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120 6/30/2019 10:17:00 PM Master ID = 16136 Game Deleted
119 6/24/2019 9:36:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Message That's fine, Kevin. I will concede that it's always easier to miss things when you're playing on computer, as opposed to the godlike perspective that a gameboard on a table affords you!

118 6/24/2019 6:51:00 PM 1632-1633 Catholic Message I really try to like Vassal and playing by email but I have a terrible time with it. I don't seem to process the map very well on the computer. I'm motivated to play this game but just not in Vassal. Losing 2 leaders and the stack is beside this point, however. Thanks for the game but I'm afraid I'm not not all that fond of Vassal enough to try again.
117 6/22/2019 11:59:00 AM 1632-1633 Protestant Message I wouldn't be too hard on yourself on this one, Kevin. The opportunity for me only arose because of the loss of one step that Tilly's force suffered during the Pay/Looting phase -- prior to that, it was at 6 CFs and my force at Leipzig was at 22, which wouldn't have quite been enough for an Overrun. And once that happened, my move was up next at the beginning of the next turn, so you had no opportunity to take protective action.

As a practical matter, we would have to back up a couple of impulses to unwind the circumstances that created this opportunity for me. And that would take us back into the previous turn, which further complicates things.

So let me offer this as an alternative. We could call this game a wrap and start a new one. I've never actually played the "Intervention" scenario before (having always done the Campaign game), and there are certainly some things I think I would do differently in my moves to this point if given another opportunity.

The "Overrun" and "Lost Army" rules are definitely ones that should always be kept in mind in campaign planning in TYW. As this experience shows, they can be real game-changers.

116 6/22/2019 9:49:00 AM 1632-1633 Catholic Message Is this an unrecoverable newb-blunder by me?
115 6/20/2019 10:28:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Message I forgot that Pappenheim was also with that force, so he is killed as well.

114 6/20/2019 10:21:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Change Victory Points -3: from 42 to 39
113 6/20/2019 10:10:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 1 / Fog
No Leadership modifiers may be used in this combat.

Message from Protestant:
I'll use this to activate Gustavus at Leipzig, who will move with his subordinate leaders and entire force as follows:

MP 1: Pilsen; add P1, thus making this P2

MP 2: Nurnberg;

MP 3-4: Donauworth; convert it (-1 VP); place P1

MP 5-6: Ulm: Overrun combat against Tilly's force (22 CFs vs. 5 CFs). Tilly's 2 Mercs are destroyed, and he is killed in action and not replaced. Ulm converts (-1 VP), as does Wurttemberg (-2 VPs).
112 6/20/2019 5:58:00 PM 1632-1633 Catholic Message Yes, correct. I forgot to settle that.
111 6/20/2019 1:35:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Message Just to clarify: so I assume you're taking no action as to Wallenstein at this time, and we can move along to the Action Phase?

110 6/17/2019 8:42:00 PM 1632-1633 Catholic Message Right, OK. I missed/forgot about that in the scenario.
109 6/16/2019 10:38:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Message So Pillage markers removed by you in Bamberg, Ulm (1 level), and Mannheim.

As for Wallenstein, my reading of the rule (7.2) and the scenario Start instructions is that since Wallenstein begins this game dismissed, and you recalled him, then Rule 7.23 is the one that is now applicable. Thus, your only options at this point are to keep him or assassinate him (as did occur historically during the period covered by the "Intervention" scenario).

108 6/16/2019 9:26:00 AM 1632-1633 Catholic Message All my card ids are > 13 so no discards
107 6/16/2019 9:22:00 AM 1632-1633 Catholic Draw Strategy cards
106 6/16/2019 9:16:00 AM 1632-1633 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

7


Message from Catholic:
Just for clarity, you said I could assassinate Wallenstein but I also could dismiss him, correct?

Pillage roll
105 6/15/2019 9:14:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Draw Extra Strategy card Message from Protestant:
Drawing a replacement card.
104 6/15/2019 9:14:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Discard Strategy card Message from Protestant:
This card has already been played prior to the start of this scenario, so I will discard it and draw another.
103 6/15/2019 9:11:00 PM 1632-1633 Protestant Draw Strategy cards
102 6/15/2019 9:11:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant End Turn
101 6/15/2019 9:10:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Discard Strategy card Message from Protestant:
I'm discarding this one.
100 6/15/2019 9:09:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message OMG.

