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684 5/25/2017 4:43:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Brits can not burn as they are at minimum cards.

Austria does not burn. Russia may burn. - then France
683 5/25/2017 4:41:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Victory next?

Frogs in the lead

To Brits for card burn decision
682 5/25/2017 4:39:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message No loss

Flag them both
681 5/25/2017 4:39:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 5


Message from France:

Top 4 Hesse
Bottom Rotterdam
680 5/25/2017 4:38:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #50: 2 / Unguarded Approach
Void all Attrition and combat penalties for crossing one Pass, Rough or Strait. Event may be played after Attrition rolls or shore battery fire to void those results but not after battle dice to avoid land battle losses. A Fleet crossing a fortified strait may use this event to void shore battery fire.

Message from France:
1/2 Davout+3>Hesse
2/2 SP Brussels>Rotterdam

End of turn

I will roll attrition
679 5/25/2017 6:13:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #39: 3 / Stragglers
A moving, intercepting, evading or retreating Formation suffers Attrition in the space it has just entered and in each additional space it enters this Impulse. Once played, the affected Formation may not retract its move.

Message from Austria:
as CPs
Turkey to Aide +1

France up for final card
678 5/25/2017 4:49:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message No preempt
677 5/25/2017 3:04:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #3: 3 / Descent from the Sea
Place one Unit and a Flag of this nation in any unoccupied enemy Port of any Zone controlled by this nation's Camp. This Port cannot be a Fortress.

Message from Britain:
1-2/3 Build SP in Cornwall, now 4
2.5/3 Move Squadron from Edinburgh to North Sea, now 4
3/3 lost ...

Austria up or French preempt
676 5/24/2017 7:24:00 AM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #27: 4 / Outflanked
Side of your choice gains one battle die. All played battle cards in this round of battle are voided and discarded. Must be played prior to combat resolution.

Message from France:
1-3/4 Turk to Austrian friend
4/4 Flag Thuringia

Brits are up
675 5/22/2017 8:25:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #36: 3 / Cuiraissers Charge
Roll a die after any won battle and convert up to that number of "5" disrupt results into kills (6's). Voided by the Form Square event.

Message from Austria:
as CPs
Turkey to Aide +1 of Austria.

France is up.
674 5/22/2017 7:51:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Sorry. Bit swamped just now.

No preempt.
673 5/22/2017 6:08:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message waiting for French preempt decision.
672 5/21/2017 8:59:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #71: 6 / Spithead & the Nore
Draw a random card from the British hand (if available) and one from the Draw Pile. Not playable by Britain.

Message from Britain:
1-2/6 Move Moore+4 and Brunswick+3 from Auhalt to Berlin, joining Blucher+6
3-4/6 Build 1SP in Cornwall now 3
5-6/6 Build 1SP in Dublin

Austrians up or French preempt
671 5/21/2017 8:55:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I think it's my move now ...
670 5/19/2017 4:05:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message back - will send all some pictures from Italy. The fortress at Milan (circa late 1400s) was immense.

To Bill now that I see the map. No reason to intercept into the Napoleonic death star. When your turn comes perhaps you can move Moore to Berlin and hope for the best.
669 5/6/2017 7:02:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message I've played both reserves so no plus card.

But we should probably stop here as Pete might have a response to play. Unlikely but possible.
668 5/6/2017 12:50:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message No British response ...

Do you play another card or end your move ... its been so long I don't recall if you have a plus card remaining or not LOL
667 5/4/2017 6:28:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #8: 4 / Steal a March
This nation may Preempt unless doing so would give it consecutive Impulses. It may even Preempt an announced Preemption. It may spend 3 CP with this event in addition to possibly playing its Reserve. Not playable in 1805.

Message from France:
1-4/4 Nappy&Davout+11>Ratisbon>Thuringia

To Brits for response
666 5/4/2017 6:23:00 PM 1807-1808 France Denmark: Play Strategy card as Operations #908: 4 / Gallant Danes
Danish Fleets have an intercept/evade level of 8, throw three Battle dice per Squadron, and may void one "6" in battle during this Impulse. The Danes may use four Maneuvers this Impulse even if Inactive. OR Draw a card. RESERVE

Message from France:
1-3/4 Turk consul to friend of Austria

Burn the last 1
665 4/27/2017 5:28:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message keeping the game alive, since Pete will be away for a couple of weeks.
664 4/8/2017 9:07:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Denmark is up or France
663 4/8/2017 9:07:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #97: 3 / Hero
After seeing all Battle dice, select any one leader (with the owner's consent) who has not already been eliminated by a 6 to roll two dice to alter the battle outcome thus: 6 - eliminated enemy Unit, 5 - disrupt enemy Unit, 4 - rally friendly Unit, 1 - eliminate that leader, Doubles - may also void Rout.

