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280 6/11/2019 6:39:00 PM Master ID = 13168 Game Deleted
279 6/11/2019 6:39:00 PM 1807-1808 Moderator Message Ok

result posted
278 6/10/2019 12:04:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message OK - sorry to hear that, and apologies again for messing up in a way that caused so much grief. I hope you enjoy the rest of the tournament.
277 6/10/2019 11:50:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message I reported my resignation to the GM just after posting it here. I have no interest in continuing.
276 6/10/2019 8:38:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Keith - FYI, I still haven't reported anything about our game to the GM. If you want to continue, I'd enjoy and appreciate the chance to do so, but if you've still had enough, let me know and we can call it quits at this stage.
275 6/4/2019 11:30:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Just thought I'd check in and see how you're doing with respect to our game. Still reluctant to continue?
274 6/1/2019 6:24:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message If you want to resign because you don't like your position in the game, that's fair enough. But if it's really just my error and the way the cards fell that's bugging you, I'd ask you to take a day or two off from the game and see if you feel differently after taking a step back. (My error just as easily could have had a negative effect on me as a positive one; I obviously had no idea what cards were in Prussia's hand when I messed that up.)

I really do apologize again for what has happened this turn, not just with the Prussian error but with all of the rules silliness - none of which has been particularly fun for me either.
273 6/1/2019 5:49:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message I am a little annoyed that you have profited so much from your error.

I resign.
272 6/1/2019 5:12:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Turkey (using the +1 CP marker) builds 2U - now Yusuf + 10U in Constantinople.

Spain is now up.
271 6/1/2019 5:11:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Turkey: Play random Strategy card #23: 3 / Twelve-Pounders

Message from Britain:
French preempt is now not an option, so here's the Turkish play:
270 6/1/2019 5:10:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
Prussian subsidy
269 6/1/2019 5:10:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Russia: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
Russian subsidy
268 6/1/2019 5:09:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Austria: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
Austrian subsidy
267 6/1/2019 5:09:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Play Strategy card as Event #72: 6 / British Subsidies
Up to three nations of your choice in the Coalition Camp (excluding Britain) draw a card unless Britain is a Subject Neutral.

Message from Britain:
Austria, Russia and Prussia each draw another card.
266 6/1/2019 5:09:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Play Strategy card as Operations #906: 6 / Raise the Landwehr
Place three Units and a Leader in any Friendly Prussian Home Duchy. The event (only) cannot be used on Turn 1: the 6 CPs and the "+" capability are usable on Turn 1. RESERVE

Message from Britain:
Prussia has 6 CPs:

1-3) Blucher + 6U from Berlin to Munster. (Bulow + 6U remain in Berlin.)
4-5) Flag Brussels and Nassau.
6) Bulow + 4U from Brussels to Leipzig. (2U remain in Berlin.)

I'll also use the + to play another card...
265 6/1/2019 7:04:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message no preempt
264 6/1/2019 7:02:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message All set - again, sorry about all that!

(Just awaiting your decision whether or not to preempt Prussia.)
263 6/1/2019 7:01:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
262 6/1/2019 7:01:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
261 6/1/2019 7:01:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Play Strategy card as Operations #97: 3 / Hero
After seeing all Battle dice, select any one leader (with the owner's consent) who has not already been eliminated by a 6 to roll two dice to alter the battle outcome thus: 6 - eliminated enemy Unit, 5 - disrupt enemy Unit, 4 - rally friendly Unit, 1 - eliminate that leader, Doubles - may also void Rout.

Message from Britain:
260 6/1/2019 7:01:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Play Strategy card as Operations #36: 3 / Cuiraissers Charge
Roll a die after any won battle and convert up to that number of "5" disrupt results into kills (6's). Voided by the Form Square event.

Message from Britain:
I've been given both of the same two cards for Prussia that you saw, so I guess I'll need to discard them both and draw two new ones.
259 6/1/2019 6:55:00 AM 1807-1808 France Prussia: Change Nation Owner to Britain Message from France:
258 6/1/2019 6:54:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Hero and Cuiraissers Charge
257 5/31/2019 3:35:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message It should be replaced with new cards automatically, but if you tell me which cards are in their hand in the first place, I'll know whether I need to discard the hand and draw it again. (Or alternatively, you can just play both cards from the Prussian hand to the discard pile, and after you switch control back to me, I can draw two fresh ones that way...that might be simpler and more transparent, actually.)

