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521 11/2/2019 4:35:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message While we are having a time out, I'll note that I'm looking forward to the Mark Herman / Geoff Engelstein Versailles 1919 game that might come out in 2020. It seems to be a relative of this. Games where there is a diplomatic side that plays out with consequences appeal to me and are an under-explored area.
520 10/31/2019 12:06:00 PM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message NO DEBATE from Churchill
519 10/31/2019 7:44:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Or even from the card... Any debate of this?
518 10/31/2019 7:44:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Kulik moves Soviet Directed Offensive 4+1, so from US 1 to Soviet 4 space.
517 10/31/2019 7:40:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message The 8th Army and Bolero instructions form the conference card will be actioned when we use the production markers.
516 10/30/2019 6:06:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message I of course will then pass my next turn -
I show I have one turn / card left after this.

On to Uncle Joe
515 10/30/2019 6:05:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from UK Churchill:
I'll debate with POUND - negates the US play but I have to make a death roll

He dies on roll of 1-3
514 10/30/2019 6:03:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message >US Roosevelt: from 1 Prod West, but lose 1 prod, Air losses to 1 Prod West, but lose 1 prod, Air losses
UK Churchill: from 8th Army: 1 prod for Med offensive to 8th Army: 1 prod for Med offensive

when does this happen? I didn't see it reflected on board?
513 10/29/2019 7:39:00 PM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message I'll play Ernest J King. He's a 1 with a +3 for the Pacific Leadership issue, so the Pacific Leadership goes back to the centre of the table.

Any debate?
512 10/29/2019 2:17:00 PM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message Poor Stalin - he thinks everybody is against him -and he's right....
511 10/29/2019 1:29:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Edit Current Conference / Version USSR Stalin: from Sextant A. Stalin miffed (no advancing issue). to Sextant A. Stalin miffed. Then paranoid.
US Roosevelt: from 1 Prod West, but lose 1 prod, Air losses to 1 Prod West, but lose 1 prod, Air losses
UK Churchill: from 8th Army: 1 prod for Med offensive to 8th Army: 1 prod for Med offensive
510 10/29/2019 1:29:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
1


Message from USSR Stalin:
Paranoia rolls: on 2-4 there's a -1 in strength of subsequent cards this conference.

Soviets then pass so it is the US turn.
509 10/29/2019 1:27:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Stalin's 7 stength moves the Pol-Mil issue from UK 5 to Soviet 2.

Additionally Soviets gain a clandestine network due to the issue being Pol-Mil.

Then there's a paranoia roll.
508 10/29/2019 1:25:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Discard Meretskov to play Stalin to debate the move.
507 10/28/2019 4:02:00 PM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message USA will not debate the British play.
506 10/28/2019 5:35:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message I'll play TONY EDEN - and move the Pol/Mil from USA 1 to British 5 due to modifier for POL/MIL event

505 10/28/2019 5:05:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message I haven't been Nyeting because I've been desperate to move something.
504 10/27/2019 4:17:00 PM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message I'll debate the Soviet play with Harold L. Ickes. He's a 3 with a +1 because Roosevelt is active, so the Pol-Mil 2/2 moves from USSR-3 to US-1.

USA now passes and it's round to Bob to advance an issue.
503 10/26/2019 6:16:00 AM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message USA will debate the Soviet play, but I wonít be able to make the move until late afternoon.
502 10/26/2019 5:44:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message Intersting question came up on Churchill CONSIM site:



7.8 Axis Surrender says that no further front movement occurs on any front track in that theatre when Germany or Japan surrenders.



7.81 Germany says that Germany surrenders when the Western and/or Eastern Fronts enter the Germany space.



Don't they contradict each other, or am I being too literal?



The theory being that once one Front has entered Germany the other can't? Yes, you're being too literal, especially given that there's no mechanism in the rules to determine which Front attempts to advance before any other Front. It seems pretty clear to me that all Fronts' attempts to advance in a given conference are simultaneous for game purposes.

501 10/25/2019 6:01:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message No debate on Soviet play
500 10/25/2019 4:23:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Neither will Soviets.

2+1 play: Kaganovitch moves the Pol-Mil 2-2 to the 3 spot on the Soviet track as Stalin still active.
499 10/22/2019 9:42:00 AM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message USA will not debate the British play.
498 10/21/2019 9:51:00 PM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message Play Macready to move US Production up 3 on British column
497 10/21/2019 4:46:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message I think passing after debating an advanced issue is generally the best course to preserve hand size to keep options open. However, there are times I can conceive of a double whammy on an issue that is half way along a track.
496 10/20/2019 5:12:00 PM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message USA debates the Soviet play with Cordell Hull. He's a 5 with a +1 for Pol-Mil issues so the Pol-Mil 2/2 goes right back to the centre of the table.

