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578 6/28/2021 4:00:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Hi Jeff,
Yeah, I agree this becomes one-sided at this point, probably :) Sure - just drop me an email when you know the dates, and I'll be happy to de-virtualize with you (and maybe play some board games ;)

And whenever you feel like playing another game - just feel free to poke me.

Thank you for the game, it was really close until the last battle.

Peter
577 6/27/2021 9:51:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message My wife and I went to Rhodes back in 1996. The night we arrived, we drove into the old city looking for our hotel, not knowing you can't drive in there after sundown! We eventually found it, but at one point had to back a long distance back up a very narrow street.

The old city there is one of the great sights of medieval Europe. We also found a wonderful craftsman there who did hand-painted copies of famous Minoan and classical Greek vases. Several of them sit on shelves in my study.

With regard to our game, Peter, I think it's time for me to concede. I'm down in the Province count 11-7, and now am at a significant detriment in terms of troops and have lost Scipio. In fairness to you, I don't think I should string this out any longer.

I really have enjoyed gaming with you! I appreciated your patience and our various exchanges on so many different subjects during play. Let's definitely try another game sometime.

And if my wife and I make it to Warsaw in the next few years, we would enjoy meeting you in person.

576 6/27/2021 9:40:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #23: 3 / Numidian Ally
(Rome) Place up to three Roman PCs in Eastern Numidia in spaces which do not contain enemy CUs. If the space contains a Carthaginian PC, the PC is simply flipped.

Message from Rome:
I'll play PCs as follows:

- Arpi
- Enna
- Nice
575 6/21/2021 2:38:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #64: 2 / Truce
(Both) Neither player may enter a space containing an enemy CU or PC while the Truce lasts. The Truce ends when either player uses a Strategy Card as an event.

Message from Carthage:
Sorry for a delay from my side now - I was in Rhodes. A lot of very interesting Tamplier history, and almost got shot at a former Italian airfield :)

I'll place PCs in Heraclea and Tarquinii
574 6/11/2021 11:58:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message My apologies for the long interval: the trial prep has gotten really intense.

The worst thing about that defeat at Tarquinii is realizing that I made the exact same mistake the real Romans made at Cannae: continuing to push a frontal assault in the face of an attempted DE!

I'll remove the following 5 PCs;

Nice
Nuoro
Heraclea
Enna
Apri.


573 5/30/2021 4:53:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Yeah, battles in Hannibal tend to be really swingy :(
If you're good, we can still see how it develops, in that case I believe you got to remove 5 PCs
572 5/29/2021 10:13:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message So close to a 1/1 . . . oh, well.

The entire Roman army is destroyed, losing 10 CUs and Scipio as well. The Carthaginians lose 3 CUs.

That was certainly a painful lesson in never risking a DE result if you can possibly avoid it.

I doubt that I will be able to recover from that, but we can continue, and we'll see how it goes.

571 5/29/2021 9:59:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
6


Message from Rome:
The game goes to ten rounds.

Attrition
Retreat

570 5/29/2021 9:58:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message I knew I should've played a Probe card!

I can't match it. Hannibal prevails.
569 5/29/2021 3:39:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #33 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Carthage:
As Double Envelopment
568 5/29/2021 3:39:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
Initiative
567 5/29/2021 3:38:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #47 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
566 5/29/2021 11:16:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #45 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Rome:
The Battle of Tarquinia: Round 9.

I'll play this as a Frontal Assault.
565 5/29/2021 10:53:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #46 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Rome:
I'll use this as a DE card to match.
564 5/26/2021 1:51:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
563 5/26/2021 1:50:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Carthage:
Initiative
562 5/26/2021 1:50:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #4 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
561 5/25/2021 11:48:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #48 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Rome:
The Battle of Tarquinia, Round 7.
I'll play this as a Frontal Assault.
560 5/25/2021 11:01:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Carthage:
Initiative
559 5/25/2021 11:01:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #11 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
558 5/25/2021 10:57:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #12 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
The Battle of Tarquinia, Round 6.
557 5/25/2021 10:56:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
Matched.
556 5/25/2021 2:16:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
555 5/25/2021 2:16:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Carthage:
Initiative
554 5/25/2021 2:16:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #2 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
553 5/24/2021 11:54:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #6 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
The Battle of Tarquinia, Round 4.
552 5/24/2021 11:50:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message Most people seem to think mid-4th century B.C., so in the period when the Romans were beginning to conquer the Etruscan cities, but some think later, perhaps mid-3rd century or later.

Someday I hope to do a tour of Tuscany and western Umbria focusing on the Etruscan sites.

