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252 1/17/2021 8:39:00 AM Turn 5 Pereen Message Hi guys. I've been busy working on a professional certification and renewing another, so my responses may be slow for awhile.

The Gwyn move is fine but there isn't a target or need for naval combat as I have no SDBs in the system. So basically we're staring at one another. Let me know if you need to revise your move or if I should move next.
251 1/10/2021 10:30:00 AM Turn 5 Gwynhyfarr Message Ok so the action turns to BD 2. I've paused at the combat phase to verify. I think i have strength 6 to your strength 0 (maybe 1) for naval combat. Once you confirm we can roll those dice here.

250 1/4/2021 6:02:00 PM Turn 5 Pereen Message I posted a log for war turn 1, as I didn't hear any change of mind from Gwyn regarding turn 1 movement order. Just some shuffling around.

249 12/20/2020 5:56:00 PM Turn 5 Pereen Message Think about it and then confirm who you want to go first (no assumptions).
248 12/16/2020 8:40:00 AM Turn 5 Gwynhyfarr Message I think I will let the Pereen go first, but it's under the assumption that there's no way for me to attack a syste before your movement phase to take out a web nexi. Or perhaps if war was declared with my forces already in a system I would have the opportunity to do so. Like the Terrans could do now in Cygni. :)
247 12/12/2020 7:11:00 AM Turn 5 Pereen Message Gwynhyfarr to determine who goes first for war turn 1 (12.04).
246 12/12/2020 7:07:00 AM Turn 5 Terran Message Terrans will remain neutral here.
245 12/12/2020 7:03:00 AM Turn 5 Pereen Message Just to clarify, Pereen passes on its option to declare war for its probe landing this turn. Terrans will need to decide if they want to ally with either Gwynhyfarr or Pereen, or remain neutral.
244 12/8/2020 9:49:00 AM Turn 5 Gwynhyfarr Message War has been declared on the Pereen.
243 12/6/2020 4:54:00 AM Turn 5 Terran Message Terrans Redeployment loaded. Gwy declaration of war ?
242 12/5/2020 7:42:00 AM Turn 5 Pereen Message Pereen Redeployments posted. Terrans Redeployments next.
241 11/23/2020 10:02:00 AM Turn 5 Gwynhyfarr Message It looks like things are caught up. I played that event chit this turn, so was leaving it for removal at the end of the full turn just as a reminder. I think using the SoP will help keep things on track, though I do still get confused a bit. For now though I just did reassignment. Passing it on to the Pereen.
240 11/22/2020 7:44:00 AM Turn 5 Terran Message There is an event chit drifting between Fomalhaut & CD-27. Shouldn't this go back to the pool ?
239 11/22/2020 7:34:00 AM Turn 5 Terran Message Catching up. File 35 loaded.
238 11/22/2020 7:02:00 AM Turn 5 Terran Message I'm going to send in Terran 1 & 2 together so that I can catch up with the current sequence
237 11/22/2020 6:58:00 AM Turn 5 Pereen Message What do you recommend? Dave, any insights?
236 11/20/2020 1:22:00 PM Turn 5 Terran Message I'm starting to get hopelessly lost here. I'm supposed to do Terran phase 2, but I didn't even do Terran phase 1. We keep skipping things somehow.
235 11/20/2020 12:17:00 PM Turn 5 Pereen Message Pereen construct 2 infantry. Terrans are next.
I will be on vacation all of next week.
234 11/16/2020 9:18:00 AM Turn 5 Gwynhyfarr Message Gwynhyfarr turn taken.
233 11/15/2020 7:58:00 AM Turn 5 Terran Message Looks ok. Thanks for the research and clarifications !

I still hate you ;-)
232 11/15/2020 7:50:00 AM Turn 5 Pereen Message I just took a look at Terran build (1 light fleet at 61 Cygni). Thanks for the pause for validation. I couldn't view it as being suspect given that everything Pereen does has already been committed to in advance. Time travel would help. It's also a different type of game that I think we're all used to playing.

Rule 7.22 limits Terran builds to the location of Sol, Terran Bases (not settlements), and Terran web nexi. So your legal construction locations are Sol and Tau Ceti. So technically the light fleet should be moved to one of those two locations.

Practically speaking, unit reassignment will be coming up shortly. Ownership of 61 Cygni allows it to be a valid destination for reassignments. So I don't see a need to make a correction at this point as it could be assumed you want to move it to 61 Cygni during reassignments. You can make any adjustment during your next log.

Terrans building web nexi could help with allowing for builds where there are not bases. You could even stop building bases and just spread out using nexi and can still build fleets there, though bases would provide air-space defense.

