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566 1/23/2021 2:17:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Ok so politcal consequence is:

flop back to Etruscan control: Clusium and Caere and increase loyality of Tranquinii to 3

file updated accordingly


565 1/23/2021 4:38:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message My card says "no remove support from Roman After a defeat. Change your options.
564 1/22/2021 1:49:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message Wait no remove support from Roman
563 1/22/2021 1:48:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Play Strategy card - Event #18: 2 / Socii

562 1/22/2021 1:41:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Gaul, now it's time to break alliance and join the party!
561 1/22/2021 1:38:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Wow..they were really motivated..

Ora capisci cosa vuol dire sculare in faccia eh :)

6/1

Roman all dead, decrease Sutrium by 2, now 1 and then flip Clusium (I couldn't take all because no adjacent spaces right? )

Up to Greek
file updated
560 1/22/2021 1:30:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

6
5
5
5
1
2


Message from Etruscan-Samnite:
ES first
559 1/22/2021 1:27:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message No crads for me
558 1/22/2021 12:41:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Roman Leader Displaced and -2 for your Combact roll


557 1/22/2021 10:48:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message I don't read your cards. What do they say ?
556 1/22/2021 3:41:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message U can out minor leader in your movement phase not now.
555 1/22/2021 3:35:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message To put
554 1/22/2021 3:34:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message As there are 6 cu in Sutrium maybe we have. To pur a minor leader with them
553 1/21/2021 5:06:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Displaced Maximum

So this the modifier, prior to Rome decision to play combact cards

ES +1 Ratio +2 Leader
Roman -2 Card +1 controlled space
552 1/21/2021 5:05:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Play Strategy card - Event #32: 3 / Consul Ambushed!

551 1/21/2021 5:05:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Play Strategy card - Event #2: 1 / Death of Aulius

550 1/21/2021 5:04:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Let's fight. I will play two combact cards
549 1/21/2021 9:45:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message 6 cu in Sutrium
548 1/21/2021 9:44:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Roman:
Try intercept with Maximus
547 1/19/2021 6:21:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Up to the Greek now sieging Lilybaeum with Dyonisus and 9 CU
546 1/19/2021 6:17:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Play Strategy card - Operations #25: 2 / Naval Transports

Message from Etruscan-Samnite:
SO I updated the map with all the changes.

Carthage retreats 3 in Lylabeum and Hamilcar and 5 to Cartaghe

Sent dictator to Naples and then change my move to

Minor Leader and 9 to Sutrium, Minor Leader Gaul displaced in Cluisum.
Roman could intercept with Maximus from Rome.
If no or win battle, siege
545 1/19/2021 3:01:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message I'm Happy for you and a little bit envious as you are often on holiday :-)
544 1/19/2021 2:38:00 PM 347-336 BC Greek Message Hi guys

I am just on holiday at the moment. I get back on Wednesday next week.
543 1/19/2021 2:35:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Return Strategy card to hand #25: 2 / Naval Transports

Message from Etruscan-Samnite:
542 1/19/2021 8:14:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Message No change from Gaul
541 1/19/2021 6:19:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message Obiouvsly Gaul and etruscan can revise last move
540 1/19/2021 6:17:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Return Strategy card to hand #14: 2 / The Sacred Band

Message from Roman:
well.
If the majority agrees that at the start of this turn Clusium and Arretium are Etruscan controled then I'll change my last move.
No play this card against Greek in Lylybaeum.
No move Dictator to Tarquinii, Instead move it and 10 CU to Neapolis.
Greek win the battle in lylybeum, Thurii remains Greek controlled and greek can spend 1 point of Loyalty.
etruscan has to decide where carthaginians retire.
539 1/19/2021 3:24:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message We do need to find an agreement otherwise we will be' stacked with this discussion. I am fine with both of your proposal even if obviously I tend towards the Gaul one that leaves me with Bribe for at least this turn...
538 1/18/2021 4:12:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message We have to decide what was the situation at the start of this turn and then we can play from that. My move could change according with our decision.
537 1/17/2021 3:56:00 PM 347-336 BC Greek Message Is the Greek up? Thanks
536 1/17/2021 3:56:00 PM 347-336 BC Greek Message Is the Greek up? Thanks
535 1/17/2021 7:41:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Message Why we cannot fix a phase skipped that can be fixed easyly.