Apologies again for messing this up - I'm quite a bit overtired, clearly!
256 5/31/2019 2:51:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message What happens to the Prussian hand when I switch it back?
255 5/31/2019 1:01:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Ugh...I'm such an idiot. (Was thinking of my other still ongoing game!) :( If you can let me know the two cards in Prussia's hand and then transfer Prussia across to British control, that'd be appreciated.
254 5/31/2019 1:00:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Change Nation Owner to France Message from Britain:
Taking control of Prussia - will wait for your Preemption decision (whenever it comes) before doing anything.
253 5/31/2019 12:33:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Isn't it to your benefit that I ignore the real threat? :)

I don't have Metternich, so you have your Pact. I have to think about preempting Prussia. I don't have my map here at Work (or the time to really consider it), so an answer will have to wait until tonight when I get home.
252 5/31/2019 11:56:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Can't you just stop focusing on the Brits and Swedes and worry instead about the Austrians, Russians and possibly Prussians instead? :)

Britain's last maneuver is forfeit, I guess - nothing else I want to do with it.

So...Metternich?
251 5/31/2019 11:53:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message There is a slight problem with the British move. You may only remove a refit marker in an Impulse or Interphase subsequent to the Impulse in which it was placed (13.11).
250 5/31/2019 11:24:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Whether or not you use Metternich, btw, France now has the ability to preempt Prussia if desired.
249 5/31/2019 11:22:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Russia: Play Strategy card as Event #53: 6 / Royal Wedding
Move any Consul two boxes on Diplomatic Track. Not applicable to Turkish Consul. May break Pact status. Not playable in 1805.

Message from Britain:
Russia plays this as the event to move Prussia to Austrian Pact.

Metternich?
248 5/31/2019 11:22:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #7: 4 / Minor Forces
Place two Units of an Associate Duchy in that Duchy. They attack any non-friendly Formations present without evasion and before any interception is attempted.

Message from Britain:
Austria has 4 CPs:

1-4) Prussia to Austrian Aide.

Russia next...
247 5/31/2019 11:20:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Last 1.5 British CPs:

4.0-4.5) Bring sqd out of Regroup, put into Cornwall.
5.0) Remove Refit marker from sqd in Cornwall.

So Cornwall now contains 2 sqds (1 under Naval Build), and Moore + 3U.

To Austria.
246 5/31/2019 11:17:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain End Foreign War #40: 5 / Anglo-Turkish War

Message from Britain:
Gone
245 5/31/2019 10:28:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message no Foreign Aid
244 5/31/2019 10:23:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Hooray - now the Anglo-Turkish War is finally ended for real! (Unless you have the Foreign Aid card and want to play it...I guess I ought to check on that before continuing.)
243 5/31/2019 10:19:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

2
6
3


Message from Britain:
Pretty much everything about what has happened (or I thought was going to happen) in and around the Bay of Biscay this turn has disgusted me. ;)

I've got 3.5 CPs left; I'll spend 3 of them to try and end the Anglo-Turkish war (same rules regarding the dice as before):
242 5/31/2019 10:02:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message The stout Spaniards slip into Brest!
241 5/31/2019 10:01:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 11

2
5
3
3
4
2
4
3
3
2
2


Message from France:
Battle - last die is the Spaniards
240 5/31/2019 10:00:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
2


Message from France:
evade
239 5/31/2019 3:30:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Success that time - evade? (No cards from me if we fight, whether straight up or after a failed evasion, so you can roll up the battle.)
238 5/31/2019 3:29:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
3


Message from Britain:
Nope. So:

1.5) Patrol BoB
237 5/31/2019 3:29:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1


Message from Britain:
Not that I expected you would want to do that, but I can now proceed without any worries in that regard. (By the way, I still have 1 sqd in The Channel, and now 3 sqds in BoB.) Next:

1.0) Patrol BoB
236 5/31/2019 3:28:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
2


Message from Britain:
Hypothetical Spanish interception:
235 5/31/2019 3:28:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #16: 5 / Conscripts
A leader of your choice is given two more Units of its nationality - even during battle. The added Units may exceed the Commander's Command Rating even if it is moved into the battle. Afterwards those Units would be subject to normal command restrictions. Can be played even AFTER seeing all battle dice for two extra die rolls in that battle.

