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492 5/27/2020 10:55:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message I think I now see why I have never DOW Russia in 1940 ! :-)
491 5/27/2020 7:54:00 PM Turn 7 Mike Scott Message I very much appreciate your comment about the rules. I agree with you that it would be inappropriate to "spring" new rules on me that have not been visible to me from the beginning. Everything you sent before we started (Qs and As and Rules Mods) is fair game.
490 5/27/2020 7:50:00 PM Turn 7 Mike Scott Message Re Rumania: You can't use covert on your own roll. And your modified roll last time was DR2. So the net modifier this time is +1 for Baltic States. Since you rolled a 1, you again have a DR2.
489 5/27/2020 6:26:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message DOW
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Options East OFF/ Pass
West and med attritions

488 5/27/2020 6:25:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message OK So My Mod was only +2 because I named Rumania for a 3 result which is no Change
487 5/27/2020 4:36:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message can I swap those ? Hungary activates .
486 5/27/2020 4:35:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Michael Mitchell:
Hungary 1 Germany = +2 +1 Eastern Europe + 1 previous result net +4
485 5/27/2020 4:33:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message That was a terrible roll
484 5/27/2020 4:32:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Michael Mitchell:
Rumania roll from DP 1 point +1 Russia in Baltic Staes, + 1 previous 3 result net +3 DRM
483 5/27/2020 4:29:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message OK on the rules as I now think I have a better idea what the extent of your rules are. I am reluctant to spring new stuff on you as I probably have access to more changes than you. Italy uses their Covert to negate on Russian Romania DP


482 5/27/2020 3:17:00 PM Turn 7 Mike Scott Message Per Rules Mod 5.28, you cannot use a covert capability on a target you name.

I had noted in the past that I assumed a tacit agreement that we would use all the rules mods published in the file you sent me, and why would we not? As I recall, you did not disagree. So let's please agree, and not need to discuss again in the future, that those rules mods, which are visible to both of us and which you sent to me, all apply. Same with the Qs and As in the other file you sent me. If there is something optional, like research, then we would need to agree explicitly that they WOULD apply, or else they would not.
481 5/27/2020 3:02:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message OK will do the rolls this evening but I will probably use my covert to remove some USSR , wasn't sure we were using that rule.
480 5/27/2020 2:03:00 PM Turn 7 Mike Scott Message Rules mod 5.27 clearly shows Russians can use both covert capabilities at one time and in one country. The example is Rumania.
479 5/27/2020 2:00:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message I think you can only apply one covert action to a country?
478 5/27/2020 1:57:00 PM Turn 7 Mike Scott Message Oops - I meant Allies have no DPs on Hungary.
477 5/27/2020 1:56:00 PM Turn 7 Mike Scott Message Russia has 2 DPs on Rumania. In addition, Russia will apply its 2 covert actions per rules mods 5.291. So net result of DPs is: Your 2 doubled to 4, less 2 eliminated by Russian covert action, less 2 Russian DPs. Net modifier zero.
Allies have no DPs on Bulgaria.
476 5/27/2020 1:52:00 PM Turn 7 Mike Scott Message Your USA play is interesting. See the Qs and As for when modifiers are applied - at start of turn.
USA put 2 DPs on itself. Last turn the tension number was 38. At start of this turn your 6 DPs are applied, as are my 2. Then we add 2 for the new turn, and 1 for the unrestricted sub warfare. Net result -1, so the tension is at 37, which is no change to conditions.
475 5/27/2020 1:38:00 PM Turn 7 Michael Mitchell Message I name USA ( 5G+1I), Romania(1 +1) and Hungary (1G)
474 5/27/2020 1:18:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott End Turn
473 5/27/2020 11:46:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message This also means Russia gets 4 DPs this YSS.
472 5/27/2020 11:40:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message I miscalculated Russian BRPs in this YSS. By rule change 3.41, Russians get 15 BRPs for each IC, of which there are 10. So Russian BRP total is 15*10 + .3*107 (unused from 1940) + 25 (conquest) = 207. The Russian base, independent of ICs, at start of 1941 is 32 (was zero in 1940).
471 5/26/2020 2:12:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Allied DPs: US 3 (by rule), Britain 4, Russia 3.
470 5/26/2020 2:06:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message I sent you my calc for U.S. I believe rules are clear on how this is done. 150 + 10*turns - BRP grants
469 5/26/2020 11:04:00 AM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message DP points I see Germany at 9 and Italy at 2?