I'll remove the P1 from Berlin. Might as well help out an ally.

99 6/15/2019 9:00:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

1


Message from Protestant:
Protestant Pillage recovery roll.


98 6/15/2019 9:00:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message I just sent the file. However, I neglected to flip the Elector control marker for Saxony, so I'll do that (if I remember!) when I complete my first impulse file for Turn 7.

So we now commence Turn 7. You have the option to assassinate Wallenstein, if you wish. In the meantime, I will go ahead and do my Pillage Recovery roll and will draw my cards.

97 6/15/2019 8:29:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message I'm still holding two cards (because I used a Free Move). I will retain one, and discard the other. Please advise what you will do with your extra card.

I will generate a move file reflecting where things stood at the end of Turn 6. And the game is one-third complete.

96 6/15/2019 8:27:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Change Victory Points -3: from 45 to 42
95 6/15/2019 8:26:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message Leipzig falls. That's some compensation for the lousy Loot roll at Frankfurt.

With the capture of Leipzig, the Protestants noiw control 3 cities in Saxony, and control of Saxony and its Electorate marker switches to the Protestants. -3 VP, which now stands at 42: still a very healthy total for the Catholics.

94 6/15/2019 8:19:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

6


Message from Protestant:
Siege Roll at Leipzig:


93 6/15/2019 8:15:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message That brings us to the continuing siege phase. The only remaining siege on the board is that at Leipzig.



92 6/15/2019 8:14:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message That's very bad news for Horn. The 7 gets raised to an 8 due to the DRM. That's Pillage 2 and 1 step loss, except that because there's already a P1 in the space, it becomes a P2 and 2-step loss, which is sufficient to eliminate the (merc) and cause a 1-step loss on the Veteran: which reduces its combat value to a 3 and thus breaks the siege, because Frankfurt's siege value is a 4.

Tilly is in better shape because there is no P1 marker in Ulm. One of his Merc units loses a step.


91 6/15/2019 8:07:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 3

7
9
2


Message from Protestant:
Rolling on the Loot Table:

Horn (Frankfurt): +1 DRM

Tilly (Ulm): No DRM

Werth (Mannheim): +1 DRM

90 6/15/2019 8:05:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message Next up: Pay Phase.

The Protestants have 14 Foreign Aid Points (FAPs). That is enough to completely pay Gustavus's army on the siege lines at Leipzig (11 FAPs), and also Bernard's force at Stralsund (3 FAPs). Horn's force at Frankfurt is unpaid and will have to roll on the Loot Table. It will have a +1 DRM because of the P1 pillage marker.

Wallenstein's and Aldringer's armies are locally paid, as are the Spanish units at Brussels.

Tilly (at Ulm) must roll. There's no DRM because the +1 for majority of Mercs (all, in this case) is cancelled out by the -1 for Tilly's Dynamic leader status.

Likewise, Werth must roll at Mannheim. That's a -1 DRM because of the majority (actually, entirety) of Mercs.


89 6/15/2019 7:58:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message And Aldringer's roll of 4 is good enough to add one full-strength Bavarian Mil unit to his stack in Munchen.

And that brings us to the end of the Action Phase for Turn 6, as the year 1631 winds down to a close.


88 6/11/2019 8:29:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message Wallenstein raised 1 full and 1/2 so increase his track by 2
87 6/11/2019 8:26:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

4


Message from Catholic:
3 Merc steps for Wallenstein
Aldringer next
86 6/11/2019 8:23:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

8
1


Message from Catholic:
Wallenstein +2
85 6/11/2019 8:22:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Play Strategy card as Recruitment #21: 3 / Swedish/Danish Conflict
Sweden Enters War and Denmark Enters War must have been played. Remove King Christian and all Danish units from the game.

Message from Catholic:
Wallenstein Recruit 2x Merc
Aldringer 1 Militia
84 6/9/2019 10:29:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #14: 2 / Peasant Revolt in Bavaria
Choose any city in Bavaria except Munich and place a Revolt marker in that city.

