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105 4/25/2019 1:19:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I think the critical turn was when Shaun dropped Pretender and put the castra on Hispania instead of the Seat of Power. If you had made hispania the capital or put the castra on the seat of power I wouldn't have risked attacking as I didn't have a flank. Not sure Murray would have attacked you either as he seemed pretty obsessed with being Emperor and 3 on 3 with legions is a dreadful crapshoot, everyone is going to get hurt, and a castra probably would have sealed the deal there too.
104 4/25/2019 1:16:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Thanks everyone, was a much closer and more interesting game than last time.

Honestly thought I had dropped the ball on the last turn. I was relying on Shaun or Murray to take Thracia and got a bit carried away wanting to use Damnae Memoria (so close!) which would have meant a 10 point swing.

I get the feeling that all that bumbling around by Murray was on purpose to let someone else win one.

103 4/25/2019 6:53:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Final log uploaded and Michael wins by 3 Legacy.

Congratulations, sir, and well played.....and thanks all for a thrilling game (and Murray for the comic relief).

I had a poor hand but had one long shot on the dice of edging the game by 1 Legacy.....I drew a battle I needed to win and that was all that was in it. I had toyed with the idea of using my 2 Senate to remove my emperor (never used that action before) to prolong the game by 1 turn when I would have had a reshuffle and strongest military hand to pull maximum battle Legacy....but I expect Michael's would have been even stronger.....and besides, it would have been a piss weak play . Had to go for it.

Really keen to try the expansion now. It will have to be in person, though, unless we can work out a way to proxy the cards for Vassal play(I think that will be too clunky). Damian's played before (sort of) and maybe I can convince him to come down for another day in the Gong when you guys are free.

Possibly Pericles live Sunday evening. Did you want to think about another PBEM as well? Any ideas? Merchant of Venus is a good option and I can get Bart on board for 5 if you're interested.
102 4/25/2019 5:47:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Well turn done and uploaded.

I think, Barring some colossal mistake or bad dice Brent has this. I chickened out (I am playing the politician this time) on the power play at Rome as I only had 8 dice, needed 9 against a Qaestor.

Over to you sir, and well played.
101 4/25/2019 3:36:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Actually I didn't update my Emperor turns to 3 when the goth thing went down but Brent only remembered my goth mistake.

Initial, pretender and king priest.

So Brent's chance of top Emperor bonus is nil.

Unless neither crosses this turn, then things get REALLY interesting.
100 4/25/2019 3:30:00 AM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message well nothing to see here but I did double my legacy at least. My chance of winning really ended about three turns back - I have been throwing hail marys for a series of turns and didn't think the odds were in my favour and that is how it turned out. Well done to Brent or Michael depending on who comes out on top. I think Brent has the best chance to get the Emperor bonus and that may be the winning margin.
99 4/25/2019 3:20:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Welcome back Brent, how was the hike?
98 4/25/2019 3:09:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Italian support'a down 1 for Shaun'sa conquest of Pannonia....could you please fix that in your turn, Murray?
97 4/24/2019 11:32:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message That said Murray's turns are always highly anticipated, either for the impressive gamesmanship or the comedy value :)
96 4/24/2019 9:49:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Whatever you did (or do) will heavily dictate my turn.

Unfortunately I too am out, but I believe this is the last round, one way or another.
95 4/24/2019 9:36:00 PM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Some others looking strong at the moment. I don't think I have enough political stuff to make a difference.
Hope that we have a mad tumble in the last couple of turns and I can pull a bradbury.

Murray up.
94 4/24/2019 7:40:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message So excited about becoming Emperor I forgot to return Michael's fake Goths back to their homeland. Could you please do it in your turn, Shaun?
93 4/24/2019 7:40:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 36_Green logged and Shaun up.

A shiny new Emperor sit on the throne. Rejoice.

Sunday evening's good for me
92 4/24/2019 6:21:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I might be able to Free up Sunday evening - no doubt will be interruptions but something is better than nothing :)

And what was that about unwarranted vile military aggression? I distinctly recall someone "looking forward to marching his troops over the alps into Rome" that's pretty aggressive right there and you deserved what you got - PRETENDER!
91 4/24/2019 6:09:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message could you also put two Goths back in their homeland from Syria, I saw the 6 for movement (or maybe I was thinking Sassnids) and moved all 6 instead of the 4 I rolled.