Message from Britain:
Right...let's get Britain on the road to recovery, hopefully:

0.5) 1 sqd from The Channel to Bay of Biscay.

I'll roll a potential Spanish interception for you, just in case...
234 5/30/2019 11:13:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #905: 6 / Guerre de Course
One or two unblockaded (not Refitting) French Squadrons move Offboard to raid commerce. See Offboard Fleets on the Battleground display. British card losses never include Reserves or exceed Minimum Hand limits in the Interphase, but may include Resources. RESERVE

Message from France:
1 - Davout/4 from Salzburg to Linz
2/3 - Davout/6 from Linz to Wurttemburg (CUx6 remain in Linz with Nappy)
4/5 - build a CU in Genoa
6 - CU from Marseilles to Genoa (now Massena/8)

Brits are up
233 5/30/2019 11:07:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from France:
replacement for CoD
232 5/30/2019 11:06:00 PM 1807-1808 France Spain: Give Strategy card to France Message from France:
231 5/30/2019 11:06:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message That didn't work. France didn't get a card.

Spain only had one card, so I am just going to move it manually.
230 5/30/2019 11:04:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Swap random Strategy card with Spain Message from France:
229 5/30/2019 11:01:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Event #85: 4 / Council of Dresden
Exchange a random card from your hand with a randomly drawn card from any allied or Neutral nation with a remaining card(s) or from the deck. Then draw a card from the deck.

Message from France:
228 5/30/2019 11:00:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message In your defense, that one was an issue with ACTS. For some reason the card text on Proxy Red Card plays does not show up.
227 5/30/2019 8:38:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I'm doing really well with the rules, aren't I? :)
226 5/30/2019 8:05:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Per the card text for Russian Winter, the event does not get played since there are no enemy forces in Russia.

Therefore Denmark builds a CU and banks a CP (now CUx5 and a +1 CP marker).
225 5/30/2019 5:10:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Oh well. Swedish sqd to Dublin; last CP:

5) Flag Milan.

To France (finally).
224 5/30/2019 4:46:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Swedes lose
223 5/30/2019 4:46:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

4
3
5


Message from France:
Round 2. First 2 dice are the Swedes.
222 5/30/2019 4:45:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from France:
ooops, here is the Spanish die
221 5/30/2019 4:44:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4


Message from France:
I'll fight. First 2 dice are the Swedes.
220 5/30/2019 4:02:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message That's nice. Will the Spanish run, or stay and fight? (No BCs from me - you can resolve if you want to fight, or if you try to evade and fail.)
219 5/30/2019 4:01:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
5


Message from Britain:
3.5) Patrol BoB
218 5/30/2019 4:01:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Well, now that this game is getting all boring ;), I guess I'll just use Sweden's 5 CPs as follows:

1-3) Move 1 sqd from Stockholm to Bay of Biscay.
3.5) 1 sqd Patrols for the Spanish sqd on its own.

That's legal, I hope? :)
217 5/30/2019 10:09:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Sigh...yes, we need another ruling. I've just cc:ed you on another email to Gareth et al.
216 5/30/2019 9:57:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Sorry, you are misreading 8.2. Here is the exact wording: "During the Proxy’s Impulse, a Patron can use his allied Proxy’s cards to negatively impact the
Diplomatic Track, to end its own Foreign Wars, to build/move its pieces, or as events."

That only means Sweden could use its CPs to end a Foreign War that it is fighting. By your reasoning, Sweden could also move or build British forces with its CPs.

Besides, 7.6 makes no allowance for a nation ending another nation's Foreign War, only its own.

Do we need to get another GM ruling?
215 5/29/2019 7:41:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message OK...well, the Russian Winter Timed Event is now in effect, for whatever that is worth. (And Denmark does nothing.)

France is up.
214 5/29/2019 7:39:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Denmark: Play random Strategy card #49: 3 / Russian Winter

RED: Must be played as Event

Message from Britain:
Danish card play:
213 5/29/2019 7:39:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message That didn't work so well - Letters of Marque remains active. (Still, probably about average, on the whole.)

