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272 7/22/2020 3:07:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Message Okay so that's a 2. ANV to 6. Union SP and fort eliminated.
You may proceed.
271 7/22/2020 3:06:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Union:
Attacker's result is auto 3*
Defender result on this roll w/ +2 for the fort.
270 7/21/2020 6:35:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Message yes you stated you didn't know how many losses it took.
269 7/21/2020 6:16:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Message Oh i see what you mean, you're saying it ends at 10 after taking 1 loss. Got it.
268 7/21/2020 6:15:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Message Wait load that save file I sent -- doesn't AoP only *start* with 4 at beginning of that move?
267 7/21/2020 6:05:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Operations #96: 2 / Strategy Board
Union player may make a naval move with up to three SPs plus one general.

Message from Confederate:
ANV 1, SrTrasburg +1 n 5
2. Culpepper +1 +cav n 7
3, Wilderness +1 N8 attack Manassas
266 7/21/2020 6:02:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Message Lynchburg auto 1-1 AOP end with 10 SP
265 7/21/2020 12:07:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Operations #101: 3 / Chickamauga
Confederate Player may move 5 SPs using Strategic Movement (rail connections only) to the same space with a Confederate General who is then activated and must attempt to enter a space with at least one or more Union SPs or fort. If a general casualty occurs in a battle caused by this card, the Commanding General is eligible, this is an exception to the rules. See 4.5.

Message from Union:
T5 U1 - Well I guess I'd better try to save this army...
AoP n4
1. Lynchburg

And then if those guys don't kick my butt, then:
2. Wytheville
3. PC Wytheville
4. Lewisburg p Pope & 1sp (n5)
5-6. Grafton end n11 (minus losses Lynchburg)

Will email my current save file

264 7/19/2020 11:01:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Message please send a file.with your move.
263 7/19/2020 11:00:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Message OK change ANV 4 Sp AOW 5 proceed
262 7/19/2020 10:57:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Message I do not campaign
261 7/18/2020 6:34:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Draw Strategy cards 7 cards drawn.

260 7/18/2020 6:33:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Message And based on 229/232/234 I had AoW ending at n2, so +2 would make n4 not n6?

If this revises your SR, totally no problem just let me know. And/or if I made a mistake in the journal.

I'll hold off my first move until we're set on map.
259 7/18/2020 6:31:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Message Based on 241 I had ANV ending at n1, so +4 would make n5 now not n6?
258 7/18/2020 6:28:00 PM Summer 1862 Union Message Pleasonton and Rosencrans both to DC
257 7/15/2020 7:10:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Message I do not Campaign
256 7/15/2020 7:09:00 PM Summer 1862 Confederate Draw Strategy cards 7 cards drawn.

255 7/15/2020 7:09:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate End Turn
254 7/15/2020 7:09:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Price AOW < Longstreet ANV
Jackson to Wilmingeto
253 7/15/2020 7:08:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Die roll request Request: 100-sided die x 3

48
82
100


Message from Confederate:
Longstreet Jackson and Price
Largest to AOW
Smallest to ANV
other to Wilmington
252 7/15/2020 7:06:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message OK set up

SR Columbus Ga 1 SP n1
N>O.
Baldwin
Charleston
Marion
Atlanta 2 SP n0
to
1SP Culpepper
4 SP ANV n 6
2SP AOW n 6
251 7/13/2020 12:38:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message looks like my play, I have been derelict , move tonight.
250 7/4/2020 2:56:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Okay that's what I thought (but forgot about forts). I'm good to go then.
249 7/4/2020 2:40:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message you can not remove the last SP from a general except a general may be in a fort that has no SP
248 7/4/2020 1:14:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Haha, always the phase I dread, having to find all those cities! :) Getting better at it...