If I picked it up earlier I could have been on 4 in SYria two possibly - but my bad so I'll live with it.
90 4/24/2019 5:59:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I don't know he's only just behind me now.

Syria back under control, Shaun's cousin wearing a silly hat was sent back to Hispania - I kept the hat as a souvenir. Rioters put back in place and generally order restored - well except for all the bloody Goths infesting that corner of the world - an Emperor's work is never done I suppose

I forgot to update emperor turns to 3, could you please do that in your turn Brent?
89 4/24/2019 8:09:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 1 Legacy....did you recount that to be sure?

It would be sad and tragic......if it wasn't so hilarious.

I might wrong but I suspect your run of ToC victories might possibly be coming to an end.
88 4/24/2019 7:44:00 AM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message another sucky turn which has again somehow managed to leave me weaker than I started. Also forgot to draw a hand again. Will add another file.
87 4/24/2019 7:04:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Turn taken. Recovering from vile military aggression that was totally unwarranted. Look to your backs my friends, I promise retribution in kind!

Murray up.

I am good for Sunday night if Mick can make it, if not let me know and I'll free up time. I've been put on dayshifts for 4 weeks so nights are good anytime.


86 4/24/2019 5:25:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Just received the latest GMT update and there's a new P500 from the designers of Time of Crisis. It's a card game set during the 3rd Century Crisis again. It's called The Barracks Emperors (no, not bollocks emperors, that's you sad toga stuffers). That's a common description of the blink-and-miss emperors of this period, generals who kept being put forward for the purple at sword point by their troops whenever they weren't happy with their pay, conditions, the weather......(one of the reasons for the crisis).

This probably is't one for me as it looks like it's a big shift away from wargaming and ToC covers the period already, but I'll keep an eye on it.

Link to GMT's game page is here

Just for interest's sake, I also own Wray Ferrel's first game design, Sword of Rome. It's about 15 years old now. It's a 4 player CDG (Card Driven Game)....a style of game where you choose between enacting events or operation points on the cards in your hand to drive all the game functions. The CDG mechanism was actually invented by Mark Herman, the designer of Pericles (Pericles isn't a CDG), in his American Revolution game, We the People. The basic mechanism was revolutionary (see what I did there?) and extremely popular and spawned an explosion of CDGs by other designers and companies. I have a few CDG's, mostly on topics that interest me (ancients and medieval)....one of my favourite games of all time is Hannibal: Rome v Carthage, a 2 player game on the Second Punic War, the second CDG ever designed and still one of the best, a real classic. I think Murray might be the only one who's played one, Twilight Struggle, which even then isn't a standard CDG.

Enough of a game history digression. I believe Sword of Rome was one of the first multiplayer CDGs. 4 players, with a variant for 5, which I've never tried, that adds in Carthage as a player power. It's about the little known period when Rome was fighting for control of the Italian peninsula, competing against local Italic tribes like the Samnites, Celts in Cisalpine Gaul across the Po, the Etruscans and the Greek colonies in southern Italy. It's a great irony that it took Rome over five centuries from the time of its foundation to expand out and control the Italian peninsula.....and then it established its Mediterranean empire in less than 50 years. I don't know of any other game that covers this early period of Roman history.

I've only played it a couple of times. Some of my friends really like it and some hate it.....mostly those who can't tolerate not having complete control. Game length is one reason it doesn't get played often....up to 8 hours. Still, I think it's a very good game, it's well regarded by a lot of ancients gamers and I will play it again some day. Too many other good games in the queue but maybe some time the we're at a loose end.

85 4/24/2019 3:45:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I'm starting to think that corner of the world just isn't worth the bother.

Most of the family and all the important folks moved out a while ago anyway, might just let the nutters have what's left.

And what's with all these pretentious twats coming out of the woodwork? I know I make being a good Emperor look easy, but it's actually difficult. Not as difficult as Murray made it look mind you, but no walk in the park.

Now all I need is for that imminent Sassnid invasion to materialize and my day will be complete.

Heavy is the head that wears the laurels and all that.
84 4/24/2019 3:10:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Right your are....

