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Entry # Time Turn Player Title Entry
912 4/12/2021 12:35:00 PM Master ID = 23940 Game Deleted
911 4/11/2021 8:32:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message I was lucky to get Bolshevik Revolution and Treaty of Brest-Litovsk on the last card draw, otherwise it would have been a very close game. You pressed me hard, and I was running out of troops. I liked your defense of Russia; I didn’t think I’d ever break through. And the Italians were a real nuisance in the Balkans. You played well and I look forward to our next encounter.
910 4/11/2021 7:42:00 PM Winter 1919 Allies Message With that, I will concede. Well done. Grodno held you back but you finally broke through.
909 4/11/2021 3:41:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #45: 4 / Treaty of Brest Litovsk
May only be played after "Bolshevik Revolution". RU units may no longer attack. CP units may not attack RU units except TU units may attack on the Near East map. Both sides may still move into unoccupied spaces and may still suffer attrition, besiege forts, and resolve sieges. Also see 5.5.2.

War Status increased to 13

Message from Central Powers:
CP4
908 4/11/2021 2:50:00 PM Winter 1919 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #40: 2 / 14 Points
May only be played after "Zimmermann Telegram". Only the Allied player may offer Peace Terms for the rest of the game. Subtract 1 VP.

Message from Allies:
AP3
907 4/11/2021 1:18:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message T2 trench in Liege
906 4/11/2021 1:18:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Central Powers:
Liege entrench
905 4/11/2021 1:17:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message T1 trench in Vilna
904 4/11/2021 1:17:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Central Powers:
Vilna entrench
903 4/11/2021 1:16:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #53: 5 / Bolshevik Revolution
May only be played if Russian Capitulation marker is in the "Bolshevik Revolution Allowed" box. No more than 1 RU RP may be spent each turn. Current and future RU MOs become “None”.

Message from Central Powers:
GE 11th Army: Vilna entrench
(GE Corps): Sedan to Stuttgart
GE 4th Army, GE 7th Army: Essen to Sedan
GE 5th Army: Liege entrench
902 4/11/2021 1:02:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message 7-5

GE Corps: CP Reserve Box (3,0) to Sedan
GE 6th Army: Sedan to CP Eliminated
GE Corps: Sedan to CP Eliminated

901 4/11/2021 12:59:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
2


Message from Central Powers:
12A+1 to 12A+1
900 4/11/2021 12:59:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Combat #18: 2 / Fortified Machine Guns
A GE entrenched defender adds a +1 drm.

Message from Central Powers:
Sedan
899 4/11/2021 11:45:00 AM Winter 1919 Allies Play Strategy card as Combat #19: 2 / Air Superiority
A BR or FR attack adds +1 drm. ANA, AUS, CND, or PT do not qualify as BR for this purpose.

Message from Allies:
For Sedan
898 4/11/2021 11:44:00 AM Winter 1919 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #48: 4 / Royal Tank Corps
May only be played after "Landships". Cancels trench column shifts for a BR attack against a clear space in France/Belgium. Does not cancel trench effects for flanking, Fortified Machine guns CC, or negation of retreat. May only be used in 1 Combat per turn. ANA, AUS, CND, or PT do not qualify as BR for this purpose.

Message from Allies:
AP2
M Calais US2 to Bar de luc
M Petrograd RU6 to Dvinsk
C Brussels
C Cambrai
BR 1, 2, 4, and 5 attack Sedan 12A to 12A
Will cc for +1
897 4/11/2021 11:23:00 AM Winter 1919 Allies Message Right I should have flipped FR5 don't flip RUcs
896 4/11/2021 10:58:00 AM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message Did you catch #881 and #882?
895 4/11/2021 10:49:00 AM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message T2 trench in Kovno
894 4/11/2021 10:49:00 AM Winter 1919 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Central Powers:
Kovno entrench
893 4/11/2021 10:49:00 AM Winter 1919 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #30: 2 / Alpenkorps
A GE attack to or from a mountain space adds +1 drm.

Message from Central Powers:
GE 11th Army: Kovno to Vilna
(GE Corps): Kovno to Insterberg
GE 10th Army: Kovno entrench
AH 6th Army: Przemysl to Lemberg
892 4/10/2021 8:46:00 PM Winter 1919 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #47: 4 / USA Reinforcements (2nd Army)
May only be played after "Over There". 2nd Army, 1 corps.