I'll change my first move if etruscan can bribe

Pretty much answered your first question with your second message. My strategy and opportunities would have changed in Turns 2 to 4 if Etruscans could not bribe. ie VPs for attacking Etruscans.
534 1/16/2021 9:36:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message We have to stop and to determinate the correct position on the map at the start of this turn. I could change my First move and the card I played depending from the start ppsition
533 1/16/2021 5:29:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Please go ahead and I will change too if needed
532 1/16/2021 5:28:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message I'll change my first move if etruscan can bribe
531 1/16/2021 4:17:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message Let's keep the situation as it is, I really don't care much about bribe. Now I just need some luck in the battle vs the Roman...:)
I disagree "as It Is" mean Faesulae etruscan, Clusium and Arretium indipendents. Why we cannot fix a phase skipped that can be fixed easyly.
530 1/15/2021 7:01:00 PM 347-336 BC Gaul Message We cleared that Clusium and Aretium are indipendent

No we agreed to keep the situation as is as opposed to going back to the end of turn 1 to change them to independent and play on from that point.
529 1/15/2021 6:25:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Does Roman intercept?
Otherwise Greek Turn
528 1/15/2021 4:12:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message We cleared that Clusium and Aretium are indipendent
Gaul cannot Raid that spaces
A Gallic or Transalpine Gaul force in a space with another power’s PC marker may spend 1 MP to raid the space. Thus Gallic forces cannot raid walled city, tribal, or independent spaces.
527 1/14/2021 7:52:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Play Strategy card - Operations #25: 2 / Naval Transports

Message from Etruscan-Samnite:
Activate Egnatius in Bovianum
m1 Capua,

Roman could intercept from Terracina

then if win battle siege
526 1/14/2021 6:03:00 PM 347-336 BC Gaul Message 4
3
4+3=7, raid succeeds, gain 1 Plunder but lose 1 CU

Message from Gaul:
1
3
1+3=4 hence no effect try raiding again with last MP

Message from Gaul:
Sorry that move Minor leader B in Roma to Clusium 2MP and attempt to raid is with the 1 CU too.

Raid Clusium

Over to Etruscan Samnites
525 1/14/2021 6:02:00 PM 347-336 BC Gaul Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
3


Message from Gaul:
1
3
1+3=4 hence no effect try raiding again with last MP

Message from Gaul:
Sorry that move Minor leader B in Roma to Clusium 2MP and attempt to raid is with the 1 CU too.

Raid Clusium
524 1/14/2021 6:01:00 PM 347-336 BC Gaul Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
3


Message from Gaul:
Sorry that move Minor leader B in Roma to Clusium 2MP and attempt to raid is with the 1 CU too.

Raid Clusium

523 1/14/2021 6:00:00 PM 347-336 BC Gaul Play Strategy card - Operations #16: 2 / Land for Sucellus

Message from Gaul:
See journal 380 Caere was successfully raided by Gauls in T3R2.

T3 - GaulR2 2OPs - 4MPs
Repositioning Minor leader B from Sena Gallica to Roma
Move Minor leader B in Roma to Clusium 2MP and attempt to raid.
522 1/14/2021 6:52:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message Sutrium city 3 loyalty 1 Cu
Narnia city 3 loyalty 1 Cu
Praeneste city 3 loyalty
Velitrae city 3 loyalty 1 Cu
Capua city 3 loyalty 1 Cu
Tarracina city 2 loyalty Aemilus 11 Cu
Antium city 3 loyalty 3 Cu minor leader A
Roma city 3 loyalty Maximus 5 Cu
Dictator and 10 cu in Tarquinii
521 1/14/2021 6:49:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message Caere should be independent too.
Why ?
520 1/14/2021 6:42:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Message Caere should be independent too.