32_Green logged. Shaun the pretend Pretender up (I expected a hell of a lot more than that!).

I had a very quiet turn.....minding my own business, hosting games and getting some fresh air and exercise for my soldiers.

Interestingly you have a new visitor in Syria, Michael. Came along to see what all the noise was about. A bit happy clappy and not nearly as bonkable as Zenobia. I suspect he's planning to convert all of your family to his unorthodox and creepy religion, enrol them in his cult, marry your underage daughters and then take himself and them out in a mass suicide when the soldiers turn up. Gotta love a charismatic religious zealot/pervert. Sad for the emperor, we know, but it will be something to entertain the mobs and save you from having to hold games.
83 4/24/2019 2:25:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Support check first, then legacy, buy and trash then 6.8 end of turn phase for grow mobs and draw cards
82 4/24/2019 12:48:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message actually better yet make it a stadium - see what you could have had if you'd behaved yourselves, unwashed peasants!
81 4/24/2019 12:46:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message actually Brent, build a limes for me in Galatia instead. Let the 4th mob come - I don't lose the province until support check the next turn and that would keep everything else the same
80 4/24/2019 12:37:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message good enough, thanks Brent.

79 4/23/2019 10:13:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Probably the simplest solution would be for you to use 2 of the points from the dodgy build action to host more games....bread and circuses (although the Mobs know it's sawdust and circuses). You'd waste a Populace point, lose the janky Legacy point for the improvement that wasn't, and be back to 3 Mobs in Syria by the end of your turn.

I can fix that in my turn if that's the way you want to go.
78 4/23/2019 10:04:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message That "amphitheatre" in Syria is a cheap charade made of camel dung and toenail clippings, but the rioting plebs aren't going to be fooled....you can't build an improvement in a province with Mobs (Rule 6.3.3, page 6).

Might make quite a difference to your turn so I'll let you rejig that before posting mine.
77 4/23/2019 9:57:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Well if it makes you feel any better Shaun's pretender empire lasted one whole turn -yours :)

Had to install a neutral governor in Africa as I have none spare. Unfortunately I had to leave a garrison to keep an eye on him, I think he has nomad relatives.

Built a stadium for the people of Syria paid Shaun's hirelings in Aegyptus to annoy Brent in Thracia instead and held a grand games in Rome, though not by choice.

Over to Brent
76 4/23/2019 7:33:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message Gave Shaun his two points.
Well my attempt at battle will have you crying tears of joy, apparently my bigging up the mighty troops of Macedon was the wrong call. If it wasn't for the fact I needed them I would considered a decimation was required.
This round may end up costing me the game - I was hoping to get 7 points from it but only managed 3
75 4/23/2019 8:47:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message No other Pretender, Shaun, so you're good for another 2 Legacy.

Good work. This is a fascinating game. I have no idea who's looking like the winner. Michael's imperial dynasty looks stronger than the previous bozo on the throne but the Red Pretender is going to be hard for him to get at and those mobs are looking ugly. I think Shaun and Michael have created pretty lean hands, with aggressive trashing, which will probably be the telling factor in the last couple of turns. Really interested to see how this one will turn out.

74 4/23/2019 7:29:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Turn done - I am pretender to the throne now.

Didn't know if any other breakaways - if not then Murray please put me up 2 more legacy.

I look forward to sending my legions over the alps to rampage over the decaying hub of what was a fine empire, but which is now consumed by vile political thuggery.

Murray up.
73 4/23/2019 12:27:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 28_Green logged and Shaun up.

Bloody, bloody Pyrrhic victory for me in Asia but Cniva has gone to Valhalla.

Put an Emperor Turns marker on 1 for you, Michael.

72 4/22/2019 9:25:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message with all that i forgot to update my emperor turns to 1, could you please adjust that Brent?

71 4/22/2019 9:24:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I saw that too, but not to worry I sorted it out.

Given the time of Crisis I felt that you were no longer suited to the Job so I replaced you Murray. No hard feelings but I sensed you were struggling and felt it my moral duty to take the burden off you.

I also have a new concubine, barbarians are now massing (again) and Shaun's paid supporters are still whining away in Syria (though not for much longer).

Over to Brent.
70 4/22/2019 8:51:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Still not quite right. I think your Emperor's Italian support is 1, not 2.

