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382 8/19/2019 2:49:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message im in Luxembourg

381 8/19/2019 2:20:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Message Just out of curiosity, where does everyone hail from? I'm in NE CA near Tahoe

380 8/19/2019 1:36:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message I’m away from my computer till this afternoon. I have a good idea of what I want to do but I also want to double check the map.

379 8/19/2019 12:02:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Farrell!

378 8/19/2019 4:40:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message please ignore, my browser keeps posting to wrong games.

waiting on Britain

377 8/19/2019 4:39:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message waiting on Russia

376 8/19/2019 1:21:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Britain

375 8/19/2019 1:21:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message 14 CPs: Build 7FU in Paris
4 CPs: extra deployment

1st deployment: Davout to Paris, pick up 5 to Venice
2nd deployment: Massena alone > Marseilles, pick up unit > Breasts, pick up 2 units > Burgos

374 8/18/2019 10:24:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Message apparently an answer from my phone does not reach ACTS. Austria will not switch. Too bad about the answer, though, because it was really clever

373 8/18/2019 5:35:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Oh Denmark would get a cu too,

372 8/18/2019 5:32:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Sweden builds a cu then the leader and four convoy to York.
France up.

371 8/18/2019 5:07:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Spain builds 2SU an Blake brings them to Lisbon

370 8/18/2019 4:39:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Turkey builds two CU and Al Pasha picks them up to bring them to Sofia.

369 8/18/2019 4:31:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message A note to my Russian neighbor: Please don't be alarmed, i need to defend my dual duchies against bad events.

368 8/18/2019 4:27:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Reinforcements: York +2 in Berlin
Deployment: York picks up 1CU in Posen and goes to Warsaw

367 8/18/2019 4:23:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Normally camp switching is a not common event and it is designed to be like that... most games i have seen had none or one switch, two is really rare and i can't remember that i have seen more than two switches in one game (i consider Prussias 1st join not a switch) in my 20+ played games.

366 8/18/2019 4:18:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Well, then, gents, talking's over, time to get back in the ring.

Reinforcements and Deployment, starting with Prussia

365 8/18/2019 4:01:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Russia will not change camp. We supported Austria against the French menace and will continue to resist France.

364 8/18/2019 3:55:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Ultimately it’s not a team game. You need to help your team but there is only one winner. It’s a difficult balance. I’ve seen games where Russia did nothing to help Austria and in this game Russia has done a lot. It’s depends a lot on what France is doing and therefore France can really dictate how they want the game to play out. Sometimes France goes hard after Britain which can work if they get lucky.
I do think camp switching should be kept to a minimum. It royals screws over Britain and the non-camp switching coalition player to the point of why even bother playing anymore as you have no chance of winnning.

363 8/18/2019 3:17:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message And even if defeated it's in many cases better for Austria to rebuild as a subject neutral instead of joining the imperial camp. But all those decision really depend on the current state of the game and your own strategy.

362 8/18/2019 3:12:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Flaw ;-)

361 8/18/2019 3:11:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message For me this is not a design flow... this is a grand strategy game where switching camps can be a key to victory but needs to come with some costs to avoid permanently camp switching which really makes no sense in this kind of game imho as it still goes along historical events. The game is very well balanced and you only should switch if this gives you an opportunity to win. I really love switching camps with Austria, Russia or Prussia to grab that chance but timing is key.

360 8/18/2019 3:04:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message So it’s austria/Aaron’s turn to announce camp switching?

359 8/18/2019 1:25:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message You are talking Imperial which is a great game. Not exactly a version of Diplomacy but the maps are similar.
I think there should be less switching sides i this game. It’s balanced for the sides as is. You should only be able to switch sides if you were defeated. Countries didn’t just join the invading army on a whim. If austria and Russia switched sides it would completely unbalance the game for the other countries.

358 8/18/2019 1:18:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message there is actually a design flaw in TNW, imho, which REQUIRES that the country switching sides must unflag the keys of its new allies which it holds... without this stupi rule, switching sides would be easier and would happen more often... Diplomacy is great for that, but there was a version of it in which each country was actually a joint stock company, and players could sell shares or buy shares in it; so what you might do is sell shares in your country and buy shares in the opponents country, then intentionally lose a campaign and make out like a bandit :)

357 8/18/2019 1:11:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Given it’s our first game together and some of us ares till stretching our TNW legs, predictability is good.

