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259 4/2/2020 6:56:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Message Turn uploaded

I have 16 ground units in Russia.
258 4/2/2020 6:17:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
K40 (I am assuming no def air) 8 to 2 = 4-1
257 4/2/2020 6:01:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
J39 6 to 2 = 3-1
256 4/2/2020 5:58:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
L39 6 to 2 = 3-1
255 4/2/2020 5:56:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
H39 6 to 2 = 3-1
254 4/2/2020 5:48:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Same Hex CA2
253 4/2/2020 5:47:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
M39 12 to 6 = 2-1
252 4/2/2020 5:44:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
O39 8 to 4 = 2-1
251 4/2/2020 5:41:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Same hex CA2
250 4/2/2020 5:40:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
R39 10 to 4 = 2-1
249 4/2/2020 5:34:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Greece 16 to 8 = 2-1
248 4/2/2020 5:30:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Libya 13 to 2 = 6-1
247 4/2/2020 4:36:00 PM Turn 9 Dario - Ally Message Fa 41 Allies :
- No Naval Interception; - No DAS.
246 4/2/2020 4:17:00 PM Turn 9 Dario - Ally Message Allies has 0DP in Finland : DRM: Fall 41 -> +2;

Net DRM -> +2; min 1d6 = 1 -> Min 3 ->
-> Finland Activates immediately;
245 4/2/2020 3:05:00 AM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Message To you for Defensive Air or Naval interception
And I targeted Finland for diplomacy
244 4/1/2020 6:59:00 AM Turn 9 Dario - Ally Message i must say i'm terrified at the idea of a German Flip/Flop in Wi41/Su42 ...
anyway, for the UK it will be an YSS all "Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat" :(

all in all, for me this our game is very interesting: you are making me pay Norway 'til the last BRP ;)

243 3/31/2020 6:36:00 PM Turn 9 Christopher - Axis Message Wow! Looks like I'm there was no initiative change. I had no idea you would spend all those BRPs to avoid the initiative switch!
242 3/31/2020 11:32:00 AM Turn 9 Dario - Ally Change game turn Game turn changed to Turn 9
241 3/31/2020 11:32:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally End Turn
240 3/31/2020 11:31:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message end of SU 41
BRP: UK has 61BRP; USSR has 47BRP -> Total Allies BRP: 108BRP
239 3/31/2020 5:21:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message USSR 2*1-3 eliminated
GE 1*3-3 eliminated
238 3/31/2020 5:20:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Dario - Ally:
1-L37) USSR 2*1-3 (from K38 & L38) vs GE 1*3-3 -> 2:6 -> 1:3
237 3/24/2020 8:26:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message So at this point I have a total of 18 factors of Germans in the Balkans and Turkey.
Naval Capacity to Turkey is currently the full 18
My 24 factors to your 18
Naval Capacity to the Middle East is 9
My 9 in Antioch to your 18
No matter what, my naval supply never exceeds 18
Remember I can trace overland to Palestine right now
So I have a lot of options for supply when I count it again during my next Supply Check
Remember the isolated units in the Middle East are not eliminated at the end of my turn. But I wonder it they check supply?
In which case I have the 5-4 in Ankara draw supply from TP turkish ports. And trace the 6 factors in Palestine overland.

I have a 6 in Palestine that will either Draw
236 3/24/2020 8:14:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message OK, the next 2 turns are yours!
235 3/24/2020 7:01:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Odessa 2-1
234 3/24/2020 6:55:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
S37 same thing
233 3/24/2020 6:51:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
R37 Same thing 2-1
232 3/24/2020 6:48:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Another CA1
231 3/24/2020 6:46:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Original attacker counterattacking at 2-1
230 3/24/2020 6:45:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Counterattack at 1-1
229 3/24/2020 6:43:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Q37 Same thing
228 3/24/2020 6:40:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
P37 4 to 2: 2-1
227 3/24/2020 6:37:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
O37 Same thing
226 3/24/2020 6:35:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
N37 exactly the same
225 3/24/2020 6:32:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
M37 12 to 3: 4-1
224 3/24/2020 6:29:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Belgrade 16 to 8 River untripled by paradrop: 2-1
223 3/24/2020 6:14:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Counter attack at 1-1
222 3/24/2020 6:13:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
DD27 16 to 8: 2-1
221 3/24/2020 5:57:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message Wow!
220 3/24/2020 5:56:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Anything less than 6 and you intercept
219 3/24/2020 10:13:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message for the moment:
1) USSR no DAS
2) UK 2*9FF from Port Said intercept IT 3*9FF in GG35 (column 2:10) ;
3) it seems our neighbors turkish think ukrainan beach are lovely :O
218 3/24/2020 4:11:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message reading your note, i'll reply asap.
glad to hear all is fine with you !!!
don't worry about the delay !!!