Started at 1, gained 1 for new governorship in Gallia, lost 1 for Zenobia. Would affect your Legacy (somehow I think you came out right but not by the means you calculated) and what comes next, but doesn't affect your card purchase.

By my calculation your total Legacy gain for the turn should have been:

Battle victory 4 + provinces 3 + Limes 1 + Italian support 1 = 9.....and you've ended up going from 31 to 40, so all good.

So that's just a reduction in Emperor's support. to 1. Michael, can fix that in your turn?
69 4/22/2019 8:47:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message We know Murray, but we love you anyway.

Not sure that I can leave you in charge - even though you are a much better choice than the other knuckle draggers.

I mean most of your legacy has come from beating up Barbarians, unlike the rest of them.
68 4/22/2019 8:04:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message redone hand draw and won battle - thanks for picking that up. The worse part of my turn was I was convinced I had played a foederati and went to use it and realised I hadnt. your Emperor is special
67 4/22/2019 7:34:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I can live with the sassnids outside my little patch of Rome for now.

Just waiting on Murray to redo his end phase - a few extra legacy and a 3 pointer I'm guessing?
66 4/22/2019 6:38:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Rereading the rules I also discovered that killing a barbarian leader is worth the 1 legacy also.

I though you only got the support increase or the card reduction so I didn't take it when I killed Shapur I

Now that I know where the leaders come from I think I made a rather huge mistake trying for pacifist in the far right corner, I should have gone with North Africa or Britain...
65 4/22/2019 6:36:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Are you sure Brent? 8.3 Retreat states that Roman armies do not retreat unless they were DEFENDING in a provincial capital space. To defend you must be attacked and Barbarians don't attack.

I realise that has implications for a prior turn (which you will just have to wear unfortunately) but having looked at it that indicates you only retreat if another Roman attacks you (and they win).
64 4/22/2019 6:32:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Okay, reviewed Murray's turn. Agree with Michael.....by eliminating the barbarians there you won the battle (somehow).

Michael, Ardashir wouldn't invade. He invades normally with a successful roll. His special ability is that he makes all active Sassanids invade on a successful roll regardless of the result, but it still has to be a successful invasion roll, and I don't think it was (a 4?)
63 4/22/2019 6:19:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Just keeping my thoughts clear before reviewing what sounds like a train wreck of a turn for Murray.

Shaun, I believe your tied result in Britannia means that as attacker you lost the battle in Britannia, which forces you to retreat out of the capital. As I found in Pannonia, this is a pain in the ass, as it's not protected against usurping governors and to get back in you have to win a battle there (maybe not too hard now) or move another army in.
62 4/22/2019 8:18:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Murray you're right that was the worst turn ever, but not the way you meant it.

You did 1 hit with a legion and 1 with the recruit barbarians so 2 hits - there were only 2 Franks so they died, ergo you won the battle by default.

incidentally you only get legacy for killed barbarians if you win, so instead of the 1 you took erroneously you get 4 (not that you need it).

then you can tribute in Macedonia to keep the province.

so you are still emperor and have 3 provinces, imperial support should be at 1, +1 for Gallia and then -1 for Zenobia.

Incidentally the Sassnid leader should have invaded Galatia in Shaun's turn as his special ability is to invade with all the sassnids regardless of the die roll (cheeky bugger). Hence my recruiting last turn as I was afraid he would come with too many for e to deal with.

I think you better delete your second file and do a new buy and draw step.

61 4/22/2019 7:47:00 AM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message well that turn went nothing NOTHING like the plan, From the crisis on wards a disaster. There are two files as I forgot to draw my hand. Have a laugh at my turn but follow from the second file.
60 4/22/2019 6:15:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Some bastard Barbarians and mobs stuffing up my grand plan to rule, and the legions couldn't pilum a barn door.

Turn done over to Murray.

There will be retribution

59 4/21/2019 10:19:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 24_Green in the can and Shaun up for Red.

I gave Murray's emperor 1 support back.....now at 1 (he lost 1 for the Gallic coup in your turn, Michael, but he was at 2 as per my last post).

A bit of card drawing shenanigans in my turn, sorry....it was all legit I promise.
58 4/21/2019 10:14:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I see what you did now, you should have adjusted up in Pannonia and down again after. I believe you said something to that effect at the time.