So unless there's anything else to be resolved, Gwynhyfarr are next.
231 11/10/2020 6:33:00 PM Turn 5 Pereen Message Been busy. I'll check the Terran log tomorrow unless I get blitzed at work.
230 11/6/2020 10:18:00 AM Turn 5 Terran Message Posted WS T4 - 032 Ter.
Let's all agree (or not) that this is legit.
229 11/4/2020 6:56:00 PM Turn 5 Pereen Message I renumbered my log file (031 I think). Go ahead and do your construction; shouldn't impact my play as so much of what I do is pre-plotted.
228 11/2/2020 2:40:00 PM Turn 5 Terran Message Mmm, how does file T5 029 follow file T4 030 ?
I didn't play out Terran 2 (construction - Tech advance) from Turn 4.
227 10/31/2020 10:02:00 AM Turn 5 Pereen Message Pereen log for turn 5 posted. Probe arrives at 61 Cygni. Guess with these probes you never know who you'll run into.
226 10/26/2020 8:28:00 PM Turn 4 Pereen End Turn
225 10/21/2020 11:53:00 AM Turn 4 Terran Message Yes. Let's move on.
224 10/20/2020 7:31:00 PM Turn 4 Pereen Message Same here. If Terrans can confirm, we can go on. Note I will be on vacation and out of town Wednesday (late morning). So if you can confirm, I may be able to do my turn before leaving. Otherwise I'll respond on MOnday.
223 10/20/2020 6:55:00 PM Turn 4 Gwynhyfarr Message Turn taken. Map is starting to get crowded, but no dow for me this turn so unless someone else is we can move to turn 5.
222 10/20/2020 2:05:00 PM Turn 4 Terran Message Gwnhyf next
221 10/20/2020 2:05:00 PM Turn 4 Terran Message Terran 2 posted
220 10/20/2020 10:46:00 AM Turn 4 Pereen Message Pereen mailing 2 posted for the turn. Terrans are next.
219 10/18/2020 6:15:00 PM Turn 4 Gwynhyfarr Message Ok turn taken. Pereen up next.
218 10/17/2020 10:45:00 AM Turn 4 Pereen Message Regarding base construction, rule 7.24 states that "A player can construct a base at any system he owns (see 3.8) to which he can trace a line of communications (see 3.2). The second bullet of 3.8 states you own a base that you settle unless it's conquered. So that can be a Settlement 1 marker or greater, or a control marker. Line of communication is either by web nexi or commerce distance.
217 10/13/2020 1:07:00 PM Turn 4 Terran Message I'm not sure why the control marker is in Tau Ceti. We can remove it. I drew and played a settlement marker at the begining of turn 3 and increased 3 settlements population by one.

I re-read the construction rules. Because bases can never move, it seems to imply that Terran bases cannot be build in owned/settled systems (ownership doesn't seem to require full settlement) but only at systems containing Web Nexi. Is this correct ?
216 10/12/2020 4:16:00 PM Turn 4 Gwynhyfarr Message A couple of things I'm not sure about:

* We're only on turn 4 so I don't think Alpha Centauri should be at Settle 5 though maybe there was a chit for that?
* Similarly Tau Ceti has a Control and a Settle 4 marker when it needs to get to 6.
* There's also a base on Tau Ceti which I'm not sure you can place without first having control.
215 10/12/2020 10:57:00 AM Turn 4 Terran Message File 26 added. Over to Gwy
214 10/12/2020 10:39:00 AM Turn 4 Terran Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Terran:
Sigma Dracon is : Barren system
213 10/11/2020 11:43:00 AM Turn 4 Pereen Message Posted turn 4 Pereen mailing 1. Up to Terrans.
212 10/10/2020 11:13:00 AM Turn 4 Pereen Message I'll do Pereen mailing 1 sometime over the weekend.
211 10/10/2020 11:13:00 AM Turn 3 Pereen End Turn
210 10/10/2020 11:02:00 AM Turn 3 Gwynhyfarr Message No DoW here.
209 10/8/2020 11:41:00 AM Turn 3 Terran Message No, no, no. No Dow :-)
208 10/8/2020 11:37:00 AM Turn 3 Pereen Message Any DOWs? Otherwise we can go on to the next turn.
207 9/30/2020 11:46:00 AM Turn 3 Pereen Message I finished reassignments to cover outer bases. No DOW. Log posted.
206 9/29/2020 10:47:00 PM Turn 3 Gwynhyfarr Message No reassignments.
205 9/29/2020 3:01:00 PM Turn 3 Terran Message Terran 2 posted. Gwy next.
204 9/28/2020 5:29:00 PM Turn 3 Pereen Message I posted Pereen mailing 2. Back to Earth.
203 9/27/2020 1:36:00 PM Turn 3 Terran Message My budget increase should have been 6, not 3 due to the event chit. Will correct with my next move.
202 9/27/2020 12:06:00 PM Turn 3 Gwynhyfarr Message Gwyn posted.Played the increase reserve event so pereen will need to move two units from the map to reserves.
201 9/27/2020 8:33:00 AM Turn 3 Terran Message Ter 1 posted. Over to Gwy 1
200 9/27/2020 7:50:00 AM Turn 3 Pereen Message Posted Pereen mailing 1. Over to Terrans.
General reminder to include some explanatory comments in your log files to facilitate verifying legality of moves (e.g. amount of EP spent or distance from base).
199 9/27/2020 7:49:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen End Turn
198 9/26/2020 12:38:00 PM Turn 2 Terran Message Confirming
197 9/26/2020 10:31:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen Message Agreed. Terrans to confirm and then Pereen mailing 1 for Turn 3.
196 9/26/2020 9:51:00 AM Turn 2 Gwynhyfarr Message No DoW yet from Gwyn. If none for Terran we should just be moving to the next turn yes?
195 9/26/2020 7:13:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen Message No Pereen reassignments. Next steps are Terran reassignments then DOWS from Gwynhyfarr, Pereen (none as no probes landed) and Terran.
194 9/23/2020 5:30:00 PM Turn 2 Gwynhyfarr Message No unit reassignment.
193 9/21/2020 3:51:00 AM Turn 2 Terran Message Terran construction done. Over to Gwynhyffar
192 9/20/2020 5:41:00 PM Turn 2 Pereen Message I think your turn was good. I posted the Pereen construction. Back to Terrans.
191 9/17/2020 10:08:00 PM Turn 2 Gwynhyfarr Message Move taken. Hopefully I got it right this time. Not sure about the event chit I played but I think I did it right.
190 9/15/2020 2:11:00 PM Turn 2 Terran Message Yeah something went wrong. End of turn 1 has the Terran EP total at 22 so that what the Terran player has available for turn 2. I built 2 settlements for 6 EPs and 10 EPs for maintenance. Current remaining EPs : 6

Correction file loaded

189 9/14/2020 6:10:00 PM Turn 2 Pereen Message Karoly, please check your move. I think you short changed yourself when resetting EP remaining, and then you'll have to pay for the settlement costs. Thanks!
188 9/14/2020 2:07:00 PM Turn 2 Terran Message Terran 1 loaded. Over to Gwynhyfarr
187 9/14/2020 10:43:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen Message I haven't tested using any of the newer versions of Vassal, as they have been in flux (many updates within several months). Figured I'd wait until the beginning of 2021 to dive into it.

I suspect that there is backwards compatibility. However, if somebody modified the module using a newer version, there will be some point where you will need the new version of Vassal to use it. So the threat is more based upon the developer's usage rather than the gamer's usage.
186 9/14/2020 9:39:00 AM Turn 2 Gwynhyfarr Message Has the mod been tested with the latest vassal version? I know a few mods have broken because of some of the changes. Don't want to upgrade if it's going to affect our game.
185 9/14/2020 8:55:00 AM Turn 2 Gwynhyfarr Message Added a fix log (11a) to adjust the settlement placement. Otherwise it's the Terran move.
184 9/11/2020 11:48:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen Message Go ahead and make the update at your earliest convenience.
183 9/7/2020 1:49:00 PM Turn 2 Pereen Message Hi ... Delta Pavonis is a Gwynhyfarr settlement but does not have a Base counter within that system.

Epsilon Indi would be within range, and helps you climb the eliptical.

Gwyn has 6 bases to build and Terrans 4 to build out the range of their possible settlements. Terrans and Pereen can do so by being within web link line of communications. So that's probably why Terrans don't get as many bases.
182 9/7/2020 1:27:00 PM Turn 2 Gwynhyfarr Message I also no realize the from a base part. Does that mean Delta Pavonis is not settled? Because I thought we owned the systems we start with, no need to settle. If I can't however settle from the owned spaces, and there needs to be a base that means I can't get to Sigma Draconis either. In which case I think Epsilon Indi will be where the settle 1 should move.
181 9/7/2020 1:23:00 PM Turn 2 Gwynhyfarr Message Sorry just catching up on this. So I can't settle Chi Draconis from Delta Pavonis? If not I will settle Sigma Draconis instead. Sorry for the confusion.
180 9/6/2020 5:06:00 PM Turn 2 Pereen Message Looking at this a little closer. I think this is actually a repeat of the last game's mistake. Rule 6.22 indicates that the Gwynhyfarr settlement is based upon range from a base. Current Gwyn bases are LFT 1747 (at -14) and Gamma Pavonis (also at -14).

Recommend adjusting the Chi Draconis settlement 1 to Delta Pavonis (at -9), as there's a Heavy Fleet there.

