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132 2/5/2021 9:01:00 AM Fall 1914 Allies Message ah, that makes sense, indeed!
131 2/5/2021 9:00:00 AM Master ID = 27215 Game Deleted
130 2/5/2021 8:59:00 AM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message First thank you for playing and being a good sport. As to the question about the units in France and Belgium, they are out of supply so they can't perform any actions except defense. Here is the rule. 14.1.2 Tracing Supply: To be in supply, units must trace supply through any number of friendly controlled spaces to a friendlycontrolled supply source.

As to the card, "Race to the Sea" is only required while the CP play is below a level 4 on the War Commitment track. Once they reach 4 the restriction is automatically lifted.


129 2/5/2021 8:51:00 AM Fall 1914 Allies Message sure :-)

rather than figuring out whether London can attack Ostend with units in Brussels or not...?

BTW, isn't there a card which should allow finishing movemenet on the shores in Belgium? March to the see or sg? As if I have seen it somewhere.

Nope, Allies are fine. Let's see how long I can survive the next war!

And congrats!
128 2/5/2021 8:49:00 AM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message Do you want to switch sides or play the same?
127 2/5/2021 8:48:00 AM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message I would say that this war is over. Let's start another?
126 2/5/2021 8:47:00 AM Fall 1914 Allies Message no problem there.

JUst a question: does it make any sense to continue the game, with the Western front practically destroyed and the war in the west won?

French forces are out of the game and soon the British will be so.
125 2/5/2021 8:46:00 AM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message For reference on attacks from London see 12.1.10 London and Taranto: Units in London may conduct a Combat only if the Combat also involves friendly units located
in a space in either France or Belgium. Italian units may attack
across the Taranto–Valona dotted line without friendly units
located in Albania or Greece.

All of the supply rules are in 14.0 Supply.

Feel free to ask any questions.
124 2/5/2021 8:39:00 AM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message I uploaded the file. I also noticed that I had the wrong year in the file names so I corrected that for the recent files. Sorry about that.
123 2/5/2021 8:34:00 AM Fall 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #27: 4 / Zeppelin Raids
Subtract 4 BR RPs from the BR RP total during the Replacement Phase of this turn.

Message from Central Powers:
These ops will be used for movement in France to surround the rest the French, British, and Belgian armies and put them out of supply.
122 2/5/2021 8:00:00 AM Fall 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

2
2
6


Message from Central Powers:
I didn't know if I should roll the dice for entrenchment attempts? If so they are in order Sedan, ChateauT, and Melum
121 2/5/2021 4:16:00 AM Fall 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #14: 4 / British Reinforcements (1st Army)
1st Army, 1 corps.

War Status increased to 2

Message from Allies:
file is up
120 2/5/2021 4:13:00 AM Fall 1914 Allies Draw Strategy cards NOTE: The deck was reshuffled on this deal.
119 2/5/2021 4:13:00 AM Fall 1914 Allies Discard Strategy card #4: 2 / Pleve

Message from Allies:
118 2/4/2021 11:56:00 PM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message T3A1_CP 4 OPS is all movement on Western front with entrenchment rolls for Sedan, ChateauT, and Melum. Vlog loaded.
117 2/4/2021 11:50:00 PM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message Belfort destroyed.
116 2/4/2021 11:50:00 PM Fall 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Central Powers:
Forgot to roll for the Siege of Belfort.
115 2/4/2021 11:43:00 PM Fall 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #61: 4 / Haig
Entrenched GE units in France/Belgium/Germany may ignore all retreat results vs. attacks with BR units this turn. No effect after play of Michel, Blucher, Peace Offensive.

Message from Central Powers:
114 2/4/2021 11:39:00 PM Fall 1914 Central Powers Message File loaded and picture. I am trying a new nomenclature. T3Fall16_A1_CP for the vlog coming soon.
113 2/4/2021 11:32:00 PM Fall 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5


Message from Central Powers:
The CP is at limited war status and the Turks have joined them.
This is the MO for the CP player on Turn 3
112 2/4/2021 11:32:00 PM Fall 1914 Central Powers Draw Strategy cards L war cards added to deck.
111 2/4/2021 11:30:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers End Turn
110 2/4/2021 11:30:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message There are no Sieges and it looks like there are no RPs for either side so I will advance the turn marker and pull cards as well as roll for MO.
109 2/4/2021 11:28:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message Spaces also change control by attrition unless they have a fort in them. This converts Dijon to CP control.
108 2/4/2021 11:24:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message You are correct. No full strength British units means no retreat. The sequence is Attrition next which means all Out of Supply units are eliminated. And armies that are eliminated due to OOS are permanently eliminated.
107 2/4/2021 7:19:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message file up.
106 2/4/2021 7:17:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message AP causes 3 LF and CP casues 4 LF.

