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124 5/22/2020 8:42:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 3

2
1
8


Message from Catholic:
first - Wallenstein - mercs +2 drm
second - Wallenstein - mercs +2 drm
third - Piccolomini - mercs +1 drm
123 5/22/2020 8:42:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Play Strategy card as Recruitment #5: 3 / Spain Declares War With England
-2 to all English AP totals.

Message from Catholic:
recruitment:
first - Wallenstein - mercs +2 drm
second - Wallenstein - mercs +2 drm
third - Piccolomini - mercs +1 drm
122 5/22/2020 8:06:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message Have now uploaded the logs
121 5/22/2020 7:41:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message Hi, I don't see file with your loss, retreat and your card play.
I added file #40 with my losses.
120 5/22/2020 5:56:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message Will be on a Staycation in Switzerland for the next 10 days so my game turnaround is likely to suffer until the week beginning 1 June
119 5/22/2020 5:51:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #1: 3 / Val Telline Passes Closed
Val Telline Passes must be Open to play this event. Duke of Savoy closes Val Telline passes. No Spanish Aid to Catholic player until Val Telline Passes Open Card is played.

Message from Protestant:
Activate Mansfeld – place PILL Dresden MP1 move Torgau Place PILL MP2 Magdeburg – drop 1 MIL MP3 – Werben – MP4 – Lόneberg – MP5 – Hamburg – drop Anhalt +1 MERC – MP6 Lόbeck
118 5/22/2020 5:37:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message Leader Loss Check
1. CATH - Tilly
2. Holk
3. Aldringer
4. Pappenheim
5. PROT - Christian
All survive

117 5/22/2020 5:28:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 5

7
5
5
3
2


Message from Protestant:
Leader Loss Check
1. CATH - Tilly
2. Holk
3. Aldringer
4. Pappenheim
5. PROT - Christian


116 5/22/2020 5:14:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

1
4


Message from Protestant:
Well this is where my cunning plan falls to the ground ☹
Battle of Pilsen
CATHS AF 21 drms +2 Tilly
PROTS DF 13 drm = 0

115 5/20/2020 4:08:00 PM 1624-1625 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #12: 1 / Frederick of Palatine Deposed as Elector
Catholic player must control Lower Palatine. Transfer Electorate marker from Palatine to Bavaria. Bavaria is an electorate for the rest of the game.

Message from Catholic:
Tilly is on the move. Battle and no Combat cards from me.
114 5/20/2020 4:01:00 PM 1624-1625 Catholic Message sorry. It is in your last message... :)

113 5/20/2020 4:01:00 PM 1624-1625 Catholic Message Hi,
Did you upload file with applying your loses? I can't see it.

112 5/20/2020 6:50:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message Well that was my last chance to relieve Prague - Flip 2 Danish Mercs
111 5/20/2020 5:25:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message ok, please apply your losses before I play my card.
110 5/20/2020 5:22:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 5

8
3
3
7
0


Message from Catholic:
leaders
1 - Wallenstain (8)
2 - Charles of L. (8)
3 - Thurn (8)
4 - Schlick (8)
5 - Christian IV (8)

losses if roll > than loss rating
109 5/20/2020 5:19:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message both sides 6 losses
108 5/20/2020 5:18:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

2
1


Message from Catholic:
Attacker - Protestant - col. 15-19 +0 drm
Defender - Catholic - col. 15-19 +2 drm for leader, -1 for combat card.

107 5/20/2020 5:11:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message No combat cards from me
106 5/19/2020 9:40:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Play Strategy card as Combat #13: 1 / Command Rivalry
Catholic army must contain at least 2 leaders. -1 to Catholic combat die-roll.

Message from Protestant:
2nd Battle of Prague
105 5/19/2020 9:37:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #4: 2 / New Leader
Deploy Frederick of Baden and 2 Protestant Militia in Baden. Baden enters game as Protestant area.

Message from Protestant:
Activate Christian MP1 Pilsen Place Pill MP2Budweis place Pill – MP3 Pilsen – MP4 attack Wallenstein in Prague CC follows
104 5/17/2020 2:38:00 PM 1624-1625 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

2


Message from Catholic:
roll for siege: +2 for continuous sige marker.
103 5/17/2020 2:36:00 PM 1624-1625 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #13: 1 / Discretion Over Valor
If Catholic VP total is higher than 21, remove Anhalt permanently from the game.

Message from Catholic:
Wallenstein activated for siege
102 5/16/2020 4:20:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message No I eventually understood what had happened :-)

I have reconciled in my last log
101 5/16/2020 3:59:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message Ok, I went through logs and I see the confusion now.
I rolled dice as usual: attacker, then defender and I implemented results that way. But in message I messed up order and mentioned defender first.

If you want we can roll a die to decide which way to go.
Up to you.

