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342 5/15/2020 6:56:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message Ok, great, I say letís give it a try.

Iíll just ask questions as we go along
341 5/15/2020 9:25:00 AM 2nd Half Favorite Message Yes.

BtB and Shifting Sands pretty much share the same set of rules.
340 5/14/2020 10:12:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message Can reduced units advance in this game?
339 5/14/2020 9:52:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message If you find your cards don't match up well, and you get a bunch of 4-OPS and 3-OPS cards in either Turn 2 or Turn 3, you can still try for the three VP spaces in North Africa. Especially if you get the PzAA on the map, and see that the DESERT ARMY was played earlier for OPS or RP's.

There are three VP spaces in Turkey, but I never seen that in an actual game. I tried that scenario when I played some solitaire games, to see if it was a viable option to try and get a back door into Russia, but the Turks are tough.
338 5/14/2020 9:48:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message Yes, 13 straight cards of OPS, or Events that gives OPS like Yellow cards. NOrth Africa is pretty much ignored. All focus is eliminating Soviet units, either by direct combat, or encirclement. The goal is not so much Moscow, but trying to snatch Stalin before he gets away.

That Axis start at 7 VP, so they need 13 more VP's. Odessa, Kiev and Minsk fall pretty quick. Leningrad needs the NORDLICHT card. Orel, Kharkov and Sevastopol could fall early in Turn 3. So, teh Axis player could be sitting at 13/14 VP's halfway through Turn 3.

Maikop, Grozny and Stalingrad require FALL BLAU, which is a nice 5-OPS card that the Axis would rather not remove from their deck. And just like in the real WWII, any concentration of forces down south in the Caucasus pretty much nixes trying to go for Moscow.

Most Axis players try to surround Moscow and put it OOS, rather than trying to attack it directly. Especially since you need and OKW and TAIFUN in order to do that without losing a 1VP. If you can get Stalin, then he's worth 4VP, and will give you the Auto-Victory.

If not, then you need to conquer 13 Russian VP spaces, or 12 spaces and HITLER DECLARES WAR. There are only 15 Russian VP spaces, you have to either aim north or south. You really can't try to do both.
337 5/14/2020 8:48:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message So by 13 Ops that means 13 straight action rounds of no events or RPs? What determines whether or not the Axis player tries for that? Large value Op cards? For that to work you want to take Moscow?
336 5/14/2020 4:32:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message Which card do the Axis usually start with?
- BARBAROSSA

What are the Axis hoping to accomplish in the first few turns?
- The 13-OPS Strategy to win an Auto Victory at the end of Turn 3.

Do Partisans play a big part in the game?
- Not really. The Allies usually have more pressing concerns. It may be used to stave off a last-minute defeat, but I rarely seen games with more than 1 or 2 Partisan units on the map.

Do the axis want to play Hitler declares war or rather wait for FDR to declare war?
- Depends. If the Axis are close to the 20VP Auto-Victory, then it is a big 1VP, and gets a 2-OPS card out of your hand. But, if you have seen that the Allied Player has had to play FDR for OPS or RP's the first time thru his deck, you may want to hold off. Anything to delay the US from coming in is huge.

Does the Axis player need to decide if he is going all out for Moscow or playing for the long game?
- Nope, he can make the all-out push (i.e. the 13-OPS). But if he fails, he is not ruined, and should be able to recover in order to play for the long game.

I guess the Axis player needs to play Total Krieger as soon as he realizes he is not going to get the auto victory?
- Correct. It does no good to hold on to it if you are not going to get the Auto Victory. Just make sure you have played SPEER before you do so.

US build up seems like something Allies want to play ASAP
- Yep, but it takes FDR first, which can't be played until Turn 3. That means US BUILD-UP can't be played before Turn 4. Which means that if you draw US BUILD-UP in your initial hand, you ain't going to carry it for four more turns. You are going to play it for OPS or RP's, and then wait to re-draw it. Very rarely do all the Allied cards come out perfectly. Lots of hard choices early on.

Lend Lease seems very important.
- Yep. But it can wait until later to be played. It is usually played for RP's the first time through the deck. It is one of the cards that the Allied Player might choose to add to his hand when the Total War Deck is added.

What about the Siberans card?
- Very important, but dependent if you were able to SORGE beforehand. Once again, not a card I would hold onto if I drew it in my initial hand.
335 5/13/2020 11:14:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message So a few questions:

Which card do the Axis usually start with?

What are the Axis hoping to accomplish in the first few turns?

Do Partisans play a big part in the game?

Do the axis want to play Hitler declares war or rather wait for FDR to declare war?

