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717 10/23/2020 3:49:00 PM Master ID = 19895 Game Deleted
716 10/23/2020 3:13:00 PM Fall 1917 Allies Message Kindly "complete" the game when you have a moment
715 10/23/2020 10:54:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message I agree, but the game IS pretty balanced.
CP can hit harder early, but is always behind the 8-ball to be constantly aggressive (at least after the trenches are dug), and one wrong move can thwart them as you mentioned.
AP needs to be patient but can be a powerhouse in the mid-late game with the ability to take greater losses.
I feel as though I didn't make too many mistakes (maybe too many digs in the east), but the card sequencing (aided by your trimming) and dice worked against me. When the CP player plays more or less mistake free as you did, it can be rough.

714 10/23/2020 10:49:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message Yes I think after Bolshevik, it is essentially over.

Some good luck. I find the CP easy to make big mistakes with, but once players get solid and learn from making those mistakes as I have, the CP can be strong.

I'm happy to play you again sometime soon. In about 3-4 weeks with Thanksgiving looming my schedule should clear up substantially. Even starting before then is fine.

Thank you for the game.

Richard
713 10/23/2020 10:47:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message And I'd need 5 VPs after blockade to win...
712 10/23/2020 10:46:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message I think it's time to call it.

You have Treaty of Brest in your hand, or it will be in your hand next turn. With 5 turns to go, even if you don't get the 2 VPs in Russia first I don't think the USA can help enough in the West to get the 2 VPs I need after Blockade...and that's assuming you don't grab more VPs before then (which you might).

It's possible for AP to win here, but pretty unlikely.

Despite the luck shifts you played a great game as the CP and your skill is very evident. I will dial you up for a game in the future, if you're interested, once my slate clears a bit. I don't know how this ladder works and if I can play another, but would rather wait until my other POG game is finished first.

Good luck going forward!
711 10/23/2020 10:41:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #53: 5 / Bolshevik Revolution
May only be played if Russian Capitulation marker is in the "Bolshevik Revolution Allowed" box. No more than 1 RU RP may be spent each turn. Current and future RU MOs become “None”.

Message from Central Powers:
CP5

You smelled it coming very well. I'm using up all my luck in the ladder.

Event/OPS

The CP is drawing the right cards at the right time

M Breslau GE11 to Brun
M Tannenberg GE9 to Szwali
M Kovno GE17 to Szwali
M Strumitsa (BUc) to Philippoli
C Vilna vs Dvinsk, 9A+1 VF v 6A, no advance
710 10/23/2020 10:34:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #43: 3 / USA Reinforcements (1st Army)
May only be played after "Over There". 1st Army, 2 corps.

Message from Allies:
Game is about to be more in favor of a CP win

T15AP4

US1 to Calais
RB (2,0)
709 10/23/2020 10:33:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message Eliminate (RUc) in Rize
708 10/23/2020 10:33:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
2


Message from Allies:
C Trebizond vs Rize, 1c v 0c, MO done, no advance

707 10/23/2020 10:32:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message Eliminate (SBc)
Flip BUc, other BUc advances
706 10/23/2020 10:32:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5


Message from Allies:
C Strumitsa vs Salonnika, advance all possible

705 10/23/2020 10:28:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #43: 3 / Von Below
Cancels all trench effects for 1 GE attack against only IT unit(s).

Message from Central Powers:
CP4

M Grodno GE8 and GE18 to Vilna via Moldechno and Baranovichi, GEc to Szwali and back to Grodno
C Strumitsa vs Salonnika, advance all possible
C Trebizond vs Rize, 1c v 0c, MO done, no advance
704 10/23/2020 10:24:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message Flip RUc Rize
703 10/23/2020 10:24:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
2


Message from Central Powers:
Rize - attack Trebizond (1C vs 2C)
702 10/23/2020 10:19:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message T2 in Riga
T1 in Sinai
701 10/23/2020 10:19:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
2


Message from Allies:
Dig:

Riga
Sinai (-1)
700 10/23/2020 10:19:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #35: 4 / Yanks and Tanks
Allied player conducts operations using this card and all Combats involving a US unit during this Action Round get a +2 drm.

Message from Allies:
T15AP3

Riga - RU10 to Dvinsk via Vilna (holding off Bolsheviks for a round); RU4 to Szawli and back to Riga; RU6 digs
Sinai - dig (-1)
Mogilev - RU11 to Dvinsk
Rize - attack Trebizond (1C vs 2C)

**RU MO DONE**
699 10/23/2020 10:13:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message Flip AH11 and GEc, Advance AH1 and AH7 into Kiev
698 10/23/2020 10:11:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message LF of 3

You have loss and advance choices as the Bolsheviks prepare to toss tables...

