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632 8/8/2020 6:26:00 AM Master ID = 8313 Game Deleted
631 8/6/2020 5:05:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Okay -

Sides?

Options?

I'll let you decide - I will say the Menzel option
is pretty balanced

Then we can decide on a bid.

One thing that we've been doing lately is run turn 1
until end and THEN offer bid for sided (after we both
see the Pearl and INDO raids....


Mr (Menzel post-Raid): Bid after the air raid and location uncertain dice:

A player is selected (randomly or by mutual agreement) to run the IJN and makes all of its moves (patrols, LBA, NLF, and raiders) and then conducts two rounds of air raids in Indonesia and Pearl Harbor. The IJN player must meet the following minimum placements: Japanese Islands (patrollers: 2 BB or 3 CA), Aleutians (1 patroller), Central Pacific (10 patrollers/15 ships/1 CVL), Marianas (3 patrollers), Indonesia (4 LBA), South Pacific (1 LBA), Marshalls (1 LBA), Hawaiians (11 ships/6 CV). The second player must agree the targetting selections for the air raids are "reasonable." The second player then rolls the location uncertain dice, places groups accordingly, and withdraws all CPO groups. Then, beginning with the second player, players bid for sides. Whomever takes the USN then completes all of its movement (patrols and raiders) and begins the normal sequence of play with the Hawaiian pursuit decision.
630 8/6/2020 4:46:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Hum, couldn't even say or write the word "dice" huh?

Not a good sign ;-)
629 8/5/2020 8:57:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message "...but the *dice* likely..."
628 8/5/2020 8:55:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message Yeah, we can play VITP. Haven't played for years but the likely still hate me.
627 8/4/2020 7:34:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message How about a real dice game of VITP?

I'm up for what ever you want to play.

I'm currently playing 8 other games so
we can play what you want.
626 8/4/2020 5:43:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message Do you want to try a different game like Wash War or restart this? Or just take a break?
625 8/3/2020 7:47:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message I think you acutally had me -
If you had pushed into the last colony in Africa
you'd have had me as I had no 3's to move Hanno
nor to sail anybody over there.

These were my other cards - My only hope was taking Etruria and hoping you would not attack Gisgo
or lone units I would have had to place.

Here are the rest of my cards

45 2 / Allied Auxiliaries (Etruria)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if ETRURIA is Roman controlled.

32 1 / Numidian Allies Desert
(Both) Play at the start of any Combat in Africa. Your opponent does not receive any BC bonuses for control of either Western or Eastern Numidia.

44 2 / Allied Auxiliaries (Apulia)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if APULIA is Roman controlled.

12 2 / African Reinforcements
(Carthage) Place one Elephant unit (at strength level
2) in Carthage. If an Elephant unit is not available, place two regular CUs in Carthage

6 1 / Marharbal's Cavalry
(Carthage) Play during any battle. You may use this card as a Double Envelopment BC which (if matched) does not automatically give the defender the initiative.

21 2 / Mercenaries Desert
(Rome) The Carthaginian player must use the Attrition Table for all his forces on the map not in friendly walled city spaces. Units with Generals are exempt if a separate die roll <= the General's Battle Rating.


624 8/3/2020 11:21:00 AM 203-201 BC Rome Message No, I did not realize that. I'm just going to resign then. With the current hand and the generals I have in play I don't see any way to deny you control of a colony. My last two hands have been pretty crappy, filled with Carthage events, while your hand last turn was very good.

Well played, sir.
623 8/3/2020 5:17:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message You do realize that Big S is a Pro Consul
thus the battle is being run by Nero - a Consul....
622 8/2/2020 7:39:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #50: 3 / Adriatic Pirates
(Carthage) If you use this card as an OC for Sea Movement and carry no more than 3 CUs plus a General, you do not have to roll on the Naval Combat Table if you embark or debark at either Brundisium, Croton or Tarentum

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 9 Card 4

Big Scip sails to Rhegium with 5 CU, picks up Nero and his 2 CU, then attacks Hannibal in Bruttium with 7 CU.
621 8/2/2020 4:17:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #19: 1 / Senate Dismisses Proconsul
(Both) If there is a Roman Proconsul on the map other than Scipio Africanus, it is removed and replaced with an unused Roman General. The player playing this card determines the replacement.