Does the Axis player need to decide if he is going all out for Moscow or playing for the long game?

I guess the Axis player needs to play Total Krieger as soon as he realizes he is not going to get the auto victory?

US build up seems like something Allies want to play ASAP

Lend Lease seems very important.

What about the Siberans card?
334 5/13/2020 1:54:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message I found the rifles to B2b online last. Itís only 16 pages, so m going through it. I think thatís what I would like to try. Iíll try to finish reading today and then hit you up with some questions.
333 5/13/2020 12:23:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message OK, it looks like Wilderness War and Pursuit of Glory are the two contenders.

Decide on roll of the die?
332 5/12/2020 7:22:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message I looked at the Vassal board for B2B. It seemed a little unclear. I saw units out on the board but I didnt think they should be there. I dont actually own the game. We could try that but I would certainly need you to walk me though it.

I played Wilderness War a couple of times several years ago and remembered it was a good game. I found the rules online so that game I could probably pick up on relatively quickly.

I played Pursuit of Glory 3-4 times on a site called Wargameroom 5-6 years ago. We never actually finished a game. It looks interesting.

I looked at the Vassal board for Illusions of Glory. The game looks POGish. I could see if I could find the rules for that game.
331 5/12/2020 12:33:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message I would like to get into another wargame. We had mentioned BtB, but I am open to others. I am currently sloshing through a 1st-time playing of Pursuit of Glory, and Illusions of Glory still sits unplayed on my shelf. On the other hand, I know BtB and Wilderness War very well. I am also going through a game of For The People, which I just have a couple of plays in.

I would be up for any of these card-driven games.
330 5/11/2020 10:52:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message Did you want to play another game?
329 5/11/2020 10:29:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message Thanks good game
328 5/11/2020 10:25:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Score From 71 to 78
327 5/11/2020 10:24:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message You score 4

I score 8

Seton Hall wins, 93-78

326 5/11/2020 10:23:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Favorite:
Center Scoring

DR#1 - Your C scoring roll at D, +1drm

DR#2 - My C scoring roll at c, +1drm
325 5/11/2020 10:22:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Score cards from Center Underdog:

#36: GREAT PASS
+1 drm. Doubles Teammate Gain if DOUBLE TEAMed at this Position. Voids HALFCOURT TRAP at own Position only but retains fouls.

Favorite:

#34: SECOND SHOTS
+2 drm. Opposing FAST BREAK is doubled. Voided by opposing BOXING OUT at any Position. Scoring roll of 1 = Offensive Foul. Scoring roll of 6 = Defensive Foul.

324 5/11/2020 10:22:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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323 5/11/2020 10:21:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message So I guess its back to you
322 5/11/2020 10:09:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Score From 79 to 89
321 5/11/2020 10:07:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message No TO
320 5/11/2020 10:07:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Score From 62 to 71
319 5/11/2020 9:56:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message SO if we score this:

You are an A -3 = 5 points

Then 4 points for the free throws = 9 points

I am a C + 0 = 4 points

Then 6 points for the fast break = 10 points

So its 10/9 unless you want to use a TO.
318 5/11/2020 9:32:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message It doesn't matter much to me. I think this game is pretty much over any way.

Feel free to go ahead and score it.
317 5/11/2020 9:30:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message Usually I ignore the second roll but since I already revealed it itís up to you. We can score the position or not, either way is fine.
316 5/11/2020 9:28:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message Sometimes Acts sticks, then it rolls twice
315 5/11/2020 9:17:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message Why did you roll the clock twice in a row?
314 5/11/2020 9:16:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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Message from Underdog:
1st die - My C + 0

2nd die your A - 2

3rd die my fast break
313 5/11/2020 9:14:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Score cards from Right Forward Underdog:

#33: FAST BREAK
Gain points equal to a die roll. Double gain if opposing SECOND SHOTS. Voided by opposing CONTROLLING THE BOARDS at any Position.

#48: BLOCKED SHOT
-2 drm. Scoring roll of 1 or 2 = Defensive Foul. Scoring roll of 6 = Goaltending: +1 drm to opposing Player's score instead of -2.

Favorite:

#26: CLUTCH FREE THROWS
+4 points for each Foul on opposing Position even if Foul is removed. Never doubled/voided.