217 3/23/2020 9:41:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message Sorry for the delay. I sent the file to you for potential naval interception.

There is also a lot of explanation of the supply rules for the Balkans and Turkey.
216 3/23/2020 9:36:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Athens
1 to 1 -2 DRM for minor
Germany the Greece
215 3/23/2020 9:33:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Counterair Belgrade
2 German vs 2 Yugo (-2 DRM Minor)
German then Yugo
214 3/22/2020 5:02:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message UK do not intercept italian fleet
213 3/22/2020 4:00:00 AM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message My mistake that's just 3 fleets 27 factors
212 3/22/2020 2:57:00 AM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message The entire Italian fleet is departing Taranto AA24, and moves to Tobruk, staying just out of range or the Greek airforce.

Note: Both the Italians and the Germans are taking Offensives in the Med this turn. The Germans also are taking an Offensive in the East.
211 3/21/2020 6:01:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message take your time !!

coming flip-flop ... ??? :O
i've done something wrong ??? :(
210 3/21/2020 4:52:00 AM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message OK, no Vichy

Probably for the best, I'm overextended for my meager SR of 9 anyway.

I'm gonna need 24 hours to decide on my strategy. Fortunately, all my plans were made without the French. But the coming flip-flop is a big deal.
209 3/21/2020 4:46:00 AM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
6-3 gives +3 DRM
Target 7+
208 3/21/2020 1:49:00 AM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message Diplomacy - Vichy - UK has 3DPs


207 3/20/2020 7:42:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message Germany Declares War on Russia and Yugoslavia
Italy Declares War on Greece

Diplomacy: Vichy is targeted with 5 German and 1 Italian DPs
206 3/20/2020 7:27:00 PM Turn 8 Christopher - Axis Message Thank you Dario. I have a question. Can air units intercept or stop an airborne unit from making a paradrop?

I find nothing that says air can do this.
205 3/20/2020 7:13:00 PM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message Sent file with Yugo & Greece placement
204 3/20/2020 6:54:00 PM Turn 8 Dario - Ally Message Start of Summer '41
203 3/20/2020 6:54:00 PM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Change game turn Game turn changed to Turn 8
202 3/20/2020 6:53:00 PM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Message file sent to dropbox:
there are a lot of note in my file:
to understand how USSR can spend a lot of BRP:
DoW to Persia & Offensive Option in Med ... :(
201 3/20/2020 6:41:00 PM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Dario - Ally:
1-LL24) Def 1*1-3; UK Att. 1*3-4 + 1*2-5 + 1*1-3 + 2Air -> 8/2 -> 4/1
200 3/20/2020 6:41:00 PM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Message Combat Phase
1-LL24) Def 1*1-3; UK Att. 1*3-4 + 1*2-5 + 1*1-3 + 2Air -> 8/2 -> 4/1
199 3/19/2020 8:00:00 PM Turn 7 Christopher - Axis Message No effect
198 3/19/2020 7:59:00 PM Turn 7 Christopher - Axis Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Christopher - Axis:
Attrition on lowest colum
197 3/19/2020 7:00:00 PM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Message No Axis roll for Mediterranean Attrition (Column 1-10) ?
196 3/19/2020 5:22:00 PM Turn 7 Christopher - Axis Message Axis Turn Uploaded to Dropbox
195 3/19/2020 5:23:00 AM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Message No Interception against the Italian Fleet
194 3/19/2020 5:22:00 AM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Message Balkan Diplomacy

Ally has not any DP in Balkan ...

-> NetDRM: +2 -> Automatic +3
193 3/18/2020 10:21:00 PM Turn 7 Christopher - Axis Message Balkan Diplomacy

Correction:
Germany's diplomacy in Balkans is resolved in your turn, just after Britain or Russian DoW.

I think a result of 3+ will force me to set them up during your turn right after you resolve this. I believe below is the correct interpretation.

1 - Balkans activate in Fall (Start of Axis Turn)
2 - Balkans activate in Summer (Start of Axis Turn)
3+ - Balkans activate in Spring

I know it doesn't make much difference but this could effect initiative. With a 3+ it will be more difficult for me to force a double move.
192 3/18/2020 7:16:00 PM Turn 7 Christopher - Axis Message Germany targets the Balkan Minors for diplomacy this turn. 1 DP has been assigned. This is doubled to 2.