Message from Allies:
To Calais RB (3.0)
891 4/10/2021 4:57:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #37: 2 / Hoffman
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Adds +1 to all future CP Mandated Offensive die rolls.

Message from Central Powers:
GE Corps: Florina to CP Reserve Box (3,0)
GE Corps: Kovel to CP Reserve Box (4,0)
890 4/10/2021 4:27:00 PM Winter 1919 Allies Draw Strategy cards
889 4/10/2021 2:50:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message Messed up the MO. Should be:

TU
RU
888 4/10/2021 2:03:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Message None
BR
887 4/10/2021 2:02:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

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Message from Central Powers:
MO
CP
AP
886 4/10/2021 1:48:00 PM Winter 1919 Central Powers Draw Strategy cards
885 4/10/2021 1:48:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers End Turn
884 4/10/2021 1:48:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Discard Strategy card #3: 2 / Von Francois

Message from Central Powers:
Keep 1 card
883 4/10/2021 1:44:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message GE: 6, AH: 4, TU: 2, BU: 2

Liege: (GE 5th Army) => GE 5th Army
Metz: (GE 9th Army) => GE 9th Army
GE 7th Army: CP Eliminated to Essen
GE 4th Army: CP Eliminated to Essen

AH Corps: CP Eliminated to CP Reserve Box (5,0)
AH Full

BU Full
TU Full

882 4/10/2021 1:39:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message (FR5) is in Nancy; FR4 is in Verdun.

FR: Flip FR4 Nancy; FR9 Verdun; FR10 Mulhouse
881 4/10/2021 1:37:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message You only have 4 RU RP:

RU: RU6 to Petrograd; Flip RU12 Dvinsk; Flip RU10 Vinnista; flip FR(c) in Moldecheco and Kishinev
880 4/9/2021 10:22:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message Yes, 14 VP is my calculation also.
879 4/9/2021 10:10:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Message VP Check

VPs taken: Sedan, Belgrade, Warsaw, Kovno, Lodz +5
Card points: +5 Richstag, High Seas, Fall of Tsar
Missed MO: +1
Bid: +1
Total +12

AP
VPs taken 0
Cards points -8 Rape Belgium; Blockade (5), Luisitania, Zimmerman

-18

Currently 14 (counting the last VP deleted for blockade)

Is this what you have?

878 4/9/2021 9:55:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Discard Strategy card #5: 2 / Putnik

Message from Allies:
Hold 1 Card
877 4/9/2021 9:54:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Message A: 1, BR: 3, FR: 3, IT: 2, RU: 4

A: GRc to RB
BR: Flip BR2 and BR5 in Brussels; Flip BR4 in Cambrai
FR: Flip FR4 Nancy; FR9 Verdun; FR10 Mulhouse
IT: 2 ITc to RB (5.0)
RU: RU6 to Petrograd; Flip RU12 Dvinsk; Flip RU10 Vinnista; flip FR(c) in Moldecheco and Kishinev
876 4/9/2021 9:45:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Message Flip BR3 and BR4; elim BRc
875 4/8/2021 10:12:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message 4-7

GE Corps: CP Reserve Box (2,0) to Sedan
(GE 7th Army): Sedan to CP Eliminated
Sedan: GE Corps => (GE Corps)

874 4/8/2021 10:10:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
6


Message from Central Powers:
Sedan 12A to 15A
873 4/8/2021 9:43:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #38: 2 / USA Reinforcements (1 corps)
May only be played after "Over There". 1 corps.

Message from Allies:
AP6
C Brussels
C Cambra
BR1 and BR5 in Brussels and (BR4) BR3 and BR(c) attack Sedan
12A to 15A
872 4/8/2021 7:13:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message Should be:
TU Corps: CP Reserve Box (0,0) to Constantinople
871 4/8/2021 7:11:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #42: 3 / Turkish Reinforcements (YLD Army)
YLD Army.