356 8/18/2019 1:05:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message but ok, i get your point of view.
russia, a spot of variety for you?

355 8/18/2019 1:05:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message well, i come from years of playing Diplomacy... the predictability of the camps in this game is its only boring aspect, id like to do something about that

as for your point on coming in second... coming in second as part of the imperial camp rocks compared to coming in fourth as part of the allied camp, in my view. we're not playing a game to defeat the bad ogre... we're all trying to make the most VPs

354 8/18/2019 12:13:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Too me, it seems more a bit desperate... when it comes to VP, second winner is just the first loser in this game. So helping France to win is never a good idea. With all your cards it is very likely that you get more keys after Austria is done with it cards. ;-)

353 8/18/2019 12:10:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message yeah... well, i felt a bit cocky :)

352 8/18/2019 12:10:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message however, I understand if you do not accept... in which case...

Russia, brother emperor, shall we share the Austrian carcass between us, what do you say? :)

351 8/18/2019 12:06:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Well, the reason to do so would be two keys and a card... a game breaker? who cares about the game? the point is, when the game ends, where will your VP's stand? :)

350 8/18/2019 11:51:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Message I would see no reason for Austria to do so and it would be pretty much a gamebreaker when it's France-Austria against Russia at this point. France has enough ressources to keep the few Britain forces from the coast and go after keys in a less defended Russia.

349 8/18/2019 10:00:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message If Prussia does not mind... while I wait for Prussia to join me... I'd like to make an offer to our Austrian friends. If they agree to join the Imperial camp... I will unflag all Austrian dutchies I have taken; and give you Lannes with 6FU to fight for your benefit in Russia

348 8/18/2019 9:58:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Thats actually a very astute decision. I applaude it though I regret the chance to fight at your side.

347 8/18/2019 9:55:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Message I think Prussia is not ready yet to join a side and a war so it will stay neutral for turn 2. I will watch the unfolding situation carefully, see if i can help and prepare meanwhile.

346 8/18/2019 9:50:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Prussia... just give me your counterproposal... something i can work with...

345 8/18/2019 6:32:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Well, my Prussian friend and brother, if you'd like to talk, I am prepared to be very generous. :)

344 8/18/2019 2:56:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message I just occurre to me that we did this in the wrong order. Prussia should have announced first since Russia played the last card.
Anyway, it’s the joining camp phase and Prussia is up.

343 8/18/2019 2:46:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Let's move on...

342 8/18/2019 2:46:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Message from Prussia:
Peace at 6

341 8/18/2019 2:46:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Ok, let's play the risky dice game.

340 8/17/2019 6:19:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Daniel/Prussia up.

339 8/17/2019 11:39:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message prussia to declare any use of card then to roll the peace roll (1d6)

france: spends no card to influence peace die roll
britain: no card
austria: no card
russia: no card
prussia:

338 8/17/2019 10:27:00 AM 1805-1806 Russia Message No card from Russia.

337 8/16/2019 11:34:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message russia

france: spends no card to influence peace die roll
britain: no card
austria: no card
russia:
prussia:

336 8/16/2019 9:19:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Message Only if you count John (who doesn't count). I realize that most of my contribution was attrition, but hey, I'm Austria

335 8/16/2019 4:39:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Didn't austria lose 8 CU alone in log#319?
Frank up.

334 8/16/2019 4:04:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Message no card. BTW, by my count Au lost 7 AU, FR lost 6FU
(I loving using FU for the French).
suggestion. When announcing the posting of movefiles in ACTS, include the file designation for those of us who may be a few maps behind

333 8/16/2019 11:36:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message austria to announce

france: spends no card to influence peace die roll
britain: no card
austria:
russia:
prussia:

332 8/16/2019 11:31:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message No card,
Austria to announce

331 8/16/2019 10:04:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message the last one to declare card spend (prussia) can roll for peace (a "6" ends the war)

330 8/16/2019 10:03:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message peace die roll:

please use this form:

france: spends no card to influence peace die roll
britain:
austria:
russia:
prussia:

329 8/16/2019 10:02:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message conquest: none

328 8/16/2019 10:01:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message build markers in sussex and marseilles replaced by refit markers

327 8/16/2019 9:55:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message wow, what an unusually hard winter
1 fu dead in naples, french flag in naples