312 5/11/2020 9:13:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message score rf
311 5/11/2020 9:12:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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310 5/11/2020 9:05:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Clock From 9 to 8
309 5/11/2020 9:05:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Draw Extra Strategy card
308 5/11/2020 9:05:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Discard card #10: BOX & ONE

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307 5/11/2020 9:05:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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306 5/11/2020 9:00:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 9 to 8
305 5/11/2020 9:00:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Play card to Right Forward Message from Favorite:
304 5/11/2020 8:59:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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303 5/11/2020 8:58:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Clock From 10 to 9
302 5/11/2020 8:58:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Play card to Coaching Box Message from Underdog:
301 5/11/2020 8:57:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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300 5/11/2020 8:50:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 10 to 9
299 5/11/2020 8:50:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Draw Extra Strategy card
298 5/11/2020 8:50:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Discard card #25: KEY SIXTH MAN

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297 5/11/2020 8:50:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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T10
296 5/11/2020 8:49:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Clock From 11 to 10
295 5/11/2020 8:48:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Score From 68 to 79
294 5/11/2020 8:46:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message No TO
293 5/11/2020 8:46:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Score From 57 to 62
292 5/11/2020 8:45:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message I get 11/5 me unless you want to use a TO
291 5/11/2020 8:40:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Underdog:
MY RG is now a B + 0

Your Guard is up to a B for my card, then an up to A for super effort - 2 DRM
290 5/11/2020 8:38:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Score cards from Right Guard Underdog:

#58: FORCING TURNOVERS
-2 drm to opposing Player's score. Voided by GOOD BALL HANDLING at any Position. Scoring roll of 1 or 2 = Defensive Foul.

#28: OFFENSIVE SPECIALIST
Substitute Bench Rating for any Position. Opposing Position: +1 Letter Grade.

Favorite:

#17: SUPER EFFORT
Upgrade any one Position by one Letter Grade.

289 5/11/2020 8:38:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message score RG
288 5/11/2020 8:37:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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287 5/11/2020 8:37:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Score From 59 to 68
286 5/11/2020 7:55:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 11 to 10
285 5/11/2020 7:55:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Score From 49 to 57
284 5/11/2020 7:55:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Message You score 9

I score 8
283 5/11/2020 7:54:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Favorite:
LF Scoring

DR#1 - Your LF scoring roll at D, +0drm

DR#2 - My LF scoring roll at D, +0drm
282 5/11/2020 7:53:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Score cards from Left Forward Underdog:

No Cards

Favorite:

No Cards

281 5/11/2020 7:53:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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280 5/10/2020 3:01:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message Back to you
279 5/10/2020 2:59:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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card try
278 5/10/2020 2:59:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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t11
277 5/10/2020 2:59:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Message I guess the refs called double T's!
276 5/10/2020 2:34:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Clock From 12 to 11
275 5/10/2020 2:33:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Play card to Center Message from Underdog:
274 5/10/2020 2:33:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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273 5/10/2020 2:12:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 12 to 11
272 5/10/2020 2:11:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Discard card #14: TECHNICAL FOUL

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271 5/10/2020 2:11:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Return card to hand from Coaching Box Message from Favorite:
270 5/10/2020 2:11:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Score From 47 to 49
269 5/10/2020 2:11:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Play card to Coaching Box Message from Favorite:
268 5/10/2020 2:11:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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267 5/10/2020 2:00:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Clock From 13 to 12
266 5/10/2020 2:00:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Draw Extra Strategy card
265 5/10/2020 2:00:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Discard card #59: DOUBLE TEAM

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264 5/10/2020 1:59:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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263 5/10/2020 1:58:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 13 to 12
262 5/10/2020 1:58:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Draw Extra Strategy card
261 5/10/2020 1:58:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Discard card #32: FAST BREAK

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260 5/10/2020 1:56:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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259 5/10/2020 1:49:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Clock From 14 to 13
258 5/10/2020 1:49:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Reshuffle Deck
257 5/10/2020 1:49:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Discard card #15: TECHNICAL FOUL

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256 5/10/2020 1:49:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Return card to hand from Coaching Box Message from Underdog:
255 5/10/2020 1:49:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Score From 57 to 59
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2 points for the technical then reshuffle
254 5/10/2020 1:48:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Play card to Coaching Box Message from Underdog:
253 5/10/2020 1:48:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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252 5/10/2020 1:45:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 14 to 13
251 5/10/2020 1:45:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Draw Extra Strategy card
250 5/10/2020 1:44:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

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Card try
249 5/10/2020 1:44:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

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248 5/10/2020 1:34:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Change Clock From 15 to 14
247 5/10/2020 1:33:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Draw Extra Strategy card
246 5/10/2020 1:33:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Discard card #13: FULL COURT PRESS

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245 5/10/2020 1:33:00 PM 2nd Half Underdog Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

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244 5/10/2020 1:31:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 14 to 14
243 5/10/2020 1:31:00 PM 2nd Half Favorite Change Clock From 15 to 14

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