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898 5/25/2017 4:50:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Austria:
John w/4 will attempt intercept
897 5/25/2017 4:02:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #7: 4 / Minor Forces
Place two Units of an Associate Duchy in that Duchy. They attack any non-friendly Formations present without evasion and before any interception is attempted.

Message from France:
Nap + 8 to Zurich. Will John or Colloredo intercept?
896 5/24/2017 11:30:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message France takes us out!
895 5/24/2017 7:50:00 PM 1807-1808 Prussia Message If you look carefully at post 860, I already answered this question.

860
5/21/2017 1:13:00 AM
1807-1808
Prussia
Message
No resource spending for my part.
894 5/24/2017 2:24:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Gordon, do you want to burn a resource to draw a card, or should France play his last card?
893 5/24/2017 3:46:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #74: 4 / Turning Movement
One of your Armies may move two spaces without interception, Attrition or enemy evasion. It may pick up or drop off Units. Battle occurs only if you enter a space containing an enemy Formation. Turning Movement cannot occur through a Fortress or an enemy Formation unless that Formation is Overrun.

Message from Austria:
Britain - yes it's obvious you'll win here; doesn't hurt to ask
;-)

1-2) build CU Tyrol
3) John + 1 Tyrol to Milan
4) unflag Salzburg

back to RU/PR for using resource?
892 5/23/2017 6:21:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Do what you will.
891 5/23/2017 8:27:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Not sure what France's pleasure might be in perpetuating this gangbang only to make sure Austria can win instead of Britain. Perhaps you should offer some sweetener?
890 5/23/2017 2:59:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message France - would Napoleon want to 'evade' a couple spaces backwards? Obviously I'd like to grab Munich, but can push you to Baden if you're looking to retake Paris.
889 5/23/2017 12:14:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message rout and flag overrun

Austria is up
888 5/22/2017 3:12:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

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Message from France:
Brave French defenders
887 5/22/2017 3:11:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10

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Message from France:
Brits
886 5/22/2017 3:07:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message cool
roll them bones, mon ami
885 5/22/2017 1:02:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Welly lost one in the last fight.
Fight at Paris.
884 5/22/2017 1:00:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message 2/2 Welly +6 > Paris

france has options
883 5/22/2017 12:59:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message flag overrun then in any case
882 5/22/2017 12:42:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Ah, right you are. Knock off the last 2 die rolls for the French.
881 5/22/2017 12:33:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message The formation from Paris was not an Army, so could not have intercepted to start with. The Picardy unit could evade, but Paris couldn't intercept.
880 5/22/2017 12:31:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Yes, sad but true.
879 5/22/2017 12:21:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message no, the defeated formation was not an army, so no roll for resource, but a rout and a flag overrun, no?
878 5/22/2017 12:15:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I believe the battle is a rout?

In which case the battle is a flag overrun, britain gets to roll for resource, and has 1CP outstanding.

Am I correct?


877 5/22/2017 8:02:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Survivors retreat to Paris.
876 5/22/2017 7:53:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 5

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Message from France:
French defend with 5
875 5/22/2017 7:52:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 11

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Message from France:
Brits attack with 11
874 5/22/2017 7:51:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from France:
Try intercept from Paris, +1
873 5/22/2017 1:15:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #102: 2 / Duke d'Enghien Affair
No Power may join the Imperial Camp in the next Interphase. All Consuls on an Imperial nation's row of the Diplomatic Track not already in Pact status move one box to the left. If the Consul is in +1 status, it is also flipped to its normal side. Unlike other diplomatic events, this may be played during the first round of 1805.

Message from Britain:
not what i hoped for, but here it goes

1/2 Welly +6 > Picardy

french have options
872 5/22/2017 1:14:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
Burn resource
871 5/21/2017 6:08:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message never mind, you fixed it
870 5/21/2017 6:07:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Soult should only have 4FU
869 5/21/2017 1:25:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Britain can spend a resource. If not, Austria is up.
868 5/21/2017 1:23:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

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Message from France:
Make that Soult +3. Attrition from Limoges to Toulouse.
867 5/21/2017 1:22:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #50: 2 / Unguarded Approach
Void all Attrition and combat penalties for crossing one Pass, Rough or Strait. Event may be played after Attrition rolls or shore battery fire to void those results but not after battle dice to avoid land battle losses. A Fleet crossing a fortified strait may use this event to void shore battery fire.

