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97 4/26/2018 4:41:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Rumor has it... that I do not see your logfile, Brendan. There is a small mix up with file numbers... but the last is from 8am or so.
96 4/26/2018 1:05:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message Another Rumour surfaces in Boeotia...over to Raider Ryszard.
95 4/26/2018 11:52:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Rumor in Boeotia.

Brendan is up next.
94 4/26/2018 8:25:00 AM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message Sorry chaps -- Rumours in Chalcidice - Brian next
93 4/26/2018 1:56:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Henry, I think weíre waiting on you to pick a Theatre Issue.
92 4/21/2018 1:40:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Athenians gossip in Chalcidice, over to Henry...
91 4/21/2018 1:11:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Demagogue League issue resolved in Thessalia.

There are no Spartan issues currently visible, so play skips to Ryszard.
90 4/21/2018 7:19:00 AM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message All mouth and no trousers in Boeotia. Brian next?
89 4/20/2018 5:05:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message I stand corrected. I will go to voluntary exile into corner for the next turn. You are right, it is Henry's turn...
88 4/20/2018 4:53:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I think the Henry (Eurypontids) is up next, isn't he?
87 4/20/2018 4:47:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Oh, Naupactus, nothing happens in Naupactus. Over to Brian.
86 4/20/2018 12:16:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message Apologies for my rules bungle. Military issue revealed in Boeotia....promptly cancelled for one Strategos. Over to Ryszard.
85 4/19/2018 6:03:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I revealed a Rumor issue in Boeotia.

Brendan is up next to reveal an issue.
84 4/19/2018 5:57:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message I stepped in and tried to correct the tracks (honor for all factions) and brought back the base and Athenian treachery. Sorry, Spartans, I know that you both are eager to pillage, destroy and prevail... but this is war, there are certain rules to observe :P
83 4/19/2018 10:05:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Oops! Yes, Brian, youíre absolutely correct. Sometimes my eagerness to deal my opponent(s) a blow in a game gets the better of an objective reading of a rule. Historically, it makes sense that the base can be sustained by the naval presence. Please adjust the Treachery, base and honor points in your next logfile. Thanks.
82 4/19/2018 9:31:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Hi Brendan,

I was looking through your last log file, and I think there were a few errors in how battle losses were applied.

The rules under 9.44 say the following:

If all military units on the losing Side are eliminated and the winning Side committed more Strategos tokens, the winning Side can apply remaining losses to eliminate Enemy bases.

The key phrase in the rule is "military units", which includes both land and naval units. In other words, in order to eliminate a base, all land and naval units must first be eliminated. In the case of this battle, our land units were eliminated, but we still have a naval unit in Boeotia, so the base cannot be eliminated.

This has follow-on consequences because it means that the Treachery marker is not removed, and of course the Honor awards and losses change.

I can make the necessary adjustments in my next log file, but I won't be able to get to that until later today. Or if you want to make the adjustments, that's fine as well.
81 4/19/2018 7:16:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message A minor and victorious battle resolved in Boeotia. Shame on the Imperialist Athens for abandoning their subjects in Plataea. Now all of Greece can see they should free themselves from their shackles of slavery!
80 4/18/2018 9:53:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I have revealed the Athenian strategos commitment, which is zero. We feel this should be more than adequate to deal with the Spartan rabble. :-)

Back to Brendan.
79 4/18/2018 6:03:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Spartan Strategos and military units moved to Boeotia. Over to Brian.
78 4/17/2018 4:10:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I conferred with my Aristocrat compatriot, and have entered our strategos commitment in a delayed note.