I took Gallia off you in my turn but I adjusted you as per Brent's request at the start of turn so you should be on 1, not zero. I'm sure Brent can fix it up.
57 4/21/2019 9:44:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Apologies Murray, your support level was right. My fault for trying to think that through while inconsiderate patients were distracting me.

Italian support for a player emperor is a bit complicated and not quite like a neutral emperor.

Like a neutral emperor, your support goes up by 1 every time you place a new governor and by 1 every time you remove a governor.....see the blue box second column page 5. You can lose support in other player turns if they bump your governors out of your other provinces.

In your support check phase (page 6), you lose support in Italia for the usual reasons....having active barbarians in Italia or enemy troops in the Italian capital PLUS you lose 1 support for each rival emperor on the board (Zenobia, Postumus and Priest King) and each enemy player Pretender. It's hard being a tall poppy!

In your turn you started with 2 support in Italia, gained 2 when you placed 2 governors in Gallia and Pannonia, lost 2 in Support check for losing the governor in Pannonia and for Zenobia (but she was worth it, hey? :). Back to 2 Support in Italia, which was right....not sure that's how you thought it through but it came out right in the wash.
56 4/21/2019 9:07:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Support check is first. You lose pannonia which brings you back by 1 then zenobia docks you another.

You can only lose Italia or any other province, due to Support in your turn as it's part of Support checking
55 4/21/2019 9:03:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Actually I still stuffed up. Forgot I own a limes, so if someone could bump me up one it would be appreciated.
54 4/21/2019 9:03:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message hi guys,
Am I misunderstanding the emperor support level. In my last turn i took Gallia so controlled 3 provinces when the check was done so 3 support in Italia but minus 1 for Zenoba - so should be 2. I have assumed as the emperor takes control of provines his support level rises in Italia? If so, shouldn't it be on 1 not zero - at zero it goes neutral? The support level in Italia should only be checked during the Emperors turn.
And I do think I should loose a legacy point.
Now it would benefit me a lot if it was on zero as Shaun or Brent would not need to beat up my army to take the throne as my troops in the capital would not effect the number of votes needed - being 2 at +1. I like my army.
Not sure it makes difference for anyone but Brent but in Panonia if I loose the governorship before the end of the turn then the barbarians in their should remain inactive - yes? As you only make them active in provinces you control.

I have the feeling that between us we know all the rules.
53 4/21/2019 8:25:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I think I fixed all the errors.

Gallia has a new governor, the Emperor is the least liked one in history, Zenobia is still carrying on in Aegyptus and Murray is racing away with the game (again).

over to you Brent
52 4/21/2019 6:46:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message So Murray, Zenobia is a rival emperor. While she's there you don't move the Emperor Turns markers and she reduces your Italian support by 1 at Support Check. So you have 1 less Legacy. Michael, I think you should leave Zenobia alive for at least another turn while you take your joy of her....you'll need to bribe the Egyptian populace with yellow stuff but she does far more harm to the Emperor than she does to you.

Michael, could you please pull back Murray's Legacy and Emperor Turns marker by 1? Could you please also dock yourself the additional legacy I erroneously gave you and activate the Alamanni in Pannonia (I forgot to do it although Murray played it correctly....fluke)?

Shaun's the man....very strong position and hand.
51 4/21/2019 10:42:00 AM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message Shaun missed a couple things at the end - fixed.
Rolled a double 1 for crisis so lots of Barbarians activated, we will be fighting them lots.
There was a letter from the people of Gallia suggesting that the Red Gov was weak and needed replacing. A similar letter was also received from the poor people of Panonia. New gov's were dispatched but the one in Panonia was I believed poisoned by the green with envy traitor. The senate will investigate.
Troops returned to Rome.
Michael you need to deal with Zenobabe - she is a distraction to true Romans even ones that have been in the sun too long.
50 4/21/2019 9:04:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Murray up. Just did some basic gardening this turn

Stay away from me you blue dog, lest you become redded by my fist.

49 4/21/2019 8:24:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Thanks Michael. Did you think Murray's creative rule interpretation was rubbing off on me?