RU1, (RU5), (RUc) retreat to Gomel
697 10/23/2020 10:10:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Allies:
LF of 7

Eliminate RU9, flip replacement RUc (1,5)
Flip RU5

Firing back on 5A
696 10/23/2020 10:08:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Allies:
Kiev

CP firing first on 12A +1
695 10/23/2020 10:07:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Combat #3: 2 / Von Francois
A GE attack vs. RU units adds a +1 drm. May be used against spaces with RU and other nationalities.

Message from Central Powers:
12A+1 fires first
694 10/23/2020 10:07:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Central Powers:
Flank Kiev 3-6
693 10/23/2020 10:07:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 2 / Alpenkorps
A GE attack to or from a mountain space adds +1 drm.

Message from Central Powers:
Yes your digs are rough.

CP3

C Zhitomir all
C Belaya all vs Kiev attempt flank with VF
692 10/23/2020 9:47:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message My digs have been awful

-1
691 10/23/2020 9:46:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Allies:
Dig in the Sinai
690 10/23/2020 9:46:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #38: 2 / USA Reinforcements (1 corps)
May only be played after "Over There". 1 corps.

Message from Allies:
T15AP2

Sinai - dig
Batum - RUc to Rize
689 10/23/2020 9:20:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #24: 3 / Libyan Revolt (TU Reinforcements)
May only be played if there are no Allied units in the Libya space. Place the SN unit in Libya. SN unit is always in supply. Space converted by the SN units are checked normally during the Attrition phase.

Message from Central Powers:
CP2

SR GEc RB to Beersheba
SR GEc RB to Ismail <6>
SR TUc RB to Gaza <1>
SR BUc Brest to Strumitsa

688 10/23/2020 9:15:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message TUc elim, advance NE, AUS and 1 BRc
687 10/23/2020 9:14:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Central Powers:
Sinai 1c Fire
686 10/23/2020 9:07:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
4


Message from Allies:
Dig:

Kiev
Odessa
685 10/23/2020 9:06:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message AUS has to take loss priority, so losses to that unit if any.

If no losses, advance AUS with the stack. If there are losses, advance the second BRc with the stack.
684 10/23/2020 9:05:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #55: 5 / Over There
May be played on any turn after "Zimmerman Telegram". Allows play of "US Reinforcements". ALL Allied RP cards played now include 1 US RP.

Message from Allies:
T15AP1

Event + OPs:

Kiev - dig
Odessa - RUc to Caucasus via Uman, RU3 digs
Caucasus - RU2 to Odessa
Cairo & Port Said - auto-kill TUc in Sinai, loss to BRc in Port Said, advance NE, AUS and other BRc from Port Said
683 10/23/2020 9:01:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Message 3/2 CP win

Eliminate (SB2) to (SBc)
Flip AH6

No retreat or advance
682 10/23/2020 9:00:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
6


Message from Allies:
C Monastir vs Salonika, 2A v 1A

681 10/23/2020 8:56:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #51: 4 / Peace Offensive
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Cancels all trench effects for 1 GE attack. If attacker does not advance into the space, subtract 1 VP. Play prior to Attempt Flank Attack Step. A trench does not need to be present.

Message from Central Powers:
CP1

M Dubno AH11 and GEc to Zhitomir
M Uman AHc to Vinnitsa
M Tirana (AH5) and (AHc) to Valona
C Monastir vs Salonika, 2A v 1A
680 10/23/2020 8:54:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Message Ugh TU/RU
679 10/23/2020 8:53:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6


Message from Central Powers:
MOs
678 10/23/2020 8:52:00 AM Fall 1917 Central Powers Draw Strategy cards
677 10/23/2020 8:52:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers End Turn
676 10/23/2020 8:52:00 AM Fall 1917 Allies Draw Strategy cards
675 10/23/2020 8:52:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies End Turn
674 10/23/2020 8:51:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Holding 1
673 10/23/2020 8:50:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message CP RPs

GE 4: GE11 to BReslau, Flip up GEc Trent and GEc Zhitomir, full
AH 2: Flip up AH3 Trent, AH1 Belaya
BU full
TU full
672 10/23/2020 8:49:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Message T14 AP RPs:

A (1):
(SB1) to Salonika

IT (2):
Flip (IT3) in Taranto
Flip 2x (ITc) in RB (4,0)