Clarification: The results are ambiguous due to our system. I believe them to mean:

1) Balkans activate in Fall
2) Balkans activate in Summer
3) Balkans activate in Summer
191 3/18/2020 6:58:00 PM Turn 7 Christopher - Axis Message Naval Movement
The Italian Fleet in Brundisi (AA25) Crosses to the Albanian coast, hugs the Greek coast past Athens and then moves directly to Istanbul (Z33)
190 3/18/2020 6:27:00 PM Turn 7 Dario - Ally Message Start Sp 41 - Axis First
189 3/18/2020 6:18:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Change game turn Game turn changed to Turn 7
188 3/18/2020 6:16:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message File with Ally 41 DP & SW sent to DropBox
187 3/18/2020 6:05:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message [3R4] 028 41 Ally YSS DP & SW Expenditure vs Lincoln

DP:
UK buy 1DP -> 138-5 -> 133BRP (Total 5DPs)
USSR buy 1DP -> 149-5 -> 144BRP (Total 3DPs)

SW:
UK buy 4SW Counters -> 133-12 -> 121BRP -> BRP Spending Limit : 60

BRP Spending Limit:
UK 121/2 -> 60
USSR 144/2 -> 72
186 3/18/2020 6:03:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message i've replied in PM ... !!!
185 3/18/2020 5:34:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message Of course the house rule post is to clarify what I had suggested before and if you have a problem with any of it let's discuss. I'm just trying to make the house rule conform with the game.

Normally, there is no limit to activity for supply traced through the Balkans (once activated) or Turkey. Now that we are limiting it to 20 Axis in all of the Balkans, Turkey and the Middle East it is important to take into account supply from Italy over the Mediterranean. This is accounted for in 35.5 and 35.51 and these rules should extend to Turkey also.

I have been trying to plan my campaigns for 1941 and I have to say Axis supply will be very tight. I don't think the British should be concerned about an immediate German threat through Turkey. I think the whole situation is very subtle and difficult for both sides. And very a interesting set of problems.
184 3/17/2020 8:21:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message I will now do a log file doing Vichy Placement and Axis YSS. I will reveal my last SW/DP file and create one for 1941. Then I will also create a save game (this seems to make my delayed file not disapear)
Then I will send the file to you for your YSS.
183 3/17/2020 8:17:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message Bonus DPs At start of 1941

Germany: Warsaw - 1, Turkey (Ankara, Istanbul, Izmir) - 1 for group, Denmark and Low Countries - 1 for group, Paris 2. German total bonus DPs 5!
Italy: None
Great Britain: Oslo 1 Total 1
Soviet Union: None

German BRPs Conquests or Minor Allies: Poland 20, Denmark 10, Netherlands 10, Belgium 15, Luxembourg 5, Turkey 30, France 42 = 132

Britain BRPs Liberation of Norway 10

Strategic Warfare 1941 YSS
Germany 1 Int /8 Subs
Britain 1 SAC /3 ASW
SAC is cancelled out. 5 subs damage British economy -15 BRPs from remaining 24 leaves 9 BRPs for Growth

BRP Growth:
Germany 20 x 50% = 10 BRPs - New Base 160
Italy No growth Base 75
British 9 x 40% = 3.6 or 3 BRPs - New Base 128
Russia 115 x 30% = 34.5 or 34 BRPs - New Base 124

Starting BRPs
Germany 160 + 132 = 292, Italy 75
Britain 128 + 10 = 138, Russia 124 + 25 = 149

DP Maximum Purchases
Germany 2, Italy 0, Britain 1, Russia 1

Important: DP purchases are subtracted before SW purchases are made.
182 3/17/2020 7:36:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message Upon review of 35.5 and 35.51 The limit is 18 (Axis of any kind) for supply through ports Antioch and south. Exception: Vichy units in Syria