326 8/16/2019 9:55:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

6
1
6

Message from France:
in naples

325 8/16/2019 9:55:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message ha ha
the frog in tyrol dead

324 8/16/2019 9:54:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Message from France:
in tyrol

323 8/16/2019 9:54:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message ouch
two spaniards dead

322 8/16/2019 9:54:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 7

5
5
2
6
6
4
2

Message from France:
in lisbon

321 8/16/2019 9:53:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message so with russia playing his last card, we move, by my count to attrition phase

320 8/16/2019 8:37:00 AM 1805-1806 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Operations #103: 3 / Mud
Increase all land movement costs between Duchies by 1 CP. If an attempted Duchy entry prompted this Response and cannot or will not be paid, its cost is forfeit. Ends Early Snowfall event.

Message from Russia:
Build 1 RU in Riga.

319 8/16/2019 5:02:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message here is hoping he can do it again :)

318 8/16/2019 3:24:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message Not sure they are comparable, Charles did lose his whole army too.

317 8/16/2019 3:21:00 AM 1805-1806 Austria Message thank you, that explains it! Also thank you Alexander for the repatriation of Charles. Now Fr and Au losses are comparable, and we are now concentrated

316 8/16/2019 3:07:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message Ha, I was wrong!
When austria lowered it, I thought he was only lowering it by one, but he was lowering it twice which is why it was four.
So Dane should be at friend and there should be one less troop in Vienna then.

315 8/16/2019 2:33:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Russia is on
file in folder

btw, i think i have discovered another mistake: Danes should be at French Aide, not Friend (see all that discussion below)

314 8/16/2019 2:24:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Massena wins, one dead on each side

313 8/16/2019 2:24:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 9

1
4
1
5
2
2
6
6
1

Message from France:
first seven Massena, last 2 Brits

312 8/16/2019 2:23:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message yes, you are right: i looked it up: only a single army can siege, my bad.

311 8/16/2019 2:19:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message You are rolling entirely too many dice for the siege.
You should be rolling only 4
One army with five dice minus one for my fleet.
Luckily it didn’t matter.
You can resolve the other battle.

310 8/16/2019 1:10:00 AM 1805-1806 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #26: 2 / Refuse Flanks
Forfeit a battle die but Halve disrupt results against you in this battle round.

Message from France:
1/2 flag Rome
2/2 Massena + 3 > Naples

Britain may resolve

309 8/16/2019 1:09:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message no joy in lisbon

308 8/16/2019 1:08:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 9

4
4
5
3
5
1
1
5
1

Message from France:
second round

307 8/16/2019 1:08:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 9

6
1
3
1
3
3
1
1
4

Message from France:
first 7 dice spain, last 2 fortress

306 8/16/2019 1:07:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message i will proceed with siege immediately

305 8/16/2019 1:07:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
1

Message from France:
intercept at lisbon?

304 8/16/2019 1:07:00 AM 1805-1806 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Operations #24: 4 / March to the Guns
A non-neutral Formation of your choice adjacent to a battle moves to the contested space. This additional Formation joining the battle could trigger attrition/terrain penalties.

Message from France:
1-2/4 Balek +2 > Badajoz

form an army group under castanos

3-4/4 Army Group castanos > Lisbon

i feel entitled, by Farrell's earlier messages, to roll the interception for him

303 8/16/2019 1:05:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message damned charles, next time i'll be sure to drive a wooden stake in his heart

302 8/15/2019 10:56:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Denmark just has its reserve so it is skipped. Spain is up the. France then Russia.

301 8/15/2019 10:49:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Denmark is up next.

300 8/15/2019 10:49:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Event #57: 3 / Up from the Ranks
Place any out-of-play but available leader (except Poniatowski or Bernadotte) in his friendly Home or Associate Duchy. If played by a Neutral Proxy, the leader must be placed in the Neutral's capital. If no leader is available, the Neutral has 3 CPs instead.

Message from Russia:
I searched the rules re: "available", did not see anything preventing me from bringing back Charles though eliminated this turn. Let me know if there is some restriction.

Otherwise, Charles is in Vienna.

