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269 12/15/2018 12:29:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Message Your next play when you get back to computer
268 12/15/2018 12:29:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Message nicely done - we both lose 1 - your General is captured and I now only have 1 CU the Hasdrubal that moves into Cannae
267 12/15/2018 10:47:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Rome:
I dont have that one. here is the roll. Im out on a trip so I do not have the ladtop.
So Atrittion first
266 12/14/2018 7:20:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Play Battle card #43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
first play
265 12/14/2018 7:20:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Battle Hands dealt Battle 8

Carthage: 6 cards
Rome: 4 cards
264 12/14/2018 9:38:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Message No cards and Varro will remain there. You can play your first card
263 12/13/2018 6:58:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #28: 2 / Hannibal Charms Italy
(Carthage) If you play this as an OC to move Hannibal, you may remove each Roman non-walled PC in each space in Italy that Hannibal enters which does not contain any Roman CUs.

Message from Carthage:
Small H will now attempt to break out of the beachhead
and attack Varro in Cannae

I have no cards to play

I show it as Carthage 2 + 3 + 1 ally =6
I show it as Rome 1 + 1 + 2 ally = 4

Do you attempt to flee? If you try and fail you
lose a card.
262 12/13/2018 6:54:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Message You lose 3 for the Retreat and then we both lose 1 for attrition so you are down to 1 and retreat to Cannae and I have 2 and remain in my space

I will also adjust the map to reflect the loss
of loosing Rhone and Druentia
261 12/13/2018 9:51:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message >I understand but, Shouldn't be fairest that each roll sticks to what the purpose of the roll was? even if the order was not correct.If you do not agree, is ok.

No, you are correct - the statement of what is rolled is what is rolled - the +2 is still tacked on to the retreat roll not the attrition roll.

I'll get to my move tonight
260 12/13/2018 6:05:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message I'm off to work - yes, the General with low ability is very handicapped if going into attack about even.

Until your Big guy comes on mid game it can be hard
to fight unless you have 10CU or a lot of cards
259 12/13/2018 6:05:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Message I understand but, Shouldn't be fairest that each roll sticks to what the purpose of the roll was? even if the order was not correct.

If you do not agree, is ok. loosing Rhone and Druentia
258 12/13/2018 5:59:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message >First, 2 had 2 rounds of combat

Should read YOU had 2 rounds of combat
257 12/13/2018 5:59:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message okay a few things going on here.

First, 2 had 2 rounds of combat so your first roll was the attrition for both of us with roll of 1 on the 2 column is NO Loss for either side.

THEN your retreat roll with a +2 was a 6 making retreat a 7+ so you lose ALL your forces and General is captured.

Also, you now need to remove 2 (5 rounded down) PC from the board.
256 12/13/2018 5:56:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Message Late I begin to understand how battles work and the importance of high strategy generals :D
255 12/13/2018 5:52:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Message So I lose 3, you 1, and I retreat back to Cannae. Your turn.
254 12/13/2018 5:50:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Rome:
2 Cu's less and atrittion on second column...
253 12/13/2018 5:49:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
Oh my! retreat with +2
252 12/13/2018 5:45:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Play Battle card #39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
I'll play one back to you as I don't have to roll for CA
251 12/13/2018 5:45:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Play Battle card #40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
match
250 12/13/2018 5:42:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Play Battle card #41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
First round
249 12/13/2018 5:40:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Battle Hands dealt Battle 7

Carthage: 7 cards
Rome: 8 cards
248 12/13/2018 5:39:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message I get 1 ally for area Hannibal is in up north
247 12/13/2018 5:38:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Message Ok, so if I am not mistaken:

Rome: 5 CU's +1 B.ratting +2 allies =8?
Carthage: 3 CU's +3 B.Ratting = 6?
246 12/13/2018 5:31:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message answer to your question:

11.2 Enemy Controlled Ports
Control of a port is not necessary for embarkation or debarkation. Naval Movement is allowed into and
out of any port space, including a port that contains an enemy PC or CUs.


BUT

The retreat may not use Naval Movement. If the losing Army debarked in the
battle space that round, it is eliminated.



245 12/13/2018 5:30:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message I can not escape so we fight

I have no cards to play
244 12/13/2018 5:28:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #32: 1 / Numidian Allies Desert
(Both) Play at the start of any Combat in Africa. Your opponent does not receive any BC bonuses for control of either Western or Eastern Numidia.

