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419 9/19/2019 11:28:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message USA to debate or play final card then.

Am back from trip.
418 9/17/2019 5:03:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message No debate
417 9/17/2019 4:20:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Soviets won't debate.

Final Soviet card: Mikoyan moves UK production 3+1 from Soviet 2 to 6 space.
416 9/17/2019 1:31:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Bob you need to send me a file with the Portal play included so I can respond.
415 9/15/2019 6:55:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Am pondering whether to Nyet. The file you sent was TWS Soviet 1.6 card. This is the Joker play for the game?
414 9/14/2019 12:15:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message USA will not debate the British play.
413 9/14/2019 7:44:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message I have one card left after this play
412 9/14/2019 7:44:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message NO DEBATE -

I will play my next card.

Sr. Portal - worth 1 but worth 3 if marker is on US track - I'll move the Brit Offensive marker back to British 2 spot
411 9/13/2019 5:37:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Not from the Soviets.
410 9/13/2019 4:47:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message So he's a 4 this turn, but he gets a +2 for a Directed Offensive on the Soviet or UK tracks which would make him a 6. I'll use him to move the UK Directed Offensive issue from the UK-4 space to the US-2 space. Any debate?
409 9/13/2019 4:43:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from US Roosevelt:
No debate from the USA. I'll use George C. Marshall to advance an issue, but I'm going to see what his strength is before I decide which one.
408 9/13/2019 2:16:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message I was on the Jubilee line on Monday and at least one in eight people were coughing. It seems to be early this year.
407 9/12/2019 3:13:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message Sorry, my dad and I are both suffering from a viral sore throat - headache, coughing and generally feeling rough are part of it as well - which is making things somewhat more demanding than usual. I should be able to make a move tomorrow.
406 9/12/2019 1:56:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message US to debate Soviets, or play?
405 9/10/2019 5:55:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message No Debate
404 9/10/2019 5:34:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Play Budyonny to move UK Production to Soviet 2 space. Stalin no longer active so no penalty.
403 9/10/2019 5:27:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message I hadn't spotted that detail.
402 9/9/2019 12:22:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message Yes, when deciding whoís won the conference we each count the number of issues on our tracks and leaderís chair combined. If thereís a tie then the 4.52 tiebreak is used - each Active leader gets a chance to break the tie, in the order Stalin, Roosevelt, Churchill. If none of them break the tie then the USAís Arsenal of Democracy characteristic comes into play. In this particular conference Stalin has already been used so is Inactive and. so canít break a tie. What I canít find is whether using a Leader to break a tie means there needs to be a health roll for him.

When using your Chief of Staff 5.25 para 2 says ďA player must commit to playing his Chief of Staff card before determining his value, but, if advancing, he is not required to choose which issue to advance until after determining his value.Ē (and I only had to read the rules three times before I found it...I knew Iíd seen it somewhere)
401 9/9/2019 6:13:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message Brit. Offensive moves from US 5 to US 3
400 9/9/2019 6:12:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from UK Churchill:
Roll for card value
399 9/9/2019 6:12:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message I will play Sr. Allen Brooks - on this one I have to roll a die to see what is value is - I looked in rules and did not see if I had to roll BEFORE I decide which issue to move but I'll attempt to move the Brit. Offensive marker from the US section - in this instance is does not matter but we should probably get a ruling on this in case it comes up again.
398 9/9/2019 6:04:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message There is no difference in WINNING an even and just having it in your column except that if in your CHAIR others
can not move it back down to center right?
397 9/9/2019 6:03:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message so right now the Brits and US are tied in # of issues
but the US is the first tie breaker so Nick would win at this point if we stopped now?

I have 3 cards left (well now 2 after I play one) so we have all 2 moves left right?
396 9/9/2019 2:57:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message No debate.
395 9/8/2019 1:59:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message NO debate on US play
394 9/8/2019 1:20:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message I'll play Henry Morganthau Jr., he's a 4 with a +1 for the Global Issue. I'll move the Global Issue from the centre of the table to the US-5 space.

Any debate?
393 9/8/2019 1:09:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message Vatutin's event is ignored because he was discarded to allow the play of Stalin, see 5.26 which says "Attributes, bonuses, or penalties from the discarded staff
card are not implemented"
392 9/8/2019 7:17:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message No debate - but doesn't the card event also have to be played - roll 1-2 and card is permanently removed?