551 5/23/2021 1:39:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Carthage:
Initiative
550 5/23/2021 1:38:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #8 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
How old are they? Terrific workmanship.
549 5/22/2021 11:57:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #5 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
The Battle of Tarquinii, Round 3.
548 5/22/2021 11:53:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message But first: another Tarquinia scene. These are the remains of one of the main temples of the Etruscan city:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarquinia#/media/File:Ara_della_Regina_Tarquinia.jpg


. . . from which these horses were recovered (presumably broken into pieces of terracotta):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarquinia#/media/File:Photo_Paolo_Villa_VR_2016_(VT)_F0163961trisbis_Palazzo_Vitelleschi,_cavalli_alati_bardati,_scultura_etrusca_ellenistica,_dettaglio_teste_ed_ali,_Tarquinia.jpg


547 5/22/2021 11:48:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
Match. The initiative automatically passes to me.
546 5/19/2021 7:42:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
545 5/19/2021 7:41:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
Initiative
544 5/19/2021 7:41:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #7 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
That's some scenic sight, right there
543 5/18/2021 11:49:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #9 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
The Battle of Tarquinii, Round 1:

542 5/18/2021 11:48:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message Hannibal's interception attempt fails, so Scipio's army continues its march southeast along the coast until the two armies confront each other near the ancient Etruscan tombs at Tarquinii.

The scene of the battle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarquinia#/media/File:Tarquinia_2014_by-RaBoe_124.jpg


541 5/18/2021 4:40:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Battle Hands dealt Battle 14

Carthage: 15 cards
Rome: 16 cards
540 5/18/2021 4:24:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Carthage:
Intercept at Cosa
539 5/17/2021 11:44:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #53: 1 / Tribal Resistance
(Both) Remove any accrued Subjugation Points in any one Tribe space.

Message from Rome:
I'll use this to activate Scipio, who will move as follows:

MP 1: Alone to Falerii, where he picks up 2 CUs -- now 7 CUs with Flaminius.

MP 2: Scipio returns to Faesulae with his 2 CUs, and drops them off there to garrison his camp.

MP 3: Scipio then advances with his army of 10 CUs to Cosa. Hannibal may roll for interception. If not, Scipio will continue to Tarquinii.


538 5/17/2021 5:33:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message He ends there. Over to you
537 5/16/2021 11:59:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message It fails.
536 5/16/2021 11:59:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Rome:
Interception attempt by Hannibal:


535 5/16/2021 11:58:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message I will attempt an interception only with Hannibal and his force at Faesulae.


534 5/14/2021 8:06:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message (remember, you need to announce ALL intercept/avoid attempts BEFORE rolling any of them)
533 5/14/2021 8:05:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Mago ends there.
2. Hasdrubal to Massilia with 10CU
3. Hannibal et al to Tarquinii, reaction?
532 5/13/2021 11:37:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message It's smooth sailing for Mago.

531 5/13/2021 9:14:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #34: 3 / Major Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY THREE GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
1. Mago to Lily, sails to NC, weather forecast?
-2 -1 -1 -1 makes it unless you got a card
530 5/13/2021 12:34:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #27: 2 / I have come into Italy ...
(Carthage) Play if Hannibal is in Italy. Convert two Roman non-walled PCs into Carthaginian PCs in any space in Italy which does not contain Roman CUs.

Message from Rome:
I'll use this to activate Flaminius, who will initially move with 9 CUs as follows:

MP 1: Praeneste > Sena (pick up 1 CU; now 10; give the troops some beach time on the Adriatic)

MP 2: Sena > Praeneste with all 10 CUs

MP 3: Praeneste > Rome with all 10 CUs; drop 1 CU; give the other 9 CUs a short leave to hit the fleshpots

MP 4: Rome > Falerii with 9 CUs.

529 5/12/2021 8:21:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #4: 3 / Celtiberia Revolts
(Both) If your opponent controls Celtiberia, remove all his PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CU's.

Message from Carthage:
No worries :)
PC in Taurini, Emporiae, Nemausus
528 5/10/2021 11:56:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message I am not campaigning to go first.

527 5/10/2021 11:51:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message Finally -- Marcellus! I've been amazed at how rarely he seems to turn up (although I think I had him early on in this game, didn't I?).

Marcellus will go to Rome, and Flaminius will stay with his current army at Praeneste.

526 5/10/2021 11:49:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Rome:
Second Roman Consular Election:

1 - P. Scipio
2 - T. Longus
3 - F. Maximus
4 - Marcellus
5 - Varro
6 - A. Paulus


525 5/10/2021 11:45:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message Flaminius is returned to office again! Well, one can certainly do worse.