What do you show for allies?
468 5/26/2020 11:03:00 AM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message What is the current US track?
467 5/26/2020 9:46:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Russian base: 90+107*.3 = 122. Starts year with 122 + 25 = 147

British base: 125-26 = 99. Starts year with 99 + 15 = 114

US: BRP base and total: 170 at start of 1940 + 40 -15 (BRP grants) = 195
466 5/26/2020 9:37:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Just sent you EOT logfile. The Brit fleets in the ASW box returned to Rosyth, with 3 US fleets now in that box. On to YSS!
465 5/25/2020 10:23:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Unrestricted
464 5/25/2020 8:46:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Per revised rule 3.1, please state your intentions for next turn regarding submarine warfare, so I can deploy fleets.
463 5/25/2020 8:39:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message British BRP total end of this turn and post-ASW: -9 at start of turn -21 for bombing - 6 for subs + 10 US donation = -26
462 5/25/2020 8:37:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Result DR6, 40%. 5 subs x 3 x.4 = 6 BRPs removed for Brits. 4 subs and 2 escorts kia. I will reflect this in logfile.
461 5/25/2020 8:35:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Mike Scott:
SW resolution: Brits combine damaged fleets such that have 1x9ff in SW box. US also has 1, plus 1 US and 1 Brit ASW factor. Total 4, against 5 subs. 5:4 is less than 4:3, so there is no DR modifier this turn.
460 5/25/2020 5:45:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message yes that is what you listed sorry.
459 5/25/2020 5:44:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message your records show that the british loss 2 fleets in the box
458 5/25/2020 4:16:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Total losses are: Brits in Med 2, Italians 3. In North Sea Brits 1 and Germans 2. In SW box Germans lose 2 and Brits also lose 2.

I will finish turn and send you an EOT file.
457 5/25/2020 4:14:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Both raider go home you have had good dice on intercepts.
456 5/25/2020 4:10:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Second result: DR5 for Brits, DR8 for Germans. Germans lose 1/1, Brits also lose 1/1. I will continue the battle with 7 factors. Will you continue with 1?
455 5/25/2020 4:08:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message First result: DR4 for Brits, DR6 for Germans. Germans lose 1/1, Brits lose 1/0. I will continue with 8 factors. Will you continue with 1?
454 5/25/2020 4:04:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

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Message from Mike Scott:
Interception of raiders, second set. Br -1 then GE +1.

453 5/25/2020 4:03:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

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Message from Mike Scott:
Interception of raiders, first set. Br -1 then GE +1.
452 5/25/2020 3:58:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message What can you say? Both interceptions succeed.
451 5/25/2020 3:57:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Mike Scott:
1x9 FFs in SW box will seek to intercept each raider force. Modifier +1., so DR1 or 2 needed to intercept.
450 5/25/2020 3:54:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Since you did Brit roll before Italian, my roll DR9, yours DR5. My losses 2/4, yours 3/4. Think battle over and SR succeeds.
449 5/25/2020 3:51:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message germans send two raiders of 3 factors each
448 5/25/2020 3:47:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