299 8/15/2019 7:04:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message King William III,

Let me try and respond to the French proposal. I'll admit I'm not as verbose as him but I do hope to make my point succinctly.
Clearly France is in a very strong position. Austria has been crippled with the utter destruction of Charles' army. France will be working to finish off Austria and we can not let that happen. If you were to join France, it would just hasten Austria's demise as Russia would have to contend with you.
There is no way for any of us to catch up to France this year or probably next. We need to play for Turn 3. France knows this and knows his best opportunity to win is for you to join him and to maintain his lead for the turn 2 peace die roll. He would not be offering such a sweet heart deal if it wasn’t in his best interests.
However, if you join the coalition, we can slow France down and hopefully reverse his progress by Turn 3 thus giving one of us an opportunity to win. You of course win ties and have alot to gain by being on France's border in the lowlands.
France is strong, but he can’t be everywhere at once. We must distract him on other fronts. You have the opportunity to deploy Turkish armies to Prussia through Austria during the interphase if you join the allies. I can also send the Swedes to help. This will give you greater strength to fight the French and/or secure your fronts.
I know in the end you will make your decision based upon what you feel is your best chance to win.

298 8/15/2019 12:48:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #86: 3 / Patriotic Fervor
Select any nation without a card to draw a card from the deck.

Message from Britain:
1 CU in Oporto
Moore +2 to Sussex
I moved the Austrian unit from Kolosvar to Slovakia. I hope that is right.
Frank/Russia is up.

297 8/15/2019 12:17:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message britain is up

296 8/15/2019 12:17:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message 5/unflag ratisbon
6/fu romagna > venice

please go ahead and make the map
can you check? i think the austrian unit in slovakia has somehow gone astray

295 8/15/2019 12:03:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Sweden: Play Strategy card as Operations #909: 5 / Fanatic Defense
You have three CPs. All Swedish Formations in their Home Duchy ignore disruption in any battle during this Turn. OR Draw a card. RESERVE

Message from Britain:
1 CU stokholm
1 CU Kalmar
2 naval moves - Fleet to Baltic Sea
France up
Do you want to include my move in the rest of your log or just announce your final 2 moves and I'll do a log for britain, sweden and you?

294 8/15/2019 2:43:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Sweden

293 8/15/2019 2:42:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Prussia: I understand. If you ever want to talk terms, I am flexible and, as you see, open to discuss ideas in great detail. Above all, I understand that if we are to cooperate, you, as the smaller power, must gain more from our alliance than I. I hope we can return to the topic in due course.

292 8/15/2019 2:36:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Updated the map with Spain, Ottomans, France

291 8/15/2019 2:32:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Turkey: Play Strategy card as Operations #911: 5 / Ottoman Turks
You have CPs equal to a die roll. Turkish Units cannot be disrupted in the first round of any battle fought in this Impulse. OR 1 CP and draw a card. RESERVE

Message from Prussia:
2 CU in Istanbul, i think there is not much to do with the last CP

290 8/15/2019 2:29:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Message First, thank you France for the most detailed diplo proposal i might have ever read in any of my many games. I really appreciate your ideas and the effort, still i think some of them feel "a bit" cheesy and game unbalancing. I don't want to spoil the game for everyone else just to get a new experience. So i will make my decision based on the current situation at that time and my own strategic plan. With three options in my hand i think i can make a good decision. I agree that it is hard to win with Prussia, but i think that is the fun and the challenge to play them. And i don't want to take the likely easy route to achieve that. :-)

289 8/14/2019 11:45:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message So Prussia is up to play turkey,
Then I’ll play Sweden and France can then finish his impulse.

288 8/14/2019 11:44:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Turkey: Change Nation Owner to Prussia Message from Britain:

287 8/14/2019 12:10:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message In fact... Turkey also has a card it can play, it is now active.

So we must first ask Prussia for the Turkish card play.

286 8/14/2019 12:08:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Sorry about Sweden, go ahead and play it. I do not see any Swedish squadrons in the Swedish trays -- so perhaps not available.

I'll assume the BU retreats to Naples and will resume play after you do Sweden.

285 8/14/2019 11:51:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message It Naples is the key.
I’m out of town with no map
Btw you skipped Sweden which I know control.
Do the Swedes have a boat build available?

284 8/14/2019 11:23:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message slightly bruised, the Brit unit retreats to... Naples?

