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666 9/18/2021 12:50:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message (if you prefer to know the result of Prussian resource roll before going on, anyone could roll the die in fact...)
665 9/18/2021 12:49:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I'm sorry for Napoleon, very bad luck.

Spain is up (did you read my message about the Spanish reserve event?)
664 9/18/2021 12:46:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Finally a great (and lucky) day for coalition
Ru and Pru lose 1, Au none

Pru should roll for resource .
663 9/18/2021 12:39:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message Napo is not what it was... moves to Linz with 2 unis + massena

Prussia must roll for resource
662 9/18/2021 12:37:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4


Message from France:

661 9/18/2021 12:33:00 PM 1807-1808 France France: Play Strategy card as Event #904: 5 / Napoleon
If Napoleon is present, you may commit the Imperial Guard after seeing all other battle dice. Roll four more battle dice. Besides inflicting hits, rally a disrupted French Unit for each "4" rolled by the extra dice. Only Napoleon's presence at some point during the battle is required, not his well-being. RESERVE

Message from France:
Napoleon mounts his horse....
660 9/18/2021 12:22:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message so the result is
5k 2d vs 2k 2d
Napoleon is routed, losing 7 units and inflicting 2 kills on the allies, or does he play some response?
(in case of rout a die shall be rolled for possible resource gain by Prussia)
659 9/18/2021 12:19:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message (no effect)
658 9/18/2021 12:19:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1


Message from Britain:
I think you forgot the die for failed evasion.
If you confirm, this is the additional result against the French...
657 9/18/2021 12:11:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Itís a rout. What will Napoleon do?
656 9/18/2021 12:05:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message 2 killed, 2 disrupted
655 9/18/2021 12:04:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6


Message from France:
Vive la France !!!!
654 9/18/2021 12:02:00 PM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10


Message from France:
Napo's fire

first 10
653 9/18/2021 11:58:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Coalition result 5 kills, 3 disrupt.

Wait for NapoleonĎs fire
652 9/18/2021 11:53:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 5


Message from Russia:
Coalition last fiive
651 9/18/2021 11:53:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10


Message from Russia:
Coalition second 10s
650 9/18/2021 11:52:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10


Message from Russia:
Coalition first 10 rolls
649 9/18/2021 11:50:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message 25 vs 16 (Matteo spotted a mistake in the dice roll of last battle).

Iíll roll 25 for coalition
648 9/18/2021 11:39:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Battle
25 vs 15
I ask for confirm before rolling...I'messing it up...
647 9/18/2021 11:21:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message (it was the main objective of the Swedish invasion, btw)
646 9/18/2021 11:20:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message flags are forces!
The current enemy forces in Hiberic peninsula are 6, so if you play the reserve as event there is no need to roll a die: you just draw a card (but only one)
645 9/18/2021 11:19:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1


Message from France:
oooops....sorry, I come back to Napo evasion
I must roll 4 or more
644 9/18/2021 11:19:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message You are making another mistake with Spain (first you have to resolve Nappy's evasion, btw)
643 9/18/2021 11:18:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Luca stop!
642 9/18/2021 11:17:00 AM 1807-1808 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Event #910: 5 / Peninusula Campaign
Roll a die. If your roll greater than the number of Enemy Forces in Spain, Lisbon, Oporto, and Gibraltar, draw two cards. You must play one of them. Otherwise, draw a card which you may play or keep. Not playable in 1805. RESERVE

Message from France:
I must roll 2-6 to draw 2 cards
(there is a Swedih (!) in Navarre)
641 9/18/2021 11:14:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message (you need a 4, with two dice)
640 9/18/2021 11:13:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Luca for evasion you have to roll two dice.
Given that the first is a 1, it is not sure that Napoleon evaded succesfully...
639 9/18/2021 11:07:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Turkey has no cards to play
638 9/18/2021 10:56:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Napo in Linz (and all his grognards with him)
637 9/18/2021 10:55:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1


