. 2k in Galicia, and Burgos flag removed.

3CPs for Spain:
1-2) build 1CU Madrid
3) Blake w/4 Picardy to Champagne
1426 4/19/2017 12:24:00 AM 1811-1812 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

6
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6
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Message from France:
BR attrition:
Galicia first 5
Burgos flag last 1
1425 4/19/2017 12:23:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message Partisans: All forces in Spanish Home Duchies hostile to Spain suffer attrition except Fortress Flags. Spain gains one CP for each Attrition kill for immediate use. Event is void and must be played as 4 CPs if there are no Forces hostile to Spain in Spain.
1424 4/19/2017 12:22:00 AM 1811-1812 France Turkey: Play random Strategy card #37: 4 / Partisans

RED: Must be played as Event

Message from France:
1423 4/18/2017 8:17:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Message Prussia done. Move file shortly. Prussia loses two units. Others one
1422 4/17/2017 11:35:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message 4k/2d to 4k/1d
PR wins, 4 losses each

Lannes retreats to Baden
Massena to FC
Nap w/3 to Piedmont
1421 4/17/2017 11:31:00 PM 1811-1812 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 15

4
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Message from France:
FR
1420 4/17/2017 11:31:00 PM 1811-1812 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 18

6
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Message from France:
Zurich
PR/RU/AU
1419 4/17/2017 1:14:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Message I am happy to go in with one less die. Let's roll the battle.
1418 4/17/2017 11:18:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Message Unless Prussia cancels his move, nothing has changed (except to benefit France) from the point France made his evasion/interception rolls.
So, if Prussia keeps his move, why should France re-roll?
1417 4/17/2017 11:14:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message Ferd cannot command/carry Russian troops. Only Russians can command Russians. Only pact allies' troops can be commanded by their major power.

With the latest information, Prussia now can move with Kut+6RU and F +3AU, or not move. With the changing information regarding who can or will go, I believe France should reroll any intercept/evasion, as now directly affects the decision to be made.
Would like Prussia to weigh in.
1416 4/17/2017 10:52:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message Obviously I greatly regret doing any rolls prior to full Coalition alignment - my attempt to keep us moving along has severely backfired; this wouldn't happen in a FTF game.
I didn't see the point of discussing further until Prussia weighs in, as its his move.
Unfortunately, the failed evasion likely impacts the decision, since Russia now won't move without Austria.
1415 4/17/2017 10:48:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message so this limits Prussian choices to:

Ferdie +3AU
Ferdie +3A1R


1414 4/17/2017 10:34:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Message To simplify the issue:
Russia won't follow unless Austrian units are included in the Grand Army.
Also, Prussia is free to kill whomever he chooses if hits don't divide by three, but Russian units have to travel a much longer distance than Au and Pru ones to reach the front
1413 4/17/2017 10:24:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message guys

this is a good group and a good game
i dont want it to die because of some silly disagreement about record keeping mistakes

please, let Prussia tell us if by "Ferdie +4" he means:

Ferdie +3AU
Tomasov +4RU
Ferdie +3A1R

I will go with whatever he decides (as long as Russia agrees).

I see no reason to reroll Nappy evasion/Lannes intercept, but if France thinks he is entitled to reroll his evasion because of a 1 unit change in coalition force composition, I am happy to grant it to him.

Can we please proceed?



1412 4/17/2017 3:36:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message " Actually no MP can lead troops of another MP
So it's 18 vs 15"

austria is not a minor power
1411 4/16/2017 3:38:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message or does his mistake have to stand because you rolled dice mistakenly? :)

i dont really care, guys, please you three sort it out.
1410 4/16/2017 12:55:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message do you agree that Prussia called it wrong and ought to call it differently?
1409 4/16/2017 12:48:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message As Prussia is using all CPs of the card, he will have to plus play in order to flag Zurich. Otherwise Austria would be next in order of movement to get the flag.
1408 4/16/2017 12:45:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message however, as AU will not get a flag in Zurich, Au does not care and lets France and Prussia and Russia duke it out on the rules.
1407 4/16/2017 12:44:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message France

i see this differently.

Prussia declared "Ferdie +4" which is impossible

So Prussia has to restate either "Ferdie +3" or "Tomasov +4".

If prussia wants Ferdie to participate, then he has to call "Ferdie +3" in which case Ferdie will fight.
1406 4/16/2017 12:36:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message Austria should declare his intention to allow PR to command his forces or not. If you are going to defer again to the coalition after all this, then I really don't get why this started.

If Austria decides not to allow, then we are backed up to the point where PR moves from Wurtemburg.