BR (3):
FULL

FR (3):
FULL

RU (4):
Flip (RU5), (RU9) in Kiev
RU2 to Caucasus

Holding 3 cards
671 10/23/2020 8:47:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Yes advance AHc to Valona
670 10/23/2020 8:45:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Message Regardless, here is T14AP6

1-OP:

Alexandria - NE, AUS to Cairo
669 10/23/2020 8:43:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Message 4/3 CP win

Eliminate both ITc
Flip AH5 and AHc

(IT3) retreats to Taranto

Advance AHc?
668 10/23/2020 8:41:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5


Message from Allies:
C Tirana vs Valona, 4A v 3A

667 10/23/2020 8:40:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Message Have I earned my WBC beer? ;-)
666 10/23/2020 8:40:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message MO done, losses as flips, Corps first
665 10/23/2020 8:40:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message You are right here is the revision:

M Gaza 1x TUc to Amman, 1x TUc to Jerusalem, 1x TUc stays
MM Sinai, (YLD) to Gaza, GEc to Beersheba, 1x TUc stays
C Tirana vs Valona, 4A v 3A
664 10/23/2020 8:37:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Message That means you would have a missed MO - revise?
663 10/23/2020 8:32:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #49: 4 / Michel
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Cancels all trench effects for 1 GE attack and adds a +1 drm for that attack. Play prior to Attempt Flank Attack Step. A trench does not need to be present.

Message from Central Powers:
CP6

M Strumitsa BUc to Salonika
M Gaza 1x TUc to Amman, 1x TUc to Jerusalem, 1x TUc stays
MM Sinai, (YLD) to Gaza, GEc to Beersheba, 1x TUc stays
662 10/23/2020 8:21:00 AM Summer 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #41: 3 / Arab Northern Army (BR Reinforcements)
May only be played if Turkey is at war. Place the British ANA Corps in the Arabia space.

Message from Allies:
T14AP5

ANA to Arabia
661 10/23/2020 8:14:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message That was CP5
660 10/23/2020 8:14:00 AM Summer 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #39: 2 / German Reinforcements (2 corps)
2 corps.

Message from Central Powers:
Maybe I should have gone through Salonika, wouldn't have minded the Russians being shorter on RPs this turn though.

GE RB <8>
659 10/22/2020 11:10:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #53: 5 / Army of the Orient (FR Reinforcements)
Place the French Orient Army in the Salonika space if Allied controlled, subject to stacking limits. See 9.5.3.4.

Replacement points: A: 1, BR: 3, FR: 3, IT: 2, RU: 4

Message from Allies:
T14AP4

Thought hard about bringing this onto the map...but will take RPs
658 10/22/2020 11:08:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Flip RU9, RU5
657 10/22/2020 7:04:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #27: 4 / Zeppelin Raids
Subtract 4 BR RPs from the BR RP total during the Replacement Phase of this turn.

Replacement points: AH: 2, BU: 1, GE: 3, TU: 1

Message from Central Powers:
CP4

RPs
656 10/22/2020 7:03:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Well that was rude of me.

4/4, (GE11) to (GEc), 4LF to you
655 10/22/2020 7:02:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6


Message from Central Powers:
Von Mackensen assured his troops that the Russian political disarray would ensure no counterattacks. Oh well.

Kiev (3) - attack Zhitomir (9A vs 3A)
654 10/22/2020 4:42:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message T1 in CT
653 10/22/2020 4:42:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Allies:
Dig in CT (-1)
652 10/22/2020 4:42:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #16: 5 / Romania
May not be played after "Fall of the Tsar". Romania joins the Allies. See also 9.5.2.5 for restrictions on play as a non-event when CP are at TW.

Message from Allies:
T14AP3

Antwerp - BE1 to Ostend
CT - dig (-1)
Kiev (3) - attack Zhitomir (9A vs 3A)
651 10/22/2020 1:18:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #36: 2 / U-Boats Unleashed
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Subtract 1 BR RP during the Replacement Phase of each turn and prevent play of "US Reinforcements" until "Convoy" is played.