Message from Austria:
as CPs
1) Turkey from Aide to Aide +1
2-3) SP in Vienna
662 4/8/2017 9:06:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message actually it is theoretically possible for Britain to conquer France, but realistically its just throwing away the Brit army
661 4/8/2017 8:57:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Not even funny ... :)
660 4/8/2017 8:40:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Let's finish the turn first.

With good cards and some luck Britain could conquer France this turn.
659 4/8/2017 7:36:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Sorry, I missed msg#641

I am good.

Let's do the counting and the burning and see if Steve wins the game.
658 4/8/2017 7:14:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Roberto - the Austrian submission is a done deal. Austria proposed and France accepted.

The ceded duchies are Venice, Dalmatia, Tyrol, and Linz. Those go to France.

Russia keeps Lublin and Krakow.

So you get 2 keys and I get 1. Were you expecting more?
657 4/8/2017 10:38:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message I went through the Conquest rules and this is my understanding of them and consequences to our current situation.

RULE: All Home Duchies (not Associate Duchies) flags are removed.
CURRENT SITUATION: Venice, Salzburg, and Linz get unfledged
RULE: Duchies are assigned to the Conqueror (in this case France) up to 3 based on a die roll, unless there is terms
CURRENT SITUATION: Steve gets up to three
RULE: Conqueror can assign conquered Duchies to Allies.
CURRENT SITUATION: Steve, you may want to ponder this (and of course, I would be very pleased to receive a key from my ally....). If you want to try to maximize your peace die roll, you should grab them all. If you want to ensure we keep our alliance going, you give me a key to get me also a chance of winning at the end of turn 3 (i.e. do the opposite of what Pete did...)
RULE: Grace Period
CURRENT SITUATION: I cannot attack Austria until the end of the next turn, even if I joined the Coalition camp.
656 4/7/2017 10:13:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Woohoo. So Prussia is fair game.

Knock yourself out Roberto.

I assume Submission is like conquest - in that all flags are removed from home duchies and then ceded duchies are reflagged Frog?

That would be Venice, Dalmatia, Tyrol, and Linz.

All Austrians outside of Austria go to regroup

France and Russia can freely traverse Austria but others cannot.

Remains in effect till the end of the turn following submission?

If so I will not preempt and Austriais up

If I have it wrong please correct.
655 4/7/2017 7:59:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Per 8.8 I believe Prussia remains in the Allied camp ...
654 4/7/2017 7:56:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message 8.8 SUBJECT NEUTRALS
If a Player Power Submits or is conquered, it becomes a Subject Neutral. Any Pacts it has do NOT become Neutral; they remain members of their current Camp and remain directed by the same player (see 15.25). However, their “+1 CP” marker is flipped to the “Neutral Builds” side in that Camp box signifying that
although controlled by a Subject Neutral, they are not “allied” to it for any purpose until that Subject Neutral joins it in the same Camp. The Subject Neutral’s former Allies (and current Proxy Pact Allies) must Regroup out of the Subject Neutral’s Controlled Duchies and respect each other’s borders as if they were not allied – which they aren’t – although the same player directs them both. Only a nation in a Camp may declare war on the Subject Neutral (see 15.24), and the Subject Neutral may not declare war on a nation not in a Camp. Even after the Grace Period expires, a Subject Neutral remains as such until it joins a Camp.
653 4/7/2017 7:38:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message I think the proxy is in the camp of its power. If the power leaves a camp so does it's proxy.

Check under conquest.
652 4/7/2017 7:17:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I looked in the rules but all I found was 15.4: "Proxies never voluntarily Submit"
651 4/7/2017 6:25:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Let's continue game when I return (waiting for connection now). I will be ahead at end of this turn but no assurance I can roll a victory.

What is status of Prussia. I think they leave the coalition along with Austria - correct?
650 4/7/2017 4:44:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message I understand holding off France, but it is still not a "value" (i.e. winning chance) proposition.

The Alliance players cannot afford to have one of them ahead in the game.
Because, for the remaining two players, it will be helping either France or the guy ahead winning.

Austria, Russia, and Britain had to maintain a balance of keys and pacts or there is no point of continue fighting France.

