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944 4/24/2017 11:17:00 PM Master ID = 21696 Game Deleted
943 4/24/2017 11:17:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I have some thoughts on tanks vs infantry in both games. It's late so I'll probably do a sepcor perhaps tomorrow. I'm quite happy to do FF:GD some more. Tactical WW2 hits a sweet spot for me. I will end this game and delete it. Talk tomorrow!
942 4/24/2017 9:52:00 PM Turn 11 German Message I had a Smoke and a Demolitions Asset cards left in my hand.

I wouldn't mind playing another scenario. I obviously have not mastered this game…so I can't say that I'm done with it.
I have to do better about planning offensives for when I have Mission Command.

I would term this game (like Operation Dauntless), a "bi-polar" game -- tanks...and infantry which can't do anything against the tanks except hide from them (or try to melee with them, but they move away soooo fast).


941 4/24/2017 7:59:00 PM Turn 11 German Message I'm stuck in a long phone call……I'll have some stuff to say about FF:GD afterwards.
940 4/24/2017 7:49:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Oh, and also got three light mortars although one did hit against the odds and take out one of your squads so I guess I shouldn't complain.
939 4/24/2017 7:45:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message One of my very few complaints about a Chad Jensen designed wargame just cropped up. The only place that mentions the Rocket Battery having a two hex area of impact is at the bottom left column of the Barrage Player Aid card. It should mention that on the Asset Card - there's plenty of room for it.

I went through about 3/4's of my deck to finally get the Rocket Battery. In that course of drawing cards I got one Medium Battery but never a heavy battery and maybe (I don't remember) one Fighter Bomber card...got all my PTRD elephant guns and several Demolitions. Also got all three of the Command & Control cards but I think I used them poorly except for the last one. Flipping your markers to the Tactical Command side was not as useful as I thought it might be.
938 4/24/2017 7:36:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Any thoughts about our next venture? I would like to take a few days off and let the smoke clear out from my brain. Another FF/GD would suit me or any of our other options. We could go "simple" and play Bulge20 again or "Manoeuvre" (I think you have a copy don't you that I may have given you?), or do a naval game (EotS, 1805, PQ-17). And there's always "For The People", to be put on the table. Lots of choices.
937 4/24/2017 7:31:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I was going to use the Political Commissar to for an Advance order at some point. My thought was to sneak the SMG platoons through the woods and then go into close combat with your infantry hiding there and advance the ATG in G38 to the edge of the cliff (the level 2 crest) and start having a gun duel with your tanks. If I activated my two T-34s and got them on the west side of you I'd almost have a perfect crossfire with the KV's to your south.
936 4/24/2017 7:27:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message The five remaining cards in my hand: Three PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle elephant guns...useless except as fodder for APCR. Well actually they could take out the Pz II with a little bit of luck. A Demolitions card and since I'm the one with the fortifications quite useless except as APCR fodder. And the Political Commisar. I had a pretty good use for it coming up but it's less powerful than I thought since it only activates infantry and guns, not tanks.
935 4/24/2017 7:24:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message BTW, the "?" in I42 in the T-34 squad, a RiflePlt and an Entrenchments marker.
934 4/24/2017 7:22:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Actually I should say I gratefully accept your resignation...
933 4/24/2017 7:22:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I gracefully accept your resignation. Any thoughts about the scenario?
932 4/24/2017 7:21:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

12
15


Message from Russian:
Entrenchments in the woods in F33. Need a 30 or 28 to hit. The Barrage procedure says subract 2 from hit number if the piece is in the woods and doesn't say anything about it being a fortification. I don't see how splinters would hurt the entrenchments that much so I'll let you decide on it.
931 4/24/2017 7:19:00 PM Turn 11 German Message D34 hit chit
Pinned/Unc. Kill

C34 hit chits
Suppressed/Rattled
Broken/Rattled

G34 hit chit
Unc. Kill/Pinned

Okay, now I'm ready to resign.
930 4/24/2017 7:19:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

15
14


Message from Russian:
The other GrenSqd in C34. Need 14 to hit.
929 4/24/2017 7:18:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Just read the Barrage procedures and it calls for rolling for each unit and fortification in the hexes so I have to roll for the other GrenSqd in C34 and the trenches in F33.
928 4/24/2017 7:15:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I hit on every chance. Probably further demoralizing the German commander.
927 4/24/2017 7:15:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

