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652 11/19/2019 10:25:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Thanks for playing James.

The next ladder round is starting in a few days. Are you interested in playing?

If so post a reply at: https://hrctourney.wordpress.com/ladder/rd2/
651 11/17/2019 7:38:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message ok, in that case, I will resign as I don't have other cards to break the Truce.

good luck in the tournament.
650 11/17/2019 4:44:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message You'll have to change that last move as in conferring with the co-GM and from previous precedence at WBC, you cannot play Surprise Sortie against yourself.
649 11/15/2019 6:56:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message No sweat. As you are the GM, I will abide by whatever ruling you decide.
648 11/15/2019 10:02:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Although Storms at Sea does not break a truce, the parallel was that you can't play a card against yourself.

The Syracuse situation is different which reflects a specific historic political event and is anyways an optional rule.

I'll ask Mark Simonitch to weigh in and have also posted this on the Hannibal BGG entry.
647 11/14/2019 10:04:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message For the sake of argument (and future reference), where in the rule does it say that Surprise Sortie cannot be used to break Truce, that it must be played against enemy siege points? The card says played by either player to remove 1 siege point.

I remember an optional rule that Syracuse card must be played by either player. So it's possible to play a card for the other player's benefit.
646 11/14/2019 9:58:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message While I respect Stu Tucker, I don't always agree with his ruling. i.e. His ruling on Battle Card interception in Hannibal is different than what most people would have thought as every other CDG would give you a +1 in battle if intercepted. But he said no, unless it causes a battle. As he is the GM at WBC, most of us relented.
645 11/14/2019 9:53:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message Storms at Sea is not listed as a card to break Truce. There is a list at the end of the 2nd ed rule.
644 11/14/2019 2:02:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message We can post on CSW and BGG and see if there is consensus otherwise.

I see this as similar to any other card that can only be played for the benefit of the active player thus you can't play storms at sea against yourself either.
643 11/14/2019 1:45:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message while I kind of agree with that, I don't see it stated in the 2nd Ed Rulebook... at the end of the Rule, the card list shows Siege is one of the cards that can break a Truce.
642 11/14/2019 7:49:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Stuart the WBC GM says you cannot play it as an event on your own siege, so please do something else.
641 11/13/2019 11:38:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message I checked the FAQ file and didn't see anything that says you can't.
640 11/13/2019 8:35:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Can you do that as an event and remove your own siege points?
639 11/12/2019 11:19:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #17: 1 / Surprise Sortie
(Both) Remove 1 Siege Point from any one Walled City

Message from Rome:
remove 1 pt from Syracuse...
Truce ended.
638 11/11/2019 2:38:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #13: 2 / Bruttium Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Lucania

Message from Carthage:
PCs in Corduba and Numantia
637 11/10/2019 11:36:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #56: 2 / Grain Shortage
(Carthage) Remove any three Roman non-walled PCs. You may only play this card if you control Sicilia.

Message from Rome:
pc in Salmantica, Arsa.
636 11/10/2019 11:33:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message no, adding troops is legal.
635 11/9/2019 8:45:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #46: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Samnium)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if SAMNIUM is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:
I do not believe this breaks the truce by raising troops.

If it does, I will do something different

Add 1 CU to Hanno (n10)
634 11/9/2019 7:42:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #28: 2 / Hannibal Charms Italy
(Carthage) If you play this as an OC to move Hannibal, you may remove each Roman non-walled PC in each space in Italy that Hannibal enters which does not contain any Roman CUs.

Message from Rome:
pc in Zuccabar, Vescera (W Numidia)
633 11/8/2019 8:24:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Rome can go first
632 11/8/2019 8:23:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

631 11/8/2019 8:23:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message OK
+3 CUs with Hasdrubal (n7)
+1 CU with Hanno/mago (n9)
630 11/8/2019 6:48:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message see post 613....
everything else should be okay.

also uploaded the end of turn file.
629 11/8/2019 6:48:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message yes, I realized that Truce cannot be made to double back onto your pc... that is why I did a correction to just have Africanus and 10 cu move to Enna instead.
628 11/8/2019 4:14:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message You're going to have to revise that last move and in light of having drawn cards, that might be problematic.
627 11/8/2019 11:54:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message With Truce in effect, are you allowed to re-enter Syracuase after leaving the space as it is enemy controlled?
626 11/8/2019 1:52:00 AM 203-201 BC Rome Message no campaign.
625 11/8/2019 1:50:00 AM 203-201 BC Rome Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

624 11/8/2019 1:50:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome End Turn Deck was reshuffled.