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Message from Michael Mitchell:
. 23 factors against 18, net modifier +/-1 in my favor.
BR/It
447 5/25/2020 3:46:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Italian automatic air spotter .
446 5/25/2020 2:05:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Believe it is up to you to roll the Italian intercept, unless you rather I roll it. 23 factors against 18, net modifier +/-1 in my favor.
445 5/25/2020 2:03:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Results with modifier DR6 for Brits, DR9 for Germans. Germans lose 2/3, Brits lose 1/1. So your surviving factor goes home.
444 5/25/2020 2:00:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

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Message from Mike Scott:
British counter-intercept, 16 Brits and 3 Germans. First Brit rolls, then German. +/-1.
443 5/25/2020 1:58:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message You didn't say how many attempted to intercept. But guess does not matter since DR6.
442 5/25/2020 1:09:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Michael Mitchell:
germans counter intercept
441 5/25/2020 9:59:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message I'll still bring the whole bunch out from Rosyth - 16 factors.
440 5/25/2020 9:42:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Oops - it's 3 Germans. Stand by a moment while I redo the math.
439 5/25/2020 9:41:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message All remaining fleets in Rosyth counter-intercept the 4 Germans. Success certain. Counter counter?
438 5/25/2020 9:33:00 AM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Made
437 5/25/2020 9:33:00 AM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Message from Michael Mitchell:
German interception
436 5/25/2020 9:32:00 AM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message No my air stays home
435 5/25/2020 8:08:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Change in plan - the Malta fleet does not sortie.
434 5/25/2020 7:42:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message The 9-ff in Malta will counter-intercept the Italians at the intercepting hex - success in making the intercept is certain. I realize that is a separate fleet combat resolved before the intercept. So next steps are: 1. You decide whether air to participate, and against which fleet, 2. You resolve that as appropriate, 3. I resolve my counter-intercept, and 4. You resolve your intercept. Right?
433 5/25/2020 6:49:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Think you need to roll for success of your interception off Britain, then I will let you know about counter-interception.
432 5/25/2020 6:46:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Okay, got it. So your Italian interception is a sure thing. Do you wish your Italian air factor to join in?
431 5/24/2020 10:55:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Itlian intercept at range 8 with spotter air
430 5/24/2020 10:50:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message german intercepts one hex out of port
429 5/24/2020 10:49:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Germany sends 3 fleets to intercept
428 5/24/2020 10:48:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message all available IT fleets will intercpt
427 5/24/2020 8:51:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Shown in file just sent to you. Two sea interception opportunities: (1) 2 FFs from Rosyth escort an air factor to South Africa and remain there. (2) 18 FFs from Egypt escort 3 air factors to Malta. Intercept either?
426 5/24/2020 8:38:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message who is advancing?
425 5/24/2020 7:44:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Hexes to give up J37 and NN24. I will proceed, and you can move them wherever you wish.
424 5/24/2020 4:36:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message 1x MM24, REP K35
423 5/24/2020 4:26:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message DR3 both - a counter and a hex. Please specify a counter in med and east.
422 5/24/2020 4:26:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Mike Scott:
Allied attrition in east and med. 11-20 column on both.
421 5/24/2020 4:25:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message My movement sent to you. Two attrition rolls.
420 5/24/2020 1:40:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Yep that is it
419 5/24/2020 1:18:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message So the file you sent today is your end of turn, no seaborne SR, and over to me for my turn?
418 5/24/2020 9:49:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message I looked in spam and trash for EOT file you had sent last week. Did not find it. Please share the e-mail address from which you sent it so I can make a note of that in case you send that way again.
417 5/24/2020 9:47:00 AM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message The file you sent last night is EOT Spring 40 - not winter 40.
416 5/23/2020 10:02:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message unfortunately I sent it from my office so you might not have recognized it .