I had no chance of winning the game staying in the alliance at the end of Turn 1.

Anyway, we agree to disagree (and most likely I am wrong since I am the most inexperienced player here).
Will send a petition to the Executive Committee for BeachCon..:-)

Having said all that, shall we continue the game? May be Russia switch back again and we have Russia, Prussia, and Britain against France...hahahahaha

649 4/7/2017 3:38:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message The "value proposition" for staying in the Alliance is to keep the French from winning on Turn 2. Austria is not strong enough to hold off the French by themselves especially early in the game ... Sometimes the Austrians and Russians together cannot hold off the French. The British cannot provide much help on the continent until they get Wellington and build up their army ...
648 4/7/2017 3:29:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Roberto it's a game invitation amongst the executive committee still occurring but the host may downgrade your room choice 😏
647 4/7/2017 3:23:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message ....I guess all this is probably costing me the invitation to next BeachCon....:-#!
646 4/7/2017 1:59:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Happy to have the same conversation with Steve.
None of you has still provided to me with what was my value proposition for staying in the alliance.
Instead of having France rolling for Victory, I had you rolling for Victory again. Duh!

You could have stopped France this turn.
You were not lucky with the dice, but you also played recklessly.
You could have had Prussians in Linz and Turks behind Vienna, or Venice.
645 4/7/2017 1:55:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message And if you remember you will see I had almost as many Austrians in the north as the south (up till we lost Munich)
644 4/7/2017 1:54:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Ask Steve what he thinks about your play.

And I took everyone out of Italy on turn 2 except 2 Turks and 2 Austrians.
643 4/7/2017 1:52:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message winning is the object. Balance - after the first turn, France was still stronger than any single power.
If Austria was second then one might take the approach of having Austria and France exhaust each other while another power, say Russia grabbed keys elsewhere. To arrange for the demise of Austria means Russia will now be alone. And at the end of the first turn Austria was simply lucky when the French army in Italy collapse - it could have gone either way. Austria encourage Russia to advance too.
642 4/7/2017 1:47:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Pete, happy to start the blame game, if you enjoy so...:-)
I think you fail to realize that it was you, with your closing play on turn 1, to upset the balance of the game.

My reading of this game is that it is not about beating France, is about winning individually.
If one wants Powers to stay in the coalition, one should play a game that, at max, allow one of the ally (Britain, Austria, or Russia) to roll for victory with a 6.
As soon as one creates a situation by which fighting France only allows one of the allies to roll for victory on a +2 - +4 chance, it is pointless to stay in the alliance. You are giving the game to the other guy!

You gambled well at the end of the turn (I would have likely done the same), but the dice did not help you (we could have had a very different conversation at this point)

I think you did NOT play a good second turn.
I offered a truce in exchange of two (useless for you) Turkish keys.
You could have used all your cards, resources, troops, and eventually the Prussians to fight back the French. You even wasted a Prussian move to send troops to Lodz (rather than moving Blucher towards Vienna)

I tried to maintain the balance playing Mud (which was more to block France from rolling you than for my benefit). I also refrained to play Sultan Ears until you stubbornly continued to move the Turks against me rather than towards Vienna (nuts!). I was clearly willing to keep the Turks with you to contain France.

The only thing you should have done was to give me two keys and use Turks, Prussians, and the crown troops to fight the Ogre. You had just one card less than the French.

You are responsible for this situation, not me.

My plan at the beginning of turn 2 was to get two keys. Mission accomplished.
Your plan was to block the French. You failed.

As stated, it was pointless for me to stay in the coalition and provide troops to defend Vienna, while you used all your armies to keep 3 keys in Italy (there were only 2 Austrian SPs between Munich and Vienna, all the rest were Tzar's soldiers....). My value proposition? Being lucky if at the end of turn 2 I had conquered Munich....
This is what you were offering me. How on Earth could you expect me to accept...?!?
641 4/7/2017 1:47:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Ok Pete.
Submission offer accepted.

I head out shortly for airport. Will be out of country for three weeks. No gaming till I return.
640 4/7/2017 1:16:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Russia could have even joined France and attacked Sweden and Turkey - gets him keys and doesn't upset the balance of power as horribly as he did.
639 4/7/2017 1:14:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Offer the same, if I go down more than 1 key I will be down to 2 cards. And the Brit is also down to 2 cards. At that point there is little point in continuing the game. France will just roll over everyone. As it is France is guaranteed to get 8 cards next turn - it has a resource and will probably get another one.