20
17


Message from Russian:
PzIVF1 in G34. Need 17 to hit.
926 4/24/2017 7:13:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Two hit chits...
925 4/24/2017 7:13:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

1
13


Message from Russian:
Gren Squads in C34. I think I roll only once for the whole hex. Need 14 to hit.
924 4/24/2017 7:12:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Hit chit...
923 4/24/2017 7:11:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

9
8


Message from Russian:
GrenPlt in D34. Need 14 to hit.
922 4/24/2017 7:10:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Oops, I forgot that the Rocket battery did that.
921 4/24/2017 7:10:00 PM Turn 11 German Message And just to make things worse, you haven't rolled yet for the rocket battery attacks against targets 2 hexes away.
920 4/24/2017 7:07:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I think I understand your idea of conceding now - I didn't fully comprehend what was up. I have all three of my remaining objectives defended and only need to take out one more infantry unit of yours to get the VPs in my favor. Since you can't gain VPs by eliminating my units it is very difficult for you.
919 4/24/2017 7:01:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message End of order. Over to you.
918 4/24/2017 7:00:00 PM Turn 11 German Message hit chit
Pinned/Unc. Kill
917 4/24/2017 6:47:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Hit chit.
916 4/24/2017 6:47:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

17
6


Message from Russian:
MG34 Plt in F33. Need 14 to hit. +6 cover for trenches but -2 for splintering in woods hex.
915 4/24/2017 6:45:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message If you wish to call it I have no issues. I'm not sure all is lost for you but I certainly understand the feeling.
914 4/24/2017 6:44:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Pz II hit chit
Immobilized/Pinned

I/m getting close to conceding this scenario.
913 4/24/2017 6:42:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Hit chit.
912 4/24/2017 6:41:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

8
20


Message from Russian:
PzII in E32. Need a 13 to hit.
911 4/24/2017 6:41:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message The Fate Card breaks VP ties so you have a half point.
910 4/24/2017 6:40:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Edit Victory Points Russian: from 0 to 0
German: from 1 to 0.5
909 4/24/2017 6:40:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message To the morgue.
908 4/24/2017 6:39:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

10
8


Message from Russian:
Suppressed Plt in D33. Need 14 to hit.
907 4/24/2017 6:38:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Lands in E33.
906 4/24/2017 6:37:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 1

13


Message from Russian:
Rocket Battery scatter roll.
905 4/24/2017 6:36:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Target hex is E34. I believe my MCM in M33 has a LOS there. It's close but I think it misses the crest in L33 and then misses the woods symbol in F33.

Yes, I got the Rocket Battery as my last card draw last turn. YYou will be amused by the rest of my hand. Well I guess they do work as APCR and LMG assets...Interesting that neither of us has used the L ability in any of our games so far. I think it can be a useful thing.
904 4/24/2017 6:33:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Chris is so happy! He got his rocket battery.
Hooray for you.

No counter-battery fire --- I expect that these cards will be the last cards left in my deck, long after you've fired off everything in your repertoire.
903 4/24/2017 6:25:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Edit Initiative Russian: from 8 to 0
German: from 0 to 1
902 4/24/2017 6:25:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Russian Order

9-Cube
Asset Order
AC #34 Rocket Battery

Counter Battery?
901 4/24/2017 6:22:00 PM Turn 11 German Message I agree with your LOS determinations.

"Good moves on your part…"
I'm going to frame this. For posterity.
900 4/24/2017 6:19:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Before I make my next order I think we should agree on some Lines of Sight. Remember all LOS's are mutual.

I think my KV-1 in N32 can see the PzIVF2 in F35 because the KV-1 on Level 2 can see over all hexes at Level 1 and Level 0 and there are no trees or buildings to create a shadow.

My KV's cannot see your PzIVF1 in I34 for two different reasons. My KV in M33 is looking along it's level and the LOS crosses the crest from Level 1 to Level 0 in a hex that is NOT the one with the KV or your PZ in it. The KV on Level 2 in N32 could see your Pz except the LOS hits (barely) the forest symbol in J33 which creates a blind hex.

Good moves on your part, I think...
899 4/24/2017 6:11:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Tank/F36 backs up -> F35, pivots facing G36
Tank/J34 backs up -> I34 facing J34

End of Order
898 4/24/2017 6:08:00 PM Turn 11 German Edit Initiative Russian: from 0 to 8
German: from 2 to 0
897 4/24/2017 6:08:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Order Cube - 8
Order - Advance
Activate tanks in F36, J34 --- 2 IPs
896 4/24/2017 6:01:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message KV-1 in N31 faces N32 and moves into N32 facing N33.