415 5/23/2020 8:58:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message If you sent your unit construction and SR for your winter 40 turn, I did not receive it. I have been waiting on that and probably would have asked you about it soon.
414 5/23/2020 7:24:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message You start of Winter 40?
413 5/23/2020 7:23:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message I haven't DOW Russia in 1940 !
412 5/19/2020 3:09:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message You haven't played ATR before?
411 5/19/2020 2:20:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message I haven't done this before that is why I pulled the trigger early!
410 5/19/2020 2:14:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Your German treachery knows no bounds! Well, I considered that possibility, since you tend toward early starts. But you did not have that many armor units over there in fall.
409 5/19/2020 2:07:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message yes, all trade offs for a winter DOW, the -1 DRM is nice but if I took it in spring because of the restrictions it really is not that helpful. Almost did a DOW in the fall which would have been interesting .
408 5/19/2020 1:53:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Another one is that your DoW this turn and then your obligation to do attrition because of weather means that you basically do not get to take advantage of the -1 modifier that the diplomatic result grants you the first turn of your invasion. Okay with me! Of course, you do get the -1 modifier on the winter roll a year sooner.
407 5/19/2020 1:41:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message I'm reading up on rules pertinent to Russian campaign now that you backstabbing Germans have blown off Russian pact. Your DoW against Russia in 1940 has some interesting impacts. I note 3.41 in the rules mods - Production value of each Russian IC goes up in 1941 YSS.
406 5/19/2020 1:29:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message British air battles: I lost 3 factors, you lost 7. BRP reduction due to bombing 21.
405 5/19/2020 1:26:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Yes, I put in 3 DPs, you 2. Net +1.
404 5/19/2020 1:24:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message did you figure in the DP points
403 5/19/2020 1:24:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Russian counters to remove: 2 1-3s next to Finland and 1 on the beach in Baltic States.
402 5/19/2020 1:22:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message At this point the US tensions are now 29 (end of last turn) + 2 (new turn) + 2 (German DoW on Russia) +1 (German offensive option) + 1 (bombing Britain) + 1 (reducing Brit BRPs by 20) + 1 (net application of Allied - German DPs) + 1 (Uboats) = 38.
Rules not clear to me on when this calc is done each turn. In absence of clear direction, it would seem reasonable for it to be real-time. The 38 means that US can give Brits 10 BRPs this turn. Also, US can immediately deploy 1 ASW factor and 1 fleet to the SW box. I will plan to do that. If you find a rule that speaks to when each turn the tensions are calculated, please let me know. I could not find it. The effects I note above of the current tension level are based on the tension table in the rules mod file you sent me.
401 5/18/2020 11:36:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message poor results for sure nothing and 3C
400 5/18/2020 11:35:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Michael Mitchell:
Attrit med 11
Attrit Ost ( east) 31
399 5/18/2020 11:34:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message Didn't intend to accuse you of anything. It is just human nature not to want to part with good results, I am the same.
398 5/18/2020 11:32:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message wow the british air have stepped up
397 5/18/2020 10:43:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Okay so the die roll difference is 6 in my favor. You only have 4 to lose, so I guess you lose 4 and I lose 2. Right?
396 5/18/2020 10:41:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Mike Scott:
British intercept German bombers (+1). brit roll first then German.
395 5/18/2020 10:40:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message The 4 British air factors not counteraired will defend, I will roll for that.
394 5/18/2020 10:38:00 PM Turn 6 Mike Scott Message Regarding your "Flip side" comment, I already agreed with your point about paying die rolls forward being a bad plan because it can change behavior. At the time I made the suggestion I did, I thought it was fair given that I thought your counterair not allowed. Using that roll in intercepting bombing would have increased my losses (and yours), but you could afford it more. If you go back to earlier situations, I have a time or two agreed to a redo in your favor. So I don't think I can be reasonably accused of deliberately slanting these kinds of things in my favor. (Not that you did accuse me, but...) Suggest we just accept that I made the suggestion on an erroneous premise, we both agreed it is best not to do business that way, and move on.
393 5/18/2020 8:20:00 PM Turn 6 Michael Mitchell Message There are times when we would keep a roll such as if you did attrition and misstated the table odds.

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