Back to Brendan to reveal the Spartan commitment, and move units.
77 4/17/2018 12:30:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message Iíve entered the Strategos commitment for the second battle in Boeotia. Over to Brian for Athens commitment.
76 4/16/2018 12:01:00 PM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message The battle in Beotia continues. Brendan to resolve a Military Issue.
75 4/15/2018 11:32:00 AM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message The battle in Boeotia is over. I took the liberty of flipping a card for Sparta. I hope that this is alright. The campaign consisted really only of the land battle. If it has been resolved properly, it will be Henry's turn now.
74 4/15/2018 5:17:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Spartaís response to Athenian arrogance has been revealed. Over to Ryszard to resolve the battle.
73 4/14/2018 11:56:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Aristocrats reveal their intellectual lows. They sent a galley squadron... to Aetolia, while hoplites from Chios and Athenian galleys arrive safely to Boeotia. Athenian Tokens are revealed aside Boeotia theatre... How Spartans react to such effrontery???
72 4/13/2018 2:04:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I think Henry was saying that he didn't see a delayed note from Athens, but that was intentional. Neither Ryszard nor I have entered a delayed note with our strategos commitment.

Just as a reminder of how I think battles should be resolved, here is the general sequence:

1. After the military issue has been revealed, and a battle has been declared, both sides should confer via private e-mail to decide how many strategos each faction is going to commit.

2. The controlling faction for the defending side (Brendan, in this case) enters a delayed note indicating the strategos commitment for both defending factions (as Brendan has just done).

3. The commanding general for the attacking side (Ryszard, in this case), can now simply state how many strategos are being committed by both attacking factions, and then moves units accordingly. He can then discard the number of strategos he committed.

4. The controlling faction for the defending side can now reveal the delayed note showing the strategos commitment for both factions. He can also discard the number of strategos he committed.

5. The commanding general can now resolve the battle.

6. The other players may have to discard the strategos they committed the next time they save a log file.
71 4/13/2018 12:55:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message As Henry has said, his delayed Strategos commitment does not appear in the module. But as we have agreed our concerted effort, I have entered a delayed Strategos commitment for both Kings of Sparta.
70 4/13/2018 12:22:00 PM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message I hope I have made my Strategos commitment in a delayed note but can see no evidence of Athenian commitment.
69 4/12/2018 11:47:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message I declare a military campaign against Boeotia. I set aside tokens that I want to use for the operation. Once I will get a green light from Spartans and fellow Athenian, I intend to reveal Athenian total and proceed with movement. Sorry, my friends, we will have to endure a staggered resolution of this issue :P
68 4/12/2018 9:58:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Since there were no Spartan issues currently visible, I skipped over Henry's Eurypontids, and did my Demagogue turn.

Aristocrat Military issue revealed in Boeotia. Over to Ryszard to resolve.
67 4/11/2018 2:12:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Aristocrats reveal their dastardly plan in Sparta. They find some more aristocrats there and cajole each other into action! Frolicking together in a pristine, new, white base! Tracks updated because of a League issue.
66 4/11/2018 1:43:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message AK have been gossiping in Chalcidice. Over to Ryszard.
65 4/10/2018 6:42:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message DF League issue revealed in Chalcidice.

Brendan is up next.
64 4/10/2018 11:48:00 AM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message I only see Athenian issues on the board. Over to Brian I assume.
63 4/9/2018 7:57:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message It looks like Ryszard saved a file to Dropbox with the post-battle cleanup, but he didn't post a message on the ACTS forum, so you guys may not have noticed.

So, the skirmish in Sparta is now complete. It is now Henry's turn to reveal an issue. As a reminder, Henry also needs to discard one strategos token.
62 4/7/2018 5:43:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Spartan battle card revealed and a decisive but bloodless victory. We see no need to continue the struggle with a naval battle. Back to Ryszard.
61 4/6/2018 6:24:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message I hope that I have not done anything wrong. I must say that I really do have difficulty understanding how I can pace myself through PBeM combat resolution. In any case, probably nothing can change the outcome - Spartans are bound to win the land battle, no losses will be inflicted... and there is only a decision whether victorious Spartans would be interested in subsequent naval battle (that will flip another cart to ... another NA result).
60 4/6/2018 1:40:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message I have revealed Spartaís Strategos commitment and placed the AK commitment. Henry will need to place his Strategos in his next file but I think Ryszard can go ahead and resolve the battle.
59 4/6/2018 9:26:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I used the file that Ryszard had previously saved (i.e., the one where he revealed the Athenian strategos commitment, and moved units), and applied it to the file that Brendan saved (i.e, the one that entered a delayed note indicating Sparta's strategos commitment).