For future rolls I suggest to keep the rule that attacker is always first. The same as order of combat cards play. Attacker first, than defender.

Sorry for the confusion.
100 5/16/2020 2:51:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message Log up -- have kept the Leader drs
99 5/16/2020 2:42:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message You stated the die rolls as 1st Cath 2nd Prot

"Catholic - col. 15-19 +2 drm
Protestant - col. 20 +2 drm"

I thought it a bit unconventional. Looking at it again it is obvious to me you made a mistake. I will re-adjust the log.

98 5/16/2020 2:28:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message 1. PROT - Mansfield (8) -6
2. Anhalt(8) – 8 survives? Did we agree you loss rule?
3. Thun (8) -5
4. Schlik(8) -1
5. CATH – Wallenstein (8)-5
6. Charles (8)-3

97 5/16/2020 2:27:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 6

6
8
5
1
5
3


Message from Protestant:
1. PROT - Mansfield (8)
2. Anhalt(8)
3. Thun (8)
4. Schlik(8)
5. CATH – Wallenstein (8)
6. Charles (8)

96 5/16/2020 2:15:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message What do you mean?

The result was 1 on a first die and 7 on second die.
You were the attacker.

95 5/16/2020 2:15:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message I have made a mistake - Thun’s rating is not used so the result is 9 = 10 losses for the Cath – you need to take 4 additional losses and retreat (I,e 3 losses)


94 5/16/2020 2:11:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message I have redone the Combat Calculation from log 32
Catholic – strength = 20 col. 20 +2 drm dr 1 = 3 – 9 losses for Prot
Protestant – strength = 19 col. 15/19 +1Mnsfeld+1Thun +1 CC +3 drm dr 7 = 10 – 12 losses for Cath
Yes you need to lose an additional 6 losses and retreat. I will also roll for leader loss


93 5/16/2020 2:00:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message I think you have the losses the wrong way round

Catholic - col. 15-19 +2 drm dr 1 = 3 – 8 losses for Prot
Protestant - col. 20 +2 drm dr 7 = 9 – 12 losses for Cath

you need to lose and additional 6 losses and to retreat.
92 5/15/2020 8:01:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message back to you for applying losses
91 5/15/2020 8:00:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message 8 losses for me, 12 losses for you and retreat.

90 5/15/2020 7:56:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

1
7


Message from Catholic:
Catholic - col. 15-19 +2 drm
Protestant - col. 20 +2 drm
89 5/15/2020 7:55:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Message no cards from me.

88 5/12/2020 5:05:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Play Strategy card as Combat #12: 1 / Surprise Attack
+1 to Protestant combat die roll.

Message from Protestant:
For Battle of Prague - over to you to reconcile.
87 5/12/2020 4:59:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #5: 2 / Gregory XV Becomes Pope
Playable only if Paul V is Pope. Death of Paul V. No Papal Aid to Catholic player this turn. Papal Aid resumes next turn, until Urban VIII Becomes Pope event (P-15).

Message from Protestant:
Activate Mansfeld – M1 Dresden place PILL in Torgau and Dresden – move to attack Wallenstein in Prague – I will play a CC
86 5/12/2020 4:56:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

4


Message from Protestant:
Forgot PILL recovery
85 5/12/2020 4:53:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Draw Strategy cards NOTE: The deck was reshuffled on this deal.
84 5/12/2020 4:52:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Change Victory Points -5: from 21 to 16
83 5/12/2020 4:44:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message Leipzig falls
82 5/12/2020 4:43:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

5


Message from Protestant:
Continued Siege Segment - Leipzig
81 5/12/2020 4:37:00 AM 1624-1625 Protestant Message According to the rules a LOC can NEVER be traced into: A City with an enemy force (whether besieging or masking). But can a LOC be traced OUT of a City with an enemy force? I have checked the Forum om BGG without success. I would suggest that besieging forces can trace a LOC. Besieged forces in supply centres like Leipzig and Prague also have an LOC can be paid. Besieged forces in other fortresses cannot trace a LOC out of the city. I have calculated my FAP costs on this basis. Do you agree?
80 5/11/2020 11:25:00 AM 1624-1625 Catholic Draw Strategy cards NOTE: The deck was reshuffled on this deal.
79 5/11/2020 11:25:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic End Turn
78 5/11/2020 11:25:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message ok, I'm done. Go ahead with your pay segment and siege.

77 5/11/2020 11:22:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

0


Message from Catholic:
my recovery roll
76 5/11/2020 11:21:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

3


Message from Catholic:
Prague siege +1
75 5/11/2020 11:20:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

6
0


Message from Catholic:
My Loot segment:
1st die - Prague net DRM +1
2nd die - Vienna net DRM 0
74 5/11/2020 11:16:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 3

1
4
3


Message from Catholic:
Mercs recruitment:
2x Piccolomini +1
1x Wallenstein +2
73 5/11/2020 11:15:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Play Strategy card as Recruitment #1: 3 / Val Telline Passes Open
Val Telline Passes must be Closed to play this card. Spanish Aid to Catholic player resumes.