Union strategic movement
-2 Cincinnati
-2 Columbus
-2 Jackson
-3 Cairo
-1 Jonesborough
-1 St. Louis
-1 Louisburg

+5 Grafton n6
+4 AoT n6
+3 DC n11

I'm *pretty sure* I'm not allowed to pull the last SP out of somewhere that there's a General during this phase (e.g. Cairo). If I'm wrong let me know because I'd do a teeny bit more SR if so.
247 7/2/2020 10:42:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Richmond
Weldon
Marion
Memphis n 1+cav
Panola
Mobile
ATL 2
Baldwin
Madison
Wilmington
Charleston
Columbus Ga n 2
N>O

246 7/2/2020 10:23:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Oh yes you're right. I thought I was double-attritioning them but forgot they were starting in 2SP to begin with.
245 7/2/2020 10:12:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message I believe AOP get double attrition no LOC n 4 SP


244 7/2/2020 9:11:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Union Reinforcements
8 to DC n8
2 Cincinnati
2 Jackson OH
2 Columbus
1 St Louis (n2)
2 Cairo (n4)
1 Jonesborough
243 7/2/2020 9:08:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Okay, so it looks like Wilderness, Culpeper, Strasburg and Franklin go CSA.

Union Attrition
Lewisburg -1 n2
AoP -2 n5
AoT -1 n2
Cairo -1 n2

242 6/30/2020 10:13:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Correction I am going to leave Morgan in Culpepper and the SP in Strasburg
241 6/30/2020 10:11:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message ANV N 4 SP
2. PC hanover
3. Wilderness -1 SP n 3
4. Culpepper -1 SP n 2 Cav
5. Strasburg drop Morgan n1 Cav
6. End in Franklin
240 6/30/2020 10:07:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message attacker +4 General + 4 Odds = +8 3*-3 I win
239 6/30/2020 10:07:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Union:
Rosecrans dies on a 1
238 6/30/2020 10:07:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message 3*-3
237 6/30/2020 10:06:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Oh you had more plusses for ratio, +9 or something
236 6/30/2020 10:05:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6


Message from Union:
Attacker +5 (or is it +4? Can you use 2 Cav generals? I assume yes)
Defender +3

235 6/30/2020 9:59:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message ANV attack Rosey
234 6/30/2020 9:22:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Final status
AoW n2 Williamsburg
Rosecrans n1 Hanover
233 6/30/2020 9:20:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
5


Message from Union:
CSA casualties 1-3
USA casualties 1
232 6/30/2020 9:15:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Almost :-)
3*-2
231 6/30/2020 9:15:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4


Message from Union:
Attacker +7
Defender +3
230 6/30/2020 9:14:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Union:
Intercept
229 6/30/2020 8:55:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Event #88: 3 / Minor Campaign
Conduct up to two moves or conduct one special army-size naval move. No SP, general, or army marker may be moved twice with the same campaign card. You must move a different force each move.

Message from Confederate:
AOW 5 SP drop 1 SP n 4 1-4 Richmond + Polk Beau Bragg
5. Williamsburg
6. Attack Hanover
228 6/30/2020 8:12:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message dang every time my computer restarts My download of your module goes away, can I trouble you for current map! I am going to put it on my lap top and see if that works as it doesn't go off during a storm..
227 6/28/2020 9:06:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Operations #7: 1 / Mud March
Interrupt enemy force currently moving to no more than one space of movement. (Converting a space counts as movement.) Applies to only one move during a Major or Minor campaign card, but not a special army-naval move.

Message from Union:
Fort Charlottesville
226 6/26/2020 5:30:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Operations #49: 3 / CSS Alabama, Commerce Raider
Union SW reduced by two.

Message from Confederate:
fort in Memphis
225 6/26/2020 5:28:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message
Amphibious Assault vs Forts

I would reference folks back to my msg 6732 where I laid out the designer intent and analysis behind these interactions. From a pratical point of view I went back and made a matrix of all possible situations just to make sure that I had it right. I will include that here, so the details are evident and then the broader way to easily rule on this should become evident.