Message from Carthage:
hoping to limit your movement choices I'll replace Varo with Paulus a 3 MP
620 8/2/2020 1:21:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #53: 1 / Tribal Resistance
(Both) Remove any accrued Subjugation Points in any one Tribe space.

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 9 Card 3

Big Scip moves with 9 CU, picks up the 1 CU in Tupusuctu, and finishes in Saldae with 10 CU.
619 8/2/2020 1:13:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message Remove Rhone, Druentia.
618 8/1/2020 6:58:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message loss of 2 for you and retreat into Rhegium (only place)

You have 1 PC to remove then it's your turn
617 8/1/2020 6:56:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
2


Message from Carthage:
1st Roll for 1 round of combat

2nd Roll for Roman retreat with a +2 added to die
616 7/31/2020 5:39:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message No need for a discard, I decline to match to limit losses.
615 7/31/2020 4:47:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Battle card #44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
Here's my first play
614 7/31/2020 4:47:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Oh, you are minus 1 for failed attempt to flee - please discard a card before making a play

(always seem to forget that)
613 7/31/2020 4:46:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Battle Hands dealt Battle 15

Carthage: 16 cards
Rome: 8 cards
612 7/31/2020 4:46:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Fail

Carthage 9 + 4 + 3 16
Rome 4 + 2 + 2 = 8
611 7/31/2020 4:44:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
EU attempt
610 7/31/2020 4:21:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message Nope.
609 7/31/2020 4:21:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Rome:
Nero attempts to avoid battle.
608 7/31/2020 5:26:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #62: 2 / Force March (1 or 2 rating)
(Both) Move a General whose Strategy Rating is 1 or 2 up to six spaces.

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal moves to Gisto, drops off 1 CU
then charges down to bring Nero to battle in Bruttium

No cards for me
607 7/31/2020 5:24:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message both lose 1 and then I lost my 2nd one

Remove Taurini
606 7/31/2020 5:23:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
2


Message from Carthage:
attrition roll

retreat roll for me
605 7/31/2020 5:22:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Battle card #1 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
and of course that was the one I can match.
SO end of battle
604 7/31/2020 5:22:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Discard random Battle card #30: Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
603 7/31/2020 5:22:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Thought I did but guess not so I'll discard one first
602 7/30/2020 8:49:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message Did you lose a BC for failed retreat?
601 7/30/2020 8:30:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Play Battle card #29 Flank Right

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #1.
600 7/30/2020 8:29:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Battle Hands dealt Battle 14

Carthage: 7 cards
Rome: 9 cards
599 7/30/2020 7:45:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message I show me with 2 + 2 + 3 = 7
I show you with 5 + 2 + 2 = 9
598 7/30/2020 7:44:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message NOPE - NO battle card for me
597 7/30/2020 7:44:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Carthage:
Mago will attempt to flee
596 7/30/2020 10:32:00 AM 203-201 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #58: 1 / Cato Counsels Rome
(Carthage) Roman CUs are prohibited from moving to Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled. This does not affect Roman CUs already there.

Message from Rome:
Nero and 5 CU move to Bruttium and attack Mago.
595 7/30/2020 5:33:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #12: 2 / African Reinforcements
(Carthage) Place one Elephant unit (at strength level 2) in Carthage. If an Elephant unit is not available, place two regular CUs in Carthage

Message from Carthage:
2 EU with Hanno
594 7/29/2020 9:18:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #3: 3 / Numidia Revolts
(Both) Pick either Western or Eastern Numidia and remove all your opponent's PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CU's.

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 9 Card 1

Varro and his 2 CU sail to Rome (n15).

Glad you didn't get this card.
593 7/29/2020 5:12:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 3 / Carthaginian Siege Train
(Carthage) Place the Siege Train Marker with any Carthaginian General. A General with the Siege Train ignores the -1 die roll modifier applied against Carthaginian sieges.