Message from France:
Soult + 5 to Limoge, then to Toulouse
866 5/21/2017 1:13:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from France:
865 5/21/2017 1:13:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from France:
864 5/21/2017 1:13:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Event #29: 5 / Extended Campaign Season
Draw two cards if you have no other cards remaining. You may play one immediately. May not be played during the Early Snowfall event.

Message from France:
863 5/21/2017 12:26:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message but never mind that
france is up
862 5/21/2017 3:31:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message so theoretically, before the AU turn BR could have spent her rsc to draw a card
861 5/21/2017 3:27:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Austria: regarding your VP count, Britain still has 1 rsc (she started the turn with 2)
860 5/21/2017 1:13:00 AM 1807-1808 Prussia Message No resource spending for my part.
859 5/21/2017 12:49:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message 11.33 explains disrupts - France would still get nationality bonus despite troops being disrupted. Dice would have been 4 (AU suffered 1k/1d) v 1 (2d) for round 2, so result is same. FR unit dies, but takes 1AU with him. Overrun but not flag overrun.

2) survivors back to Linz

RU/PR resource use?
858 5/20/2017 6:35:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 5

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Message from France:
It's a tie. If I understand this situation correctly, there is a second round, with no French dice. I believe the national bonus doesn't apply if no undisrupted troops are there.
Austrians roll 5.
857 5/20/2017 6:30:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 9

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Message from France:
6 vs 3, Austrians on top
856 5/20/2017 6:27:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 2 / To the Death
Void any land evasion (including the effects of previously played events such as Hussars & Grenzers) OR a just defeated enemy must fight a new battle without further terrain effect, evasion, interception, or retreat.

Message from Austria:
assuming that's correct:
1) Ferd w/4 Linz to Salzburg
6 vs 3; FR can roll
855 5/20/2017 6:25:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Just wanting to confirm keys and points, as they appear off in the file:

FR -7 FR +1 Salzburg +1 rsc = -5
BR +3 (Rome, Brussels, Toulouse) = +3
AU +2 (Milan, Zurich) -1 Salzburg = +1
RU +1 (Marseilles) +1 rsc = +2
PR +1 (Nassau) +1 rsc +1 ally = +3
854 5/19/2017 6:06:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Unflag Lyon. Austria is up.
853 5/19/2017 5:09:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Nat'l bonus made the difference. 2 losses each side but RU lose battle and retreat>Marseilles.
852 5/19/2017 5:05:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 11

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Message from Russia:
French;
6+3+2=11
851 5/19/2017 5:05:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10

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Message from Russia:
Russians;
6+3+1=10
850 5/19/2017 5:00:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Russia:
Intercept attempt from Marseilles +2
849 5/18/2017 7:49:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message 2/3: Soult + 6 to Lyon. If we fight, no cards here, Russia can resolve.
848 5/18/2017 2:03:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message sorry,I was gone for a day and didn't think you needed me.
No intercept at this time
847 5/18/2017 6:46:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Aaron!
846 5/16/2017 5:49:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #34: 3 / Bravest of the Brave
If available to be built, create a "1-4" leader for either side in a battle space. It may affect that battle by rolling an extra die even after all the battle dice have been thrown. It remains in play until eliminated.

Message from France:
Soult + 6 to Champagne. Will Kutuzov intercept?
845 5/16/2017 3:37:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message no resource
844 5/16/2017 1:49:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message RU/PR to confirm not using Resources, then France
843 5/16/2017 1:48:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #104: 3 / Lost Dispatch
Roll a die. That many enemy Units/leaders of their Commander's choice do not appear in the first round of battle and are unaffected by losses therefrom. If the battle is lost, they must retreat with the survivors of the battle. If no Units/leaders remain to give battle, none is fought and they retreat. If a second round is fought, they participate normally.