Can I have the Roman CUs by region not sure the map is right?
519 1/13/2021 4:41:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message then Thurii indipendent and Caere remains Etruscan.
confirm my move
518 1/13/2021 4:01:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message It is deabeatable nowadays that Sicility is part of Italy...;)

Part for the pourpose of this game Italy is only the Peninsula. Totally agree with the other issues that Gaul rightly pointed out. Rome can not take control of the space and since Gaul has more VP now it's up to me to decide, becase Greek can not decide about Carthaginians


517 1/13/2021 8:42:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Message 16.3 Movement/Retreat Restrictions
The following restrictions apply when a non-player power is activated for movement via the play of a Neutral Power Activates event,
attempts to avoid battle, or attempts to intercept.
• Carthaginian CU/leaders may not enter any spaces in Italy

Not sure how this rule makes sense isn't Sicily part of Italy?

1 Move dictator and 10 CU to caere, 2 convert to Roman Control, 3 move to Tarquinii (Etruscan has options). If it goes into the city I stop and besiege.

How can the Romans move and convert regions in the same move?

pg 6 7.1

A player may use a card to do one of four things:
• ACTIVATE LEADER: Activate a leader whose initiative rating is less than or equal to the card’s value (9.0).
• POLITICAL SUPPORT/LOYALTY: Increase political support by placing PC markers and/or increasing walled-city loyalty, in any combination up to the card’s value (7.3.1).
• REINFORCEMENT: If the card’s value is 3, place 1 CU as a reinforcement (5.10).
• EVENT: Cause the card’s event to occur, following the instructions on the card.

PLAY NOTE: Some card events conflict with the general rules in this rule book. In these cases the card events take precedence.

I am.not sure about this. I played a card from Carthaginian. I think I have to decide. But what Is the rule ?

pg 19 16.1
All decisions on behalf of a non-player power while inactive are made by the player who has the fewest VP and is not allied with the active player. This includes intercepting, avoiding battle, position inside/outside cities, retreating or placing/removing support after being victorious in battle.

So I think it is Etruscan/Samnite's choice.
516 1/13/2021 5:54:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message wrong game sorry
515 1/13/2021 5:54:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Roman:
Forgot Belgrade's besiege
514 1/13/2021 5:48:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message using your rule the gaul has to decide
513 1/12/2021 5:02:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message I am.not sure about this. I played a card from Carthaginian. I think I have to decide. But what Is the rule ?
512 1/12/2021 4:52:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Acutally I think ES win ties when even, so it's up to me to decide and I set Thurii indipendent as saved in log file
511 1/12/2021 2:50:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message Neapolis decrease to loyalty 2, then.
510 1/12/2021 12:23:00 PM 347-336 BC Greek Message I do have 2 CUs there.
509 1/12/2021 8:47:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message Please Greek check and list your units. I prefer, if you have 2 cu in Messana decrease loyalty of Neapolis to 2.
508 1/11/2021 4:00:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message In Messana there are two CU so u can't, but instead u we can flip Thurii..

Map updated after roman move
507 1/11/2021 6:42:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message No doubt stay inside :)
506 1/11/2021 6:40:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Play Strategy card - Operations #16: 2 / Servian Wall

Message from Roman:
1 Move dictator and 10 CU to caere, 2 convert to Roman Control, 3 move to Tarquinii (Etruscan has options). If it goes into the city I stop and besiege.
505 1/11/2021 6:40:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Roma non perdona...

Poor Greek that was very nasty
504 1/11/2021 6:06:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message Messana switch to Indipendent
503 1/11/2021 4:49:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Message perfect. That changes the victor of the combat. Carthigian remains there and only loses 2CUs and I lose 2CU.

You have 1 loyalty to use.
502 1/11/2021 4:44:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message 2 / The Sacred Band
Play before a battle involving a Carthaginian army. +2 to Carthaginian combat roll.
501 1/11/2021 4:37:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Message what does that card do? Can you copy the text into the message please?
500 1/11/2021 4:35:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Play Strategy card - Event #14: 2 / The Sacred Band

499 1/11/2021 4:33:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Message play the card now.


498 1/11/2021 4:17:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message I had a card to play for Carthaginian.
how can we do ?
497 1/11/2021 4:15:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message No you can put Caralis under indipendent control not Greek control, or increase your loyalty. You have not marker adiacent to Caralis.
496 1/11/2021 3:43:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Message I'll take the first batch of dice.

I win with 11 versus 10 for Carthaginian.