It seems to have worked, so I think Brendan can now reveal his delayed note, and then Ryszard can resolve the battle.

Back to Brendan.
58 4/4/2018 7:22:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message I have entered a delayed note in my latest logfile that records the EK and AK Factionsí Strategos commitment for the battle in Sparta. Over to Ryszard.
57 4/3/2018 8:47:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Apologise for the long pause: my relatives have just departed so Iím now active gaming wise. I will briefly consult with Henry about our Strategos commitment for the imminent battle in Sparta.
56 3/25/2018 9:08:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Brendan,

My recommendation would be to send Henry an e-mail with your strategos commitment, and then he can enter a delayed note indicating the strategos commitment for both you and him.

I'm going to be travelling from Wednesday, March 28 through Tuesday, April 3. So, I guess if you are not able to do the Athenian strategos commitment by Wednesday, we may as well just put the game on hold until everyone is back.
55 3/25/2018 6:48:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message My apologies for the lack of response. These last two days Iíve been traveling and the next week ahead has become more hectic than expected, with friends and then family coming to stay prior to and over the Easter weekend. It means Iíve got no time for my online gaming activities until after Easter Monday, 2nd April. I donít want to delay you further so, if you wish, proceed without my input. If so, let me know and I can let Henry know how many Strategos remain in the AK hand.
54 3/24/2018 3:42:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I removed Ryszard's file from Dropbox for now. After Brendan and Henry have made their strategos commitment, he can implement his war plans. :-)
53 3/24/2018 3:27:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Agh, I did not read the messages from Brian earlier. Last logfile from me, the one that ends with "athstrategos" is the file with Athenian commitment to military issue and resulting movement. Feel free to disregard, until the earlier problems will be resolved. Or procedure from Brian will be used in a proper order. Sorry for the trouble!
52 3/23/2018 9:21:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message My recommendation on how to handle the strategos commitment is as follows:

1. Brendan and Henry should confer with each other privately on how many strategos each of them will commit to the battle.

2. I have been conferring with Ryszard on how many strategos we should be committing to the battle as well.

3. As the controlling faction for Sparta, Brendan should enter a "delayed note" in VASSAL that indicates how many strategos the Agiad and Eurypontid factions will be committing to the battle.

4. Once Brendan has entered the commitment for Sparta, Ryszard can simply announce the strategos commitments for both the Aristocrat and Demagogue factions, and then move units accordingly.

5. Brendan can now reveal the delayed note that indicates the strategos commitment for Sparta.

6. Ryszard can now resolve the battle.
51 3/22/2018 10:32:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Hey guys,

I just thought I would mention that I don't see Brendan's last file (#1058) out in Dropbox. It skips from my file (#1057) to Henry's file (#1059).

Also, I noticed that in Henry's file (#1059), the Rumor issue that I revealed in Naupactus is back where it started, as if I never revealed it. I suspect that maybe Brendan didn't step through my file before starting his? Or something else went wrong.

Anyway, I can correct the Naupactus issue the next time I do my move, but I just thought I'd point that out for future reference.

50 3/22/2018 8:42:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message A military campaign against Sparta is being organized. Athenians need to decide how many tokens they will dedicate. Once all players will be clear on their contributions, I will reveal Athenian total and execute movement. A battle may follow later, if Athenian units will end up in Sparta theater.
49 3/22/2018 12:34:00 PM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message Will spend 2 Strategos to convert League to a City State base in Sicily and gain 2 Honour. Ryszard is next I think
48 3/22/2018 8:39:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message I picked an issue in Sicily. Itís for Henry to resolve so Henry is next.
47 3/22/2018 3:59:00 AM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message Sorry chaps 2 weeks away from the game --- I forgot we were using ACTs. Head hung in shame. Don't ostracise me please.
46 3/21/2018 2:24:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Henry revealed a Military issue in Corinth, but he sent the message via regular e-mail instead of posting in the ACTS message board (a wag of the finger at Henry for breaking the rules). :-)

45 3/21/2018 1:26:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message Did Henry did pick a Theatre Issue? If not, we are out of sequence. If he did, we are on course.
44 3/21/2018 11:15:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Rumor revealed in Naupactus.