Message from Protestant:
I'll use this to activate Gustavus, who will move with Baner, Horn and the 6x4 Sw Vets & 1 (Merc) from Stettin as follows:

MP 1: Barwalde; place P1 (now P2)

MP 2: Frankfurt an der Oder; drop Horn, 1 Sw Vet & 1 (Merc); place siege counter

MP 3: continue with all other units to Cottbus

MP 4: Gorlitz; place P1

MP 5: Dresden; pick up 1 Mil

MP 6: Leipzig; assume you will retreat inside the walls; place siege marker.
83 6/5/2019 8:44:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #16: 2 / Marie of Spain Marries Ferdinand III
+2 to Spanish Aid Point totals

Message from Catholic:
Activate Tilly and his stack.
1MP Mannheim dropoff 3 units and 2 leaders.
3MP Tilly Pappenheim, 2 Bavarian Mercenary to Stuttgart
5MP Tilly, Pappenheim, 2 Bavarian Mercenary to Donauworth
6 Tilly, Pappenheim, 2 Bavarian Mercenary to Ulm

Wurttemberg neutrality violated. P's get 1 VP and C's control Wurttemberg for 2. Net 1 VP to C's
1 Pillage in Mannheim
82 6/4/2019 11:11:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message More correctly known as a "Free Action." See Rule 8.32 at page 10 in the Rulebook. It allows you to move one lone unit or one friendly leader (alone, without troops) without having to play a card. It isn't employed often, but occasionally has its uses.

81 6/4/2019 2:29:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message What's a free move?
80 6/2/2019 11:53:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message I'll take a Free Move. The Militia unit in Magdeburg will move as follows:

MP 1: Cottbus
MP 2-3: Gorlitz, convert
MP 4-5: Dresden, convert

79 6/1/2019 8:28:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Play Strategy card as Event #15: 2 / New Leaders
Deploy Werth and Goetz with any Bavarian units.

Message from Catholic:
Both added to Tilly's stack
78 5/30/2019 11:48:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Play Strategy card as Foreign Aid #37: 2 / Plague in Bavaria
Unless discarded, Event always takes effect. If a Pillage marker or an army is in Bavaria, increase the Pillage level of one city in Bavaria by one. This may not be played on Munich.

Message from Protestant:
I'll play this for Foreign Aid. All three aid sources are applicable at this point, so that's 14 Foreign Aid Points (FAPs) for the Protestants.
77 5/29/2019 11:42:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message Kevin, in small type underneath the Recruiting Table, it indicates that the numbers refer to number of steps, not the number of units (I can remember having this misconception when I started as well).

Thus, Aldringer actually recruited 2 Militia steps on his first roll and 1 on his second. You can get a f/s Militia (2-2-5) and an u/s 1-2-5, or you could choose three 1-2-5s (not sure why you would ever do that, though).

As for Tilly, he was unsuccessful. You indicated he was rolling for Mercs, and on a modified die roll of 3, that's a zero.

I'll make the adjustments in my move file, so no need to worry about sending another.


76 5/29/2019 6:46:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message Just 1
75 5/29/2019 6:45:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

2


Message from Catholic:
3 Militia
Next Tilly Mercenaries. He's +1
74 5/29/2019 6:43:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

5
3


Message from Catholic:
Aldringer Militia
73 5/29/2019 6:42:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Play Strategy card as Recruitment #25: 3 / Famine in Brunswick-Lunenberg or Brunswick-Koleberg
Unless discarded, Event always takes effect. If a Pillage marker or an army is in Brunswick-Lunenberg or Brunswick-Koleberg, increase the Pillage level of one city in Brunswick-Lunenberg or Brunswick-Koleberg by one.

Message from Catholic:
Recruit
Aldringer twice
Tilly
72 5/27/2019 11:26:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message Add 1 u/s (Merc) to Bernhard's force and to Gustavus's.
71 5/27/2019 11:24:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 3

5
6
2


Message from Protestant:
1 - Bernhard (Stralsund) - Mercs
2 - Gustavus (Stettin) - Mercs
3 - Gustavus - Mercs
70 5/27/2019 11:22:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Play Strategy card as Recruitment #23: 3 / Treaty of Heilbronn
Sack of Magdeburg and Sweden Enters War events must have been played previously. Protestant states form Heilbronn League, recognizing Swedish leadership. -3 VP's.