GE 2nd Army => (GE 2nd Army)
Paris: FR 10th Army => (FR 10th Army)

105 2/4/2021 7:15:00 PM September 1914 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
4


Message from Allies:
ok, battle in Metun.

6 AP CF and 7 CP CF, rolls on the same chart.

top AP, bottom CP.
104 2/4/2021 7:14:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message no, since there are no full strenght BR units. thus, no retreat.
103 2/4/2021 7:13:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message dr5 on AF6-8 is 5 steps, dr1 on 12-14 is 4.

GA4A is flipped, corps is desatroyed.

BOth BR amry and corps is flipped.

(GE4A) and GE5A should retreat 1 step.

Could they "retreat" to Metun eg.?


102 2/4/2021 7:08:00 PM September 1914 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1


Message from Allies:
BR A+C (CF6) attacks CH T. CP CF 12.

BR roll (1st) on 6-8, CP is 12-14. (2nd)
101 2/4/2021 7:06:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message agree with your conlusion re coalitions :-)

100 2/4/2021 6:57:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message 12.1.6 No unit may attack more than once in a single action. No
space can be attacked more than once in a single action. A unit’s
CF cannot be divided between multiple Combats.
99 2/4/2021 6:56:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message Just saw the follow up question about attacking twice into ChateauT. A space may only be attacked once per action round.
98 2/4/2021 6:53:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message The reasoning for this is that when nations are stacked together the Ops costs to activate that space increases and therefore is more costly to do. This also shows the very real difficulty experienced in WW1 and even WW2 with managing and controlling armies from different nations that do not report to a unified command structure. AKA Coalitions suck!

97 2/4/2021 6:50:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message ok, so this means instead of a single attack, I can attack 2x, with each stack, right?

any CC?
96 2/4/2021 6:50:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message Because French & British forces are not stacked together in one of the attacking spaces they maybe not combine. Only one of the spaces may attack ChateauT and no flank attack can be attempted.
95 2/4/2021 6:45:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message Here is the rule on multi-national attacks.

12.1.11.1 Multi-national Attacks from Two or More Spaces:
Multi-national Attacks can occur from more than one space if
one of the spaces in the attack contains units of all involved
nationalities. Any other space(s) involved in the same Combat
may contain units from any of the nationalities in the common
space. Each participating nation must have a unit in the common space participating in the attack. Due to this restriction
and stacking limits, no Combat may involve more than three
nationalities on each side.
94 2/4/2021 6:44:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message I should have designated the front space. But it makes no difference, because both PAris and Cmabrai are adjacent to other enemy units.

Cambrai is the front space.

No drm, thus the flank fails.

No CC for me.

Pls, resolve the battle.
93 2/4/2021 6:40:00 PM September 1914 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Allies:
flank
92 2/4/2021 6:39:00 PM September 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #5: 2 / Putnik
May only be played in 1914 and 1915. SB units get a +1 drm for an attack or defense.

Message from Allies:
1 OPS fpr activating 2 FRA is Paris and 1 OPS for Cambrai, attacking Chateua Thierry.

Total AP CF is 12 and CP CF is 12.

First, flank attack.
91 2/4/2021 6:02:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message You are correct, this is a good learning the mechanics and possibilities for the game. Please try to break the line and rescue the surrounded French units.
90 2/4/2021 6:00:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message I uploaded the vlog. And yes, I am up for a rematch.
89 2/4/2021 5:55:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
2


Message from Central Powers:
Movements have been completed per the vlog T2 A6 Sep1914_CP Envelopment.
First die is for additional entrenchment at Sedan and second die is for Liege.
88 2/4/2021 5:53:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #12: 4 / German Reinforcements (10th Army)
10th Army, 2 corps.

Message from Central Powers:
This will be the turn then. 4 ops all movement. I will roll for the entrenchments and update the vlog and send over for the AP player action 6.
87 2/4/2021 5:44:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message I suggest to move along. All these bits and pieces come from "real" play. AT least I have seen that there is a lighting campaign possible.

I maight have to yield late 1914 and I hope that you are up for a rematch.
86 2/4/2021 5:38:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message I would be more than happy to make this my real turn and play on. I just wanted to make sure that I understand how the game works and am not making a mistake. What would you like to do?
85 2/4/2021 5:34:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message even a full out attack on Sedan and a roll of 6 for the attacker would not displace those units in one turn because the trench would allow them to hold the point by taking another step loss. It takes 8 steps to destroy the German, French or British armies. Expectation is BEF which can take 10 steps.