Message from Rome:
Anyway, Varro moves to Croton, picking the CU there (now at 5) and then to Brundisium, battle or escaping?
243 12/13/2018 5:22:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Message Quick question (I am sorry I can't look in the rules now, which by the way are in some way confusing to me :D):

If I ocuppy a port space with some CUs, can you disembark there?
242 12/13/2018 5:13:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #48: 1 / Allied Auxiliaries (Campania)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if CAMPANIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:
flip Brundisium
241 12/12/2018 10:19:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Rome:
I lose 1 CU :(

Second siege
240 12/12/2018 10:18:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
First siege
239 12/12/2018 10:18:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #54: 2 / Treachery Within City
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to conduct a siege, you may roll twice on the Siege Table and use both results.

Message from Rome:
Lets see if I can conclude the siege
238 12/12/2018 6:10:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Message 2 CU remain behind with Gisgo
237 12/12/2018 6:09:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #50: 3 / Adriatic Pirates
(Carthage) If you use this card as an OC for Sea Movement and carry no more than 3 CUs plus a General, you do not have to roll on the Naval Combat Table if you embark or debark at either Brundisium, Croton or Tarentum

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal loses 1 now down to 6

Small H and 3 CU move to Brundisium
236 12/12/2018 6:05:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
Hannibal on the 7-9 table
235 12/11/2018 7:26:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #51: 2 / Epidemic
(Both) One opposing Army must roll on the Attrition Table.

Message from Rome:
For the event, lets see how Hannibal handles a cold... :D

You can roll!
234 12/10/2018 6:33:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #22: 1 / Mutin's Numidians
(Carthage) Place one Carthaginian CU and a PC in any non-walled city space in Sicilia that contains no Roman CUs. If the space contains a Roman PC the PC is simply flipped.

Message from Carthage:
Place CU in and flip Lilybaeum
233 12/10/2018 5:15:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #46: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Samnium)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if SAMNIUM is Roman controlled.

Message from Rome:
Event: 2 Cus in Falerii
232 12/9/2018 9:24:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage Message you may go first
231 12/9/2018 3:37:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome Message I won't campaign
230 12/9/2018 3:37:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome Draw Strategy cards 8 cards drawn.

229 12/7/2018 5:52:00 AM 215-214 BC Carthage Draw Strategy cards 8 cards drawn.

228 12/7/2018 5:52:00 AM 216 BC Carthage End Turn
227 12/7/2018 5:51:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message so with the ProConsul and Consul the Consul is in charge

A Consul may be placed with a Proconsul,
in which case the Proconsul becomes a subordinate (9.2).
226 12/7/2018 4:55:00 AM 216 BC Rome Message So P. Scipio in Falerii and Varro in Bruttium
225 12/7/2018 4:54:00 AM 216 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Rome:
P.Scipio and...
224 12/7/2018 4:54:00 AM 216 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 7-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
first consul
223 12/7/2018 4:53:00 AM 216 BC Rome Message 2 CUs less in Bruttium

1 CU in Bruttium and 4 CUs in Falerii

Marcellus as proconsul. Will roll now for the new two consuls

222 12/7/2018 4:50:00 AM 216 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Rome:
atittion
221 12/5/2018 5:27:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message End of turn

9 to 9 so no removals
You will have to do a attrition roll for the seige army on the5/6 column

I will place Gisgo back in New Carthage and bring 2 CU to New Carthage now at 5, 1 with Hannibal now at 7 and 1 with Hanno now at 7 also.

So do your attrition roll, then place your 5 CU army and then roll for your 2 new Consuls after picking your Pro-Consul

we can then share map and end the turn
220 12/5/2018 5:22:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message loss of 1
219 12/5/2018 5:22:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Carthage:
alps crossing
218 12/5/2018 5:22:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #60: 1 / Storms At Sea
(Both) Play after your opponent moves an Army or CUs using Sea Movement. The force suffers Attrition and the die roll must be modified by +2.

Message from Carthage:
Final play

Hannibal with 3 CU and Mago cross back over the ALPS
back to Boii

I'll now do Alps roll on the 3 column
217 12/5/2018 5:21:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #58: 1 / Cato Counsels Rome
(Carthage) Roman CUs are prohibited from moving to Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled. This does not affect Roman CUs already there.

Message from Carthage:
216 12/5/2018 5:21:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Return Strategy card to hand #58: 1 / Cato Counsels Rome

Message from Carthage:
215 12/5/2018 5:21:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message I changed my mind - I'll play the card as EVENT
and cause you not to be able to go to Africa until
deck is reshuffled
214 12/5/2018 5:20:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #58: 1 / Cato Counsels Rome
(Carthage) Roman CUs are prohibited from moving to Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled. This does not affect Roman CUs already there.