Just of note - using the card (on the Brit off.) moving
it down one would (probably) NOT have gotten a British debate but would have gotten you an extra Eastern Front offensive marker - just saying...
391 9/8/2019 5:56:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Churchill wanting to debate?
390 9/7/2019 7:16:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message USA will not debate, I'm not going to risk Roosevelt's health on that.
389 9/7/2019 1:18:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
3


Message from USSR Stalin:
As he was used on a Pol-Mil issue the Soviets get a Clandestine Network marker.

On a 2d6 roll of 2-4 there will be a Stalin paranoia penalty.
388 9/7/2019 1:17:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Soviets discard Valutin a 1 card to play Stalin for his 7.

Stalin is used to move 1/3 Pol-Mil to Soviet 5 space.
387 9/7/2019 1:13:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Neither will Soviets.
386 9/7/2019 8:41:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message USA won't be debating that.
385 9/7/2019 8:34:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message I'll play Sr. Hastings - as Churchill is still active he's worth 5 points - I'll move the Pacific theater card up - this will give all of us some more OPS points to place (well actually me but I'll use them to help us all)
384 9/6/2019 10:14:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message I will debate the play with Averell Harriman, he's a 4 with a +1 for the issue being on the Saviet Track making him a 5. The Pol-Mil 1/3 moves from USSR-3 to US-2.

I will then pass and it's Bob to play his next card.
383 9/5/2019 6:09:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message no debate from Churchill

382 9/5/2019 6:07:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Voronov moves 1/3 Pol-Mil from middle to 3 Sov space.

Was tempted to use it on UK directed offensive to get the OS marker but it would not have got the issue onto my track.
381 9/3/2019 7:01:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message No debate from the USA either. Back to Stalin for his next play.
380 9/3/2019 10:59:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message No debate of the UK Directed Offensive move from Stalin.
379 9/1/2019 4:08:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message Play Sr. Evill (not Dr. Evil...)

I'll use the Brit Offensive chit so card is now worth 4
378 9/1/2019 4:05:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message weird cad you just played- why would US want the card to be worth less than 5 or 6?

Expect perhaps to move the Strag. Material BACK to center of table so all get productions?
377 9/1/2019 4:02:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message No debate so I guess it's now my play?
376 9/1/2019 11:31:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message No debate of Hopkins. I'm tempted, but there's a danger of running down a hand to fast.
375 9/1/2019 11:31:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from USSR Stalin:
Thanks for remembering.

Kuznetsov terminated on a 1.
374 9/1/2019 11:00:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message I'll play Harry Hopkins, a 5, and move the Pol-Mil 2/2 from the centre of the table to the USA-5 space.

Any debate?

Paul, do you need to roll to see whether Kuznetsov gets shot?
373 9/1/2019 6:33:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Additionally a Naval marker goes in the arctic.

Stalin then passes so on to USA.

The UK card is still face down?
372 9/1/2019 6:31:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Stalin will Nyet with Kuznetsov. He is a 4 and the Nyet +1 takes the A-Bomb back to the brink of the 6 space. It isn't enough to put the issue in the bag though.
371 8/31/2019 7:39:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message No debate from the USA
370 8/31/2019 7:10:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message sir Henry Wilson - a 2 normally but stopping Soviet spy
activity makes it a 5 so back to Soviet 1 for the Atom bomb marker
369 8/30/2019 1:49:00 PM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Agreed.

The cards are the heart of the game (or that is what I increasingly think). I had focused on the fronts and pol/mil aspects, but think I should give more thought to the cards.

No nyet from Stalin so on to UK to advance an issue.
368 8/29/2019 6:03:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message And I've just checked the rules, 5.24 talks about debating and the final sentence says "The debating player then moves the issue as if he were advancing it (see 5.22) and implements his staff cardís attributes."

367 8/29/2019 6:00:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message That's how I understand it. You are playing the card so the effects happen - if the wording of the effect refers to advancing or debating then I guess it might be restricted to one or the other, but the Knox card says "if Production issue..." so I think I'd get the bonus even if I'd debated someone else advancing the issue.