I'll play the Danish card, and then France will be up.
212 5/29/2019 7:38:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

2
5
5
4


Message from Britain:
That worked out very well - the Anglo-Turkish War ended after a single CP. So I guess Sweden will keep trying and will look to end the Letters of Marque FWC...again, the same procedure applies, ignoring any rolls after the first 6 (if there is one):
211 5/29/2019 7:36:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 5

6
3
2
2
2


Message from Britain:
Sweden has 5 CPs available, so I'll roll that many dice to try and end the Anglo-Turkish War - as soon as a 6 is rolled, if indeed a 6 is rolled at all, the rest of the rolls are moot:
210 5/29/2019 7:35:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message (Sorry - under rule 8.2, not rule 6.2!)
209 5/29/2019 7:35:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message OK, after receiving Gareth's and Daniel's emails on the subject, I'll concede that the Swedes cannot command the Brits at sea, and as such the Swedish squadron returns to Stockholm. Instead, I'll now spend some CPs to try and end the Anglo-Turkish War - which definitely *is* permissible, under rule 6.2. :)
208 5/29/2019 12:19:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Sure, no problem. I was thinking that if we went back to the British impulse and I patrolled BoB and managed to kill the Spanish squadron or send it back to port, then you could use the last Spanish CP to try to send another Spanish sqd out to sea if you wished (instead of knocking the Turkish Consul back down). But I suppose if Spain were to somehow win the 6 v 1 - or more likely, after a failed evasion, 7 v 1 - battle, that would send the space-time continuum out of kilter!
207 5/29/2019 12:12:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message No problem. These rules are annoyingly vague at times. Please feel free to redo the Swedish Impulse if the ruling is in my favor.

I was wondering why you didn't use the CP from Parliament to try to hunt down the Spanish SQ. Unfortunately, that is too far to back track I think.
206 5/29/2019 12:04:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message No worries - I've just responded with the logic behind my interpretation. To be honest, I'm not 100% sure I actually like the idea of, say, Spanish squadrons leading French squadrons, but I do think the rules point in that direction...

Anyway, if the Swedish squadron isn't allowed to lead the British, hopefully you'd be OK for me to go back and restart my Swedish impulse? (I might have spent my British CP from Parliament differently as well - patrolling BoB to try and eradicate the Spanish rather than moving my Sussex sqd out to sea - but perhaps that's too far back for us to go?)
205 5/29/2019 10:49:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message I just sent him an email and copied you.
204 5/29/2019 10:40:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message I don't believe that is legal. I don't want to argue over these poorly written rules. Let's just get a GM ruling.
203 5/29/2019 2:52:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Patrol is successful (because my Fleet is more than 50% British) - will the Spanish sqd try to evade? If it tries and is successful (on a 9+), I'll keep trying to patrol until the Swedes run out of Maneuvers; if we battle, you can resolve, as I won't have any BCs to use. (Battle odds are of course 11 v 1 in my favor as things stand.)
202 5/29/2019 2:50:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4


Message from Britain:
3.5) Patrol BoB:
201 5/29/2019 2:50:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Sweden: Play Strategy card as Operations #73: 5 / Russo-Turkish War
Roll three dice. The Russian transfers a leader plus Units equal to the least of the three rolls to this Foreign War card. Another Unit draft is rolled and filled from the Turn's Reinforcements - or elsewhere - in each Interphase until the War ends. Void if Turkey is Client of Russian Camp.

Message from Britain:
5 CPs for Sweden...I believe this is legal:

0.5-2.5) 1 sqd from Stockholm to The Channel.
3.0) 1 Sw sqd + 1 Br sqd from The Channel to Bay of Biscay. (1 Br sqd left behind in The Channel; now 3 Br sqd and 1 Sw sqd in the Bay of Biscay.)
3.5) Patrol the Bay of Biscay.