The distance from 61 Cygni to Chi Draconis is correct. However, the button that opens the settlement range lines for Cygni is pretty crammed in and may have been used for LFT 1747. I tried to place those buttons in line with the systems name.

Thoughts?
179 9/6/2020 11:46:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen Message Settlement was played as part of log 5.
The map graphic showed that the range was only 9.

Either later today or sometime tomorrow, I'll update the graphic for ranges coming from 61 Cygni, and then Gwynhyfarr can make an adjustment.

Please keep an eye out for similar range errors on the settlement range pop-ups. It was tedious work to do those, so there are likely some concentration errors.
178 9/6/2020 11:41:00 AM Turn 2 Terran Message Yes, no harm here.
177 9/6/2020 11:40:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen Message Agreed. Let's fix this before continuing, as we haven't gone too far.
176 9/6/2020 11:30:00 AM Turn 2 Terran Message Still don't understand how it is possible for Gwynhyfarr to settle Chi Draconis at +13. All their systems are far below the ecliptic. Maybe there is a confusion with the set up at Delta Pavonis versus Sigma Draconis. Maybe I miss something here.
175 9/6/2020 11:09:00 AM Turn 2 Pereen Message Posted Pereen mailing 1.
174 9/5/2020 12:59:00 PM Turn 2 Pereen Message Just got back from a staycation getway, and will do Pereen T2 mailing 1 either later today or tomorrow.
173 9/5/2020 12:59:00 PM Turn 1 Pereen End Turn
172 9/5/2020 12:10:00 PM Turn 1 Gwynhyfarr Message I assume we'll have no declarations of war so this turn ends. Pereen can set us off for the next turn.
171 9/3/2020 11:26:00 AM Turn 1 Terran Message No Terran unit reassignment either. Log file loaded.
170 9/2/2020 11:01:00 PM Turn 1 Pereen Message No Pereen unit reassignments. It's up to Terrans for reassignments, then DOW declarations. I will not make any declarations. Log posted to dropbox.
169 8/27/2020 11:36:00 AM Turn 1 Pereen Message Gwynhyfarr is up next. I will be off line this weekend.
168 8/22/2020 1:21:00 PM Turn 1 Terran Message Terran 2 posted. Little activity
167 8/22/2020 7:48:00 AM Turn 1 Pereen Message Pereen mailing 2 posted. Remember that your files should be vlog and not vsav.
166 8/20/2020 7:56:00 AM Turn 1 Gwynhyfarr Message Turn taken. Just a note that I could find the +1-3 markers to update the economic value from my Lode System event so I left the event chit nearby as a reference.
165 8/20/2020 7:50:00 AM Turn 1 Gwynhyfarr Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Gwynhyfarr:
Lode System for CD - 36 13
[Half 1d6 rounded up added to economic value]
164 8/15/2020 5:24:00 PM Turn 1 Terran Message Over to Gwy. I jumped to Terran 2 operations to compensate for my slow start. Forgot to use the sequence buttons though. Have to get used to it.
163 8/15/2020 10:20:00 AM Turn 1 Terran Message Sorry for the delay. I will get my move in soon.
162 8/12/2020 5:21:00 PM Turn 1 Pereen Message My error. The SOP inside log #3 correctly shows it's time for the Terran mailing 1. I mislabeled the log file name, and just updated it to show a "ter" suffix.
161 8/11/2020 3:42:00 PM Turn 1 Terran Message But the latest file is "WS T1 - 003 Per - Gwy"
I'm confused.
160 8/10/2020 9:46:00 PM Turn 1 Gwynhyfarr Message Log #3 SoP has it at Terran mailing unless I'm missing a file
159 8/10/2020 11:18:00 AM Turn 1 Pereen Message Just a reminder that Gwynhyfarr mailing 1 is next.
158 8/4/2020 4:49:00 PM Turn 1 Pereen Message I posted Pereen mailing 1 to dropbox.
I looked for the old log files and already deleted them off my laptop as well. Sorry.
157 8/4/2020 4:48:00 PM Turn 0 Pereen End Turn
156 8/3/2020 11:53:00 AM Turn 0 Pereen Message I deleted the copies of the log files out on dropbox for the original game, figuring they were no longer needed. I think I still have them on my laptop if still needed.
155 8/3/2020 8:03:00 AM Turn 0 Gwynhyfarr Message Okay my setup log is in. I also set up a new logs folder. Tom if you wouldn't mind putting the old logs in the archive folder if you still have them.
154 8/1/2020 6:47:00 PM Turn 0 Gwynhyfarr Message I should be able to get my setup done tomorrow. I also want to give the rules another read.
153 7/31/2020 9:32:00 PM Turn 0 Pereen Message I posted the Pereen setup. Gwynhyfarr do their setup and then it comes back to me for Turn 1. Terrans have their setup mandated.

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