USA now passes and it's round to Bob to advance an issue.
495 10/20/2019 7:28:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message I'll hold off on my turn until I see what card you play for discard/debate
494 10/19/2019 6:04:00 PM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message USA will debate that and then pass. I probably wonít be able to actually make the move until late afternoon tomorrow, though.
493 10/19/2019 5:35:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Voroshilov 5+1 to move Pol-Mil 2/2 from middle to the Soviet 6 box.
492 10/19/2019 5:29:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Around to Stalin again. Just looking at cards. Am back home from Portugal trip.
491 10/18/2019 5:58:00 AM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message Tricky, but USA will not debate that either. There aren't enough cards in this game...
490 10/18/2019 2:58:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Stalin will not debate that.
489 10/17/2019 5:29:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message I'll assume the US now passes - I'll play a 4 card and
move the pacific Theater up to 4 on British track
488 10/17/2019 4:51:00 AM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message USA debates the Soviet play using Stanley Embrick. He's a 1 with a +2 for Directed Offensives so the USSR Directed Ofensive moves from USSR-2 to USA-1.

Round to Bob for the USA's second card.
487 10/17/2019 2:25:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message US to debate or take turn.
486 10/16/2019 5:59:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message NO Debate
485 10/16/2019 2:21:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Timoshenko, a 5, moves Soviet Directed offensive from US 4 to Soviet 1. Then his ability moves it another 1 to Soviet 2 space.
484 10/15/2019 7:20:00 AM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message No debate from me either, back to Paul.
483 10/15/2019 2:22:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message No debate. I didn't get a file.
482 10/14/2019 7:49:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message I'll play Beaverbrook - as Churchill is active it's worth 5 so we'll move the Atomic Bomb up to British 5
481 10/14/2019 7:43:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message >Bob, you do realise that the UK Production issue doesn't give you any more production? If Paul or I win the issue then we get one of your production markers to use, otherwise your production is unchanged (see 6.32, second paragraph).

Drat - I miss read the card - please put a US production marker on instead.
480 10/13/2019 2:46:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message On to the meeting segment with the rounds starting with Bob playing a card.

I'm off to Portugal for a short break, but will have the small laptop with me. So, subject to internet availability, there shouldn't be a problem.
479 10/13/2019 4:59:00 AM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message I'll pick the Pacific Theatre Leadership and A-Bomb Research Issues.

Bob, you do realise that the UK Production issue doesn't give you any more production? If Paul or I win the issue then we get one of your production markers to use, otherwise your production is unchanged (see 6.32, second paragraph).

The USSR Directed Offensive went to US-4 because I picked it as my "bonus" for winning the Agenda Segment with a 5-card and the lowest card played was a 1 (see 5.14, first paragraph).
478 10/12/2019 7:16:00 AM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message Why did USSR offensive move up to US 4?
477 10/12/2019 2:54:00 AM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Stalin chooses USA production and Pol-Mil 2/2.
476 10/11/2019 10:07:00 PM Turn 4 UK Churchill Message Production and Strategic Materials
475 10/11/2019 8:16:00 AM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message Iíll place the USSR Directed Offensive on the US-4 space. Round to Bob to pick his two items. NO MAP this time, Iím busy with my father and wonít be able to get to VASSAL for at least another four hours, so please could Bob or Paul place the issue for me.
474 10/10/2019 1:06:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Bob reveals Percy Noble, a weak 2. However, not as weak as Malenkov's 1. Nick therefore wins this stage and picks and places the first agenda item on his 4 space.
473 10/8/2019 4:55:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Reveal Malenkov, a lowly 1 rated card.
472 10/8/2019 4:23:00 PM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message I've picked, placed and unmasked Henry Stimson, a 5, for my Agenda play.
471 10/7/2019 1:50:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message No, it is an even conference so the up to 14 cards you have are fine. Removals can mean you have less than 14. Drawing the new conference card did a wondrous clean up.
470 10/7/2019 1:43:00 PM Turn 4 US Roosevelt Message I'll wait for Bob to draw & place first, I'm expecting the evening carers for my father soon.

Do we need to shuffle the discards in this time?
469 10/7/2019 1:40:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Message Final file sent is Soviet card draw and placement of one card face down. Over to you two to draw and place. Whoever is last should place face up.
468 10/7/2019 1:32:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from USSR Stalin:
Partisan Dispute roll. If 1-3 CNs are probably removed at random.
467 10/7/2019 1:31:00 PM Turn 4 USSR Stalin Edit Current Conference / Version USSR Stalin: from Quadrant A to Sextant A. Stalin miffed (no advancing issue).
US Roosevelt: from Groves: A Bomb issue. Sicily. to 1 Prod West, but lose 1 prod, Air losses
UK Churchill: from Disagrees: UK directed offensive. Sicily. to 8th Army: 1 prod for Med offensive
466 10/7/2019 1:28:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Change game turn Game turn changed to Turn 4
465 10/7/2019 1:06:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Edit VPs USSR Stalin: from 28 to 35
US Roosevelt: from 13 to 23
UK Churchill: from 7 to 13
464 10/7/2019 12:12:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Three fronts have advanced: Western Europe, Mediterranean and China-Burma-India.