Message from France:
Napo evades to Linz (hopefully)
636 9/18/2021 9:56:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message I realise that we don't know if Napoleon wants to fight or evade: it should be declared before battle cards play!
635 9/18/2021 6:09:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message No battle cards for Russia
634 9/18/2021 3:50:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message No response cards from Britain (both before and after battle)
633 9/18/2021 3:49:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message please declare any battle cards (or responses to play before battle), so the battle can be resolved.
As both Gordon and Alessandro had the occasion to declare possible card plays, can we assume that they play no cards before battle, even if they didn't specify it?
(next time specify, please)
632 9/18/2021 3:45:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message I think it is better to write in ACTS (to be recorded in the log) any answer to questions written in ACTS, especially if they concern moves done or not done.

1) Charles preferred to remain in Vienna
2) the last Austrian CP was not used (the SP in Prague preferred to remain in Prague, rather than join the armies in Moravia - Gordon: no attrition is applied when you cross mountain passes to enter a friendly duchy; no one suggested to move Prague's SP to Vienna, suiciding him alone against Napoleon :)
631 9/18/2021 1:12:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Russian troops will march loyally with his allies. I presume that also Charles go. You forgot to play your last Cp. Will the unit in Praga join the army in order to have 26 dices?
630 9/17/2021 8:27:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Prussia: Play Strategy card as Operations #906: 6 / Raise the Landwehr
Place three Units and a Leader in any Friendly Prussian Home Duchy. The event (only) cannot be used on Turn 1: the 6 CPs and the "+" capability are usable on Turn 1. RESERVE

Message from Austria:
Blucher and 6u from Berlin to Breslau, Moravia (2cps) pick up Kutuzov, Bagration and 9cu, along with little Ferdinand and his measly 2 and move on Vienna (6cp).

I presume Ru and Au go along?
629 9/17/2021 8:19:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message With so few units and none left to build. Resource lost.
628 9/17/2021 8:17:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message I still have no idea what to do with one CP...
627 9/17/2021 12:06:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message In particular, Britain having only 4 flags is unacceptable 😁
626 9/17/2021 12:02:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message Concerning flag limits, Alessandro, I think you reported in your message the number of LEADERS that each nation has
(I did the same mistake when looking at the Swedish sheet and saying that Sweden had only 3 flags, while in fact she has 5 flag counters in tue box).
Can you check?
625 9/17/2021 11:11:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Gordon may end its impulse with Austria and then play Prussia
624 9/17/2021 11:08:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Russia: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Russia:
Draw card for resource
623 9/17/2021 11:07:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Iíll anticipate my impulse spending (me too) my resource to draw one card
622 9/17/2021 10:49:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message I will not play surprise cards
621 9/17/2021 10:30:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message I complete national informations with force pool limits:

France: 14 infantry, 16 cavalry, 8 artillery, 9 squadrons
Austria: 14 inf, 8 cav, 4 art
Russia 14 inf, 8 cav, 4 art, 4 sqdrn
Prussia 10 inf, 4 cav, 4 art
Britain 12 inf, 4 cav, 2 art, 11 sqdrn
Ottomans: 8 inf, 4 cav, 3 art, 2 sqdrn
Spain: 7 inf, 3 cav, 1 art, 4 sqdrn
Sweden: 4 inf, 3 cav, 1 art, 1 sqdrn
Denmark: 4 inf, 1 cav, 1 art, 2 sqdrn

620 9/17/2021 10:19:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Yes I can anticipate my impulse.

I have a correction about flags. As I told before there is the indication of the flags in the national sheets of the second edition. I checked my box and the limits are the following:

France: 11
Russia: 8
Austria and Prussia: 5
Britain: 4
Sweden and Ottomans (not Turkey that didn't exist yet): 3
Spain: 2