Russia failed to realize France is a lot stronger than all other powers and his attack on me guaranteed my demise - basically a Russian play like that is equivalent to playing for 2nd - it worked - he can just stay allied to France and be safe. Sort of a pointless play. My army is gone and thus Russia can not afford to join the Coalition as France will just roll over it too. France will now be able to either attack and destroy me every other turn or alternatively if Russia is against France - France can hit Russia on alternate turns.

I am willing to concede the game to France.

current victory conditions
2 Pact Allies and probably can get all the rest with 8 cards next turn.
3 keys already + at least 1 more
1 resource (will get more next turn)
Spain gets 3 cards.

For me to give you more than 1 key is senseless. I have only a 1/3 chance of losing 3 keys in a peace (already lost the 2 associates to Russia). I have a 1/3 chance of only giving up 1 key. Might as well do whatever.
638 4/7/2017 12:34:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message The Turks do not suffer attrition

Venice is flagged Spanish
637 4/7/2017 11:50:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message forget question 1
636 4/7/2017 11:42:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message I have three questions:
1) msg#575: did Rome get unfledged? (i.e. is it still flagged Austrian?)
2) msg#601: should the turks in Odessa suffer attrition before regrouping?
3) msg #602: Is Venice flagged Spanish?
635 4/7/2017 7:48:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Pete - you might want to make another offer.
I can preempt and take both Vienna and Prague. That gives an automatic conquest.
634 4/7/2017 1:23:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Continuing ...
2/4 Remove Refit marker from Squadron in Cornwall and sail said Squadron into the Channel. One Squadron in the Channel and 3 in the North Sea
3-4/4 Move Moore + 4 from Oldenburg to Anhalt, joining Brunswick + 3

Austria is up or French preempt ...

633 4/6/2017 9:16:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Yes - Froggies even sunker

Oh well - Brits may continue
632 4/6/2017 9:15:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3


Message from France:
Can the Froggies sink more?
631 4/6/2017 9:14:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Sorry - there were 3 Brits
630 4/6/2017 9:14:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Frogs go down

Brits may continue
629 4/6/2017 9:13:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 9


Message from France:
I don't suppose Brits will play a card so I will roll.

Top 7 are Brit
628 4/6/2017 8:57:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Nope - all clear out there

Battle at 7-2
627 4/6/2017 8:56:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2


Message from France:
Froggies look for a fog bank
626 4/6/2017 8:08:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Found ... French flee or fight?
625 4/6/2017 8:07:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2


Message from Britain:
Searching the North Sea need 7+
624 4/6/2017 8:07:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #14: 4 / Depot Captured
Any nation that has Flagged or unflagged an enemy Capital or Fortress (including its own while under enemy control) during this Impulse draws a card plus another for each Capital or Fortress so gained.

Message from Britain:
No map but maybe I remember enough to move

0.5/4 Move the 3 British Squadrons from the Channel to the North Sea
1/4 Search the North Sea for the French Squadron
623 4/6/2017 2:38:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I'm at work without map I can move later ... having said that the French are probably up +5 or so and can get more ... looking kinda hopeless I think ...
622 4/6/2017 1:38:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message 3 keys is the max you can get why would I offer you that. As it is Iif I give you more than 1 key I am down to 2 card basically I am doomed In any case I think you have won already
621 4/6/2017 1:35:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Brits are up
620 4/6/2017 1:34:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from France:
Resource burn
619 4/6/2017 1:34:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message I asked for 3 keys and you offer 1? Sorry but thats not good enough. And I see there can be only 1 offer per impulse, so I will continue

4/6 Flag Salzburg
5/6 Unflag Rome
6/6 Marmont+3>Picardy

I will also burn the resource to draw a card
618 4/6/2017 12:31:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message The associates will be kept by Russia who controls them now.

I have to make an offer to you - having just read the rules.

I will give up Tyrol, Venice, Dalmatia and Linz
617 4/6/2017 12:16:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message What is the deal with associate duchies in a submission?
616 4/6/2017 12:14:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message No loot.

Terms? Conquest would get me a resource and 1-3 keys (average is 2).
I'm thinking that 3 keys would be fair to account for the lost resource.

Let me know what you think is fair.
615 4/6/2017 11:59:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1


Message from France:
Loot roll
614 4/6/2017 11:06:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message Austrians exterminated. Flag overrun. French may continue their moves. Austria is willing to submit. Terms?
613 4/6/2017 11:05:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 13


Message from Austria:

612 4/6/2017 11:05:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 21


Message from Austria:
French attack
611 4/6/2017 8:08:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message No Frog BCs
610 4/6/2017 7:06:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message cards from French.
609 4/6/2017 7:06:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message ok the battle is 21 to 13.
608 4/6/2017 7:05:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2


Message from Austria:
well that did not work.