I'll send this out as a file and then get on to s VP spreadsheet and setting up of the next turn shortly.
463 10/7/2019 12:10:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

8


Message from USSR Stalin:
Central Pacific: base 2 + 4 OS - 4 Japanese pair of armies = success on 1-2.
462 10/7/2019 12:09:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

2


Message from USSR Stalin:
CBI: base 2 + 4 for OS - 2 for Japanese reserve = success on 1-4.
461 10/7/2019 12:08:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

8


Message from USSR Stalin:
Far East into Nomohon. Just the base 2 so success on 1-2.
460 10/7/2019 12:07:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

1


Message from USSR Stalin:
Rerolling for Med as I selected a d6 not a d10.
459 10/7/2019 12:06:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from USSR Stalin:
Mediterranean: base 2 + 6 for OS -2 for Italian reserve = success on 1-6.
458 10/7/2019 12:02:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

2


Message from USSR Stalin:
Roll for Western Theater. Base 2 + 10 from OS -2 for 1 German reserve = success on 1-10.

This is therefore automatic, but there can't be a breakthrough on a 10 due to Normandy restictions.
457 10/7/2019 11:58:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Picking up where I left off (have been having turning the central heating on day fun today):

these fronts are not advancable...Eastern (10-10 situation) and Southwest Pacific (2-2).
456 10/7/2019 6:17:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message looks good - please continue
455 10/6/2019 9:00:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Two go to Caroline Islands, 1 to PNG and 1 to French Indo China.

Will send file now. Please check. Continue with the fronts if you like, otherwise I'll do them later.
454 10/6/2019 8:58:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

2
2
3
5


Message from USSR Stalin:
Placement of the 4 remaining Japanese armies.1-2 Central P, 3-4 SW P, 5-6 CBI.
453 10/6/2019 8:57:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5


Message from USSR Stalin:
Japanese forces:

4. First roll is Japanese naval placement on 1-2. It would go to the Caroline Islands on the Central Pacific track. 2nd roll is conditional elim on 1-4 if it was placed.
452 10/6/2019 8:54:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Placed in UK/Bolero. Not sure what that represents. Defence against Dieppe raid etc. perhaps?
451 10/6/2019 8:52:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from USSR Stalin:
Final German army. 1-2 Western, 3-4 eastern, 5 Med, 6. remove Arctic naval marker.
450 10/6/2019 8:51:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message German Reserves:

2. One army to Don River.

3. Battle of Atlantic. German Navy reserve removes a naval marker from Western Theatre.

4. Four more armies to Don River, Eastern Horde.

7. Italian army to sicily.

8. Roll for final army placement.
449 10/6/2019 8:44:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Soviet Political Alignment goes in Romania.
448 10/6/2019 5:51:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message I'll place CNs in Malaya and the Middle East, then discard my last one to remove the Russian CN in Vietnam.

That's it for CNs, although Bob will need to place his one in Persia (I can't place it for him as the module won't let me).

Next is Political Alignment markers. I get two and Paul gets one, so I place first. I'll place my two in the Middle East and the Dutch East Indies.

Over to Paul to place his Political Alignment marker, and then I think we're on to the Axis Reserve placements and advancing of Fronts.
447 10/5/2019 6:42:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message Okay, that makes sense.
446 10/5/2019 2:09:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Yes. So your Prussia one frustrates Soviet placement prior to the passing of their front (they have to place two CNs to get one in place due to needing to remove yours). If you want to keep CN presence in a space an opposite side front is heading towards you need two CNs there so that one takes the hit and one persists.
445 10/4/2019 6:07:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message going out of order but I'll place mine in the Persia - no map right now

So what is the deal about removals if they are behind the lines - so my marker in Poland is removed if Russians get to Prussia?
444 10/4/2019 1:59:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Clandestine Networks: Soviets 3+1, USA 2+1 and UK just 1. I have removed the OS in Nomohon so that the 1/3 Pol-Mil is activated as I didn't do that properly.

Soviets place in Vietnam, Malaya, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia. The Malaya one removes the US CN there.
443 10/3/2019 3:57:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Will do. Am 'unplanned away' (yesterday and) today. Will place when back tonight.
442 10/1/2019 5:59:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message I'll move the Churchill-Roosevelt global issue to Self-Determination.