Message from Central Powers:
TU Corps: CP Reserve Box (0,0) to Constantinople Virtual Space
AH Corps: Cracow to Metz
BU Corps: CP Reserve Box (0,0) to Liege
TU Corps: Liege to Strasbourg
870 4/8/2021 6:37:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message 5-5

GE Corps: Metz to CP Eliminated
Metz: GE 9th Army => (GE 9th Army)
869 4/8/2021 6:34:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
2


Message from Central Powers:
Metz 12A to 16A
868 4/8/2021 5:53:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #9: 3 / Moltke
May only be played in August or September 1914. CP Activation in Belgium or France costs 1 OPS per unit (not space) until the "Falkenhayn" card is played. All units must be activated in a space. Supersedes Sud Army and Eleventh army card effects.

Message from Allies:
AP5
OPS

M Belfort (FR10) and 2 FRc to Mulhouse.
C Verdun
C Nancy
FR4 and US1 in Verdun and the three armies in Nancy attack Metz 12A to 16A
Losses from FR5 in Nancy
867 4/8/2021 4:41:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #26: 4 / Place of Execution
May only be played after the "Falkenhayn" and before the "H-L Take Command". A GE attack vs. an undestroyed FR fort space adds a +2 drm. May be played alone as an event (for War Status) if all FR forts are already destroyed.

Replacement points: AH: 2, BU: 1, GE: 3, TU: 1

Message from Central Powers:
CP5
866 4/8/2021 1:34:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #53: 5 / Army of the Orient (FR Reinforcements)
Place the French Orient Army in the Salonika space if Allied controlled, subject to stacking limits. See 9.5.3.4.

Replacement points: A: 1, BR: 3, FR: 3, IT: 2, RU: 4

Message from Allies:
AP4
RPs
865 4/8/2021 11:51:00 AM Fall 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #40: 3 / Air Superiority
A GE attack adds +1 drm.

Message from Central Powers:
GE Corps: Salonika to CP Reserve Box (2,0)
GE Corps: Florina to CP Reserve Box (3,0)
BU Corps: Kovel to Liege
TU Corps: Mostar to Liege
864 4/8/2021 11:38:00 AM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message 4-7

GE Corps: CP Reserve Box (1,0) to Liege
GE 14th Army: Liege to CP Eliminated
GE Corps: Liege to CP Eliminated

Brussels: BR 2nd Army => (BR 2nd Army)
863 4/8/2021 11:36:00 AM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
3


Message from Central Powers:
Liege 9A to 9A
862 4/7/2021 8:06:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #51: 4 / Everyone Into Battle
May only be played after at least one of the following has occurred: "Blucher", "Michel" or "Peace Offensive". Allied units in Italy, France and Belgium are considered one nationality for Activation for the rest of this turn (only). Rule 12.1.11 still applies.

Message from Allies:
AP3
M C-T (FR10) to Belfort
M Calais MEF to C-T; US1 to Verdun
C Brussels attacks Liege 9A to 9A
861 4/7/2021 7:40:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #50: 4 / Blucher
May only be played after "H-L Take Command". Cancels all trench effects for 1 GE attack. Play prior to Attempt Flank Attack Step. A trench does not need to be present.

Replacement points: AH: 2, BU: 1, GE: 3, TU: 1

Message from Central Powers:
CP3
860 4/7/2021 7:21:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #43: 3 / USA Reinforcements (1st Army)
May only be played after "Over There". 1st Army, 2 corps.

Message from Allies:
Place in Calais
2 in RB (2.0)
859 4/7/2021 7:18:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Message Losses for Sedan
Flip FR10 C-T, flip FR9 Vedun and elim FR(c) in Verdun
858 4/7/2021 12:39:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message T1 Liege
857 4/7/2021 12:39:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Central Powers:
Liege entrench -1
856 4/7/2021 12:39:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #24: 3 / Libyan Revolt (TU Reinforcements)
May only be played if there are no Allied units in the Libya space. Place the SN unit in Libya. SN unit is always in supply. Space converted by the SN units are checked normally during the Attrition phase.