There are two basic cases, ungarrisoned fort and garrisioned fort. With three exceptions, the outcome doesn't change whether there are 1, 2 or 3 Union SP. The results are written result versus attacker/ defender.

Ungarrisoned Fort
1-0: In this case the Amphibious invasion fails because the fort wins the battle under rule 7.32, and the Union loses 1sp.
0-1: In this case the Amphibious invasion wins, due to 7.32, the Union SP survives and remains in the fort space.
0-0: In this case the Amphibious invasion wins, due to rule 6.81, where the Amphibious invasion wins ties and has a surviving SP.
1-1: This is a case for ungarrisoned forts, where the number of invading SPs makes a difference in the outcome. If there is only 1 Union SP the Amphibious invasion fails, due to rule 7.32, and 6.81 does not apply since there are no surviving SP. If there are 2 or more Union SP, then the Amphibious invasion suceeds due to 6.81 since there is a surviving Union SP.
1-1*: If there is 1 Union SP, the invasion fails, because 7.34 does not apply, but 7.33 does, since there is a surviving defending zero SP. If there is 2 or more Union SP, the Amphibious invasion suceeds due to 7.32. The asterisk breaks the tie in favor of the attacker and there are surviving Union SP.
2-Any: This result is rare, but the Amphibious invasion fails due to 7.32.


Garrisoned Fort
1-0: The Amphibious invasion fails, due to 7.32.
0-1: The Amphibious invasion suceeds due to 7.32.
0-0: The Amphibious invasion fails due to 7.32.
1-1: The Amphibious invasion fails due to 7.32. Rule 7.34 does not apply because the defender is not eliminated due to the zero SP fort.
1-1*: This is the one case for garrisoned forts where the number of Union SP changes the outcome. If there is 1 Union SP, the invasion fails, because 7.34 does not apply, but 7.33 does, since there is a surviving defending zero SP. If there is 2 or more Union SP, the Amphibious invasion suceeds due to 7.32. The asterisk breaks the tie in favor of the attacker and there are surviving Union SP.
2-Any: The Amphibious invasion fails due to 7.32.


Broad Rules of Thumb
Having written this all out, there is no case where 1 Union SP can capture the fort (garrisoned or ungarrisioned) if it is eliminated. In the ungarrisioned fort case 1 Union SP can only win if it survives because the fort rolled a zero attrition result (only possible if the fort modifier is totally neutralized). The only times that having two or more Union SP changes the results is versus an ungarrisioned fort in a tie battle outcome (0-0 or 1-1) OR a 1/1* result AND a garrisioned fort where an asterisk result occurs, as in any normal battle. The first of these two differences is an important one since a 1-1 result is a common outcome in 2SP versus ungarrisioned fort battles.

I hope this clarifies and unknots this issue. I do not believe I have ever ruled differently, but this analysis covers all cases and is internally consistent.

The one extra point that I will add is the way in which 6.42 supercedes 7.33. This has unique situation and has no bearing on any of the fort cases. It applies specifically to when you invade a non-fort space that is defended by 1 CSA SP versus 2 or more Union SP. If the CSA wins the battle, but the CSA SP is eliminated, the surviving Union SPs retreat instead of taking the space ala 7.33, because 6.42 whereby an Amphibious invasion that loses is retreated, takes precedence over the fact that there are surviving Union SPs in the now vacant space.

I hope that covers the waterfront. Let me know,
224 6/26/2020 5:27:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message when attacking an ungarrisoned fort you win if you have two SP ,
223 6/23/2020 11:22:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message I dunno I'm shaky on Amphibious.

I see him with a +1 for commander, +4 for ungarrisoned fort. But you have fort which is somehow a "+2" in some "Net" thing I don't fully understand (so is it -2 to me, or +2 to you?)
222 6/23/2020 11:18:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message isn't his auto 1-1?
221 6/23/2020 11:15:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Event #95: 2 / Strategy Board
Union player may make a naval move with up to three SPs plus one general.