Message from Austria:
1-2) build CU Linz
3) 2CU Vienna to Linz
842 5/16/2017 1:41:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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Message from Austria:
There is nothing on BGG regarding Calvary Raids that I could find. Only on consimworld as previously pointed out.
OK, let's move on with the extra loss.

Calvary Raids originates with Napoleon, so Tyrol must also roll for attrition.
Leader, 1CU and inherent flag
841 5/16/2017 1:01:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Russia has already agreed to loose an extra unit. If this is the only card that causes attrition roles, it won't come up again. Otherwise, sure, flip a coin
840 5/16/2017 11:06:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message gents
i have always played with inherent flags rolling attrition
surely, u can get an opinion on boardgamegeek
if u cannot
could just toss a did to resolve the issue?
im sure we'd all like to move on?
839 5/14/2017 8:06:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message While not stated, is not reasonable to assume that "inherent garrisons" also represent police, judicial, tax collecting, etc. infrastrucure neccesssary for any power to exercise "control" over historically autonomous regions? Is a Cavalry raid imbued with the capacity to overthrow the whole administration?
838 5/14/2017 7:59:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message An "inherent flag" represents an "inherent garrison" which confers "control". In this case they may be considered pre-war garrisons. If an inherent garrison can become a casualty, then control is lost and the Duchy becomes independent. While this may be historically defensible, is it the intent of the card to empower Cavalry raids to create liberated Duchies beholden to none of the Powers? What rules would govern this?
837 5/13/2017 6:26:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message From the rules:
A Flag is a hexagonal piece.... A Flag is placed or removed.

An inherent flag is not a hexagonal piece, and is neither placed nor removed.

and would not need an explanation on the card if inherent flag was a Flag.
836 5/13/2017 12:53:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message From the rules:
Forces: Units, leaders and Flags
835 5/13/2017 12:52:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message And I'm not sure what you are talking about :)
From the rules:
Flag: A hexagonal piece representing an inherent garrison placed on the map to show a nationís Control of a Duchy. No Flag is placed if a Duchy is Controlled by the nation which Controlled it at the start of play, but is considered to be _inherently present_
So, inherent flags are flags. Seems quite clear.
834 5/13/2017 12:15:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message not sure what you mean? The rules call for unflagging an originally controlled duchy.
i.e. from 7.41:
A Formation may Flag/unflag any unfortified Duchy it occupies.

Flag is used as capitalized but unflag is obviously not.
833 5/13/2017 12:06:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message would Austria then have to reflag an uncontested original duchy and do the rules allow same?
832 5/13/2017 10:02:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message The definitions in the rules do not explicitly state that inherent flags are "Flags". If so, again no reason for Calvary Raids to state "Unoccupied enemy Duchies adjacent...". This exception definitely implies that inherent flags are not a "Flag" for Forces, else would not need to have the exception.

The rules for submission definitely do not count inherent flags as Forces. I've looked and can only find explanations which back up my interpretation that Calvary Raids only roll for inherent flags of unoccupied duchies. Please find something in bgg or csw or any other gaming post which substantiates your explanation.
831 5/13/2017 6:35:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message And, the "fortress" flags" exception in the card text implies that other flags are subject to attrition.
830 5/13/2017 6:33:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message The card text says to roll for _adjacent_ unoccupied spaces. The definitions in the rules explicitly say inherent flags are flags (which are forces). It seems very plain to me.
829 5/13/2017 3:21:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message Obviously I did check the definition, or wouldn't be arguing the point. Inherent flags are most definitely NOT forces when it comes to submission. Searching consimworld, I don't see an authoritative (from designer) answer but there are several posts stating that the inherent flag only gets a roll for cavalry raids if unoccupied.