Message from Central Powers:
AH 11th Army: Trent to Stuttgart
GE 6th Army: Strasbourg to Sedan
GE 5th Army: Liege entrench -1
855 4/7/2021 12:20:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message 3-7

Sedan: GE 7th Army => (GE 7th Army)
854 4/7/2021 12:19:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
5


Message from Central Powers:
Sedan 6A to 12A
853 4/7/2021 12:15:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message AH Corps: Monastir to CP Eliminated

Advance AH 1st Army, GE Corps, GE Corps to Florina
852 4/7/2021 10:41:00 AM Fall 1918 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Allies:
Slutsk
851 4/7/2021 10:40:00 AM Fall 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #55: 5 / Over There
May be played on any turn after "Zimmerman Telegram". Allows play of "US Reinforcements". ALL Allied RP cards played now include 1 US RP.

Message from Allies:
AP1 OPS/Event

M London BR2 to Brussels; (BR4) to Cambrai; MEF to Calais
M Petrograd RU1 to Szawli
M Slutsk dig
C CT
C Verdun
FR 3 and 10 (CT) and FR4, FR9, and FR(c) attack Sedan 6A to 12A
850 4/7/2021 10:29:00 AM Fall 1918 Allies Message 4-2 Elim ITc and GRc Retreat IT 5 to Athens
849 4/7/2021 10:27:00 AM Fall 1918 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1


Message from Allies:
Oh ok
CP 5A
AP 4A
848 4/6/2021 9:39:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message One AH unit and up to 2 GE corps may stack together and be Activated for a cost of 1 OPS point.
847 4/6/2021 9:35:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message Monastir is 1 ops with SUD Army
846 4/6/2021 9:05:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Message You would have needed 6 OPS for your move
Essen
Liege
Kovno
Valona
Monistir (2 ops)
845 4/6/2021 9:02:00 PM Fall 1918 Allies Draw Strategy cards
844 4/6/2021 8:05:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message Oops, I shorted myself 1 RP. Flip both (GE Corps) in RB.
843 4/6/2021 7:48:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message Forgot:

AH 5th Army: Valona attack Florina
AH Corps, GE Corps, GE Corps: Monastir attack Florina
5A vs 4A
842 4/6/2021 7:46:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Central Powers:
Kovno entrench
841 4/6/2021 7:46:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Central Powers:
Liege entrench
840 4/6/2021 7:46:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #52: 5 / Fall of the Tsar
May only be played if Russian Capitulation marker is in the "Fall of Tsar Allowed" box. Add 1 VP plus an additional 2 VP if RO is still neutral. RU Activation costs 1 OPS per unit, not space, for Combat only (even if all units in the space do not participate in attack(s).) RU corps may no longer move (can still SR) between the To Caucasus Box and the Near East.

Message from Central Powers:
GE 14th Army: Essen to Liege
GE 3rd Army: Essen to Metz
GE 5th Army: Liege entrench
GE 10th Army: Kovno entrench
839 4/6/2021 7:42:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Message None
FR
838 4/6/2021 7:41:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
5


Message from Central Powers:
MO
CP
AP
837 4/6/2021 7:41:00 PM Fall 1918 Central Powers Draw Strategy cards NOTE: The deck was reshuffled on this deal.
836 4/6/2021 7:41:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers End Turn
835 4/6/2021 7:40:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Message Keep 1 card
834 4/6/2021 7:40:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Message GE: 6, AH: 4, TU:3, BU:1

GE 3rd Army: CP Eliminated to Essen
GE 14th Army: CP Eliminated to Essen
(GE Corps): CP Eliminated to CP Reserve Box (0,1)
(GE Corps): CP Eliminated to CP Reserve Box (0,2)

AH Full
TU Full
BU Full

833 4/6/2021 7:26:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Message Hold last two.

You are down to two spaces in France and Belgium, so you lose that bonus RP
832 4/6/2021 7:23:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Message A: 1, BR: 2, FR: 2, IT: 1, RU: 3
A: Full
BR: Place BR2 in London
FR: Flip FR5 Nancy and FR9 in Vedon
IT: Flip IT2 in Balongna
RU: Place RU1 in Petrograd box; place 2 RU(c) in RB (2.2)
831 4/6/2021 7:15:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Message BR1 and BR5 advance. Replace trench with allies level 1 trench.
830 4/6/2021 6:54:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Message Yes, you're right. So it's:

(GE Corps): CP Reserve Box (0,0) to Brussels
GE 3rd Army: Brussels to CP Eliminated
(GE Corps): Brussels to CP Eliminated

(GE 5th Army) retreat to Liege

829 4/6/2021 4:00:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Message Elim BEF(c)
Elim (BR2) and flip replacment corps.