The wording of the place Militia action refers to there being no enemy units in the capital, not the province....so it's legal to place one with barbarians roaming, raping and pillaging in the surrounding countryside.

There's nothing in the rules about activating barbarians when attacking them, so I did a quick search and the designer has confirmed that they don't activate when attacked. Ruling is here (last couple of posts in the thread)....

48 4/21/2019 7:49:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message There is a couple of problems with your turn Brent.

Militia can only be produced in a province free of enemy units.

Secondly from memory attacking barbarians causes them to activate so you need that 2 points to increase support or lose the province
47 4/21/2019 5:35:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Sorry I do sometimes remember to hit end turn. Will make it a priority.

I put a neutral in to save time. Sorry, should have gone with procedure.

Remove your Gov
Place mine
Lose 1 support in check Support due to hostile force in capital.
Replace with neutral.

Legacy etc is after Support check phase.

Sorry for any confusion.
46 4/21/2019 4:36:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 20_Green up and over to Shaun.

Embarrassing "battle in Pannonia".

Gave you an additional Legacy Michael.....you put a neutral governor in Asia and it should have been yours.

Can I just ask everyone to hit the End Turn button to clear the card images in the Mediterranean?...jus a bit confusing when you have left over unused influence points and then the following player plays his points and there's a risk of him (i.e. Murray) using the previous player's unused points.
45 4/20/2019 9:27:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message I forgot to draw hand also - busy day yesterday.

More Fransk (no invasion) some political shenanigans but not much change.

Over to Brent
44 4/20/2019 8:16:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message Apologies to all for my too many mistakes.
I also forgot to draw my hand last turn.
This turn hopefully was faultless. Dealt with some Barbarian scouts - not on my watch you smelly goats.
But mostly wasted cards and turn to be honest.
Over to the loyal servant in the east.
This round will tell if the empire was happy with my rule or not

43 4/20/2019 9:27:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Rush that turn Murray. Red done.
42 4/20/2019 2:52:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Yep, it's right there in the rules....rule 9.0, page 10, bullet 5 under the barbarian invasion procedure.

Barbarian Leaders are placed first so will go into the first province on the invasion path.
41 4/20/2019 2:47:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 16_Green in the can and Shaun up for Red.

Again, I've spent the majority of my turn doing Murray's turn for him. You should have had 7 Legacy - 3 provinces, 3 Emperor, 1 Limes. I've given you the extra. You're welcome.

I'm not sure how you made a Militia in Italia....you need 2 yellow Populace and you played none. Were you trying to use blue points? Good try but the incontinent geriatric senators wheeled into the front rows of the Curia who fall asleep and lose control of their bodily functions during the sitting of the Senate don't make a militia. I've removed the Militia counter and recruited your 2 point guvnah, which is the only thing I could see you doing with those points. Not to worry if he's a bit new to the job and wet behind the ears....I've sent your Pannonia guvnah to keep him company and give him bad career advice.

I've seen this problem with no Emperor Turns counters when one player doesn't have the most up to date module, which must be the case here? We were okay last time....did anyone reload their module version? Doesn't matter...using Breakaway counters is fine. Murray, you only have one Seat of Power counter.....if you plan to do your Pretender trick (which you may well, as your bum's barely going to touch the throne), you might want to switch it for a Breakaway counter.

A Goth invasion is immanent and could be up to 6 invaders, meaning multiple provinces. I'll do a bit of research to find out which province the leader goes to and let you know. Suspect it will the be the first on the invasion path.
40 4/20/2019 1:36:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Turn done, over to brent

I send you a gift mighty one - the sultan's beard - head was too heaevy to post

your semi-loyal sevrant

39 4/19/2019 7:24:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message all done and the empire is secure over to pretender #1 ps keep sending the whores but keep that rubbish beer we have wine
38 4/19/2019 4:33:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Red has gone, Murray up.

Looks to be busy on the barbarian front there. I'm gonna sit in my little hideavay and sneer from the outside.

Till they come my way.
37 4/19/2019 3:50:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Pretty sure the Barbarian leader discount is applied after you double. I can't find a specific ruling but there's a precedent with the cost modification of buying additional cards after the first applying after doubling....ruled here....


....so I expect the same principle would apply for cost modification with a Barbarian Leader or Rival Emperor kill.
36 4/19/2019 3:32:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Thanks everyone.

