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294 5/21/2019 7:01:00 PM 211-210 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #16: 2 / Gallic Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Gallia Transalpinia or Cisalpinia

Message from Rome:
Varro and 9 to Rome, pu1 now 10, leaves 1, to Praeneste pu Paulus, to Sena drop Paulus and 5, back to Praeneste.

End: Varro and 13 Praeneste, Paulus and 5 Sena, 1 Rome (inside)
293 5/20/2019 1:01:00 PM 211-210 BC Carthage Message Seems like a gray area.
10.3 (of the 2nd Edition Rules) says that when an attacker enters a walled city space, the defender first declares whether his CUs in inside or outside the city. After that decision, he declares and resolves interceptions.

10.7 Says that if there are already forces besieging a city, and a relieving force attacks from outside, then the CU's inside the city can sortie and join the attack.

The question you ask is not explicitly covered under the above two rules.

I would say that purely by the letter of the rule book, the intercepting force only gets the benefit of the resident CUs if they were declared to be outside the city in 10.3 step 1.

It may seem odd, however, that the CUs in the city can help an attack but not a defense by other friendly forces. The best interpretation I can give of this is that perhaps the interception is understood to be at some distance from the city itself, unlike a relieving attack which is by definition proximate to the city.

However, the above interpretation seems like something that might have been made explicit if that was the designer's intent. It seems equally likely that this fine point flew under the radar of the designer. So if you want to consult a higher power for a ruling, that is fine by me.
292 5/20/2019 11:16:00 AM 211-210 BC Rome Message That is intercepted from outside Rome.
291 5/20/2019 11:15:00 AM 211-210 BC Rome Message If I had CUs inside Rome, and intercepted Hannibal in Rome, would the Rome CUs participate in the battle?
290 5/20/2019 10:49:00 AM 211-210 BC Carthage Message You may go first.
289 5/20/2019 10:43:00 AM 211-210 BC Carthage Draw Strategy cards 8 cards drawn.

288 5/20/2019 9:59:00 AM 211-210 BC Rome Message No Campaign
287 5/20/2019 9:58:00 AM 211-210 BC Rome Draw Strategy cards 8 cards drawn.

286 5/20/2019 9:58:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome End Turn Deck was reshuffled.

285 5/20/2019 9:58:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message Paulus and Varro at Praeneste.

2 Military Genius' take to the Battlefield!!!
284 5/20/2019 9:57:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 7-sided die x 2

6
7


Message from Rome:
Reroll 2nd if same.
283 5/20/2019 9:56:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message Scipio and 5 to Dertosa. 5 to Praeneste. Marcellus Proconsul.
282 5/20/2019 8:56:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Message Isolation removes Mutina.
I count the provinces at 9 each, but here comes Africanus.

Carthage Reinforcements
1 with Hannibal, now 6e1.
1 with Hanno and Mago in Thab, now 9 I believe.
2 with Hasbrubal in Segobria, now 12.
Gisgo joins Hasdrubal in Segobria.

Over to you for you reinforcements and deal of the next hand.
281 5/20/2019 8:49:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #24: 3 / Sophonsiba Seduces a Numidian Kin
(Carthage) Pick either Western or Eastern Numidia and place up to three Carthaginian PCs in that province in spaces which do not contain enemy CUs. If the space contains a Roman PC, the PC is simply flipped.

Message from Carthage:
Flip Ariminum and Falerii.
Add PC in Tup (W. Numidia).
280 5/20/2019 7:49:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message Nero wiped. Lose Theveste.
279 5/20/2019 7:47:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
2


Message from Rome:
Retreat/Attrition
278 5/20/2019 7:00:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
277 5/20/2019 6:59:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
Init roll.
276 5/20/2019 6:59:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #4 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
275 5/20/2019 6:46:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #9 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
274 5/20/2019 6:46:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
273 5/20/2019 6:23:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
272 5/20/2019 6:22:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Battle Hands dealt Battle 4

Carthage: 11 cards
Rome: 5 cards
271 5/20/2019 6:22:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Message Battle cards
Carthage: 6 + 4 Han + 1 ally = 11
Rome: 2 + 2 Nero + 2 ally - 1 elephant = 5
270 5/20/2019 6:18:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Carthage:
Elephant role.
269 5/19/2019 4:08:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Message No reaction: Nero and 2 stand. Carthage 12, Rome 6 cards I think, unless Elephants.
268 5/19/2019 8:48:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #52: 2 / Pestilence
(Both) One opposing Army currently besieging a city must roll on the Attrition Table with a +1 die roll modifier.