I have only a GE(c) in the RB to replace the army. Is that what you had? If so, you would have to retreat the remaining army
828 4/6/2021 3:05:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Message 7-5
Eliminate full-strength army and replacement corps
827 4/6/2021 3:02:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
5


Message from Central Powers:
Brussels 12A to 9A
826 4/6/2021 12:25:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #39: 2 / They Shall Not Pass
Cancels any retreat for losing a combat if defending in a non-destroyed FR fort space. A FR unit must be present in the space. Card remains face up until a combat is lost or until end of turn.

Message from Allies:
AP6
OPS
C Ostend
C Cambrai
Ostend BEF(c) and BR1
Cambrai (BR2), BR3, and BR5
12A to 9A

825 4/6/2021 11:20:00 AM Summer 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #42: 3 / Turkish Reinforcements (YLD Army)
YLD Army.

Replacement points: AH: 1, BU: 0, GE: 2, TU: 1

Message from Central Powers:
CP6
824 4/5/2021 7:42:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Message The BEFc should just be flipped. It has 2 loss factors on its full size
823 4/5/2021 7:40:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Message Flip FR5 in Nancy
Elim FR6 in Verdun; Flip its replacment corps
822 4/5/2021 7:06:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Message 7-7

GE 14th Army: Metz to CP Eliminated
(GE Corps): Metz to CP Eliminated
821 4/5/2021 7:03:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
5


Message from Central Powers:
Metz 12A to 15A
820 4/5/2021 7:02:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Message 7-5

GE Corps: CP Reserve Box (1,1) to Brussels
GE 12th Army: Brussels to CP Eliminated
GE Corps: Brussels to CP Eliminated

BEF Corps: AP Reserve Box to Ostend
(BR BEF Army): Ostend to AP Permanently Eliminated Units
BEF Corps: Ostend to AP Permanently Eliminated Units

819 4/5/2021 7:00:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
2


Message from Central Powers:
Brussels 12A to 15A
818 4/5/2021 6:44:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #54: 5 / Zimmermann Telegram
May only be played if U.S. entry marker is in the "Zimmerman Telegram Allowed" box. Subtract 1 VP. US joins the Allies. Allows play of "Over There" on any following turn.

War Status increased to 20

Message from Allies:
AP5
OPS/Event

M Rome (IT2) to Bologna
C Cambrai
C Ostend
(BEF), BR1, and BR(c) in Ostend and BR3 and BR5 in Cambrai attack Brussels 12A to 15A

C Nancy
C Verdun
All attack Metz 12A to 15A

817 4/5/2021 4:37:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Central Powers:
Kovno entrench
816 4/5/2021 4:36:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #28: 4 / Tsar Takes Command
May only be played if the Russian Capitulation marker is in the "Tsar Takes Command Allowed" box.

War Status increased to 12

Message from Central Powers:
CP5

GE 11th Army: Kovno entrench
GE 10th Army: Tannenberg to Kovno
AH 1st Army: Tirana to Valona
GE 8th Army: Grodno attack Vilna
Auto
No advance
815 4/5/2021 4:11:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Message AP4 One ops

M Petrograd
RU2 to Szwawli; (RU12) to Dvinsk
814 4/5/2021 4:01:00 PM Summer 1918 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #53: 5 / Bolshevik Revolution
May only be played if Russian Capitulation marker is in the "Bolshevik Revolution Allowed" box. No more than 1 RU RP may be spent each turn. Current and future RU MOs become “None”.

Replacement points: AH: 3, BU: 1, GE: 4, TU: 2

Message from Central Powers:
CP 4

Yes, you can change your move.
813 4/5/2021 3:55:00 PM Summer 1918 Allies Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #52: 4 / Convoy
May only be played after "U-Boats Unleashed". Cancels effects of that card. Subtract 1VP.

Replacement points: A: 1, BR: 2, FR: 2, IT: 1, RU: 3

Message from Allies:
AP3
RPs

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