Brendan is up.
43 3/20/2018 8:10:00 AM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Aristocrats consulted gods and swayed public opinion a little. Over to Henry.
42 3/20/2018 8:10:00 AM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Aristocrats consulted gods and swayed public opinion a little. Over to Henry.
41 3/20/2018 7:57:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message AK has built a base in Sicily. Over to Ryszard.
40 3/18/2018 7:04:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I revealed the first issue in Athens, and built some triremes.

Brendan is up.
39 3/14/2018 4:44:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message The last issue of mine has been placed. I am fine with pausing - either now, before we start resolving issues, or whenever commitment of Strategos from Sparta will be necessary.
38 3/14/2018 4:20:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I'm fine with pausing until Henry gets back, should we hit a point where his decision and/or strategos are required.
37 3/14/2018 1:26:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message The final Spartan Theatre Issue has just been placed. I think Henry is back from his holiday on 19th/20th March. I would prefer to wait for him to join us before we start committing Strategos. So we may at least start picking Theatre issues when Ryszard has placed his Theatre issues. When we reach an issue where Spartan Strategos could be committed, I think weíll need to pause play.
36 3/13/2018 11:38:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message My final issue has been placed.

Brendan is up.
35 3/13/2018 6:38:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Athenian trespassers in Boeotia...We shall soon see. Over to Brian.
34 3/12/2018 4:52:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Bounce, bounce (hopefully not my checks), bounce to Sparta...
33 3/12/2018 6:42:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Boeotia bounces. Over to Ryszard.
32 3/11/2018 12:34:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Issue to Chalcidice.

Brendan (Agiad) is up.
31 3/11/2018 10:18:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Sparta has placed a Theatre Issue. Over to Brian.
30 3/9/2018 10:27:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Ryszard responds: This is (time for) Sparta :)
29 3/8/2018 5:02:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Spartan Issue placed in Boeotia. Over to Ryszard.
28 3/7/2018 6:35:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Issue placed in Athens.

Brendan is up.
27 3/7/2018 7:05:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Sparta has placed an issue in file 1040. Over to Brian.
26 3/6/2018 5:19:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message A half of the Athenian responds. Back to Sparta it is...
25 3/6/2018 6:54:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message And Sparta responds! Over to Ryszard.
24 3/5/2018 6:50:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Issue placed in Chalcidice.

Brendan is up.
23 3/5/2018 5:53:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message Apologies for the pause: I had a very busy weekend. Eurypontid Issue placed in file 1036. Over to Brian.
22 3/1/2018 6:48:00 PM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message I have also betted on Boeotia. Over to Henry, I presume.
21 3/1/2018 12:38:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message ak issue placed. Over to Ryszard.

Brendan
20 2/28/2018 8:17:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message First issue placed.

Brendan is up.
19 2/28/2018 1:36:00 AM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Took my counters, kept them separate. I think we are ready to slowly begin the placement phase. I shiver in anticipation...
18 2/26/2018 1:31:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message Hi Brian,

Yes, I was willing to do the log file merge but was seeking an Ďokí from you before going ahead. Thanks for doing it. Iíve followed your 1028 file with mine numbered 1029, having updated the AK Factionís Strategos and discarding cards from my hand. Over to Ryszard and Henry.
17 2/26/2018 9:27:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Hi Brendan,

I looked at the file you saved (1006-debate issues exchanged for theatre issues-henry and brendan.vsav), and it didn't seem to merge in the results of the Athens assembly, so I assume this was just showing the end results for Sparta.

I have saved a log file in the main "Pericles" folder named "1028-merged-results-next-anyone.vlog". Starting from the end of the Athens assembly, I merged in the results of Sparta's assembly.

For Brendan and Henry, please carefully review the log file to make sure I correctly transferred the results of your assembly.

Note that I cannot assign strategos for you, so Brendan and Henry will need to draw the appropriate number of strategos when they log their next file.