Message from Carthage:
Sorry. Hannibal and 5e1 to Falerii. 1 remains in Ariminum.
Reaction?
267 5/19/2019 4:19:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message You do know I have no cards left?
266 5/15/2019 12:58:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Message Yes, dice have been favourable, (Apollo didn't like your ships running down all those Dolphins).

Game can always turn on a favourable large battle, although noone likes to be forced to that sort of gamble.
265 5/15/2019 10:38:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Message I loved the casualty roles as soon as I saw them ... and then my heart sank when I saw that you had specified attrition second. Aye carumba!

I appreciate my close relationship with the Messenger, but the dice gods appear to have a very strong opinion about who should win this game. I think I need to consult the Oracle of Delphi (anachronistic though that may be) to see if there is any favorable path forward.


264 5/15/2019 2:34:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message Rome loses 5, Carthage 3 incl Elephant. (6,1E)

Nero and 2 retreat to Falerii.
Lose Tupsuctu, Arsa
263 5/15/2019 2:29:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6


Message from Rome:
That's me done.

Retreat/Attrition
262 5/14/2019 11:33:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #12 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
261 5/14/2019 11:31:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #47 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
Defend as DE.
260 5/14/2019 8:11:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Message As DE btw
259 5/14/2019 8:11:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #48 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Rome:
Just on the offchance!
258 5/14/2019 8:10:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
257 5/14/2019 7:41:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #45 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
Play as DE
256 5/14/2019 6:07:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Message To you
255 5/14/2019 6:06:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:
I believe still auto initiative

Attempt withdraw
254 5/14/2019 6:06:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
253 5/14/2019 1:10:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #37 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Carthage:
Play as DE.
252 5/14/2019 1:05:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Carthage:
Init roll.
251 5/14/2019 1:04:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #14 Flank Left

Message from Carthage:
250 5/14/2019 11:16:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #17 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
249 5/14/2019 11:15:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
Initiative
248 5/14/2019 11:15:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #9 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
247 5/14/2019 11:10:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #8 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
246 5/14/2019 11:08:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Carthage:
Init roll
245 5/14/2019 11:08:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #19 Flank Left

Message from Carthage:
244 5/14/2019 10:48:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #18 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
243 5/14/2019 10:48:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message Apparently a 2 sided dice!
242 5/14/2019 10:47:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Rome:
Initiative
241 5/14/2019 10:47:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #7 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
240 5/14/2019 10:21:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #3 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
239 5/14/2019 10:20:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Carthage:
Init roll.
238 5/14/2019 10:20:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #38 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Carthage:
Are you rolling a 1-sided die?
:-)
237 5/14/2019 10:06:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #36 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
236 5/14/2019 10:05:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
Inotiative
235 5/14/2019 10:05:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #6 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
234 5/14/2019 8:19:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #1 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
233 5/14/2019 8:14:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Battle Hands dealt Battle 3

Carthage: 15 cards
Rome: 10 cards
232 5/14/2019 8:14:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Message Elephants succeed. Cards are 15-10.
231 5/14/2019 8:12:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Carthage:
Sigh.
Elephant roll.
230 5/14/2019 4:28:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message Sorry, Hannibal 15 pos elephants
229 5/14/2019 4:24:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Message Rome 12, Hannibal 17 pos Elephants and pos back up.
228 5/14/2019 4:22:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
Nero and 5 react
227 5/13/2019 8:27:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #20: 1 / Spy in Enemy Camp
(Both) Play at the start of any combat. You may examine up to half of your opponent's Battle Cards. Cards must be drawn randomly.

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal 8e2 to Ariminun. Reaction?
226 5/11/2019 3:53:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #4: 3 / Celtiberia Revolts
(Both) If your opponent controls Celtiberia, remove all his PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CU's.

Message from Rome:
Flip Ariminum, Mutina, PC Thevestis.

Yes, dice so far have not been kind to you. (Except on the DE retreat earlier)
225 5/11/2019 1:05:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #21: 2 / Mercenaries Desert
(Rome) The Carthaginian player must use the Attrition Table for all his forces on the map not in friendly walled city spaces. Units with Generals are exempt if a separate die roll <= the General's Battle Rating.

Message from Carthage:
Flip Sena.
Place PC at Vescera.
224 5/11/2019 12:57:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Message No attrition.
Gisgo and his 5 CUs wiped out.