524 5/10/2021 11:44:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:
First Roman Consular Election:

1 - P. Scipio
2 - T. Longus
3 - G. Flaminius
4 - F. Maximus
5 - Marcellus
6 - Varro
7 - A. Paulus


523 5/10/2021 11:40:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message I'll designate Nero to continue as a Proconsul. Scipio Africanus does as well. Flaminius and Publius Scipio get removed.

522 5/10/2021 11:38:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message Reinforcements:

Carale: 1 CU with Nero (now 5 CUs)
Rome: 4 CUs with Publius Scipio (now 9 CUs)


521 5/10/2021 11:33:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message Sorry! I was completely stunned after realizing that I had blanked on leaving 1 CU in Taurini and picking up a replacement in Mutina when Scipio marched to Falerii.

Just when I think I've got a pretty good grasp of what I need to do . . . .

I'll remove the PC in Emporiae.


520 5/10/2021 11:26:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Jeff, you need first to place reinforcements and elect consuls before drawing cards ;)
519 5/10/2021 11:23:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

518 5/9/2021 7:41:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Set Deck Reshuffle Deck will not be reshuffled before next deal
517 5/9/2021 7:41:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

516 5/9/2021 7:41:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Set Deck Reshuffle Deck will be reshuffled before next deal
515 5/9/2021 7:40:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Reinforcements:
1 to Hannibal, total 10
2 to NC
1 to Hanno, total 5
514 5/9/2021 7:39:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage End Turn
513 5/9/2021 7:39:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message Isolation at Taurini
Province count 9-8, you got to remove one PC
512 5/9/2021 7:38:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #6: 1 / Marharbal's Cavalry
(Carthage) Play during any battle. You may use this card as a Double Envelopment BC which (if matched) does not automatically give the defender the initiative.

Message from Carthage:
PC in Ilerda
511 5/9/2021 12:34:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #60: 1 / Storms At Sea
(Both) Play after your opponent moves an Army or CUs using Sea Movement. The force suffers Attrition and the die roll must be modified by +2.

Message from Rome:
I'll use this to activate Nero, who will proceed on a tour of inspection with his staff about the newly pacified island of Sardinia, from Carales > Nuoro > Sassari (pick up 1 CU) > Oristano (pick up 1 CU) > Carales. Now 4 CUs at Carales.

510 5/7/2021 5:20:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Message No, he backs off
Over to you
509 5/6/2021 11:00:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message I'm getting confused between my two games (I'm playing Carthage in the other one).

That should have been, "Scipio will attempt an interception with his 10 CUs."

It succeeds. Will Hannibal stand and fight?

508 5/6/2021 10:54:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:
Yes -- Hannibal will attempt to intercept at Faesulae.

507 5/6/2021 6:42:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #53: 1 / Tribal Resistance
(Both) Remove any accrued Subjugation Points in any one Tribe space.

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal et al to Faesulae, intercept?
506 5/6/2021 12:01:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #4: 3 / Celtiberia Revolts
(Both) If your opponent controls Celtiberia, remove all his PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CU's.

Message from Rome:
I'll use this to place PCs in:

- Firmum Picenum
- Sena
- Aleria
505 5/5/2021 4:54:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #13: 2 / Bruttium Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Lucania

Message from Carthage:
Flip Panormus and Cosa
504 5/4/2021 11:21:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #18: 2 / Traitor in Tarentum
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to siege Tarentum, it comes under your control without a Siege die roll. Enemy CUs inside are eliminated.

Message from Rome:
I'll use this to activate Scipio, who will move with his army of 10 CUs from Boii > Mutina > Ariminium > Falerii.
503 5/4/2021 3:27:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Message Ends with 9 CU and Gisgo in Cosa. Over to you
502 5/3/2021 10:43:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message No cards to intefere with the remainder of your move.

501 5/3/2021 3:31:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Message Lost 1 CU, down to 9
Any card (like Hostile Tribes) before they continue the move?
500 5/3/2021 3:30:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Carthage:
Attrition 10 col -3 DRM
499 5/3/2021 3:30:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #5: 2 / Native Guide
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to move an Army, and the Army crosses a Mountain Pass, you may modify your Mountain Pass Attrition die roll by -3.

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal and Gisgo cross Alps, -3 to roll
498 5/2/2021 10:47:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #47: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Lucania)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if LUCANIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Rome:
Add 2 CUs to Flaminius's force in Praeneste: now 9 CUs.
497 5/2/2021 9:18:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #40: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
1. Mago picks up 1 CU at Lily, to Panormus
2. Gisgo with 2CU to Hannibal, total 10CU
496 5/1/2021 11:51:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message Hannibal loses 1 CU - now 8 CUs.

495 5/1/2021 11:50:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:

494 5/1/2021 11:49:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Event #51: 2 / Epidemic
(Both) One opposing Army must roll on the Attrition Table.