Once everyone has their issues and strategos in hand, I will place the first theater issue.
16 2/26/2018 6:29:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message As a follow up to my previous message, I checked again but found the only the option to be to use the auto function to exchange debate issues for theatre issues. As a safeguard, I did this in a separate save file.
15 2/26/2018 6:20:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message We played through the Spartan Boule and Assembly Phases in a live session today that took around 20 minutes. It was enjoyable and allowed us scope to correct a few problems when the Vassal module didnít function as expected, such as with drawing the appropriate number of Strategos. We finished up with the Strategy Board segment. I am willing to consolidate the Athenian and Spartan logfiles as per Brianís instructions, but have one question. Given our concerns about the moduleís bugs, we did not use the moduleís function to exchange debate issues for theatre issues. Is there a way to do this manually? I looked but couldnít find it.
14 2/25/2018 2:53:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message Athens has completed the Assembly phase, and the Political phase up through the Strategy Board segment (7.3).

We await word from Sparta that they are similarly ready to proceed.
13 2/18/2018 4:59:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message Thanks Brian for setting up the two folders and also suggesting the ďhiddenĒ Boule and Assembly Phases, which will uncertainty and tension. Iím willing to go with this.

Henry: Iím happy to do our Boule and Assembly in one live session. We could probably do it in 30 minutes or so. Let me know via email if youíve got some possible time slots this coming week.
12 2/17/2018 12:45:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I have created two folders in Dropbox: "T1 Spartan Assembly" and "T1 Athenian Assembly". Within each folder, I placed the file "1004-boule-start.vsav".

Each side can now proceed with their Boule and Assembly phases using this file as their starting point. You can complete these phases by exchanging log files, or by setting up a live session and getting it done all at once, or some combination of the two. Once both sides are done, I will merge the results, and we can continue from there.

It's kind of an honor system enforcement, but I think it might be more enjoyable for everyone if both sides refrain from looking at what the other side is choosing for issues, what issues are being won, how many strategos are being collected, etc., until you have completed the Assembly phase. It's not a requirement in the rules, but it adds a little extra uncertainty when you don't know what the other side is up to.

This is definitely optional. If anyone would rather not do this kind of "hidden" Boule/Assembly stuff, that's perfectly fine as well. Either way, it's time for each side to proceed separately.
11 2/17/2018 11:19:00 AM Turn 1 Aristocrat Message Entourage created, cards drawn. We can proceed to next phase, I believe.
10 2/15/2018 11:14:00 PM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message Over to Ryszard
9 2/12/2018 12:37:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message I have followed Brian with my file 1001. Over to Henry and Ryszard.
8 2/12/2018 8:29:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I have created the initial log file out in Dropbox, did the Aristophanes segment, drew my initial hand, and placed my entourage cards.

It doesn't matter who goes next, so anyone can draw their cards and place their entourage.
7 2/12/2018 8:19:00 AM Turn 1 Demagogue Message It sounds like everyone is on board with using the optional rules, so keep those in mind as we play.

I will get the initial file created.
6 2/12/2018 4:14:00 AM Turn 1 Agiad Message I too am willing to use the optional rule 14.43.
5 2/12/2018 3:27:00 AM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message I have no problem with the Optional Campaign rules.
4 2/11/2018 9:29:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message The scenario says under section 14.33, that we can optionally use the campaign rules under section 14.43. These rules do things like making any loses due to Plague permanent, etc.

I'm fine with using the optional rules, but the choice should be unanimous. It won't upset me if anyone would prefer not to use them.

I think once we decide on this, we can pull the first Aristophanes card, deal our hands, and get started with Boule and Assembly phases.
3 2/11/2018 2:25:00 PM Turn 1 Eurypontid Message No problem for me.
2 2/11/2018 1:40:00 PM Turn 1 Agiad Message I'm fine with being King of the Agiad Faction again.
1 2/11/2018 1:09:00 PM Turn 1 Demagogue Message I created the game on ACTS, and assigned players to factions. If you would prefer to have a different faction, let me know and I can switch it around.

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