Lets see if Charles and 6 can intercept.
607 4/6/2017 7:04:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2


Message from Austria:
OK John and 3 attempt to evade to Munich
606 4/6/2017 1:56:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Pete -- looks like they moved during #401 ...
605 4/5/2017 11:01:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message when did the 4 SPs from Wurttemberg join Davout. I do not show them in Munich and I looked through the log and could not find them moving. I could be wrong. Please confirm how they moved, if not spend the extra OP and move them there.
604 4/5/2017 10:00:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #32: 6 / Anglo-American War
Britain must remove two Formations and two Squadrons to this Foreign War. Discard from play when War ends. If played by a Proxy Neutral during Turn 4 or later, it must be played as an event.

Message from France:

1/6 Nappy+7>Munich
2,3/6 Nappy&Davout+13>Linz

To Austrians for response
603 4/5/2017 9:56:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Denmark passes
602 4/5/2017 9:56:00 PM 1807-1808 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Operations #16: 5 / Conscripts
A leader of your choice is given two more Units of its nationality - even during battle. The added Units may exceed the Commander's Command Rating even if it is moved into the battle. Afterwards those Units would be subject to normal command restrictions. Can be played even AFTER seeing all battle dice for two extra die rolls in that battle.

Message from France:
1/5 Castanos+4>Milan
2/5 Flag Venice
3/5 2SP Milan>Venice
4,5/5 Build SP Granada
601 4/5/2017 9:30:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message All Turks outside of Turkey to regroup
600 4/5/2017 9:29:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Prussia: Play Strategy card as Event #906: 6 / Raise the Landwehr
Place three Units and a Leader in any Friendly Prussian Home Duchy. The event (only) cannot be used on Turn 1: the 6 CPs and the "+" capability are usable on Turn 1. RESERVE

Message from Austria:
Blue her plus 3 SP in Berlin

Spain is up
599 4/5/2017 9:27:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Turkey: Change Nation Owner to Neutral Message from Austria:
598 4/5/2017 9:22:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Prussia is up
597 4/5/2017 8:21:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message No response.

French Preempt or Prussia
596 4/5/2017 7:47:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Event #77: 6 / The Sultan's Ear
Move Turkish Consul two boxes on the Diplomatic Track. This event may break Pact status.

Message from Russia:
The Sultan wants gifts to keep fighting in this crazy alliance....
Got money?
595 4/5/2017 1:21:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Rather Russia is up
594 4/5/2017 1:18:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Note that France has preempt

Austria is up
593 4/5/2017 1:17:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Russia up
592 4/5/2017 1:17:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Event #64: 5 / Call up the next class
Place four Units of a nationality of your choice in one friendly Home space of that nationality. If played by a Neutral Proxy, it must build in its Capital.

Message from Austria:
Well I guess I need this as event add 4 SPs to Vienna
591 4/5/2017 12:59:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message LOL go figure ...

British lose a Squadron and remaining Squadron retreats to Edinburgh

Austria is up ...
590 4/5/2017 12:54:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 8


Message from Britain:
Per Rule 13.9 the French cannot evade so we have a sea battle

First 2 French
Last 6 British
589 4/5/2017 12:52:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2


Message from Britain:
British intercept French in the North Sea
588 4/5/2017 12:52:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #6: 4 / Drought
All other nations must discard one card of their choice if they have any. Non-Pact Proxies discard randomly. Ends Mud event.

Message from Britain:
1-3/4 Sail Moore + 4 by convoy from Cornwall to Oldenburg. 2SP remain in Cornwall
4/4 Flag Rotterdam British, French Squadron puts to sea
587 4/5/2017 8:43:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message A landing in Oldenburg right now would probably be the best option for your troops and it would have the added benefit in that you could flag Rotterdam and force the French fleet there out into the North Sea (to kill it)
586 4/4/2017 9:49:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message There are other places I could sail my army to but now that the ground is dry those moves are more risky ...
585 4/4/2017 9:47:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Pete -- Bad luck in Italy :(

To try to help you I could convoy my army from Cornwall to Oldenburg to join up with the Prussians

Or I could force the Russians and French to discard a card but you would lose one also. Something to consider perhaps if you have weak cards and/or you want to stop the Russians from moving ...


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