(I don't think I've ever actually used Minor Maneuvers to move and patrol Power squadrons before, but I think this works - 13.1 seems pretty clear that all squadrons of a Pact and its Minor Allies always operate together as a single Fleet, with no mention of whether it's the Minor Ally paying the MPs for the operations in question. So I guess they're rather unlike Armies in this regard!)
200 5/28/2019 9:00:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message with the second Spanish CP I will flip the Turkish Consul back to its normal side

the Swedes are next
199 5/28/2019 8:53:00 PM 1807-1808 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Event #47: 3 / Sappers & Pioneers
Add or subtract one "6" to/from any Siege assault or defense after seeing the Siege dice rolls.

Message from France:
Lisbon falls
198 5/28/2019 8:52:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

5
4
6
3
5
4


Message from France:
siege roll (first 4 dice are for Spain)
197 5/28/2019 8:50:00 PM 1807-1808 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Operations #56: 2 / Platov's Cossacks
If an invading Force is in a Russian Home Duchy, all enemy Forces in or adjacent to Kiev suffer Attrition. Then, place two Russian Units in or adjacent to Kiev which cannot be intercepted or evaded during that placement.

Message from France:
1 - Castanos/4 to Lisbon
196 5/28/2019 7:54:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Thanks - that's pretty comprehensive. :)
195 5/28/2019 7:52:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message None of your Powers may gain Client status with Turkey while the A-T War is in effect. See the first sentence of 8.4 after the comma.
194 5/28/2019 7:06:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message So Turkey plays an odd-numbered card, meaning I have to send another British Formation to the Anglo-Turkish War - I'll take the unit currently in Lisbon. So now 1 sqd + 3U on that Foreign War Card. Meanwhile, Turkey builds 1U in Constantinople with her 2 remaining CPs - now Yusuf + 8U and the +1 CP marker there.

Incidentally, my assumption all along has been that simply bumping Turkey up to Coalition Client status won't end the Anglo-Turkish War - being a Client only prevents the card from being played as the event. Is that your understanding as well? (Because if it isn't...well, I probably would have played Frigates for 3 CPs to move the Turkish Consul to Russian Friend status!)

Anyway, Spain is now up.
193 5/28/2019 7:00:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Turkey: Play random Strategy card #86: 3 / Patriotic Fervor

Message from Britain:
Turkish card play:
192 5/28/2019 6:59:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Prussia builds Blucher - now Blucher + Bulow + 12U (and a +1 CP marker) in Berlin.
191 5/28/2019 6:58:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Prussia: Play random Strategy card #20: 6 / Rally!

Message from Britain:
Prussian card play:
190 5/28/2019 6:58:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Russia: Play Strategy card as Event #100: 3 / Frigates
Place a Squadron of any nation in a Zone of that's nation's controlled Port by placing this card in that Zone with a Flag. If blockaded, interception can be attempted. Thereafter, it is treated as a normal Squadron of that nationality except that it has no dice in combat. It is removed and the card returned to the deck when sunk or returned to Port. A Prussian/Austrian Squadron has an evasion dice roll modifier of 0.

Message from Britain:
Hmmm...I guess Russia will play this as the event to place a British Frigate in the South Atlantic. Hopefully that will slow down the forthcoming siege of Lisbon!

I'll do Prussia and Turkey presently before you move on to Spain (as France no longer has the Preempt).
189 5/28/2019 6:22:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Russia: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
HMR #2
188 5/28/2019 6:21:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Russia: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
HMR #1
187 5/28/2019 6:21:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Russia: Play Strategy card as Event #907: 6 / Holy Mother Russia
If Russia is not a Subject Neutral or in a Foreign War AND no enemy Forces are in a Russian Home Duchy: • draw two cards and play one of them, OR • Roll a die and gain a Resource if you roll less than the current Turn number. Otherwise, build Units equal to the roll. RESERVE

Message from Britain:
OK, then I think you know what's coming next - HMR as the event, Russia to draw two more cards and play one.
186 5/28/2019 6:12:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message no preempt
185 5/28/2019 4:32:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message OK, Austria is done for now. Will France preempt Russia?
184 5/28/2019 3:35:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message success

after losing 13 French CUs killed last turn I guess I am a little skittish
183 5/28/2019 3:31:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
6


Message from France:
evade to Genoa
182 5/28/2019 1:13:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Really surprised by that decision...continuing:

3) Unflag Venice.
4-5) Charles + A6U + Gustavus + Sw4U from Venice to Milan.

Evade?
181 5/28/2019 12:44:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message no intercept

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