283 8/14/2019 11:21:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Massena can't shoot straight

Next 100 entries

Entry #	Time	Turn	Player	Title	Entry
382	8/19/2019 2:49:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	im in Luxembourg
381	8/19/2019 2:20:00 PM	1805-1806	Austria	Message	Just out of curiosity, where does everyone hail from? I'm in NE CA near Tahoe
380	8/19/2019 1:36:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	I’m away from my computer till this afternoon. I have a good idea of what I want to do but I also want to double check the map.
379	8/19/2019 12:02:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	Farrell!
378	8/19/2019 4:40:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	please ignore, my browser keeps posting to wrong games. waiting on Britain
377	8/19/2019 4:39:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	waiting on Russia
376	8/19/2019 1:21:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Britain
375	8/19/2019 1:21:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	14 CPs: Build 7FU in Paris 4 CPs: extra deployment 1st deployment: Davout to Paris, pick up 5 to Venice 2nd deployment: Massena alone > Marseilles, pick up unit > Breasts, pick up 2 units > Burgos
374	8/18/2019 10:24:00 PM	1805-1806	Austria	Message	apparently an answer from my phone does not reach ACTS. Austria will not switch. Too bad about the answer, though, because it was really clever
373	8/18/2019 5:35:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Oh Denmark would get a cu too,
372	8/18/2019 5:32:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Sweden builds a cu then the leader and four convoy to York. France up.
371	8/18/2019 5:07:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	Spain builds 2SU an Blake brings them to Lisbon
370	8/18/2019 4:39:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Turkey builds two CU and Al Pasha picks them up to bring them to Sofia.
369	8/18/2019 4:31:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	A note to my Russian neighbor: Please don't be alarmed, i need to defend my dual duchies against bad events.
368	8/18/2019 4:27:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Reinforcements: York +2 in Berlin Deployment: York picks up 1CU in Posen and goes to Warsaw
367	8/18/2019 4:23:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Normally camp switching is a not common event and it is designed to be like that... most games i have seen had none or one switch, two is really rare and i can't remember that i have seen more than two switches in one game (i consider Prussias 1st join not a switch) in my 20+ played games.
366	8/18/2019 4:18:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	Well, then, gents, talking's over, time to get back in the ring. Reinforcements and Deployment, starting with Prussia
365	8/18/2019 4:01:00 PM	1805-1806	Russia	Message	Russia will not change camp. We supported Austria against the French menace and will continue to resist France.
364	8/18/2019 3:55:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Ultimately it’s not a team game. You need to help your team but there is only one winner. It’s a difficult balance. I’ve seen games where Russia did nothing to help Austria and in this game Russia has done a lot. It’s depends a lot on what France is doing and therefore France can really dictate how they want the game to play out. Sometimes France goes hard after Britain which can work if they get lucky. I do think camp switching should be kept to a minimum. It royals screws over Britain and the non-camp switching coalition player to the point of why even bother playing anymore as you have no chance of winnning.
363	8/18/2019 3:17:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	And even if defeated it's in many cases better for Austria to rebuild as a subject neutral instead of joining the imperial camp. But all those decision really depend on the current state of the game and your own strategy.
362	8/18/2019 3:12:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Flaw ;-)
361	8/18/2019 3:11:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	For me this is not a design flow... this is a grand strategy game where switching camps can be a key to victory but needs to come with some costs to avoid permanently camp switching which really makes no sense in this kind of game imho as it still goes along historical events. The game is very well balanced and you only should switch if this gives you an opportunity to win. I really love switching camps with Austria, Russia or Prussia to grab that chance but timing is key.
360	8/18/2019 3:04:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	So it’s austria/Aaron’s turn to announce camp switching?
359	8/18/2019 1:25:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	You are talking Imperial which is a great game. Not exactly a version of Diplomacy but the maps are similar. I think there should be less switching sides i this game. It’s balanced for the sides as is. You should only be able to switch sides if you were defeated. Countries didn’t just join the invading army on a whim. If austria and Russia switched sides it would completely unbalance the game for the other countries.