84 2/4/2021 5:19:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message nice move!

but would not a succesful counterattack at Sedan put the German armies in the same situation?
83 2/4/2021 4:53:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message I have uploaded the vlog for you to review and tell me how to proceed.

82 2/4/2021 4:44:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message I just reviewed the movement from the AP action 5 and this sets up for a massive envelopment of the French front line. I will perform the moves in the VASSAL vlog and send them over for you to look over and if you would like, you can adjust your movements in action 5.

81 2/4/2021 4:39:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message That sounds like an excellent idea. So when an battle is declared, the attacker adds any and all CC cards and sends his instructions to the defender. The defender will then play cards in ACTS and send out the rolls for the battle. I like it.

I am really enjoying this as well.
80 2/4/2021 4:32:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message A suggestion: one the active player has submiited its move and asking for a CC, then the passive / responsive player may rtoll the dice upon delcaring whether or not he is playing a CC.

Besides, just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy the game. I am still learing the mechanics, far from any strategical view or ide but the game looks a masterpiece indeed!

so, thx for inviting me!
79 2/4/2021 4:29:00 PM September 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #3: 3 / Russian Reinforcements (11th Army)
11th Army, 1 corps.

Message from Allies:
FRc from PAris to Dijon;
FRc from Verdun to Dijon;
London stack to Cambrai.
78 2/4/2021 3:44:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message French corps in Belfort were destroyed and the Germans lost a corps. The GE army and corps moved into to Belfort and the entrenchment was eliminated. Belfort is besieged. Vlog is uploaded.
77 2/4/2021 3:38:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
3


Message from Central Powers:
Battle for Belfort. GE Army and 2 corps for AF9 attacking 2 corps with 2 fort for AF4 on corps table. Trench and mountain puts CP on army 5 column and AP on corps 5 column. Frist die is GE attack and second is French response.
76 2/4/2021 3:26:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message no CC either
75 2/4/2021 3:13:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message French corps was eliminated. No affect to GE armies. GE will not advance. Next battle is Mulhouse all units AF 9 attacking Belfort 2 French corps with 2 fort and entrenchment. No CC for CP. Any for AP?
74 2/4/2021 3:09:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
3


Message from Central Powers:
Sedan GE armies AF 10 vs ChateauT with 1 corps. No CC. First die is GE attack and second is French response.
73 2/4/2021 3:06:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message no CC
72 2/4/2021 3:06:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message File for first battle uploaded.
71 2/4/2021 3:04:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message I keep forgetting that we should be asking about the play of combat cards. The CP first attack is for Sedan to Chateau Thierry 2nd & 3rd armies only. The corps will sit out the battle. Not CC cards for the CP. Any for the AP?
70 2/4/2021 2:57:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message Sedan and Mulhouse activated for attacks and Budapest for movement. AH 7th army moves to Timisvar. Attack details an rolls are coming.
69 2/4/2021 2:55:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #7: 3 / German Reinforcements (9th Army)
9th Army.

Message from Central Powers:
Playing this card for ops.
68 2/4/2021 2:36:00 PM September 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #2: 4 / Blockade
Subtract 1 VP during the War Status Phase of each Winter turn.

Message from Allies:
BR corps in London, FR in Paris aand Nancy, RU in Tarnopol.
67 2/4/2021 12:52:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message Falkenhayn played and Moltke restrictions lifted. vlog file uploaded.
66 2/4/2021 12:50:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #13: 4 / Falkenhayn
May be played on Aug/Sep 1914 turns only after the "Moltke" is played or without restriction beginning in Fall 1914. Cancels the effects of "Moltke". Allows play of "Place of Execution"

War Status increased to 4

Message from Central Powers:
65 2/4/2021 9:03:00 AM September 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #1: 4 / British Reinforcements (2nd Army)
2nd Army, 1 corps.

War Status increased to 1

Message from Allies:
in London. file is up.
64 2/3/2021 11:39:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #14: 4 / Austria - Hungary Reinforcements (7th Army)
7th Army, 2 corps.

Message from Central Powers:
AH 7th army to Budapest.
63 2/3/2021 7:56:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message pls use AP2 vlog - uupdated the AP action round chart.
62 2/3/2021 7:43:00 PM September 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #10: 3 / French Reinforcements (10th Army)
10th Army.