Dad's still in observation - pretty banged up physically too.

He's where he needs to be at the moment, but this is the calm before the storm when they send him home.

He can't stay on his own anymore so the proverbial will hit the fan for sure.

But that's a problem no one can help me with - unlike rampaging Goths :)
35 4/19/2019 3:28:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Sure, willing to give anything a go.
34 4/19/2019 3:22:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 12_Green uploaded and over to Shaun for Red.

Sorry to hear about your dad, Michael. Hope he's okay.

I'm working night shifts right over Easter so no play for me :(. Next week might be okay but with school holidays I'll need to keep any plans tentative depending on what the family wants to do. Working days the week after that so could possibly do evenings then too.

When we do play live, are you guys ready to try Pericles? No rush but it's definitely one that should be reserved for live play. Time of Crisis kicks along nicely PBEM and we should have no problem finishing it that way. The rules for Pericles look fairly straight forward on the surface but trying to apply them to effective play isn't at all clear. The designer has a recommended stepwise vignette approach to learning but these mini-games are a bit too bland and light. Hard o see the game's majesty that way. I've found in the games I've run that having one person at the table who knows the game very well, and is willing to point out the strategic wrinkles and how to navigate the game systems to approach them, fast tracks through the learning process just fine in one of the full scenarios.

I've been in touch with Bart who has settled in and is ready to start some PBEM. He'd be keen to play Merchant of Venus and I wouldn't mind. Old game (Avalon Hill version, not the FFG remake) but a a great one by one of my favourite designers. It's perfect for PBEM....no player interaction and longish meaningful turns that can be logged easily. I think the AH version plays up to 6 so room for all if you guys are interested. I know Murray has played it before and I can recommend it highly.
33 4/19/2019 3:09:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message on the off chance one of us kills off a barbarian leader in the near future - does the discount to next military card apply before or after card cost doubling? I would assume after but I couldn't see anything
32 4/18/2019 10:29:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Can probably manage some time, just not sure when.

Dad had a mild stroke on Tuesday afternoon and might be coming out soon, though probably not over the weekend I suspect.
31 4/18/2019 8:11:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Almost forgot, the Goth leader Cvnia turned up - hopefully one of you chest beating, knuckledraggers - I meant great warriors - can deal with that before it becomes a problem.

30 4/18/2019 8:09:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Turn done, over to Brent.

Proper leadership and supervision has been provided in Aegyptus - also sent another legion to police the legion that was supposed to be policing the brothels and ale houses.

Beer is still holding out in Syria - for now.
29 4/18/2019 7:40:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message Blue done, recruited a gov and legion.

I am free the mornings and Sunday and Monday evening. I am opening the store both days but I suspect I will be closed early both days.

28 4/18/2019 6:58:00 PM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Murray is up, red has gone.

Going to be quiet here this weekend for me so if anyone has an evening to go a little further I am up for it.

If not should be quicker on the turns.

Roll on boys
27 4/17/2019 7:00:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message By some sleight of hand you took 4 for the battle. Iíve docked you 1 back to 8.

We all know why youíre going blind.
26 4/17/2019 5:52:00 AM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message I didn't deliberately take the wound on the legion I really thought I was putting it on the militia (I am hopefully getting my eyes tested next week).
I believe I took 2 points for winning the battle and 1 point for a dead barbarian unit. Was that not correct?

Michael a strong leader builds Limes more proof of why I should be Emperor and not you.
25 4/17/2019 4:13:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message and would someone tell me why my briliant plan was so against the limes...
24 4/17/2019 4:12:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message No it's all part of my plan, those are just my new mercenary guards to keep more militant roman factions out

Yes, really! Why did we lock the gates? um, they have a severe...flea infestation

I'm sure we can come up with a remedy in a few months, the beer should last until then so don't worry about it.

now where was that escape plan...
23 4/17/2019 3:20:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 08_Green uploaded and Red Shaun up

I don't know why you bothered going to the comedy festival, Murray. Your turns are a joke enough to keep us amused (when we're not crying). I've had to spend more time in my log fixing your f(*&ups than doing my own turn. You "accidentaly" snuck in one too many Legacy for your battle victory in Pannonia, which I've corrected. Then your 5 minute cup and ball trick with your army in Pannonia (took me 5 minutes to scroll through!) obfuscated the fact that you can't choose which unit in your army takes a hit....has to be Militia first, then Barbs if you have them, then Legions. I've removed your Militia and returned your Legion to full strength.