End of order. Over to you.
895 4/24/2017 6:00:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message KV-1 in M32 along with MCM takes the one free facing first to face M33 and moves into M33 facing M34.
894 4/24/2017 5:59:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message RifPlt N33 to O34
RifPlt N32 to N33
MaximMG Plt O32 to N32
SMGPlts (both) N30 to M31
893 4/24/2017 5:57:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Edit Initiative Russian: from 4 to 0
German: from 0 to 2
892 4/24/2017 5:56:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Russian Order

6-Cube
Advance Order
Activate all units within 2 hex range of MCM in M32.
891 4/24/2017 5:55:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Wishful thinking on my part!
890 4/24/2017 5:54:00 PM Turn 11 German Message The Fate card is glued to my table, and I have no plan to use it…until absolutely necessary.
889 4/24/2017 5:52:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Fate Card?
888 4/24/2017 5:51:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Another failure.
End of Order.
887 4/24/2017 5:50:00 PM Turn 11 German Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 1

5


Message from German:
Pz Ii sights hex N32 for targeting.
accuracy +6
886 4/24/2017 5:46:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message No Counter Battery, alas...
885 4/24/2017 5:43:00 PM Turn 11 German Edit Initiative Russian: from 0 to 4
German: from 2 to 0
884 4/24/2017 5:43:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Okay - got it.

Order Cube - 6
Order - Asset
I play card # 4
Counter-battery fire?
883 4/24/2017 5:41:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message So the KV-1s are one behind the other in M32 and N31.
882 4/24/2017 5:39:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I meant to type M32 for the final hex, facing L32. You are correct, these slow KV-1s have a hard time getting around (cue the Beach Boys, I Get Around).
881 4/24/2017 5:36:00 PM Turn 11 German Message re: KV -1 move
It costs 2x3MP to go uphill N31-N32…it should cost 7 total.
yes?
880 4/24/2017 5:36:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Barring a retroactive OpF, end of order. Over to you.
879 4/24/2017 5:35:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message KV-1 in R28 moves to N31, facing M32 and finishes move.

Two SMGPlt in R28 move R29-Q30-O31-N30 and hide in the woods.

Your PzIVF1 in J34 might have an OpF at this last hex but again it's a question of the LOS going over the crestline symbol in K34. Now that I look closely I think that it does for this as well as the KV-1 in M32 but if you feel otherwise I accede to your judgement.
878 4/24/2017 5:32:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Whether you take an OpF or not, that KV-1 is finished with move, facing L32.

RifPlt in P31 moves to N32 via trenchline so no OpF and finishes move there.


877 4/24/2017 5:26:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message KV-1 in R30 takes MCM with it and moves to N32 (5MP). In this hex your PZIVF1 in J34 might be able to see it and can take an OpF if it can, down 1 die type due to turret having to turn. Stretch a string from J34 center dot to N32 center dot and you will see that it may or may not cross the crest symbol in K34 near and on the stream but I'm not sure. This being a crest in a different hex would block if it does cross. I'll let you call it.
876 4/24/2017 5:20:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I will continue my move and if you wish to back up and take the shots that will work.

MaximMG Plt moves to P31 (4MP) and then O32. No OpF possible.
875 4/24/2017 5:18:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Well, I have to profess that I do not grok the LOS up-and-down hills.

Anyway, keep moving…I'd probably just spend myself if I fire.
874 4/24/2017 5:15:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Let's see if I can explain the crest/LOS rule a bit better? If the LOS crosses a crest line (not hex, but actual depiction on the board) that is not part of the looker's hex or the target hex, then it is blocked. The LOS is NOT blocked crossing a crest symbol if it IS part of the looker's hex or the target's hex.
873 4/24/2017 5:11:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message The RifPlt will finish its move by going one hex to N33. This cannot be OpF'ed upon as it is moving trenchwise per the scenario special rule.