Message from Carthage:
Convert Druentia to Blue
213 12/5/2018 5:18:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #49: 1 / Opposing Fleet Breaks Siege
(Both) Remove all accrued siege points at any one port

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal alone moves to cross the Alps
(no roll needed) and then due to movement
(2 MP for crossing) he will remain in Druentia
212 12/5/2018 2:00:00 AM 216 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Rome:
siege
211 12/5/2018 2:00:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #12: 2 / African Reinforcements
(Carthage) Place one Elephant unit (at strength level 2) in Carthage. If an Elephant unit is not available, place two regular CUs in Carthage

Message from Rome:
for the siege at Bruttium
210 12/3/2018 6:29:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #34: 3 / Major Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY THREE GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
Mago moves up to Druentia

Hanno moves to Hippo Regius

Small H will move to Malaca, drop of 2 CU and
then move back to New Carthage

Of course if you want to stop any of these moves with a card please do so.
209 12/3/2018 6:06:00 AM 216 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:
subjugation against Bruttium
208 12/3/2018 6:05:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #5: 2 / Native Guide
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to move an Army, and the Army crosses a Mountain Pass, you may modify your Mountain Pass Attrition die roll by -3.

Message from Rome:
Longus with 7 CUs from REgium to Brutium

One siege attempt
207 11/30/2018 2:14:00 AM 216 BC Rome Message Im travelling until sunday, will make my move then since I do not have the computer, if you dont mind.
206 11/29/2018 5:41:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #44: 2 / Allied Auxiliaries (Apulia)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if APULIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:
Mago and 3 CU move to Narbo
205 11/28/2018 6:29:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #27: 2 / I have come into Italy ...
(Carthage) Play if Hannibal is in Italy. Convert two Roman non-walled PCs into Carthaginian PCs in any space in Italy which does not contain Roman CUs.

Message from Rome:
PCs in Druentia and Rhone
204 11/26/2018 9:42:00 PM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #15: 1 / Iberian Recruits
(Both) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in a friendly controlled province of Hispania.

Message from Carthage:
place 2 CU with Mago now at 3
203 11/26/2018 8:59:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #1: 3 / Corsica and Sardinia Revolt
(Both) If your opponent has control of Corsica/Sardinia, remove all his PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CUs.

Message from Rome:
1 CU in Falerii
202 11/26/2018 8:59:00 AM 216 BC Rome Give random Strategy card to Carthage Message from Rome:
201 11/26/2018 8:58:00 AM 216 BC Rome Give random Battle card to Carthage #8: Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
200 11/26/2018 6:23:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message NO map update sent
199 11/26/2018 6:23:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #55: 3 / Messenger Intercepted
(Both) Draw one Strategy Card from your opponent's hand and add it to your own.

Message from Carthage:
I'll now play this card to take one of your cards.
198 11/26/2018 6:21:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message You started with 8 in combat and 1 more in Mutina

You have to remove 4 CU due to battle loses so now down to 5 -
However, you retreat to Mutina (blue spot) and PU the 1 CU (now at 6) and lose one CU due to having to continue retreat (now at 5) - you move to Ariminum (can't retreat over the Alps) so that's another CU lost, you finally retreat into a red space but lose a final CU so you end up with just 3 CU left. - I mistakenly put you at 2
197 11/26/2018 6:16:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message IN addition - since you went thru some Blue spaces on
your retreat you suffer penalties thus causing even more Casualties:

15.3 Penalties on Retreats
A retreating force (Army or CUs) must lose one additional
CU for each space it enters that contains an enemy PC or
non-friendly tribe. A force retreating into a space containing
enemy CUs will lose an additional CU for each enemy CU
in the space. A retreating force may not remain in a space
with enemy CUs. Enemy Generals without CUs have no
affect on retreats and cannot block retreat paths. A force that
cannot retreat, has no place to retreat to, or must retreat more
than four spaces is eliminated.
196 11/26/2018 6:15:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message First of all - any CU encountered along the way are 'swept up' in the retreat and are dragged along with the other forces seeking a red space to end turn on.

15.1 Retreat Procedure
AAfter Battle Casualties and retreat table losses have been
removed, the loser of a battle must retreat his force and suffer
the political consequences of the defeat. The loser of the
battle must retreat to a space that is both friendly controlled
(contains a friendly PC) and clear of enemy CUs, or to a
space that contains more friendly CUs than the retreating
force. If you have more than one space that you may retreat
your force to, you must pick the closest one (if two or more
are equidistant, the retreating player may choose). You may
not leave behind any CUs or Generals as you retreat, and
any friendly CUs encountered along the retreat path (if they
do not outnumber the retreating CUs) are swept up in the
retreat and become part of the retreating force. The 10 CU
movement limit does not apply during retreats; any size force
(commanded by a General or not) defeated in battle must be
retreated.