Message from Catholic:
Mercs recruitment:
2x Piccolomini +1
1x Wallenstein +2
72 5/11/2020 10:47:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Play Strategy card as Event #8: 1 / Ottoman Turks Raid Imperial Border
Imperial units in Austria are not automatically paid this turn.

Message from Protestant:
71 5/11/2020 3:44:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

1


Message from Catholic:
Rolling for sige combat.
No modifiers
70 5/11/2020 3:43:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #13: 1 / Discretion Over Valor
If Catholic VP total is higher than 21, remove Anhalt permanently from the game.

Message from Catholic:
activating Wallenstein for sige combat
69 5/9/2020 6:09:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message I have moved Wallenstein Influence to 3 for winning the battle of Prague. I forgot to place 2 PILL in Brόnn.
68 5/9/2020 5:58:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Play Strategy card as Foreign Aid #10: 1 / Swedish Aid
Sweden give money to Protestants. Protestant player receives 6 additional Aid Points this turn.

Message from Protestant:
67 5/7/2020 10:30:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message back to you
66 5/7/2020 10:28:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message all good
65 5/7/2020 10:28:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 4

6
3
7
0


Message from Catholic:
Leaders:
1st Wallenstain
2nd Charles of L.
3rd Thurn
4th Schlick
64 5/7/2020 10:27:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message Losses - 10 to 6
63 5/7/2020 10:26:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

4
4


Message from Catholic:
First die - Catholic - col. 20+ +3 (leader and card)
Second die - Protestant - col. 8-10 +2 (leader and card)
62 5/7/2020 10:24:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Play Strategy card as Combat #33: 1 / Croats
Catholic army must include an Imperial unit. +1 to Catholic combat die roll.

Message from Catholic:
61 5/7/2020 8:13:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message I have not made a log
60 5/7/2020 8:12:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Play Strategy card as Combat #12: 1 / Surprise Attack
+1 to Protestant combat die roll.

Message from Protestant:
There will be a battle and I will play this card and retreat into the fortress if anything survives
59 5/7/2020 7:10:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #12: 1 / Frederick of Palatine Deposed as Elector
Catholic player must control Lower Palatine. Transfer Electorate marker from Palatine to Bavaria. Bavaria is an electorate for the rest of the game.

Message from Catholic:
Wallenstain is on the move. You have to decide if there is a battle or siege.
I will play a card base on your decision.

BTW - I forgot to place pillage marker. Please place it for me in Brunn (2 pillage).
58 5/6/2020 4:07:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message Over to you for your move
57 5/6/2020 4:04:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message Christian of Brunswick dies --- a serious loss for the Protestants ☹
56 5/6/2020 4:03:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 3

9
2
6


Message from Protestant:
We need to roll for Leader Loss
Christiam Brun (7)
Christian IV (8)

Johm G (8)

55 5/5/2020 6:34:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message over to you to apply your losses
54 5/5/2020 6:30:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message 8 losses to 4 losses
53 5/5/2020 6:29:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

2
4


Message from Catholic:
first die - Prot
second die - Cath

P - col 15-19 +1 drm for Leader
C - col 5-7 - no drm
52 5/5/2020 6:27:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message ok, so I'm not playing cc also
51 5/5/2020 6:07:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message No CC for the Prots
50 5/4/2020 4:55:00 PM 1622-1623 Catholic Message I'm not hiding into fortress. It is a battle!!!
attacker plays combat cards first.
49 5/4/2020 10:58:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message Apologies - new log posted
48 5/4/2020 8:48:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Message you didn't move any of your troops.
47 5/4/2020 5:33:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #13: 1 / Command Rivalry
Catholic army must contain at least 2 leaders. -1 to Catholic combat die-roll.

Message from Protestant:
Activate the 2 Christians + 7 units . MP1 Halberstad place PILL / MP2 Lutzen Place PILL / MP3 Convert Lutzen – Saxony joins Protestants/ MP4 Lay siege to Leipzig
46 5/2/2020 7:43:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Play Strategy card as Event #11: 3 / Spinola Recalled to Netherlands
Remove Spinola (if Spinola has died in battle, select any Spanish leader) and 3 Spanish units to the United Provinces. Allows Spinola Besieges Bergen and Spinola Besieges Breda cards to be played.

Message from Catholic:
45 5/1/2020 7:35:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Play Strategy card as Foreign Aid #6: 3 / England Intervenes
Deploy English Veteran unit in any Protestant-controlled city in Lower Palatinate.