Message from Protestant:
I'll play this for recruitment.
69 5/27/2019 11:14:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message So, just about everything was handled properly there. You're right that you can control Hesse-Kassel without taking Hanau; conversely, converting H-K to Catholic doesn't affect Protestant control of Hanau.

The one thing that was mistaken is that H-K is only worth 2 VPs, not 3 -- it's the number in the red box that matters for VP purposes. So the VP total, which had been at 43 after I took control of Mecklenburg, goes back up to 45, not 46.

68 5/25/2019 6:46:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #36: 1 / French Huegnots Revolt
Richelieu Becomes Chief Minister of France event (P-9) must have been played previously. -4 to French Aid Point totals.

Message from Catholic:
Tilly in Hesse-Kassel and hit stack

1MP Kassel (Hesse-K) to Wetzlar
2MP Catholic Control in Wetzlar
3MP to Hanau
4MP to Frankfurt (ind)
5MP to Mainz (ind)
6MP Oppenheim (Lower Pal)
Pillage Level 2 in Wetzlar

I don't see anything about requiring to besiege Hanau to control Hesse-Kassel. Catholics have 3 spaces there now.
67 5/23/2019 11:57:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message And just to clarify: when changing control markers, you usually have to right click once to get to neutral, then right-click a second time to shift control to your side.
66 5/23/2019 11:48:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #12: 1 / Surprise Attack
+1 to Protestant combat die roll.

Message from Protestant:

I'll use this to activate Gustavus, who in turn will activate Baner, and then they will move as follows:

MP 1-2: Activate 3 Swedish Vets, move to Barwalde. Overrun and destroy the Imperial Merc in Barwalde. Flip control to Protestant. Place a P1 marker.

MP 3: Return with all units to Stettin; drop off the 3 Swedish Vets. Pick up the other 3 Swedish Vets, then proceed as follows:

MP 4: Demmin.

MP 5-6: Move to Wittstock. Overrun and destroy the Imperial Merc in Wittstock. Flip control to Protestant. Place a P1 marker.

MP 7 (for the leaders; it's MP 4 for these Vets): Move back to Demmin.

MP 8: Return all units to Stettin.

The Protestants now control 2 of 3 spaces in Mecklenburg, which is enough to switch control of that province. The Catholic VP total declines from 45 to 43.
65 5/23/2019 11:25:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Draw Extra Strategy card Message from Protestant:
Also, I just noticed that I am a card short: I only have 5 left in my hand at present, and there should be 6. So I will draw one more (and hopefully won't get one that's already been played).

64 5/23/2019 11:23:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message You managed to change the control markers, but it looks like you've got a yellow circle somehow overlaid over the original blue one. Here's the standard way to do it:

- Shift + left click on the space; that will put a square box around the space.
- Right click on it: that will bring up a menu of options.
- Click on "Change Control." You're done.

Everything else seemed to go fine with your last move file.

63 5/22/2019 9:02:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #14: 2 / Mutiny
Choose any one Protestant army that includes Mercenary and/or Militia units. Roll on the Loot Table for this army.

Message from Catholic:
Activate Tilly and his stack.
1MP Bamberg (Upper P) to Lutzen (Saxony)
2MP Lutzen (Saxony) to Fulda (Hesse-K)
3MP control Fulda
4MP Fulda (Hesse-K) to Kassel (Hesse-K)
5MP Overrun Kassel

Add 2 Pillage to Kassel

File to follow
62 5/21/2019 11:38:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #36: 2 / Famine in Moravia or Silesia
Unless discarded, Event always takes effect. If a Pillage marker or an army is in Moravia or Silesia, increase the Pillage level of one city in Moravia or Silesia by one.

Message from Protestant:
I'll use this to activate Gustavus, who in turn will activate all three of the leaders with him and all six of the 6 Swedish Vets in Stettin. They will then move as follows:

MP 1: Stralsund.

MPs 2-3: Rostock. Overrun and destroy Savelli's force (Rule 12.6; 4-1 odds). Both Imperial Mercs are destroyed and Savelli's counter is removed from play. Rostock converts to Protestant control. Place a P2 marker on Rostock.

MP 4: The entire Swedish force marches back to Stralsund, and drops Bernard of Saxe-Weimar there.

MP 5: Gustavus, the other two leaders, and the rest of the Swedish force returns to Stettin.