Message from Carthage:
I'll go first to place Hanno back in Carthage
592 7/29/2020 5:10:00 AM 203-201 BC Carthage Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

591 7/28/2020 6:45:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message No Campaign.
590 7/28/2020 6:43:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Draw Strategy cards 9 cards drawn.

589 7/28/2020 6:41:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message 6 & 1 = Nero and P Scip.
588 7/28/2020 6:41:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 8-sided die x 10

6
1
6
6
1
7
6
7
8
7


Message from Rome:
Turn 9 Consul Selection

Rolling ten rolls of 8-sided die.
Roll numbers correspond to the Consul chart at the top of the map.
Ignore the first two dice and any sevens (Varro) plus any non-seven duplicates after the first.
587 7/28/2020 6:37:00 PM 203-201 BC Rome Message Rome Turn 9 Reinforcements

3 CU to Rome (n13), the other 2 CU with Big Scip (n9).

Varro is Proconsul.
586 7/28/2020 5:00:00 PM 203-201 BC Carthage Message Map looks right
585 7/28/2020 9:46:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome End Turn
584 7/28/2020 9:45:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message Your last file didn't show the results of the battle or your Turn 9 reinforcements. I've adjusted my copy and will send it to you for verification before I bring on my reinforcements.
583 7/27/2020 6:38:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message we each lose 3 then I lose 4 more for total of 7

I'll remove Thevestis, Hippo Regius and Iberus

END OF TURN STUFF.

No isolation or attrition.

Hanno will get 1 now at 4
New Carthage will get 2 now at 3
Mago gets 1 now at 2
582 7/27/2020 6:35:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5


Message from Carthage:
so 7 rounds
then my retreat roll
Also, since you intercepted the PC marker
is NOT removed from Cirta
581 7/27/2020 6:33:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
NOPE
580 7/27/2020 2:02:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #17 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #7.
579 7/27/2020 2:02:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #6.
578 7/27/2020 10:29:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
577 7/27/2020 10:29:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
CA
576 7/27/2020 10:28:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #13 Flank Left

Message from Carthage:
575 7/27/2020 10:25:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #20 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #5.
574 7/27/2020 10:00:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Carthage:
CA
573 7/27/2020 10:00:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #21 Flank Left

Message from Carthage:
572 7/27/2020 9:25:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #16 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #4.
571 7/27/2020 9:17:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message not even close
570 7/27/2020 9:17:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Carthage:
ca roll
569 7/27/2020 9:17:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #15 Flank Left

Message from Carthage:
568 7/27/2020 8:42:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #19 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #3
567 7/27/2020 8:42:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Rome:
Counterattack.
566 7/27/2020 8:41:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #10 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #2
Match.
565 7/27/2020 5:00:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message My only desire is to reduce your forces a little
with hopefully not to much loss on my side but not sure that's going to work
564 7/27/2020 5:00:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #9 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
563 7/26/2020 7:52:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Rome:
Counterattack.
562 7/26/2020 7:52:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Battle card #8 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
Rome BC #1
Match.
561 7/26/2020 7:51:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message "saw the 'wrong 3'" Thought that might be the case. Part of my decision to intercept was having a +4 edge in hand size.
560 7/26/2020 7:35:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Discard random Battle card #31: Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Carthage:
my deal mistake
559 7/26/2020 7:34:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message sorry saw the 'wrong 3' - I'll discard a card
558 7/26/2020 7:01:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message "Carthage is 10 + 3 + 2 = 15"

How do you get the +3? Hanno's rating is 2 and you control only two provinces in Africa: Carthage and Carthaginia.
557 7/26/2020 6:57:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Battle card #2 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
556 7/26/2020 6:56:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Battle Hands dealt Battle 13

Carthage: 15 cards
Rome: 18 cards
555 7/26/2020 6:56:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Carthage is 10 + 3 + 2 = 15
Rome is 10 + 4 + 4 = 18

Was thinking of just retreating (one of my options)
but let's fight
554 7/26/2020 6:32:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message We have a battle in Cirta.
553 7/26/2020 6:32:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Rome:
Big Scip will try to intercept Hanno.
552 7/26/2020 4:12:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message No winter attrition that I can see or isolation either.