I'll let you reconsider on your OpF in the previous hex and wait a minute to continue move.
872 4/24/2017 5:09:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Your tanks in J34 (level 1) and infantry in J33 (level 0) can see the RiflePlt which is now sitting on the edge of a layer or crest (level 2). I know it's kinda strange but the LOS goes up hill (and downhill) from these positions. If the LOS crossed another hex at level 2 (same level as the RiflePlt) then it would be blocked. And now that I look at it I think your tanks in G34 and MG in F33 can see them as well.
871 4/24/2017 5:06:00 PM Turn 11 German Message So…no OpFire.
Continue with your movement.
870 4/24/2017 5:01:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Can I see P33?
To me, I can't see Chuck Connors and the Riflemen until they get to the edge/crest line of Level 2.
869 4/24/2017 4:53:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message RifPlt R32 moves to P33 then jumps into trench in O34. You can OpF at this since so will pause for your reaction.
868 4/24/2017 4:50:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Edit Initiative Russian: from 2 to 0
German: from 0 to 2
867 4/24/2017 4:49:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Russian Order

4-cube
Move Order
Activate all units within command radius 2 of R30 to move.
866 4/24/2017 4:49:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Ooops. Message crossed so too late. Yes, I meant the HS-129. The reason I don't think that plane is an ME-110 is I don't see the vertical tails on each end of the horizontal tail surface. Maybe its just the angle.
865 4/24/2017 4:47:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I do think that you can choose the target in P31 but it is possible for you to "harm" the trenches so in a way they are a target as well. I'll give the pilots the benefit of the doubt that they can see the empty trenches versus the one just a few meters away with Russian infantry in it.

864 4/24/2017 4:46:00 PM Turn 11 German Message End of Order - over to you.
863 4/24/2017 4:46:00 PM Turn 11 German Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

14
3


Message from German:
And…there on the Barrage table is a column for Entrenchments, so I guess we have to attack it.
2nd wave attacking O32, needing 32
862 4/24/2017 4:44:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Trenches are Cover, so my position (naturally) is that you can't target them…thus, P31 should be the target.
861 4/24/2017 4:43:00 PM Turn 11 German Message You mean the HS-129.
Awesome plane -- to me, it's the WW2 version of the A-10.
In Panzer General III, the HS-129 are wonderful T-34 killers.
860 4/24/2017 4:42:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Interesting rules question. Do you have to go after the trenches or can you "adjust" to P31?
859 4/24/2017 4:40:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I guess it could be an ME-110 but I think it could be the later ground attack plane that was supposed to replace the Stuka.
858 4/24/2017 4:39:00 PM Turn 11 German Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 1

17


Message from German:
2nd wave accuracy roll against P31.
857 4/24/2017 4:38:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Well, that seems to have failed.

2nd wave coming.
856 4/24/2017 4:38:00 PM Turn 11 German Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 2

2
4


Message from German:
accuracy - O31.
Let's go after a KV-1. Bombs fall on R30
needing 30.
855 4/24/2017 4:31:00 PM Turn 11 German Die roll request Request: 20-sided die x 1

14


Message from German:
(targeting by Pz II) --
1st wave accuracy roll
854 4/24/2017 4:19:00 PM Turn 11 German Edit Initiative Russian: from 0 to 2
German: from 2 to 0
853 4/24/2017 4:19:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Order Cube - 4
Order - Asset
I play card # 13. Based upon the card's picture, I guess it's ME-110 attacking.
Target hex - P31.
852 4/24/2017 4:17:00 PM Turn 11 German Edit Initiative Russian: from 0 to 0
German: from 6 to 2
851 4/24/2017 4:16:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message I'm finishing up lunch. Will make my move shortly. I'm up in the air as to what to do also if that helps!
850 4/24/2017 4:13:00 PM Turn 11 German Message Order Cube - 3
Order - Move
Activate Pz II --- 1 IP.

Pz II -> backwards 3 spaces -> E32 pivots to face F32.

End of Order
849 4/24/2017 4:09:00 PM Turn 11 German Message I finally noticed last week that my F1's have HEAT rounds.

It took me longer than expected to get an idea of what to do. I don't want to up IPs and give your KV1's free rein to run around. I don't want to sit and defend, but I don't want to charge uphill.
What to do, what to do.
848 4/21/2017 6:18:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Interesting note - the KV-1B's do not have the "R" symbol meaning they DO have radios and activate at normal IP costs as the German tanks!!
847 4/21/2017 6:12:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message See you here Monday Herr Oberst!
846 4/21/2017 6:11:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 5

9
4
4
6
9


Message from Russian:
Seed the matrix.
845 4/21/2017 6:10:00 PM Turn 11 Russian Message Reinforcements placed as follows on south edge of the map:

KV-1B Sqd in R28 facing R29
KV-1B Sqd in R30 facing Q30
MCM in R30
SMG Platoon in R28
SMG Platoon in R28
MaximMG Plt in R32
Rifle Plt in R32

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