Move file will follow.
61 5/21/2019 2:03:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message 3 Steps
Olmutz
Bruun
Budweis
File to follow
60 5/21/2019 2:01:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

6


Message from Catholic:
Remove pillage
59 5/20/2019 9:45:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message Now that I'm back from vacation, I'm comfortable saying every other day on average. I do often have to work late nights and weekends, but the next couple of months doesn't look too bad at present.
58 5/20/2019 5:25:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message Are you able to commit to a file a day or every other day?
57 5/15/2019 10:17:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message That allows me to remove two levels of Pillage. So I'll remove 1 level from the P2 at Stettin and will remove the P1 from Stralsund.

You're up next. Rather than exchange move files, I suggest we just update our own game maps.

56 5/15/2019 10:13:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

4


Message from Protestant:
The next phase is the Pillage Recovery Phase, wherein each player rolls a die to see how many pillage markers can be removed.


55 5/6/2019 5:00:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message Kevin,

My apologies for taking so long to respond. I departed on a two-week vacation to Portugal on Saturday, 4\27, from which I will be returning on Saturday, 5\11. Things were crazy getting work squared away the last ten days or so before I left. I will get a move out on 5\12 once the Mothers´ Day observances are done!

54 4/23/2019 3:33:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message I'll put Wallenstein in Vienna. I can do a file later if necessary.
53 4/22/2019 11:45:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message That vconcludes the placing of the Pillage markers. I will send you a move file refelcting that.

We are now ready to begin the turn. Phase A is the Wallenstein phase. Will you choose to recall Wallenstein?

52 4/21/2019 6:57:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message Stetting should be P2
51 4/21/2019 6:55:00 PM 1630-1631 Catholic Message Pillage Level 1 Stettin (Pomerania)
Pillage Level 1 Stralsund (Pomerania)
Pillage Level 1 Berlin (Brandenburg)
Pillage Level 1 Hanau (Hesse-K)
50 4/20/2019 11:02:00 AM 1630-1631 Protestant Message You're right that we probably should have played those cards as Events. We can do that going forward.

I'll place my next round of Pillage markers as follows:

P1 - Frankfurt (Brandenburg)
P1 - Bamberg (U.P.)
P1 - Budweis (Bohemia)
P1 - Pilsen (")
P1 - Jankow (")

49 4/20/2019 9:44:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Message OK all set with the cards
48 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
47 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
oof more
46 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
45 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
44 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
43 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
42 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
41 4/20/2019 9:43:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
40 4/20/2019 9:42:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
Maybe these should be played as events so they don't come back?
39 4/20/2019 9:42:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
Few more to discard after the redraws
38 4/20/2019 9:41:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
37 4/20/2019 9:41:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
36 4/20/2019 9:41:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card
35 4/20/2019 9:41:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Draw Extra Strategy card Message from Catholic:
Replacing discarded cards
34 4/20/2019 9:40:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
33 4/20/2019 9:40:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
32 4/20/2019 9:40:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
31 4/20/2019 9:40:00 AM 1630-1631 Catholic Discard Strategy card Message from Catholic:
30 4/19/2019 11:45:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message I'm there now.

29 4/19/2019 11:45:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Draw Extra Strategy card Message from Protestant:
Let's see if I can fill out my hand this time.
28 4/19/2019 11:44:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Discard Strategy card Message from Protestant:
One of the new cards I just drew is also on the "already played" list, so I'll discard it and replace it now.

27 4/19/2019 11:43:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message Draw New Card # 3.
26 4/19/2019 11:42:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Draw Extra Strategy card Message from Protestant:
Draw New Card # 2.
25 4/19/2019 11:42:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Draw Extra Strategy card Message from Protestant:
Draw New Card # 1.
24 4/19/2019 11:42:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Message I've discarded 3 of the cards I previously drew as they had already been played as Events, per the Sceanrio rules. I will therefore draw three replacments.

You should also discard and replace any of yours listed in the scenario rules, i.e., everything numbered C13 or lower.

23 4/19/2019 11:39:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Discard Strategy card Message from Protestant:
22 4/19/2019 11:39:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Discard Strategy card Message from Protestant:
21 4/19/2019 11:38:00 PM 1630-1631 Protestant Discard Strategy card Message from Protestant:

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