Paul, could you update the map for me when you do your Clandestine Network placement please? I've been busy with my father today and don't expect to be able to update the map myself until tomorrow afternoon. I think we're doing CNs next and you have most of those to place so it's your turn next.
441 10/1/2019 5:53:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message Bob gets 10 total:

Base production of 4, +1 for strategic materials and -1 (to Russia) because Russia won the UK Production issue. The first of these 4 must be used for an offensive in the Med, thanks to the conference card.

Then three naval or offensive support markers, which must be placed in the European Theatre, for winning the European Theatre Leadership issue. Then another three naval or offensive support markers, which must be placed in the Pacific Theatre, for winning the Pacific Theatre Leadership issue.
440 10/1/2019 5:38:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message So Do I get 9 or 10?
I didn't see Soviet offensive marker placed on Eastern Front.
439 10/1/2019 4:34:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Sending log file. On to US for Global Issue win resolution.
438 10/1/2019 4:33:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from USSR Stalin:
A-Bomb research roll 6.10.

No modifiers so US marker advances to Oak Ridge on 4-6 and Soviet Spy Ring marker automatically advances to Hanford due to Stalin winning the issue.
437 9/30/2019 5:56:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message OKay, but still I have 3 ++ 1 for strat thus 4 then 6 more for Thearter for total of 10 right?

2 to Sicily
2 to French INDO
4 to Bolero (that's the 3 for Euro Theart)
1 in Caroline Isl (that's the 3 for Pacific Theart)

I I really only get 9 the so be it- IF I get 10
place the last one with Uncle Joe on the Eastern Front

436 9/30/2019 5:51:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message >You only had 4 production to allocate, Bob. One was lost to Uncle Joe as he won the US Production issue.

why would that effect the BRITISH placement
I still have 3 Brit markers and then the Strat material?
435 9/29/2019 5:42:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message ...and that should have said Uncle Joe won the *UK* Production issue.
434 9/29/2019 11:10:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Stalin knew you wouldn't be needing that marker.
433 9/29/2019 9:47:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message You only had 4 production to allocate, Bob. One was lost to Uncle Joe as he won the US Production issue.

From the sequence of play at 6.0 your Theatre Leadership support markers are placed after we finish production allocation so because you were last to allocate production you can just carry on and place them straight away.

Could you decide which of the five production you allocated you're going to cancel. I can update the logfile if you like, but I need you to say exactly where to place the Theatre Leadership bonus support markers. Note that three of them must be placed in the European Theatre and the other three must be placed in the Pacific Theatre.
432 9/28/2019 8:16:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message >UK base 4 + 1 strategic materials

I have to place 1 in Med

I'm not sure when I get my 6 offensive/Naval markers
for the theater controls?

I'll place 2 marker in Indo China
I'll place 1 marker in United Kingdom
I'll place my 5th marker in Med

If I'm able to place 6 more I'll place
2 more in Med, 2 more in Britain, 1 give to Russians and 1 to Indo China -otherwise that's it for now.
431 9/28/2019 5:23:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message I'll use my first production to place offensive support in Sicily, as required by the conference card. Two more place naval support in the Central Pacific. One to activate the Pol-Mil 2/2. The two naval markers I gained from card play go one each in the Central and Southwest Pacific, taking them both up to five naval markers. The last three production will be used to place two offensive support in the Caroline Islands and one in the UK.
430 9/24/2019 11:59:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Then on to Soviets placement. Soviets use 5 of the 6 to place Offensive Support at Don River and 1 at Nomohon.

The USA places when connected to internet.
429 9/24/2019 11:51:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Then Soviets +1 and UK -1 for UK Prod marker being on Sov 6 space, so final counts:

UK 4, US 7, Soviets 6
428 9/24/2019 11:47:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message UK base 4 + 1 strategic materials

US base 6 + 1 strategic materials

Soviets base 3 + 1 strategic materials + 1 Arctic Theatre naval, no Murmansk Convoy.
427 9/24/2019 11:41:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message No conditional issues ion the center so on to production.
426 9/23/2019 6:16:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message British place DO marker on the 'soft underbelly' of the
Med with attempt at invasion to Sicily
425 9/22/2019 6:18:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message 1 all then.

Now on to the decision segment with the first step being UK placing the directed offensive (see 6.1) due to having the British one on the 1 space of the UK track.
424 9/22/2019 6:13:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Edit Conferences Won USSR Stalin: from 1 to 1
US Roosevelt: from 1 to 1
UK Churchill: from 0 to 1
423 9/21/2019 8:35:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message Go ahead Franklin, take Bermuda... I insist

422 9/21/2019 11:54:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message Roosevelt breaks the tie in Churchill's favour.

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