623 11/8/2019 1:50:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Set Deck Reshuffle Deck will be reshuffled before next deal
622 11/8/2019 1:47:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message place Scipio in Rome,
Flaminus in Ariminum
621 11/8/2019 1:46:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Rome:
2nd Consul:
1=Scipio
2=Longus
3=Fabius
4=Nero
5=Varro
6=Paulus 
620 11/8/2019 1:45:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 7-sided die x 1

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Message from Rome:
1st Consul:
1=Scipio
2=Longus
3=Flaminus
4=Fabius
5=Nero
6=Varro
7=Paulus 
619 11/8/2019 1:44:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message Marcellus is proconsul. 

place 5 cu in Rome.
618 11/8/2019 1:41:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message province count is 10 Carthage to 8 Rome...
remove pc in Ariminum, Falerii.
617 11/8/2019 1:39:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message lose 1 cu... n5.
616 11/8/2019 1:38:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Rome:
attrition roll in Syracuse.
615 11/8/2019 1:37:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #24: 3 / Sophonsiba Seduces a Numidian Kin
(Carthage) Pick either Western or Eastern Numidia and place up to three Carthaginian PCs in that province in spaces which do not contain enemy CUs. If the space contains a Roman PC, the PC is simply flipped.

Message from Rome:
pc in Sassari, Tarquini, Pisae.
614 11/8/2019 1:35:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message 2nd move,
Fabius and 5 cu,
1. pick up 1 in Tarquini
2. pick up 1 in Rome
3-4. end in Ariminum [7]
613 11/8/2019 1:33:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message correction,
Africanus and 10 cu,
move to Enna.

612 11/8/2019 1:29:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #38: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Rome:
1st move;
Varro, Africanus, Marcellus and 10 cu,
1. drop Africanus and 5 cu in Enna
2. pick up 4 cu in Syracuse [2]
3. drop 4 in Enna [9]
4. end in Agrigentum [5]
611 11/8/2019 1:25:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message I was hoping you didn't have the Truce or I get to pull it from your hand... should have already got Syracuse, but rolled so poorly in the sieges.
610 11/7/2019 9:17:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #64: 2 / Truce
(Both) Neither player may enter a space containing an enemy CU or PC while the Truce lasts. The Truce ends when either player uses a Strategy Card as an event.

Message from Carthage:
609 11/7/2019 8:45:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message 2nd siege pt.
608 11/7/2019 8:44:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Rome:
siege Syracuse.
607 11/7/2019 8:44:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #48: 1 / Allied Auxiliaries (Campania)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if CAMPANIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Rome:
Varro to siege Syracuse.
606 11/7/2019 6:42:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #39: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
Hanno moves with 2 CU to Hippo R. and ends there with Mago, 8 CUS total

No second move
605 11/7/2019 5:57:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message no effect... now n16 in Syracuse.

loaded a file.
604 11/7/2019 5:48:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:
siege.
603 11/7/2019 5:48:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 3 / Carthaginian Siege Train
(Carthage) Place the Siege Train Marker with any Carthaginian General. A General with the Siege Train ignores the -1 die roll modifier applied against Carthaginian sieges.

Message from Rome:
Varro takes 5 cu from Cosa [5],
sail to Syracuse and siege.
602 11/7/2019 9:26:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #62: 2 / Force March (1 or 2 rating)
(Both) Move a General whose Strategy Rating is 1 or 2 up to six spaces.

Message from Carthage:
Are you posting a file to the dropbox, because nothing is showing up there that I see? I'm the only placing files for the last 5 moves for C2 through C6 of this turn.

As I've said the dropbox method is superior to emailing files back and forth.


CArthage PCs in Salaria, Balares
601 11/7/2019 3:50:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message lose 1 cu ... n11.
600 11/7/2019 3:49:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Rome:
siege
599 11/7/2019 3:49:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #60: 1 / Storms At Sea
(Both) Play after your opponent moves an Army or CUs using Sea Movement. The force suffers Attrition and the die roll must be modified by +2.

Message from Rome:
Africanus and co, siege Syracuse.
598 11/7/2019 3:48:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message I sent a file last nite...
since then, I sieged and you placed pc.
597 11/7/2019 1:50:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #53: 1 / Tribal Resistance
(Both) Remove any accrued Subjugation Points in any one Tribe space.

Message from Carthage:
PC in Billibis

Haven't seen a file from you in awhile. Is your syncing working on dropbox?
596 11/7/2019 1:46:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Give random Strategy card to Rome Message from Carthage:
595 11/6/2019 9:25:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #55: 3 / Messenger Intercepted
(Both) Draw one Strategy Card from your opponent's hand and add it to your own.

Message from Rome:
give me a good card.
594 11/6/2019 8:04:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #46: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Samnium)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if SAMNIUM is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:
1 CU with Hasdrubal (n4)
593 11/6/2019 5:52:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message 1 siege pt...
lose 1 cu ... now n12.
592 11/6/2019 5:51:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Rome:
siege
591 11/6/2019 5:51:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #11: 1 / Balearic Slingers
(Both) If you control the Balearic Islands, place one CU in any Port containing a friendly PC and no enemy CUs.

Message from Rome:
Africanus takes 8 cu,
1-2. pick up 2 in Panormous
3-4. back to siege Syracuse, n13.
590 11/6/2019 4:35:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #59: 1 / Ally Deserts
(Both) Draw one BC from your opponent's hand and add it to your own.