-3CUs for Carthigian, now 8CUs and retreat options.

-1CU for Greek, now 9CUs.


Is it 1 Loyalty loss now too? Can I use it to make Caralis Greek controlled?

495 1/11/2021 3:37:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 9

4
2
5
3
5
3
2
3
5


Message from Greek:
Roll a total of 9 dice.

First batch for Greek 3 dice

Second batch for Greek 3 dice

Third batch for Carthigian 3 dice
494 1/11/2021 3:17:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Yes. I Guess Roman and Gaul won't interfer because both have other issues please feel free to roll combact for u and Carthage
493 1/11/2021 3:15:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Message My leader is +4
Carthigian leader is +3

I am fighting on his territory so therefore no modifier.

Agree?
492 1/11/2021 3:13:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Play Strategy card - Event #31: 3 / Solar Eclipse

Message from Greek:
I'll play this before I roll the dice for combat.

#31: 3 / Solar Eclipse

Play before you roll the dice for any reason. Roll the dice twice and pick which result to use.

Remove after playing as event? Yes
Reshuffle? No
Naval Move Possible
491 1/11/2021 3:11:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message No intercept and no combact cards from my side in the battle then
490 1/11/2021 2:19:00 AM 347-336 BC Greek Play Strategy card - Operations #19: 2 / Neutral Power Activates

Message from Greek:
Activate Dionysus and 10CU and march on Lilybaum.

Any intercept in Panormus?
489 1/10/2021 12:39:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Let's keep the situation as it is, I really don't care much about bribe. Now I just need some luck in the battle vs the Roman...:)
Up to Greek
488 1/10/2021 8:15:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message I think that that we have a simple way to fix it.
Faesulae, arretium and clusium are indipendents from the first turn and bribery was never used until now. Not events are occurred from battle of Caralis to now so Etruscan can decide how he want to spend his 1 political support confirming the switch of Faesulae (knowing that Arretium and Clusium remain indipendent) or change that choosing another option.
487 1/10/2021 6:56:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Message Looking back you are correct. This is from the first turn, though and not sure how much strategies would have changed had it been known then.

Eg: I doubt Etruscans would have flipped Faesulae in reference 430 to preserve their Mines.

1/1 losses ES wins and stays with 2, flip Faesulae with 1 support gained (no attrition for Arretium and Clusium)

To me we either
1/ play on as is from with the regions remaining Etruscans or
2/ go back to end of Turn 1, fix the error at that point and play on from that position ie after the end of Turn 1.
486 1/9/2021 9:02:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message greek is up
485 1/9/2021 8:51:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message no bribe, spaces indipendent
484 1/9/2021 8:50:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message Faesulae was plundered in the turn 386-374
at the end of that turn roman and etruscan was not allied. Arretium and Clusium remain under indipendent control.
483 1/9/2021 8:48:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message 126 11/2/2020 1:55:00 PM 386-374 BC Gaul Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2
2
5
Message from Gaul:
Just in case, you are moving from Luna with 7 c.u. and 4 are in Ancona.
Correct ?

Not quite. 7 CU are moving from Luna but there are only 2 CU in Ancona

1MP to raid Faesulae 4MPs left
482 1/9/2021 7:59:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Message Rome allied with Etruscans see messages 235 & 236 so ES retains bribery ability and Arretium and Clusium remains Etruscan.

236 11/12/2020 10:47:00 PM 373-362 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message We are happy to accept this new conditions. Let's the people of Italy prosper and live in peace so!

235 11/12/2020 10:45:00 PM 373-362 BC Roman Message Now we want to make a final and decisive gesture to verify if we still have hostile enemies or if this condition is now overcome. We offer an alliance to the Samnite Etruscan guaranteeing that both the Roman and his Carthaginian ally will not perform hostile actions.
481 1/9/2021 6:17:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message Roman seems right so no bribe and spaces to indipendent
ES pass, save cards for the battle vs the Roman steamroller

Map updated with correction
480 1/7/2021 12:46:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message wrong game sorry
479 1/7/2021 12:46:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message eliminate ge c and flip ge c
Ah 11 advances to Florence
478 1/7/2021 12:26:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message Etruscan is up
477 1/7/2021 12:24:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message ended
476 1/7/2021 12:23:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Return Strategy card to hand #19: 2 / Neutral Power Activates