Rome has 9 and Carthage has 9 also so no removals needed
551 7/26/2020 4:11:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #34: 3 / Major Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY THREE GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
Okay, first move is Hanno moves to Cirta
Due to special ability I'll remove the Red PC marker in that space

Do you attempt to intercept?

2nd and 3rd Moves will not effect your decision.

Hannibal moves up to Sena

Gisgo moves to Hannibal drops off 2 and then moves back
to Fir. Pic
550 7/26/2020 10:40:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #63: 3 / Force March (any general)
(Both) Move any General up to six spaces.

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 8 Card 9

Markers in Nemausus, Rhone, Druentia.
549 7/26/2020 1:55:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message Still hemming and hawing about my move.
548 7/24/2020 4:03:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #17: 1 / Surprise Sortie
(Both) Remove 1 Siege Point from any one Walled City

Message from Carthage:
Flip Bruttium so I don't forget it
547 7/24/2020 12:29:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #13: 2 / Bruttium Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Lucania

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 8 Card 8

PC markers in Zuccabar, Vescera.
546 7/24/2020 9:03:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message I'll get to my move later today. I have to take Cindy to her doctor's appt. this morning.
545 7/24/2020 5:51:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #31: 1 / Spanish Allies Desert
(Both) Your opponent does not receive any Battle Card bonuses for Spanish Allies for that Combat.

Message from Carthage:
Flip Paestum
544 7/23/2020 8:46:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #25: 2 / Capua Sides with Carthage
(Carthage) If the Carthage controls 3 or more Italian provinces Capua is converted to Carthaginian control and all Roman CUs inside are eliminated.

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 8 Card 7

Markers in Nuoro, Enna.
543 7/22/2020 8:13:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message Success

542 7/22/2020 8:13:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Carthage:
>No interrupt card. You stole it.

I believe you gave it to me...

Okay modifier +2 + 1 + 1
541 7/22/2020 7:47:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Message No interrupt card. You stole it.
540 7/22/2020 5:47:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Message If no interrupt I'll roll
539 7/22/2020 5:46:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #38: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
Hannibal moves to Bruttium then Paestrum

Mago attempts to sail to Croton w/1 CU and then moves to Bruttium

538 7/22/2020 1:01:00 PM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #5: 2 / Native Guide
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to move an Army, and the Army crosses a Mountain Pass, you may modify your Mountain Pass Attrition die roll by -3.

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 8 Card 6

Move Varro and his 1 CU to Agrigentum (n2).
537 7/21/2020 8:13:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Operations #42: 1 / Elephant Fright
(Rome) Play if attacked by elephants. They have no effect on you and the Carthaginian player immediately loses two BCs.

Message from Carthage:
Place PC in Beneventum
536 7/21/2020 8:11:00 PM 206-204 BC Carthage Play Strategy card as Event #41: 1 / Bad Weather
(Both) Play immediately after opponent has moved but before combat. Contrary to his expectations, his General has only move two spaces - return him to the second space he entered.

Message from Carthage:
Well, might as well play this now to stop your sea
movement so Varro remains in Rhegium
535 7/21/2020 9:40:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Play Strategy card as Operations #26: 3 / Syracuse Allies with Carthage
(Carthage) You immediately gain control of Syracuse (any Roman units inside are eliminated. Syracuse provides a -1 modifier for Sea Movement

Message from Rome:
Rome Turn 8 Card 5

Varro and his 2 CU sail back to Rome, drop off 1 CU, and end the move in Falerii with 1 CU.
534 7/21/2020 9:34:00 AM 206-204 BC Rome Message One-round attrition = 5 = no losses.
5+ CU retreat = 4 = 3 losses.
Varro retreats to Rhegium with 2 CU.
Remove Nuoro, Enna.
533 7/21/2020 9:23:00 AM 206-204 BC Carthage Message you determine how many each of us loses and then you retreat your forces and remove possibly at least 1 PC
for every 2 lost.

Then it's your go.

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