Message from Union:
Buell n2 to Fort Morgan.

(I'd better have you figure the DRMs)
220 6/23/2020 11:14:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Columbus n 2 SP
219 6/23/2020 11:05:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Operations #56: 1 / CSS Hunley
Place the CSS Hunley marker in any friendly port. Provides a +1 DRM to Confederate during next amphibious assault. Remove Hunley once modifier has been used. No more than one Hunley can be in play at a given time.

Message from Confederate:
Little Rock SP to Columbus
218 6/23/2020 11:03:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Oh, right! I was looking for someone with a defense factor to leave there so I guess I would have probably arranged to leave Rosecrans there (even though now I wish he were somewhere else), so I guess let's do it that way.
217 6/23/2020 10:53:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message You need to drop someone else into Hanover McClelland can not leave the Army as he is senior.
216 6/23/2020 10:48:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Large battel CSA *80- +3 +2 =85=
USA 120+ -5 -3 = 112-
215 6/23/2020 10:38:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message #3 Pope n4
1-2. Hanover d1 (n4)
3-7. Lewisburg
Stop (n3)

Should have left Rosencrans with Pope, but "that's how we learn"
214 6/23/2020 10:33:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message 4 to 5
213 6/23/2020 10:32:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
3


Message from Union:
Attacker's Die (+2)
Defender's Die (+6)
212 6/23/2020 10:30:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message we fight roll
211 6/23/2020 10:28:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Haha yes, a little luck the other way...

#2 AoP n12 (Hanover n3, leave McClellan in Hanover)
1-2. Charlottesville p Rosencrans
3. Lynchburg
210 6/23/2020 10:23:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message that is better

209 6/23/2020 10:20:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message 1 to 3
208 6/23/2020 10:19:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
5


Message from Union:
Attacker's Die (+3 for Halleck and ratio)
Defender's Die (+3 for Pemberton and fort)
207 6/23/2020 10:16:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Roll
206 6/23/2020 10:12:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Event #84: 3 / Major Campaign
Conduct up to three moves or conduct one special army-size naval move. No SP, general, or army marker may be moved twice with the same campaign card. You must move a different force each move.

Message from Union:
Event

#1: Pope n6
1. PC Paducah
2. Attack Columbus ...
205 6/23/2020 10:06:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Pope now n4
AoW now n9
204 6/23/2020 10:05:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Pope and gang retreat to Charlottesville
203 6/23/2020 10:03:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 100-sided die x 1

68


Message from Union:
Forrest: 1-50
Smith: 51-100
202 6/23/2020 10:01:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
5


Message from Union:
Confederate Casualty on 1-3
Union Casualty on 1
201 6/23/2020 10:00:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message 3* to 1
200 6/23/2020 9:59:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
6


Message from Union:
Attackers Die +7
Defenders Die

Medium Battle
199 6/23/2020 9:48:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Operations #64: 1 / USS Kearsarge sinks USS Alabama
Union SW increased by one.

Message from Confederate:
lee attacks Lynchburg
198 6/23/2020 9:45:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message you have been very lucky with the dice!
197 6/23/2020 8:48:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message ... continuing
4. Paducah
5. Cairo (p2) (Cairo n3)
6. Paducah n6


196 6/23/2020 8:45:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Fort eliminated
CSA -1 to 84
USA +1 (and +2) to 120
195 6/23/2020 8:43:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message So, pretty much dead-on average? ;-)

2* to 1


194 6/23/2020 8:42:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
1


Message from Union:
Attacker Roll (+1)
Defender Roll (+3)
193 6/23/2020 8:03:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message you can roll
192 6/23/2020 8:03:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Confederate:
Van dorn intercepts 1-2
191 6/23/2020 7:43:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Operations #74: 2 / Political Crisis
The Union player may remove or demote one Union general for no SW cost. The cost for promoting a general with a lower political value still applies. OR remove ANY Union non-commanding general (even second in commands) from the game.