Example post:
http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.ee6e9b5/11738

There are no posts that i found which indicate that an inherent flag gets rolled for except in unoccupied duchies.
Again I'll point out that if inherent flags were universally considered forces, there wouldn't need to be the exception on the card text to roll for unoccupied spaces.
828 5/12/2017 5:47:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message See definitions for Flag and Force in the rules. Flag includes inherent flags, Force includes flags.
827 5/12/2017 1:29:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Just checking the rules and I disagree that inherent flags are Forces. A flag is the hexagonal marker; it must be placed or removed (per definition). There would be no reason to add the card's qualification regarding "Unoccupied enemy Duchies" if inherent flags was already included in the definition of Forces.
826 5/12/2017 1:26:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message er
will make map with french and BRITISH moves tonight
825 5/12/2017 1:26:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message unable to make a map now, will make one to cover french and austrian moves tonite
824 5/12/2017 1:23:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Austria up
823 5/12/2017 1:23:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Battle of Rome:

1 BU killed
1 FU kiled

Br wins because the French have been eliminated

continuing:

2/2 Flag Rome
822 5/12/2017 12:02:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message ok
821 5/12/2017 6:02:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Given the rules definitions of Force and Flag, the inherent flag does get a die roll.
I ask Austria to remove the CUs in their file.
820 5/12/2017 5:55:00 AM 1807-1808 Austria Message I might be incorrect, but I don't believe the inherent flag counts for Linz; I understand that empty spaces roll per specific instructions of the event, and a flag in a space counts, but not sure of inherent flag of an friendly-occupied space.

Austria takes the odd loss if 3; have to split if 4.
819 5/12/2017 5:26:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 8

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Message from France:
Brits (top) have 5
French have 3
818 5/12/2017 1:19:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #60: 2 / Nationalist Uprisings
Remove Flags from any two non-Fortress Duchies. This event is not usable against an "inherently flagged space" controlled only by the color of the spaced. The removal of flags by this event is not interceptable.

Message from Britain:
1/2 beresford +3 >Rome again

France can roll
817 5/11/2017 7:44:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message 4 kills to divide.
816 5/11/2017 7:43:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from France:
A flag is part of a force, so one more die.
815 5/11/2017 7:39:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Austria and Russia to decide on how to split 3 kills. No file, Britain is up.
814 5/11/2017 7:38:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10

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Message from France:

813 5/11/2017 7:38:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Event #59: 3 / Cavalry Raids
Choose any one friendly Army (not necessarily your own). All enemy Forces adjacent to that Army suffer Attrition (except Fortress Flags and those in battle). Unoccupied enemy Duchies adjacent to that Army also check for Attrition and are flagged by that Army if they fail. Voided by Form Square.

Message from France:
For the event, vs. Linz
812 5/11/2017 4:14:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message its because i did not get a chance to make the map (was traveling) and asked AU to incorporate my moves into his file and i guess he never did. i will check the current map for accuracy of British positions and post whatever changes need to be posted now.
811 5/10/2017 10:49:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message BTW, I have only downloaded posted mapfiles, and I don't have Beresford in Naples. Someone please clarify and/or change
810 5/10/2017 10:47:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message map posted, including making the change Krakow as AU pointed out
809 5/10/2017 10:44:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message back to FR
808 5/10/2017 10:43:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message sorry, can't do that. Flag Limoges
807 5/10/2017 10:40:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Operations #42: 2 / Form Square
Voids these events for the rest of this Impulse, even after seeing their results: Cuiraissers Charge, Cavalry Raids, Lancers and Uhlans. Cavalry Raids results can be voided for the most recent space rolled and all yet-to-be rolled results.

Message from Russia:
1/2 Kutusov+6RU Marseilles>Lyon
2/2 flag Champagne
806 5/10/2017 9:08:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Austria:
use my resource to draw a card

no further preempt option

Russia up
805 5/10/2017 7:03:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Austria
804 5/10/2017 6:52:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message au or france preempt
803 5/10/2017 6:52:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message at least i didnt lose half my army :)
802 5/10/2017 5:31:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Repulsed again.
801 5/10/2017 5:31:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 8

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Message from France:
Brits (top) have 5
French have 3
800 5/10/2017 7:14:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Austria
It's indifferent to prussia whether Paris is flagged by the British or the Austrians. But had he taken and flagged picardy he would have gained an extra card. Of course it doesn't much matter as prussian attention seems all focused on Turkish naval matters
799 5/10/2017 7:12:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Prussia
read message 705
Beresford is in naples

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