Paul, what do you think?
366 8/29/2019 5:53:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message > If you or Paul then debate my play you are playing another card (and might trigger effects from that card).

Really, the events on a card I debate with could be used?
365 8/29/2019 5:47:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message The extra naval markers stay in the game even if one of you debates the play. I played Knox on a production issue, which is what brings those extra markers onto the board. If you or Paul then debate my play you are playing another card (and might trigger effects from that card). That debate card will change where the marker ends up, but I still played Knox an a production issue and I still get the markers.

When I chose my issues for debate I actually wrote that I was choosing the USSR Production issue, then found that there wasn't one...I wasn't about to put my own production up for grabs so it had to be the UK one. I don't really care if it gets debated, I just wanted the extra naval support.
364 8/29/2019 5:34:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message So if the item is debated (I keep forgetting) does the
event (like the naval extra placement) also cancel out or just the ' final ' placement of the placed marker on the conference wheel is altered?
363 8/29/2019 5:33:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message NO DEBATE - how about A NYET from Stalin?
362 8/28/2019 6:14:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message I'll play Frank Knox, a 5, and move the UK Production issue to the USA-5 space. Because it's a Production issue, I now get two naval markers to place later in the turn. (This was my only reason for picking the UK Production issue).

Round to Bob and Paul to decide whether or not to debate.
361 8/28/2019 6:09:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message Me to play then. Iíve got a very busy day just starting - I have 4 hours to get a whole lot done - so Iíll make a move late afternoon or early evening today.
360 8/28/2019 5:52:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message NO DEBATE
359 8/28/2019 3:32:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Once.

UK to debate A-Bomb?
358 8/28/2019 3:31:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Second Front: agreed that things are much easier for a Soviet advance once the Western Allies have landed as forces are deployed against them. Then things become a race for Berlin.

Leaders: they are 7s. That's powerful. The next strongest cards are your 5s and the * card if it rolls well (so up to a 6 with luck).

If you are using one to advance an issue that is in the middle or somewhere on your side of the track you are taunting someone to counter it where they will still leave it on your side unless they play their leader (and even that only leaves it in the middle). So especially once you are in the final few cards, a leader probably wins you an issue (or makes it a double card play to get to where you would rather it was).

Discard a 1 or 2 value card as you play a leader and there's a good return. However, one used he's used and he might have health issues.
357 8/27/2019 5:07:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message USA will not debate the USSR play, round to Bob for his decision.

I note the difficulty of advancing due to the Eastern Horde, but I would suggest that the best way to overcome this is to help with advancing the Western Front because the Eastern Horde doesn't apply once we're in Normandy. Winnie is probably still refighting Gallipoli in his mind, but if I win the Theatre Leadership issues I'll be putting the effort into preparing for D-Day and making sure there's enough naval support in the Arctic to keep the convoys flowing.
356 8/27/2019 4:56:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message As I understand it...

In order to use your Leader card in the conference you must always discard a staff card (see 3.31).

If you use your Leader to advance an issue then your play *can* be debated, but only by another Leader (see 4.22, last sentence of second paragraph)

If you choose to debate then you have the option to pass on your next turn to play a card, but *only* on that next turn - you can't save a pass for a later turn (see 4.22, paragraph three talks about this). If you don't pass then you may run out of cards before other players do.

You can't use your Leader in the Agenda Segment (see 5.13, third paragraph), except to break a tie if two of us reveal cards of the same value (see 4.5).

If you use your Leader for any reason, he then becomes Inactive and can't be used again for the remainder of the conference.
355 8/27/2019 4:12:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message Not sure why use leader/card in debate unless it's a horrid card you don't want event to happen (not familiar enough with all the cards)
354 8/27/2019 4:11:00 PM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message Just so I get this straight:

If I use the LEADER for debate it's just like using a
card for debate - I still have to discard a member card anyway.

If I use just a card for debate (or leader/card) I then have to pass the next turn? Or can I continue to play cards but realize sometime I'll have to pass as I'll be out of cards before other?