Message from Union:
Pope n5
1. Clarksville
2. PC
3. Dover...
190 6/23/2020 7:17:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message I think Pope activated on first AR w/ corps and moved back to BG with them. Reorg came next round. I think.
189 6/23/2020 6:51:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Operations #40: 3 / Emergency Call for Volunteers
Union receives five SPs, no more than two SPs in any space. Placement spaces must be friendly controlled, have a LOC and be free of Confederate SPs or forts.

Message from Confederate:
Lee forms AOW
188 6/23/2020 6:47:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Missed Pope not able to reach BG because he can not move into uncontroled CSA spaces.
187 6/23/2020 2:27:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Operations #76: 2 / Great Sioux Uprising
Remove one Union commanding general at no SW penalty. Penalties for promoting a general with a lower political value still apply. OR remove ANY Union non-commanding general (even second in commands) from the game. Remove from deck if event is played.

Message from Union:
Army of the Tennessee - Bowling Green - Burnside in Command.

No SP penalty
186 6/23/2020 2:24:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Coupla typo $ characters in there. Just to confirm, I'm now showing ANV at n6
In Weldon I have n10 (9 inf, 1 cav), w/ Lee Smith & Forrest
185 6/22/2020 11:04:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Operations #91: 2 / Letters of Marque
Increase Confederate SW by 1. Remove from deck if event is played.

Message from Confederate:
184 6/22/2020 11:04:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Smith and 3+cav
1> Wilmington +1 n 5
2-4 Weldon drop 4SP and Cav
5-7 Richmond + lee and $SP
1-10 Weldon n10 SP INVC Cav
183 6/20/2020 10:06:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Operations #38: 2 / George W. Rains, Increased Gunpowder Production
Confederate immediately places two SPs in any friendly controlled space in Tennessee with an LOC (both SPs are placed in the same space). The SPs cannot be placed in a Pro Union space or one occupied by Union SPs or fort.

Message from Union:
Reorg
McClellan to AoP
Butler to AoP
Burnside to Bowling Green
Halleck to Bowling Green
Pope to Lynchburg
Rosecrans to Lynchburg
Buell to DC
Curtis to Cairo
Banks to St. Louis

182 6/20/2020 9:49:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Gordonsville
Culpeper
St. Louis (n1)
181 6/20/2020 9:11:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Play Strategy card as Event #65: 1 / Union 90-Day Enlistments Expire
Union player removes three SPs (Union player’s choice).

Message from Confederate:
180 6/20/2020 8:02:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Play Strategy card as Operations #39: 2 / Draft Riots in New York
The Union must remove three SPs (Union chooses). If possible the SPs must come from Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, or Washington DC.

Message from Union:
T4 U1
Pope n2
1-2. Nashville p1
3. Bowling Green
Stop
179 6/20/2020 5:40:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Okay will "think of a plan" later tonight!
178 6/20/2020 5:39:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Ah I'm blind yes there it is!
177 6/20/2020 4:51:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message

Top line of reinforcement!

Wilmington. Charleston. Columbus, N.O.

176 6/20/2020 4:31:00 PM Spring 1862 Union Message Okay super one last question --

On your SR you have one coming from "N.O." and one from "Charleston", but I don't have an SP in either of those spaces. I have an SP on Fort Philip & St. Jackson outside N.O. and an SP in Fort Sumter outside Charleston.

Do you mean to SR those guys?

(You also have the odd SP available in Atlanta, Weldon, Little Rock).

Other than that I think I've got things sorted and ready to play next turn!
175 6/20/2020 4:16:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message no campaign
174 6/19/2020 4:40:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Message Smitch to Marion Beau and Lee Richmond
173 6/19/2020 4:39:00 PM Spring 1862 Confederate Die roll request Request: 100-sided die x 3

37
55
56


Message from Confederate:
Lee, Beau Smith Largest to marion SC
Smallest two ANV

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