Remove Thabraca and Thevestis for political consequences.
223 5/11/2019 12:52:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
6


Message from Carthage:
No match.
1st die attrition on 3 column.
2nd die retreat on 5 column.
222 5/10/2019 11:21:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #28 Flank Right

Message from Rome:
221 5/10/2019 11:21:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
Initiative
220 5/10/2019 11:20:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #4 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
219 5/10/2019 10:35:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #8 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
218 5/10/2019 10:31:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Carthage:
Initiative?
217 5/10/2019 10:31:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Battle card #25 Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
216 5/10/2019 5:48:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Battle card #24 Flank Right

Message from Rome:
215 5/10/2019 5:48:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Battle Hands dealt Battle 2

Carthage: 6 cards
Rome: 9 cards
214 5/10/2019 4:28:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Set Deck Reshuffle Deck will be reshuffled before next deal
213 5/10/2019 4:22:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Message Correction. I guess Nero should be 9 cards. I forgot he left 2 CU in Ariminum.
212 5/10/2019 4:01:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Message Man, I may have a few good cards, but I think you have won all the die rolls. :-)

I count
Gisgo = 5 + 1 leader +1 allies -1 withdraw = 6
Nero = 7 + 2 leader +2 allies = 11
If you agree, deal 'em.
211 5/10/2019 3:57:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Carthage:
Gisgo and 5 will try to avoid to Boii.
210 5/7/2019 4:53:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Message Forget the P in front of Nero. Just Nero moving with 5 then 5+2 after Rome.
209 5/7/2019 4:52:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #64: 2 / Truce
(Both) Neither player may enter a space containing an enemy CU or PC while the Truce lasts. The Truce ends when either player uses a Strategy Card as an event.

Message from Rome:
Praeneste:P Nero and 5 to Rome, leaves 12 Publius Paraeneste, pu 2 from Rome (now 7) leaves 2 Rome, to Falerii, Ariminium if no intercept d 2 and on to Mutina with 5
208 5/7/2019 4:11:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Message Hannibal stops.
I believe the forces in Italy are now:
Hannibal and 8e2 in Sena.
Gisgo and 5 in Mutina (after two 2 CU event builds that had to occur in Cisalpinia).
207 5/7/2019 3:01:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Message Apologies for confused move. Yes, correct.

No intercept. Can you confirm Carthage forces in Italy please?
206 5/7/2019 2:54:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #59: 1 / Ally Deserts
(Both) Draw one BC from your opponent's hand and add it to your own.

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal and 8e2 edge forward to Sena. Reaction?
205 5/7/2019 2:53:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Message OK. I assume part of that campaign was Publius moving and not all Nero. But I understand now they are 17 CU and both consuls in Praeneste, and 4 CU alone in Rome (presumably inside the city).

That Messenger saw more than most, but the resources he brought back were crap. With all the CUs you have on the board and Africanus on the way, I think I needed more.
204 5/5/2019 12:10:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #39: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Rome:
Sorry, wrong card!!!
203 5/5/2019 12:09:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Return Strategy card to hand #64: 2 / Truce

Message from Rome:
202 5/5/2019 12:09:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #64: 2 / Truce
(Both) Neither player may enter a space containing an enemy CU or PC while the Truce lasts. The Truce ends when either player uses a Strategy Card as an event.

Message from Rome:
Nero and 5 to Praeneste, (leave 4 Rome) to Sena pu 2 back to Praeneste.
Assuming no interference Nero and 10 to Praeneste now 17
201 5/5/2019 12:02:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Give random Strategy card to Carthage Message from Rome:
200 5/5/2019 12:02:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome Message Not again!!!
199 5/5/2019 11:31:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #55: 3 / Messenger Intercepted
(Both) Draw one Strategy Card from your opponent's hand and add it to your own.

Message from Carthage:
198 5/5/2019 10:41:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #18: 2 / Traitor in Tarentum
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to siege Tarentum, it comes under your control without a Siege die roll. Enemy CUs inside are eliminated.

Message from Rome:
Nero and 8 to Rome, (now 9) leaves 11 Publius in Sena
197 5/5/2019 9:14:00 AM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #14: 2 / Ligurian Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Liguria, Cisalpinia or Etruria.

Message from Carthage:
2 more with Gisgo, now 5.
196 5/5/2019 3:59:00 AM 213-212 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #53: 1 / Tribal Resistance
(Both) Remove any accrued Subjugation Points in any one Tribe space.

Message from Rome:
PC Tupsuctu
195 5/4/2019 6:22:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #16: 2 / Gallic Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Gallia Transalpinia or Cisalpinia

Message from Carthage:
2 CU with Gisgo, now 3.

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