Message from Protestant:
15 FAPs
44 4/30/2020 2:50:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Play Strategy card as Event #10: 2 / New Leaders
Deploy Aldringer and Holk with and Bavarian units.

Message from Catholic:
43 4/29/2020 9:33:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #5: 2 / Gregory XV Becomes Pope
Playable only if Paul V is Pope. Death of Paul V. No Papal Aid to Catholic player this turn. Papal Aid resumes next turn, until Urban VIII Becomes Pope event (P-15).

Message from Protestant:
Activate Christian of Denmark who moves to Brunswick
42 4/29/2020 6:13:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Play Strategy card as Event #7: 3 / New Leaders
Deploy Wallenstein and Piccolimini with any Imperial units.

Message from Catholic:
41 4/29/2020 6:08:00 AM 1622-1623 Catholic Draw Strategy cards
40 4/29/2020 5:06:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

6


Message from Protestant:
BRUNSWICK = 3 MIL = 3 APs – Unpaid drms = 0
39 4/29/2020 5:04:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message TORGAU = 5 x Mercs = 10 APs + 1MIL = 1AP = 11APs – PAID = 1 MIL + 3 MERCs = 7APs - APs left = 0APs – 2 Mercs Unpaid drms +1Mercs -1 Mansefield = 0 drms = 7 PILL1 +1 Step loss
38 4/29/2020 5:03:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

7


Message from Protestant:
TORGAU = 5 x Mercs = 10 APs + 1MIL = 1AP = 11APs – PAID = 1 MIL + 3 MERCs = 7APs - APs left = 0APs – 2 Mercs Unpaid drms +1Mercs -1 Mansefield = 0 drms
37 4/29/2020 5:02:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message TOTAL available APs = 11
PRAGUE = 4 MIL = 4APs – PAID – APs left = 7APs
TORGAU = 5 x Mercs = 10 APs + 1MIL = 1AP = 11APs – PAID = 1 MIL + 3 MERCs = 7APs - APs left = 0APs – 2 Mercs Unpaid drms +1Mercs -1 Mansefield = 0 drms
BRUNSWICK = 3 MIL = 3 APs - Unpaid
DANES = Locally Paid

36 4/29/2020 4:47:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Message Igor I made a BIG mistake about paying my units for GT1. I treated them as being locally paid whereas I HAVE to have a LOC to pay my units. I will send another log in which I deal with this issue.
35 4/28/2020 10:32:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Play Strategy card as Event #9: 3 / Richelieu Becomes Chief Minister of France
Begin French Aid to Protestant player. Allows play of Sweden Enters War event (P-18).

Message from Protestant:
34 4/28/2020 10:29:00 AM 1622-1623 Protestant Draw Strategy cards
33 4/28/2020 10:28:00 AM 1620-1621 Protestant End Turn
32 4/28/2020 10:26:00 AM 1620-1621 Protestant Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

6


Message from Protestant:
All PROT units are in supply without use of FAPs PILL recovery.
31 4/27/2020 11:16:00 AM 1620-1621 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

0


Message from Catholic:
pillage recovery roll
30 4/27/2020 11:16:00 AM 1620-1621 Catholic Message End of turn. No sieges. I'm automatically paid. I will also roll for pillage removal for myself.
29 4/27/2020 11:12:00 AM 1620-1621 Catholic Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

3
9


Message from Catholic:
both rolls +1
Mercs, Tilly
28 4/27/2020 11:11:00 AM 1620-1621 Catholic Play Strategy card as Recruitment #4: 2 / Spinola Besieges Breda
Spinola Recalled to Netherlands card must have been played previously. Must be first Catholic card play of turn if played as Event. +1 to Dutch War Track. If no Protestant army enters United Provinces this turn, +1 to Dutch War Track at end of turn.

Message from Catholic:
recruitment. One more time. 2x Tilly - Mercs
27 4/27/2020 10:29:00 AM 1620-1621 Protestant Play Strategy card as Operations #1: 3 / Val Telline Passes Closed
Val Telline Passes must be Open to play this event. Duke of Savoy closes Val Telline passes. No Spanish Aid to Catholic player until Val Telline Passes Open Card is played.

Message from Protestant:
Activate Mansfeld place PILL in Pilsen - MP1 – Prague/MP2 and 3 – Overrun Dresden/ auto convert/ place PILL/MP4 – Torgau /MP5 – convert
26 4/27/2020 10:28:00 AM 1620-1621 Protestant Change Victory Points +2: from 19 to 21
25 4/24/2020 9:17:00 AM 1620-1621 Catholic Play Strategy card as Operations #9: 2 / New Leader
Spinola Recalled to Netherlands card must have been played previously. Deploy Cordoba and 3 Spanish Veteran units in Spanish Netherlands.

Message from Catholic:
Activating force in Vienna

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