If I use Leader on conference NOBODY can debate but I also have to use a card (discard) - (and pass the next turn?) and then Leader is OUT of conference cycle for rest of the round?
353 8/27/2019 6:47:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Beria A Bomb 3+3 with possible consequences. Next Soviet card played faces execution on a roll of 1.
352 8/27/2019 6:43:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Stalin now advances the first issue.
351 8/27/2019 5:42:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message strategic material and Pacific theater hoping to get them both for more offensive power - Uncle Joe, if you help me on this I'll throw some forces on the Don River
350 8/27/2019 4:06:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Eastern Horde: 4th point down in the Europe box. The 2nd point has already put a German reserve in the Soviets' way. Then this puts another four. So that's an equivalent of a 10 drm that is a challenge to overcome.

Bob/UK has two more issues to choose.
349 8/27/2019 4:02:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message >As far as I can tell, the only issues that bring actual new resources into the game are Strategic Materials and the two Theatre Leadership ones. The Production and Directed Offensive issues just change who has control of the resources.

Agreed. The Theatre leadership ones could be used in a double act swap by the Western Allies.
348 8/26/2019 10:09:00 AM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message USA picks Global and UK Production issues for debate.

I'm assuming that Paul has cards that get an advantage on Pol-Mil issues, that's what happened with me.

As far as I can tell, the only issues that bring actual new resources into the game are Strategic Materials and the two Theatre Leadership ones. The Production and Directed Offensive issues just change who has control of the resources.

From this side of the table, it seems that Paul would do better to spend some production helping us to get things moving with the Battle of the Atlantic and D-Day. Either that or we should think about debating a USSR Directed Offensive...
347 8/25/2019 7:51:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message Not nit-picking but just wondering?

Other than points - how did your picks help the overal Soviet Military situation?

Strategic Material, US or Brit production, Soviet Directed offensive or second front would all help you with offensive markers - or did you feel that no matter what, until we move on Normandy you will NOT win anything in the east?
346 8/25/2019 3:33:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message I've placed Pol-Mil 1/3 and 2/2 and moved Bob's European Theatre leadership to 3 on the UK track. Am naming the file with a C03 prefix...
345 8/23/2019 11:59:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message UK direct off. and A-Bomb already on the table

I'll place the Euro Front Control marker on the table
then place move as you said towards Churchill chair.

I'm at work so You can continue - I just can not sent a map.

I'll get to do my LAST 2 choices after US goes.
344 8/23/2019 11:54:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Mine was a 2: Voznesensky. Bevin wins the stage for the UK and will place an initial issue.

As the Soviet card was the weakest, Bob gets to place 5 - 2 = 3 spaces on the track towards Churchill. Then I select two issues.
343 8/23/2019 5:37:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message I'll play Bevin a 5 card
342 8/22/2019 6:44:00 PM Turn 3 US Roosevelt Message Cards reshuffled and a new hand drawn. I have played and revealed Francis Biddle, a 3, for the Agenda Segment.
341 8/21/2019 6:46:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Sending file. Despite thinking I had rounded them all up, I dealt cards before reshuffling (odd numbered conferences have a reshuffle).

Before drawing your 7 cards using the rectangular button be sure to RIGHT CLICK on the staff discards pile to refresh the deck. The idea is that while some cards die off you tend to have 2/3 of your characters in play across two conferences.
340 8/21/2019 6:39:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Yugoslavia has no marker in it so the Partisan Dispute does not apply.
339 8/21/2019 6:37:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from USSR Stalin:
Murmansk Convoy on 1-3.
338 8/21/2019 6:33:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message TL will give offensive power but US has moved on Asian colonies. Being anti-colonial...
337 8/21/2019 6:32:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Edit Current Conference / Version USSR Stalin: from Washington A. Stalin in Moscow. No advance issue. to Quadrant A
US Roosevelt: from US Prod Issue on table. to Groves: A Bomb issue. Sicily.
UK Churchill: from Must use 1 Prod in Med. to Disagrees: UK directed offensive. Sicily.
336 8/21/2019 6:30:00 AM Turn 3 UK Churchill Message So Churchill took a dive even after being Theater leader?
335 8/21/2019 6:28:00 AM Turn 3 USSR Stalin Message Next Conference is Quebec QUADRANT A.
334 8/21/2019 6:27:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin End Turn
333 8/21/2019 6:24:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin Edit VPs USSR Stalin: from 14 to 28
US Roosevelt: from 6 to 13
UK Churchill: from 12 to 7
332 8/21/2019 6:23:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin Message VPs: US is doing well in the country/colony stakes, but the USSR is making the running by winning the conference, developing the spy ring and having global issues in its favour.
331 8/21/2019 6:19:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin Edit Conferences Won USSR Stalin: from 0 to 1
US Roosevelt: from 1 to 1
UK Churchill: from 0 to 0
330 8/21/2019 5:51:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin Message This brings the conference to an end. I'll do a VP tally once the plumber we have in at the moment has gone. It's ONE OF THOSE TIMES. He shook my hand (his is twice the size of mine). He told me the stop cock on the water mains supply is locked solid. I reached down and it turned easily...
329 8/21/2019 5:48:00 AM Turn 2 UK Churchill Message so now we're done except for scores right?