If Austria agrees to PR command, then would be 18 v 15 based on current state.
1405 4/16/2017 12:26:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message Regarding Russia's last comment - dice were rolled, but the troop count was incorrect and Austria does have the right to decide on it's own whether to commit forces. I was incorrect in too quickly assuming Austria would automatically go along. But especially since it's Austria's units that were incorrect, he should be given the opportunity to confirm.
1404 4/16/2017 12:21:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message france
no harm intended and no d taken
ferdie is rearing to fight but happy to defer to her allies to determine whether he fights or r and rs and tomasov takex his place
1403 4/16/2017 12:12:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message France previously intercepted into Zurich with Nap w/7FR & 1SP. 1FR and 1SP were already removed for losses. And yes, a failed evasion would void the terrain bonus.

Regarding Austria, this would probably be the first time this game that Austria did not directly differ to Russia's lead, which is why I went forward with my roll once Russia committed (as Russia appeared annoyed that I even bothered to ask). In this case that appears to be an incorrect assumption, and we can back up to the decision of whether Ferd w/3AU participate - I was not attempting to disallow you your choice, just to move the game along. The incorrect number of CU's was not identified at the time of the move, and if you choose not to move the Austrians, then perhaps Russia would prefer the other Russians to move under Prussian command. Regardless, I will do my best to ensure proper alignment prior to progressing. Apologies.
1402 4/16/2017 5:02:00 AM 1811-1812 Britain Message france won the battle at zurich with austria so nappy with lannes and massena is there.the map is wrong.so france has 15 dice (lost the pass because tried to retreat)and coalition 18;2france has to remove 2 units from previous battle;
1401 4/16/2017 4:55:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message good point about the dice,
it has to be ferdie +3 then, i suppose

perhaps in the future France should not be so eager to roll her dice but rather wait until all members of the projected attack force have expressed their consent to participate in battle

its holidays, not everyone can be constantly available for response and comment
1400 4/16/2017 4:51:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Message perhaps it was "to" Baden
as for changing the coalition force: dice have been rolled, so no move changes
1399 4/16/2017 4:47:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message Following last battle, Nappy was left in control of the field in Zurich (not Baden).
1398 4/16/2017 4:41:00 AM 1811-1812 Britain Message sorry guys i do not understand prussia attacks to zurich.why nappy roll to retreat from baden;
1397 4/16/2017 4:36:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message Unless Bulow picks up Kyoot and Tomasov and lets Ferdie rest then. Austria leaves this decision up to Ru/Pru.
1396 4/16/2017 4:16:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Message Actually no MP can lead troops of another MP
So it's 18 vs 15
1395 4/16/2017 2:57:00 AM 1811-1812 Austria Message i suppose ferdie could make up 4 by taking an extra russia, my brother willing?
1394 4/15/2017 5:06:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message Just checking map to confirm dispositions - AU took a loss in the last battle, so only 3AU possible being commanded by Ferd.

So would be 17 vs 16
1393 4/15/2017 4:28:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Message Agreed and yes, there are 4 cus
1392 4/15/2017 3:35:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message austria will participate if she is not obliged to take the odd loss. is bulow ok with that?

also, i dont have the map here - as austria suffered the odd casualty in the first battle of zurich, does the austrian commander have 4au to command?
1391 4/15/2017 9:53:00 AM 1811-1812 Prussia Message No cc
1390 4/15/2017 9:44:00 AM 1811-1812 France Message The pause for commitment was to ensure all the allies were agreeable to PR leading their armies, as cooperation tends to break down once the Coalition gains the upper hand. Of course I assumed AU goes with RU, so all there.

PR 18 vs FR 16; any CC?
1389 4/15/2017 9:42:00 AM 1811-1812 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
3


Message from France:
or not :(

Lannes w/1 intercept
1388 4/15/2017 9:40:00 AM 1811-1812 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
1


Message from France:
Nappy w/all retreat to FC
1387 4/15/2017 4:35:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Message If Lannes intercepts there will be 18 vs 18
Whatever
Russia has no CC
1386 4/14/2017 8:31:00 PM 1811-1812 France Message I'll wait for AU/RU commitment before any response.
1385 4/14/2017 7:24:00 PM 1811-1812 Prussia Prussia: Play Strategy card as Operations #25: 5 / Panic!
The loser of any battle suffers Attrition to all surviving (including disrupted) Units/leaders prior to any rout resolution. Any Attrition losses suffered inflicted are assessed first to non-disrupted Units/leaders and contribute to possible rout conditions. This event can be voided by play of the Rally or Rear Guard events prior to the Attrition roll.

Message from Prussia:
1-2 Bulow +4 to Wurtenburg

3-5 Bulow +4 Kut +6 and Ferd +4 to Zurich

This is contingent on Austria and Russia Joining in.

Looks like we would have 18 to up to 16 for France. Agree?

1384 4/14/2017 12:49:00 AM 1811-1812 Russia Message Lose 1 Au
Build 1 in Corfu
Prussia on
1383 4/13/2017 7:14:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message Russia isn't done, though. still got 2CPs
1382 4/13/2017 7:12:00 PM 1811-1812 Austria Message wow! what an epic battle! and only 3 killed!

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