Message from Allies:
10th Army in Paris. file up.
61 2/3/2021 7:32:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message The CP turn 2 action 2 was to move the corps from Bremen to Konigsberg and pull a corps from the reserve to Mulhouse.
60 2/3/2021 7:31:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message I am not sure what happened but it looks like the Allies card for Entrenchment used a OPs was not registered in the vlog. I also called the action number wrong. The latest vlog is CP action 2. It is now AP action 2.
59 2/3/2021 7:22:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Strategic Redeployment #56: 2 / Withdrawal
Defending units negate one required Corps step loss and instead retreat 1 space. This also cancels any retreat caused by losing the combat. If no Corps step(s) lost, an Army step loss may be negated.

Message from Central Powers:
Playing for SRs
58 2/3/2021 4:49:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message the joint BEF, FRench and BElgian forces barely manage to dig in.

file is up.
57 2/3/2021 4:48:00 PM September 1914 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3


Message from Allies:
attempt at entrench
56 2/3/2021 4:47:00 PM September 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #12: 3 / Entrench
Place a Level 1 Trench (not improve a Level 1 to Level 2) in any space occupied by a supplied friendly Army. Both players may now entrench. Only one player may play this card as an event.

Message from Allies:
activation in Brussels - 3 OPS
55 2/3/2021 4:39:00 PM September 1914 Allies Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Allies:
MO roll
54 2/3/2021 3:36:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message CP action 1 completed. vlog uploaded.
53 2/3/2021 3:34:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Event #6: 3 / Entrench
Place a Level 1 Trench (not improve a Level 1 to Level 2) in any space occupied by a supplied friendly Army. Both players may now entrench. Only one player may play this card as an event.

Message from Central Powers:
Playing as an event and placing a trench in Sedan.
52 2/3/2021 3:32:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Central Powers:
Turn 2 Mandatory Offensive for CP.
51 2/3/2021 3:17:00 PM September 1914 Allies Draw Strategy cards
50 2/3/2021 3:16:00 PM September 1914 Allies Message T1 AP conclusion uploaded
49 2/3/2021 2:38:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Draw Strategy cards
48 2/3/2021 2:38:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Discard Strategy card #3: 2 / Von Francois

Message from Central Powers:
47 2/3/2021 2:37:00 PM September 1914 Central Powers Message I see that the option to discard unwanted combat cards before pulling new cards for Turn 2.
46 2/3/2021 2:36:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers End Turn
45 2/3/2021 2:32:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers Message I completed the end of turn updates for CP. Allies need to allocate RPs and send back the vlog. I will now advance the turn tracker in ACTS.
44 2/3/2021 1:39:00 PM August 1914 Allies Message haha :-)

that concludes the action phase, doesn't?

AP failed the MO, so 1 VP.
43 2/3/2021 1:36:00 PM August 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #8: 2 / Russian Reinforcements (2 corps)
2 corps.

Replacement points: A: 0, BR: 1, FR: 1, IT: 0, RU: 1

Message from Allies:
42 2/3/2021 12:22:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers Message No advance by the AH army. We will stay in our cozy fort in Przemysl.
41 2/3/2021 12:21:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers Message Sorry. I forgot to mention in the note that the Russian corps in Lemberg needs to retreat.
40 2/3/2021 12:20:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers Message CP turn completed. File uploaded.
39 2/3/2021 12:14:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2


Message from Central Powers:
Return fire of 2 corps in Lemberg.
38 2/3/2021 12:13:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from Central Powers:
Movement from Czernowitz completed. Army & corps to Stanislau.
Now the roll request for the Przemysl attack on Lemberg. CP AF3 army vs AP AF2 corps
37 2/3/2021 12:05:00 PM August 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Operations #2: 2 / Wireless Intercepts
A Flank Attack Attempt involving at least one German unit (army or corps) vs. a space containing only RU units is automatically successful.

Message from Central Powers:
36 2/3/2021 11:35:00 AM August 1914 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #7: 2 / Severe Weather
Defending units in a mountain space in Fall/Winter or a swamp space in Spring/Fall get a +2 drm.

Message from Allies:
moves in the east
35 2/3/2021 10:54:00 AM August 1914 Central Powers Play Strategy card as Replacement Points #10: 3 / SUD Army
One AH unit and up to 2 GE corps may stack together and be Activated for a cost of 1 OPS point. A different stack may be chosen each Action Round. If a second AH unit or a second non-GE corps unit is present, then the activation cost is 2 OPS points. This event does not supercede rule 12.1.11.

Replacement points: AH: 1, BU: 0, GE: 2, TU: 1

Message from Central Powers:
34 2/3/2021 10:30:00 AM August 1914 Central Powers Message Looks good Andras.
33 2/3/2021 3:28:00 AM August 1914 Allies Message thx for the correction!

uploaded revised the file to DB.

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