358	8/18/2019 1:18:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	there is actually a design flaw in TNW, imho, which REQUIRES that the country switching sides must unflag the keys of its new allies which it holds... without this stupi rule, switching sides would be easier and would happen more often... Diplomacy is great for that, but there was a version of it in which each country was actually a joint stock company, and players could sell shares or buy shares in it; so what you might do is sell shares in your country and buy shares in the opponents country, then intentionally lose a campaign and make out like a bandit :)
357	8/18/2019 1:11:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Given it’s our first game together and some of us ares till stretching our TNW legs, predictability is good.
356	8/18/2019 1:05:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	but ok, i get your point of view. russia, a spot of variety for you?
355	8/18/2019 1:05:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	well, i come from years of playing Diplomacy... the predictability of the camps in this game is its only boring aspect, id like to do something about that as for your point on coming in second... coming in second as part of the imperial camp rocks compared to coming in fourth as part of the allied camp, in my view. we're not playing a game to defeat the bad ogre... we're all trying to make the most VPs
354	8/18/2019 12:13:00 PM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Too me, it seems more a bit desperate... when it comes to VP, second winner is just the first loser in this game. So helping France to win is never a good idea. With all your cards it is very likely that you get more keys after Austria is done with it cards. ;-)
353	8/18/2019 12:10:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	yeah... well, i felt a bit cocky :)
352	8/18/2019 12:10:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	however, I understand if you do not accept... in which case... Russia, brother emperor, shall we share the Austrian carcass between us, what do you say? :)
351	8/18/2019 12:06:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	Well, the reason to do so would be two keys and a card... a game breaker? who cares about the game? the point is, when the game ends, where will your VP's stand? :)
350	8/18/2019 11:51:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	I would see no reason for Austria to do so and it would be pretty much a gamebreaker when it's France-Austria against Russia at this point. France has enough ressources to keep the few Britain forces from the coast and go after keys in a less defended Russia.
349	8/18/2019 10:00:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	If Prussia does not mind... while I wait for Prussia to join me... I'd like to make an offer to our Austrian friends. If they agree to join the Imperial camp... I will unflag all Austrian dutchies I have taken; and give you Lannes with 6FU to fight for your benefit in Russia
348	8/18/2019 9:58:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Thats actually a very astute decision. I applaude it though I regret the chance to fight at your side.
347	8/18/2019 9:55:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	I think Prussia is not ready yet to join a side and a war so it will stay neutral for turn 2. I will watch the unfolding situation carefully, see if i can help and prepare meanwhile.
346	8/18/2019 9:50:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Prussia... just give me your counterproposal... something i can work with...
345	8/18/2019 6:32:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Well, my Prussian friend and brother, if you'd like to talk, I am prepared to be very generous. :)
344	8/18/2019 2:56:00 AM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	I just occurre to me that we did this in the wrong order. Prussia should have announced first since Russia played the last card. Anyway, it’s the joining camp phase and Prussia is up.
343	8/18/2019 2:46:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Let's move on...
342	8/18/2019 2:46:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 1 2 Message from Prussia: Peace at 6
341	8/18/2019 2:46:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Ok, let's play the risky dice game.
340	8/17/2019 6:19:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Daniel/Prussia up.
339	8/17/2019 11:39:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	prussia to declare any use of card then to roll the peace roll (1d6) france: spends no card to influence peace die roll britain: no card austria: no card russia: no card prussia:
338	8/17/2019 10:27:00 AM	1805-1806	Russia	Message	No card from Russia.
337	8/16/2019 11:34:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	russia france: spends no card to influence peace die roll britain: no card austria: no card russia: prussia:
336	8/16/2019 9:19:00 PM	1805-1806	Austria	Message	Only if you count John (who doesn't count). I realize that most of my contribution was attrition, but hey, I'm Austria
335	8/16/2019 4:39:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Didn't austria lose 8 CU alone in log#319? Frank up.
334	8/16/2019 4:04:00 PM	1805-1806	Austria	Message	no card. BTW, by my count Au lost 7 AU, FR lost 6FU (I loving using FU for the French). suggestion. When announcing the posting of movefiles in ACTS, include the file designation for those of us who may be a few maps behind
333	8/16/2019 11:36:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	austria to announce france: spends no card to influence peace die roll britain: no card austria: russia: prussia:
332	8/16/2019 11:31:00 AM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	No card, Austria to announce