Message from Central Powers:
CP3

SR GEc RB to Trent <7>
SR AHc Timisvar to Villach
650 10/21/2020 10:48:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Eliminate IT4, replace with ITc (2,2)
649 10/21/2020 10:47:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message 3/4, Flip AH3 and GEc, 4 to you
648 10/21/2020 10:46:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
3


Message from Central Powers:
Verona - attack Trent (4A vs 9A)
647 10/21/2020 10:43:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message -1 on CT
646 10/21/2020 10:43:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5


Message from Allies:
Dig:

CT
Kiev
645 10/21/2020 10:42:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 4 / Salonika
Allied player must SRs at least one and up to 3 BR/FR Corps (from Allied ports on the map and/or Reserve) only to Salonika (ANA, AUS, CND, or PT do not qualify as BR for this purpose). This counts as a SR action (see 9.3.3). May be played after Greek Entry provided Salonika is Allied controlled and subject to stacking limits.

Message from Allies:
CT - FRc to Mulhouse, armies dig
Kiev - dig
Mogilev - RU5, RU9 to Kiev; RU11 stays put
Verona - attack Trent (4A vs 9A)

**IT MO DONE**
644 10/21/2020 10:36:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Sorry (2,5)
643 10/21/2020 10:36:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Eliminate (RU2) and replacement RUc (1,5)
642 10/21/2020 10:35:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message 4LF to you
641 10/21/2020 10:35:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Central Powers:
CP 6A back
640 10/21/2020 10:35:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Well, that's something...

LF of 5 to you - take losses then you can roll the CP attack
639 10/21/2020 10:34:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Flip AH1, elim AHc and (AHc), fire back on 6A
638 10/21/2020 10:34:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Allies:
Kiev:

AP firing first on 5A
637 10/21/2020 10:33:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message 1/- CP win

Eliminate (SBc)
Flip GRc to hold

Never seen an attack in Greece other than Salonika. In fact, I've barely ever seen those blue guys move.
636 10/21/2020 10:31:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
1


Message from Allies:
C Monastir vs Florina, 2A v 1c
635 10/21/2020 10:31:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Not today, over to you
634 10/21/2020 10:30:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Central Powers:
Flank Kiev?
633 10/21/2020 10:30:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #50: 4 / Blucher
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Cancels all trench effects for 1 GE attack. Play prior to Attempt Flank Attack Step. A trench does not need to be present.

Message from Central Powers:
CP2

M Mannheim AH4 to Strasbourg
C Monastir vs Florina, 2A v 1c
C Zhitomir all
C Belaya all, vs Kiev, attempt flank
632 10/21/2020 10:28:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message >>You are using up all your bad luck ahead of WBC 2021, I see your plan now.<<

Let's hope it happens, I'm kind of skeptical. I'd love to play you face to face.

In other news, I don't think I've rolled less than a 5 for Russian trenches, save the one in Kovno...
631 10/21/2020 10:27:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Allies:
Dig in Kiev
630 10/21/2020 10:27:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #54: 5 / Zimmermann Telegram
May only be played if U.S. entry marker is in the "Zimmerman Telegram Allowed" box. Subtract 1 VP. US joins the Allies. Allows play of "Over There" on any following turn.

War Status increased to 16

Message from Allies:
T14AP1

I can't say the card gods have been too much against me though.

Event + OPs:

Dvinsk - RU5, RU9, RU11 to Mogilev
Kiev - dig (trench buster be damned)
Bologna - IT1, IT4, IT5 to Verona
London - BR5 to Cambrai
Nevers - FR6, FR10 to Mulhouse
629 10/21/2020 10:22:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Usually in game you see dice before advance decision for any given battle, not critical though. You are using up all your bad luck ahead of WBC 2021, I see your plan now.
628 10/21/2020 10:18:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message You changed your mind after the dice were rolled...but I'm still easy-going

AHc to Uman
627 10/21/2020 10:17:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message 4/4 tie

Flip RU2, eliminate RUc

Your loss?
626 10/21/2020 10:17:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Flip GE11 and AHc
625 10/21/2020 10:16:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
4


Message from Allies:
C Zhitomir vs Kiev with all, 6A+1 AS v 6A

624 10/21/2020 10:16:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message On 2nd thought, advance AHc to Uman
623 10/21/2020 10:16:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message (RUc) in Uman eliminated
622 10/21/2020 10:15:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
4


Message from Allies:
Vinnitsa, AHc vs Uman, 1c v 0c, no advance
621 10/21/2020 10:14:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message 3/1 CP win

Eliminate (SB1), replace with (SBc)
(SBc) retreats to Florina
620 10/21/2020 10:13:00 PM Summer 1917 Central Powers Message Cards and dice both hating on you it seems.
619 10/21/2020 10:12:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
4


Message from Allies:
C Monastir vs Salonika, 2A v 1A
618 10/21/2020 10:10:00 PM Summer 1917 Allies Message Damn. Needed just one more turn...

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