House Rule - Limiting Germans to 20 Factors in Balkans (including European Turkey) even after activation. This should include Italians. Exception: Italian units in Yugoslavia or Greece do not count toward limit. Axis minors can only enter European Turkey but do not count toward the Axis Balkan limit.
House Rule - Include Asiatic Turkey in above limitation. If Bucharest or any hex south of the Danube, or if Graz or Vienna, is controlled by the Allies Axis supply in Asiatic Turkey is limited to 4 factors traced through the Balkans. Exception: The Axis can supply up to an additional 18 factors in Turkey through ports in Asiatic Turkey. This can be reduced the same way supply through the Levant is reduced (35.51) except that air units would need to be based within range of Turkish ports or the Greek coastline (DD26-28 or EE 26-27) to reduce this supply. Beginning in 1943 Allied interdiction range rises to 6 hexes. British and Italian Fleets based at any Eastern Med port cancel each other out. Excess British Fleets can reduce the 18 factors to 0. A fleet based in Malta can be used to reduce either Libyan supply of Germans or Eastern Mediterranean supply of Axis units.
Important - 18 factors is the maximum number of Axis factors that can be supplied anywhere through ports in the Eastern Med (excluding supply traced from Libyan ports)
181 3/17/2020 6:39:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message anyway, i must say i'm quite sad for Turkey entry in war as Active Minor Axis
but, i'm quite happy because we have ended another year.
we started to play (basing on ACTS data) on 25/02/2020 ... so more or less 20 days for all 39 and all 40!
not bad at all !!!
180 3/17/2020 6:33:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message sure i'll remember to place A LOT of ground units in Gibra, in the next game ;)
179 3/17/2020 6:32:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message DP in SPain was because of a mine error:
i've ended the 39 with no ground units in Gibraltar ...
... so i was forced to place a lot of DP in Spain :(
instead, as you have rightly thought, in france & turkey :(
178 3/17/2020 6:30:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message i've loved that :)
177 3/17/2020 6:28:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message If Spain were Loyalist or Communist that's where we would be!
176 3/17/2020 6:25:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message lol !!!!!!!!!!!
175 3/17/2020 6:21:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message I thought for a minute you had allied Spain
174 3/17/2020 6:17:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message Wow!
173 3/17/2020 6:16:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message Spain
0 -> *Spain rejects all advances and remains permanently in minor neutral status.
172 3/17/2020 6:16:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message My mistake! I thought you were moving the airbase to Britain. It remained in Norway. Sorry
171 3/17/2020 6:15:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message ... oh oh ... this seems a quite interesting game ... :O
170 3/17/2020 6:14:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Dario - Ally:
let's roll for Spain
Net DRM -3 (UK 2DPS; FR 1DP)
169 3/17/2020 6:13:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message The Airbase in Norway could not have been strategically redeployed because no fleet started the phase in Bergen -see example after 29.62
168 3/17/2020 6:13:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message The allies can supply as many units as they like from Egypt if the Suez and Port Said are controlled.

... this will be a sad story :(
167 3/17/2020 6:12:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message thank you for your note ...
and as an UK player with Turkey Minor Axis Ally ... i like your hose rule:)
I usually play with a house rule that Germany is limited to 20 strength points they can actively use in the Balkans/Turkey/Middle East.
166 3/17/2020 5:58:00 PM Turn 6 Christopher - Axis Message 1) All colonies are Vichy, French forces in France are not halved and no partisans can be built in France.
2) Vichy is considered an inactive German minor ally and must be activated by diplomacy for Vichy which still makes use of all the modifiers found in rule 49.
3) Even if Germany allies Vichy the allies can make later attempts to deactivate or have them switch sides. In the regular game this is limited to one attempt. Using diplomacy more than one attempt can be made over multiple years should rare circumstances make that a viable strategy.
3) The same is true for Turkey. The allies can make attempts against them as soon as they have more strength points in the Balkins than the Germans
4) I usually play with a house rule that Germany is limited to 20 strength points they can actively use in the Balkans/Turkey/Middle East. Even after the Balkans are active German allies. Like in North Africa excess units simply cannot move or attack but are not eliminated. This extends to German units in the Caucuses or Russia that cannot trace a supply line through Poland.
Additional units can be supplied in Turkey Proper or the Middle East via the same mechanic for tracing supply through the ports of Antioch and south. And this can be reduced the same way as described in the current DBA. See 35.5
The allies can supply as many units as they like from Egypt if the Suez and Port Said are controlled. They can also trace off the map like Russia to Iraq, or Persia if under allied control
165 3/17/2020 5:48:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message For SW Calculation:
UK SW : 3 ASW ; 1 SAC
164 3/17/2020 5:47:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message i fear the german panzer division running through belgium without opposition ... :(
163 3/17/2020 5:46:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message i have (and i'll try to call) 3DP in Spain;
i've placed 2DP in defence in Bel/Lux ...
162 3/17/2020 5:44:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message let's go with YSS:
UK ends '40 with 24BRPs;
GE ends '40 with 20BRPs;
IT ends '40 with 0BRPs;
USSR ends '40 with 115BRP

161 3/17/2020 5:39:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Message Ally Wi 40 sent to DropBox,
with Turkey & Vichy Fleet not halved , now, for UK, starts "the darkest hour" :(
160 3/17/2020 5:27:00 PM Turn 6 Dario - Ally Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Dario - Ally:
Med Attrition : Column 1-10

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