331	8/16/2019 10:04:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	the last one to declare card spend (prussia) can roll for peace (a "6" ends the war)
330	8/16/2019 10:03:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	peace die roll: please use this form: france: spends no card to influence peace die roll britain: austria: russia: prussia:
329	8/16/2019 10:02:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	conquest: none
328	8/16/2019 10:01:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	build markers in sussex and marseilles replaced by refit markers
327	8/16/2019 9:55:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	wow, what an unusually hard winter 1 fu dead in naples, french flag in naples
326	8/16/2019 9:55:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 3 6 1 6 Message from France: in naples
325	8/16/2019 9:55:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	ha ha the frog in tyrol dead
324	8/16/2019 9:54:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from France: in tyrol
323	8/16/2019 9:54:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	ouch two spaniards dead
322	8/16/2019 9:54:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 7 5 5 2 6 6 4 2 Message from France: in lisbon
321	8/16/2019 9:53:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	so with russia playing his last card, we move, by my count to attrition phase
320	8/16/2019 8:37:00 AM	1805-1806	Russia	Russia: Play Strategy card as Operations	#103: 3 / Mud Increase all land movement costs between Duchies by 1 CP. If an attempted Duchy entry prompted this Response and cannot or will not be paid, its cost is forfeit. Ends Early Snowfall event. Message from Russia: Build 1 RU in Riga.
319	8/16/2019 5:02:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	here is hoping he can do it again :)
318	8/16/2019 3:24:00 AM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Not sure they are comparable, Charles did lose his whole army too.
317	8/16/2019 3:21:00 AM	1805-1806	Austria	Message	thank you, that explains it! Also thank you Alexander for the repatriation of Charles. Now Fr and Au losses are comparable, and we are now concentrated
316	8/16/2019 3:07:00 AM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Ha, I was wrong! When austria lowered it, I thought he was only lowering it by one, but he was lowering it twice which is why it was four. So Dane should be at friend and there should be one less troop in Vienna then.
315	8/16/2019 2:33:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Russia is on file in folder btw, i think i have discovered another mistake: Danes should be at French Aide, not Friend (see all that discussion below)
314	8/16/2019 2:24:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Massena wins, one dead on each side
313	8/16/2019 2:24:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 9 1 4 1 5 2 2 6 6 1 Message from France: first seven Massena, last 2 Brits
312	8/16/2019 2:23:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	yes, you are right: i looked it up: only a single army can siege, my bad.
311	8/16/2019 2:19:00 AM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	You are rolling entirely too many dice for the siege. You should be rolling only 4 One army with five dice minus one for my fleet. Luckily it didn’t matter. You can resolve the other battle.
310	8/16/2019 1:10:00 AM	1805-1806	France	France: Play Strategy card as Operations	#26: 2 / Refuse Flanks Forfeit a battle die but Halve disrupt results against you in this battle round. Message from France: 1/2 flag Rome 2/2 Massena + 3 > Naples Britain may resolve
309	8/16/2019 1:09:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	no joy in lisbon
308	8/16/2019 1:08:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 9 4 4 5 3 5 1 1 5 1 Message from France: second round
307	8/16/2019 1:08:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 9 6 1 3 1 3 3 1 1 4 Message from France: first 7 dice spain, last 2 fortress
306	8/16/2019 1:07:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	i will proceed with siege immediately
305	8/16/2019 1:07:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Die roll request	Request: 6-sided die x 2 3 1 Message from France: intercept at lisbon?
304	8/16/2019 1:07:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Spain: Play Strategy card as Operations	#24: 4 / March to the Guns A non-neutral Formation of your choice adjacent to a battle moves to the contested space. This additional Formation joining the battle could trigger attrition/terrain penalties. Message from France: 1-2/4 Balek +2 > Badajoz form an army group under castanos 3-4/4 Army Group castanos > Lisbon i feel entitled, by Farrell's earlier messages, to roll the interception for him
303	8/16/2019 1:05:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	damned charles, next time i'll be sure to drive a wooden stake in his heart
302	8/15/2019 10:56:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	Denmark just has its reserve so it is skipped. Spain is up the. France then Russia.
301	8/15/2019 10:49:00 PM	1805-1806	Russia	Message	Denmark is up next.
300	8/15/2019 10:49:00 PM	1805-1806	Russia	Russia: Play Strategy card as Event	#57: 3 / Up from the Ranks Place any out-of-play but available leader (except Poniatowski or Bernadotte) in his friendly Home or Associate Duchy. If played by a Neutral Proxy, the leader must be placed in the Neutral's capital. If no leader is available, the Neutral has 3 CPs instead. Message from Russia: I searched the rules re: "available", did not see anything preventing me from bringing back Charles though eliminated this turn. Let me know if there is some restriction. Otherwise, Charles is in Vienna.