Oh, and you have a new guest come to stay in Syria, Michael. The kids have been booted out of the spare room to accommodate Shapur, he's built one of those Zoroastrian eternal fire altars on the lounge room floor and is using your favourite chairs and side table to fuel it, and he's brought his sinister looking relatives with him. Pity the Legions are away enjoying the fleshpots of Memphis. Good thing you bribed the Syrian populace but it won't last.
22 4/16/2019 9:09:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Welcome back Murray!

With the nomad expansion threatening the Beer trade, my heroic legions have stepped in to restore order.

The markets, and the peasants, rejoiced!

over to you Brent.
21 4/16/2019 7:42:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message sorry for delay but in Melbourne for comedy fest and decided I needed a cold as well. I beat up some barbarians, built some limes and surged ahead on the point track. Over to Michael
20 4/14/2019 6:11:00 AM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Next player is Murray so you may be right about the orgies. I also know where Murray's firm hand is......and I think it's best to stop there.
19 4/14/2019 1:31:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Red turn done. Onto next player for more wild orgies and hijinks

18 4/13/2019 6:28:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message 04 logged and Shaun up.

Didn't spot Murray's cheating in time, sorry. Can you fix it, Shaun? (replace his 2 cost governor with his 1 cost one)

17 4/13/2019 9:01:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message oh yeah, the Franks (well one) invaded Pannonia too, so you probably need that army.
16 4/13/2019 9:00:00 AM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Yellow turn is done and up

I think you forgot you need DOUBLE the influence to displace the governor Murray. Either you need to roll a die here and get a 6 or recruit the cheap (1 cost) governor and pay 2 influence.

Other option is to march your army but then you can't place the new one.

I think it's best if you just buy the 1 pointer and place him. Let us know and Brent can fix it in his turn.

Or you can throw a die here and see how that goes...
15 4/12/2019 10:07:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message Blue done
it takes a firm hand to rule the empire and crush its enemies, I have recruited in Macedon the finest troops outside of Rome itself. Victory goes to the strong and the just are mighty.
14 4/12/2019 7:19:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Red turn completed and ready to go again.

I am now offically a dog, with a licence to prove it. Dogman that is. Sorry for the delay but have been going through a workcover assessment for the last few days and studying for the test. Passed now so should be clear.

Look forward to the game.....
13 4/11/2019 8:16:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Actually, Shaun, the Event deck needs initialising if you're happy to do that in your turn.
12 4/11/2019 8:13:00 PM Turn 1 Brent Insatiable Message Thracia.

Hey neighbour, I've been meaning to speak to you about replacing that leaning fence and your disgusting practice of sunbathing naked in your back yard while my kids are in the pool (worshiping your sun god, yeah right!....I saw Murray Invictus and immediately and understandably read it as Murray Infectious). I'm sure we can settle these domestic issues without going to arbitration....that's what my pilum and gladius are for.

Shaun and red up first I believe.

11 4/11/2019 6:25:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Galatia

I was seriously considering Gaul but I picked an incompatible starting hand - not red this time so going to try being a peacenik

Maybe :)
10 4/11/2019 5:45:00 PM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message So where is Brent going to start? His favourite spots are Gaul and Nth Africa but one puts him between Shaun and I, the other between Mike and Shaun (going 4th means he is unlikely to be given Egypt). So Asia Minor or Macedonia. I am leaning towards Macedon as it doesn't get barbars and is still close to Rome but Brent likes to be unpredictable. What do you think?
9 4/11/2019 1:31:00 PM Turn 1 Michael Ironsides Message Syria this time, over to Brent
8 4/11/2019 8:15:00 AM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message Mike is up
7 4/11/2019 8:15:00 AM Turn 1 Murray Invictus Message Blue set up in Pannonia. Pretty sure I can get lots of points fighting barbarians
6 4/11/2019 6:56:00 AM Turn 1 Shaun Indestructable Message Red has selected Hispania - save file up.

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