Then we move on to next conference?
328 8/21/2019 5:48:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

6


Message from USSR Stalin:
Nomohon?
327 8/21/2019 5:48:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin Message As you say, there can't be much of an advance from the east unless Russia has the power and is not facing so many German reserves. It achieves this by the Western Allies opening a second front.

The only thing you missed was the Soviet Far East roll. The front can advance as it is trying to get to Nomohon not Manchuria. Once it gets to Nomohon it can't go further without a declaration of war against Japan. As there is no support and no opposition this advance succeeeds on base a 1-2.
326 8/21/2019 5:39:00 AM Turn 2 USSR Stalin Message >Now this is weird - we have 4 naval in SW and only
2 in Central - I'm going to assume this is mistake as No card required this and extra Navy in SW does nothing.

No it was correct. Central went down to 2 due to the Japanese fleet sortie.

Three naval markers are needed for an advance to be possible into an amphibious space (with an anchor). As the Japanese fleet, while it has the blocks, can knock out one naval marker the Americans can cover themselves by having four naval markers [lose one and still roll for advance]. As it was the Americans guessed wrong when placing one extra naval marker and Central Pacific was hit.
325 8/19/2019 6:13:00 AM Turn 2 UK Churchill Message That should be the end of the military.

What did we learn from this?

1) need MASSIVE forces on a front - especially in Russia

2) need to make sure we have enough Naval (especially if we can get a possible breakthrough)

3) Need to put some Offensive Markers in Europe

4) ROLL BETTER.....
324 8/19/2019 6:10:00 AM Turn 2 UK Churchill Message Central P

Base of 2

Navy -3 as required

Offensive support NONE

Axis forces - 3 so MINUS 6

Guess it doesn't matter as the modifier is a negative # anyway so no front advance.
323 8/19/2019 6:07:00 AM Turn 2 UK Churchill Message Last Front - Central Pacific -
Now this is weird - we have 4 naval in SW and only
2 in Central - I'm going to assume this is mistake as No card required this and extra Navy in SW does nothing.

I'll apply and if we have to walk back so be it.

322 8/19/2019 6:05:00 AM Turn 2 UK Churchill Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

2


Message from UK Churchill:
SouthWest Pacific

Base of 2

Navy -There are 4 so requirement met

Offensive support - 3 so X 2 total of 6

Axis forces - ONE so MINUS 2

So a roll of 10 with modifier of 6
So we need a 6 or less
321 8/19/2019 6:02:00 AM Turn 2 UK Churchill Message Far East can not advance
The Soviet Far East Front may not advance
into the Manchuria space unless the USSR Declares War on
Japan issue ended in the center of the table in this conference.
Once the Far Eastern Front has entered Manchuria this
restriction is removed for the remainder of the game.

CHINA/BURMA

Base of 2

Navy -NA here as not amphib space

Offensive support - 4 so X 2 total of 8

Axis forces - NONE -

So a roll of 10 with modifier of 10

7.74 Breakthrough
If a Frontís modified strength is 10 or greater and the Front advance
die roll is a modified 10 or higher, a breakthrough occurs
and the Front advances two spaces, so long as the second space
is a land space, not an amphibious space; otherwise it advances
only one space.
320 8/19/2019 5:57:00 AM Turn 2 UK Churchill Message front advanced in MED

Eastern Europe

Base of 2

Navy - NA for this one

Offensive support - 5 X 2 so 10

Axis forces - 6 so 12

So a roll of 10 with modifier of 0

Front can not advance - NO ROLL

2. If a Front has a modified strength of zero or less, it automatically fails to advance.

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