Message from Carthage:
PC Laminium
589 11/6/2019 3:04:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:
siege.
588 11/6/2019 3:04:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #58: 1 / Cato Counsels Rome
(Carthage) Roman CUs are prohibited from moving to Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled. This does not affect Roman CUs already there.

Message from Rome:
Africanus will siege Syracuse.
587 11/6/2019 3:03:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message already posted a file last nite... #105
586 11/6/2019 4:29:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #61: 1 / Force March (1 rating)
(Both) Move a General whose Strategy Rating is 1 up to six spaces.

Message from Carthage:
PC in Hispalis

Why don't you post a file when you get a chance?

I've played a lot of games and when both sides post files regularly, games go smoother.

Setting up dropbox is just like a directory on your computer or you can upload to the website.

585 11/5/2019 5:16:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message lose 1 cu... total of n11 left.
584 11/5/2019 5:15:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Rome:
siege.
583 11/5/2019 5:15:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #6: 1 / Marharbal's Cavalry
(Carthage) Play during any battle. You may use this card as a Double Envelopment BC which (if matched) does not automatically give the defender the initiative.

Message from Rome:
Africanus and 10 cu,
move to siege Syracuse.
582 11/5/2019 9:19:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #14: 2 / Ligurian Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Liguria, Cisalpinia or Etruria.

Message from Carthage:
2 Cus with Gisgo in Mutina
581 11/4/2019 3:05:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #57: 1 / Hanno Counsels Carthage
(Rome) Carthaginian CUs are prohibited from leaving Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled.

Message from Rome:
event.
580 11/4/2019 3:04:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message will send you a file later tonite then.
579 11/4/2019 3:04:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message a lot of times I'm not at my main computer... I check journal on various devices and locations... definitely cannot load anything at work or kid's computer.
578 11/4/2019 2:30:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Rome can go first
577 11/4/2019 2:30:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

576 11/4/2019 2:24:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Is there a reason why you can't upload a file after you do you rmove?
575 11/4/2019 12:09:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message no campaign.
574 11/4/2019 12:07:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

573 11/4/2019 12:07:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome End Turn
572 11/4/2019 12:06:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Message place Fabius and Varro in Cosa.
571 11/4/2019 12:05:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Rome:
1st Consul:
1=Scipio
2=Longus
3=Flaminus
4=Fabius
5=Nero
6=Paulus
570 11/4/2019 12:04:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 7-sided die x 1

6


Message from Rome:
1st Consul:
1=Scipio
2=Longus
3=Flaminus
4=Fabius
5=Nero
6=Varro
7=Paulus 
569 11/4/2019 12:04:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Message remove pc in Tarquini, Sassari.

Marcellus is proconsul.

place 3 cu in Cosa, n10;
place 2 cu in Lilybaeum, n10. 
568 11/3/2019 11:59:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message damn, what a powerful hand you got... 2 Campaigns, a bunch of 3s, and the 2 siege removal cards!
567 11/3/2019 11:32:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message That's the turn

Province count 10-8 Carthage

Remove 2 PCs

Carthage reinforcements

3 New Carthage
1 Hanno in Cirtas (n2)
566 11/3/2019 11:29:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #49: 1 / Opposing Fleet Breaks Siege
(Both) Remove all accrued siege points at any one port

Message from Carthage:
Remove all siege points from Syracuse
565 11/3/2019 11:14:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #25: 2 / Capua Sides with Carthage
(Carthage) If the Carthage controls 3 or more Italian provinces Capua is converted to Carthaginian control and all Roman CUs inside are eliminated.

Message from Rome:
pc in Lilybaeum, Sassari.
564 11/3/2019 10:44:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message 2nd move Hanno move with 1 CU to Cirta and remove Roman PC

No third move
563 11/3/2019 8:45:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message guess not.
562 11/3/2019 8:44:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Rome:
-4 DRM for naval movement
561 11/3/2019 6:29:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #33: 3 / Major Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY THREE GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
1st activation
Mago + 5 Cus land at Sassari and overrun the CU there

Roll for the naval movement and I will continue if able

-4 DRM for naval movement
560 11/3/2019 6:25:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message Double check my map to make sure I got all that right
559 11/3/2019 6:25:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message Remove
Mutina
Iberus
Hispalis
Baleares
Salaria
Laminium
Vescera
Zuccabar

558 11/3/2019 2:59:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message Hannibal survived several close calls in Italy, but finally met his fate on the island of Sicily.
557 11/3/2019 2:57:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message Africanus loses 2 .. n8.

Hannibal is killed since there is no place to retreat... you lose all 7 cu which is 3 pc penalty + 5 more pc for Hannibal ... total of 8 pc

556 11/3/2019 2:55:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Rome:
7 rds of combat.
555 11/3/2019 7:20:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Message er removed.
554 11/3/2019 7:19:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Message That's it. Go ahead and roll for casualties. I think Hannibal is displaced.
553 11/3/2019 12:44:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Play Battle card #45 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Rome:
good thing I got the last Reserve...
use as Probe!

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