Message from Rome:
An epidemic strikes Hannibal's forces in Liguria.
493 4/30/2021 7:05:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #36: 2 / Diplomacy
(Both) Convert any one non-walled, non-tribal enemy PC Marker in a space without an enemy CU into a friendly PC Marker.

Message from Carthage:
Flip Pisae
492 4/29/2021 12:51:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #27: 2 / I have come into Italy ...
(Carthage) Play if Hannibal is in Italy. Convert two Roman non-walled PCs into Carthaginian PCs in any space in Italy which does not contain Roman CUs.

Message from Rome:
I'll use this card for PCs, flipping Taurini and Verona to Roman control.
491 4/27/2021 5:10:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #7: 1 / Hostile Tribes
(Both) Play whenever an opposing army occupies (or enters) space in Gallia Transalpinia or Liguria. The Army immediately undergoes Attrition on the 5-6 column.

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal to Ligurians (West tribe)
490 4/25/2021 11:59:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #29: 2 / Carthaginian Naval Victory
(Carthage) For the rest of the year a -1 die roll modifier for naval movement applies, and Roman Naval Movement is limited to Minor or Major Campaign Strategy Cards.

Message from Rome:
I'll use this to place Roman PCs in:

- Mutina
- Nuoro
489 4/22/2021 6:15:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #54: 2 / Treachery Within City
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to conduct a siege, you may roll twice on the Siege Table and use both results.

Message from Carthage:
Gisgo with 2CU to Massilia
488 4/22/2021 6:11:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message hiking a volcano; the black obsidian sand is really unique, and some lanscapes look like nothing else. And, probably, the best all-inclusive cuisine I've seen so far :)
487 4/22/2021 6:09:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message Thanks Jeff! I'd say it depends on whether you've already explored all of the Caribbean and Central/South America. I think, being on the East Coast, you got a better bang for a buck for places like Curacao or Dominican Republic: the water is warmer earlier, you don't get a 5h jetlag, and there is simply more stuff to see. The water around Canary Islands rn is barely swimmable - you could enjoy riding waves for 10 minutes, but not, like, snorkeling for half an hour :)

That being said, I really enjoyed
486 4/20/2021 12:01:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Message Enjoy your vacation in Tenerife!

I have been thinking lately that my wife and I should explore some of the Portuguese and Spanish islands in the Atlantic. They are actually a much shorter trip from the east coast of the United States than Hawaii is!

485 4/18/2021 11:54:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 3 / Carthaginian Siege Train
(Carthage) Place the Siege Train Marker with any Carthaginian General. A General with the Siege Train ignores the -1 die roll modifier applied against Carthaginian sieges.

Message from Rome:
I'll play this for PCs, which I will place as follows:

- Sassari
- Oristano
- Carales
484 4/18/2021 4:28:00 PM 209-207 BC Carthage Message ...and then they'll settle last moment? :) No worries, I'm currently at Tenerife until Thursday, so take your time, no rush :)
483 4/17/2021 10:58:00 PM 209-207 BC Rome Message Followed by an even longer wait from me, because I was gearing up for a 4-week trial slated to start on 4/20.

But the trial aborted at the last minute yesterday afternoon because of a Covid exposure of a member of one of the defense teams. Let me get some rest and get my mind around the game state again, and I'll try to get out a move tomorrow.

482 4/8/2021 8:10:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #16: 2 / Gallic Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Gallia Transalpinia or Cisalpinia

Message from Carthage:
Sorry for the looooong wait
2 to Hannibal, now at 9
481 4/3/2021 1:17:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Message Thank you, Peter -- I appreciate your sportsmanship.

But my thinking is that if I leave those spaces open for any length of time, there's nothing to stop you from dropping PCs in them. They would then again be isolated and removed at the end of the coming turn unless you are able to get troops to an adjacent space, but who knows? The turn is long, and you might be able to do that.

480 4/2/2021 4:16:00 AM 209-207 BC Carthage Message I believe FiPi and Sena were isolated and removed last turn, that being said, do you want to reconsider your last move?
479 4/2/2021 1:02:00 AM 209-207 BC Rome Message Oops. I need to correct some numbers and the route of march on that last move.

3. In Rome, I will activate Flaminius, who will move with 5 of the 10 CUs currently there to Falerii, where he will pick up the 4 CUs there, so his force now grows to 9 CUs. He will then continue to to Firmum Pioenum, where he will drop 1 CU; then to Sena with his remaining 8 CUs, and drop 1 CU there to assist in restoring order and rebuilding infrastructure damaged during the Carthaginian occupation; and finally continue to Praeneste where he goes into camp with 7 CUs.


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