195 11/26/2018 2:51:00 AM 216 BC Rome Message Ah I see, I should have changed control of those blue spaces before though. But I have 1 CU in Mutina and 1 CU in Ariminum, so If I retreat with 8 CUS, lossing 4, and marching through 2 blue spaces with 1 Roman CU each, I should be left with a total of 4 Roman CUs in Falerii right? (I see just 2 on the map)

I hope thats right. Will remove PCs in: Rhone, Druentia and Tolosa
194 11/24/2018 11:20:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message No Carthage loses
Roman loses 4

BUT, since you attacks from Mutina into Boii
and Mutina is blue the whole army needs to continue
retreating into Ariminum (and that also is blue) so needs to continue to Falerri or Fir.Pic.

You will also 'drag' the lone CU in Mutina with you
and thus will lose an additional 2 CU for total of 6
(out of the 9 you have in total) and thus need to remove 3 PC's
193 11/24/2018 11:17:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
5


Message from Carthage:
3 rounds of combat - 1st roll
Roman retreat - 2nd roll on 5+ column
192 11/24/2018 10:30:00 AM 216 BC Rome Message Im done!
191 11/24/2018 8:32:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Battle card #25 Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
190 11/23/2018 7:37:00 AM 216 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Rome:
Counter
189 11/23/2018 7:37:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Battle card #29 Flank Right

Message from Rome:
Match
188 11/23/2018 6:24:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Battle card #22 Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
187 11/23/2018 6:23:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
CA attempt
186 11/23/2018 6:23:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Battle card #31 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Carthage:
match
185 11/23/2018 2:07:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Battle card #32 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
Ok!
184 11/23/2018 2:06:00 AM 216 BC Rome Battle Hands dealt Battle 6

Carthage: 10 cards
Rome: 12 cards
183 11/22/2018 8:37:00 PM 216 BC Carthage Message On the Boii tribe I will make my stand.

Carthage card count 4 + 4BR + 1 tribe + 1 ally = 10
Roman 8 + 2 BR + 2 ally = 12
182 11/22/2018 2:55:00 PM 216 BC Rome Message And I leave 1 CU in Mutina
181 11/22/2018 2:53:00 PM 216 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Rome:
pursue!
180 11/22/2018 10:25:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message success - you can roll to attempt to try and chase me..

After a successful Avoid Battle, the active player may attempt
to continue moving (either to pursue or to move off in a
different direction). To determine if the attempt is successful,
roll the die. If the die roll is less than or equal to your
Generalís Battle Rating, your Army can continue to move. If
your General has already moved the four-space limit (or six
spaces if moving with a Force March card), or the die roll is
greater than his Battle Rating, then your Army must stop in
its current space. If your Army pursues the Army that avoided
battle, then your opponent can try to Avoid Battle again, and
you may attempt to pursue again. This can continue until
your opponent fails his Avoid Battle die roll or your General
has moved his limit.
179 11/22/2018 10:24:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Carthage:

178 11/22/2018 10:24:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message I will attempt to flee to the Tribal space
177 11/22/2018 8:27:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #19: 1 / Senate Dismisses Proconsul
(Both) If there is a Roman Proconsul on the map other than Scipio Africanus, it is removed and replaced with an unused Roman General. The player playing this card determines the replacement.

Message from Rome:
I am moving Paulus with 8 CUs to Mutina, leaveing 1 CU behind in Ariminum, staying?
176 11/22/2018 7:27:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #29: 2 / Carthaginian Naval Victory
(Carthage) For the rest of the year a -1 die roll modifier for naval movement applies, and Roman Naval Movement is limited to Minor or Major Campaign Strategy Cards.

Message from Carthage:
I'll play this card as event
175 11/22/2018 7:26:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message I lose 2 so remove Zama
I retreat back to Mutina

My turn
174 11/22/2018 7:24:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4


Message from Carthage:
Fail - can't match.

First roll on the 2 column
Second roll for me on the 5+ with a -2 modifier
173 11/22/2018 7:23:00 AM 216 BC Rome Play Battle card #35 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
172 11/22/2018 7:20:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Message nope
171 11/22/2018 7:20:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Carthage:
attempt to CA
170 11/22/2018 7:19:00 AM 216 BC Carthage Play Battle card #46 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
play as Probe

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