299	8/15/2019 7:04:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	King William III, Let me try and respond to the French proposal. I'll admit I'm not as verbose as him but I do hope to make my point succinctly. Clearly France is in a very strong position. Austria has been crippled with the utter destruction of Charles' army. France will be working to finish off Austria and we can not let that happen. If you were to join France, it would just hasten Austria's demise as Russia would have to contend with you. There is no way for any of us to catch up to France this year or probably next. We need to play for Turn 3. France knows this and knows his best opportunity to win is for you to join him and to maintain his lead for the turn 2 peace die roll. He would not be offering such a sweet heart deal if it wasn’t in his best interests. However, if you join the coalition, we can slow France down and hopefully reverse his progress by Turn 3 thus giving one of us an opportunity to win. You of course win ties and have alot to gain by being on France's border in the lowlands. France is strong, but he can’t be everywhere at once. We must distract him on other fronts. You have the opportunity to deploy Turkish armies to Prussia through Austria during the interphase if you join the allies. I can also send the Swedes to help. This will give you greater strength to fight the French and/or secure your fronts. I know in the end you will make your decision based upon what you feel is your best chance to win.
298	8/15/2019 12:48:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations	#86: 3 / Patriotic Fervor Select any nation without a card to draw a card from the deck. Message from Britain: 1 CU in Oporto Moore +2 to Sussex I moved the Austrian unit from Kolosvar to Slovakia. I hope that is right. Frank/Russia is up.
297	8/15/2019 12:17:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	britain is up
296	8/15/2019 12:17:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	5/unflag ratisbon 6/fu romagna > venice please go ahead and make the map can you check? i think the austrian unit in slovakia has somehow gone astray
295	8/15/2019 12:03:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Sweden: Play Strategy card as Operations	#909: 5 / Fanatic Defense You have three CPs. All Swedish Formations in their Home Duchy ignore disruption in any battle during this Turn. OR Draw a card. RESERVE Message from Britain: 1 CU stokholm 1 CU Kalmar 2 naval moves - Fleet to Baltic Sea France up Do you want to include my move in the rest of your log or just announce your final 2 moves and I'll do a log for britain, sweden and you?
294	8/15/2019 2:43:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Sweden
293	8/15/2019 2:42:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Prussia: I understand. If you ever want to talk terms, I am flexible and, as you see, open to discuss ideas in great detail. Above all, I understand that if we are to cooperate, you, as the smaller power, must gain more from our alliance than I. I hope we can return to the topic in due course.
292	8/15/2019 2:36:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	Updated the map with Spain, Ottomans, France
291	8/15/2019 2:32:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Turkey: Play Strategy card as Operations	#911: 5 / Ottoman Turks You have CPs equal to a die roll. Turkish Units cannot be disrupted in the first round of any battle fought in this Impulse. OR 1 CP and draw a card. RESERVE Message from Prussia: 2 CU in Istanbul, i think there is not much to do with the last CP
290	8/15/2019 2:29:00 AM	1805-1806	Prussia	Message	First, thank you France for the most detailed diplo proposal i might have ever read in any of my many games. I really appreciate your ideas and the effort, still i think some of them feel "a bit" cheesy and game unbalancing. I don't want to spoil the game for everyone else just to get a new experience. So i will make my decision based on the current situation at that time and my own strategic plan. With three options in my hand i think i can make a good decision. I agree that it is hard to win with Prussia, but i think that is the fun and the challenge to play them. And i don't want to take the likely easy route to achieve that. :-)
289	8/14/2019 11:45:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	So Prussia is up to play turkey, Then I’ll play Sweden and France can then finish his impulse.
288	8/14/2019 11:44:00 PM	1805-1806	Britain	Turkey: Change Nation Owner to Prussia	Message from Britain:
287	8/14/2019 12:10:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	In fact... Turkey also has a card it can play, it is now active. So we must first ask Prussia for the Turkish card play.
286	8/14/2019 12:08:00 PM	1805-1806	France	Message	Sorry about Sweden, go ahead and play it. I do not see any Swedish squadrons in the Swedish trays -- so perhaps not available. I'll assume the BU retreats to Naples and will resume play after you do Sweden.
285	8/14/2019 11:51:00 AM	1805-1806	Britain	Message	It Naples is the key. I’m out of town with no map Btw you skipped Sweden which I know control. Do the Swedes have a boat build available?
284	8/14/2019 11:23:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	slightly bruised, the Brit unit retreats to... Naples?
283	8/14/2019 11:21:00 AM	1805-1806	France	Message	Massena can't shoot straight