Message from Roman:
Cannot do this
475 1/7/2021 12:22:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message see 299
that turn was 373-362 BC
In that turn faesulae was indipendent and roman and Etruscan was not allied.
At the end of that turn, in the isolation phase that we skipped, Arretium and Clusium became indipendent.
Only in the subseguent phase (end/renew alliance) Roman and etruscan made an alliance and, at that time, Arretium and Clusium was indipendent and remain indipendent even when Faesulae in the last Turn returns under Etruscan control.
474 1/6/2021 2:48:00 PM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message I agree with Bind with attrition

5. Sequence of Play
Each turn is divided into phases played in the following order:
1. Etruscan Mine Depletion Check Phase
2. Draw Cards Phase
3. Determine First Player Phase
4. Play Cards Phase
5. Attrition Phase
6. Surrender Phase
7. Isolation Phase
8. Scoring Phase
9. End/Renew Alliances Phase
10. Reinforcement Phase

Based on that I was still allied with Rome, and actually this turn too so was not so necessary to flip the space.


Regarding Popolunium move instead

16.3 Movement/Retreat Restrictions
The following restrictions apply when a non-player power is activated for movement via the play of a Neutral Power Activates event,
attempts to avoid battle, or attempts to intercept.
• Carthaginian CU/leaders may not enter any spaces in Italy

so u can't do
473 1/6/2021 7:16:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message See 299 where Gaul sayd
"There are 5 independent markers on the board:
1/ Hatria
2/ Reate
3/ Spoletium
4/ Sentium
5/ Fasulae"
At the end of that turn Roman and Etruscan was not allied and Arretium and Clusium became indipendent controled.
Now Faesulae is again under Etruscan control but not Arretium and Clusium
472 1/6/2021 6:34:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Message "Note as Faesulae was converted back to Etruscan control Clusium and Arretium are not isolated."
See 455 they were isolated 2 turns ago, Feasulae was retaken only in the last turn. They remain indipendent controled.

Actually since the Etruscans and Romans were allies then correct me if I am wrong but supply could be traced via Caere, Roma and Sutrium.
471 1/5/2021 11:17:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Play Strategy card - Event #19: 2 / Neutral Power Activates

Message from Roman:
I have to move neutral power
Hamilcar and 10 Cu move to Populonia
Etruscan could intercept.
470 1/5/2021 11:15:00 AM 347-336 BC Roman Message "Note as Faesulae was converted back to Etruscan control Clusium and Arretium are not isolated."
See 455 they were isolated 2 turns ago, Feasulae was retaken only in the last turn. They remain indipendent controled.

469 1/5/2021 8:03:00 AM 347-336 BC Gaul Play Strategy card - Operations #29: 3 / Tumultus Gallicus

Message from Gaul:
Guys, if it is up to me to fix update the map after Rome's moves to make my moves expect long delays between my moves. I also need to prioritise my tournament PoG game and have a few more other games on the go.

Gaul will renew their alliance with Rome else I will lose my CU.

Sorry but this game is already highly likely to be an easy victory for Rome.

While the Greek's early alliance with Rome helped secure their southern border,
Carthage crippling the Greeks was a huge boon for Rome and effectively put the Greeks out of the war.

While the Transalpine Gauls are relatively easy to beat for Gaul. Having them sit as a threat on the periphery ties down Gallic CUs to have to stand guard.

Gaul did try to take on Rome early on while they were vulnerable, but Gaul was pretty much on its own and poor die rolling meant it was soon more prudent for Gaul to simply accept alliance rather than persist.

Note as Faesulae was converted back to Etruscan control Clusium and Arretium are not isolated.

Add 1 CU to Sena Gallica.
468 1/2/2021 12:26:00 PM 347-336 BC Roman Message I propose to Gaul to renew alliance
467 1/2/2021 8:02:00 AM 347-336 BC Etruscan-Samnite Message We skipper Carthaginin reinf as well.

3 Reg to Lilybaeum

I won't renew Alliance with Rome now it's getting too powerful and I invite others to do the same..

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