619 9/17/2021 9:47:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Alessandro might also anticipate his impulse, if he will be doing almost nothing (as he was thinking to do in case of Prussian entry in the war).
So Gordon may be able both to finish the Austrian impulse (1 CP) and do the Prussian impulse (more relevant 😉)
618 9/17/2021 9:45:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Is France thinking about a possible response play, or can Luca specify that there is no response?
("Unblocking" the game when Gordon will be active again)
617 9/16/2021 6:25:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message I already played a card, right?
Still, have to decide about the last CP from my last card...
616 9/16/2021 6:25:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Yes, you have a Cp left
615 9/16/2021 6:22:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Prussia: Change Nation Owner to Austria Message from Austria:
614 9/16/2021 6:19:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message And don't I have 1 CP left now?
613 9/16/2021 6:18:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Operations #91: 5 / Egyptian Venture
TRADE CENTERS: Corfu, Malta, Western Med, Ionian Sea, Majorca, Corsica, Aegean Sea, Bergama. This nation has 1 CP for each Trade Center it controls. Gain a Resource if a die roll is less than the number of Trade Centers controlled by its Camp. Add 1 to the die roll for each Trade Center controlled by the Enemy Camp.

Message from Austria:
and now my card - PR to AU ally. FINALLY. Thanks to Britain and especially Russia for making this possible. Any response?
612 9/16/2021 6:17:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Austria: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Austria:
611 9/16/2021 6:17:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message 1) I will sell a resource to buy a card...
610 9/16/2021 5:58:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Yes, Prussia is Austrian partner +1

Franz, remember your brother Emperor who is giving his blood to offer you a new mighty ally.
609 9/16/2021 5:44:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I confirm except
3) Can anybody tell me what France has in Vienna? I have Nap, Lan and 8cu.

In Vienna there are Nap, Mas and 9 SPs.

I send you my CB map via email, as your comment about Moore makes me think you might have missed other moves.
608 9/16/2021 5:31:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message So, let me see if I know where we stand.
1) Britain moved Moore and 3CPs to Kent, even though I though he moved them to Naples. I'm not even going to ask where they came from, as I don't really want to get into another long conversation, Moore and 4cu in Kent.
2) Russia has 9cu and his leaders plus Austria has leaders and 2cu in Moravia, right?
3) Can anybody tell me what France has in Vienna? I have Nap, Lan and 8cu.
4) My understanding is that Russia's card puts Prussia council ay AU partner +1, right? I will wait for confirmation.
607 9/16/2021 1:53:00 PM 1807-1808 France Message I confirm my impulsi
Austria is up
606 9/16/2021 11:26:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message For example, Luca, if you want you could now undo your last CP play and your resource play (knowing the card you have taken, which should be discarded if you undo this action), as the change on Prussia's consul position might imply some change in your plans.
Please specify if you keep your last part of the impulse unchanged.
If yes, also the British one is unchanged and Austria can proceed with his impulse.
605 9/16/2021 11:19:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message On the other hand, when a retroactive card is played the active player can undo subsequent actions that he did (also knowing possible results of dice rolled for these actions!), so sometimes it may be an advantage also for the active player (with respect to ftf games).
604 9/16/2021 11:15:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message I understand your point of view, but not fully share it. I admit I don't know HIS, my experienced is based on several games of TNW, Wellington and Kutuzov played by e-mail in the past (also with ACTS for TNW, anyway ACTS or pbem the problem is the same).
In these games, you can stop for battle cards before each battle round (if you want to stay safe from late battle cards play), but for sure you cannot anticipate all possible response cards to decide when to stop for possible responses!
In very important battles usually you stop enough times to have all cards played at the right moment, but in other cases you may avoid to do it.
The concept to apply is: if you go on with your impulse, you are taking the risk of retroactive plays, but this is part of the game played by ACTS!
If you want to stop when you feel some response "arriving" you can always stop and ask (but if done often the game becomes boring).
603 9/16/2021 10:42:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Yes Luca, you are right in case of playing combat cards after the dices were rolled (unless the card specifies this option).
602 9/16/2021 10:01:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Ok for Alessandro' response card, because it doesn't affect dice rolls or anything else happened before,
I think that playing a surprise card after seeing dice rolls or a succesful enemy move is not correct.
I've played several HIS games on ACTS and it was never allowed.
I suppose all of us know cards (however, there is a card manifest Here on ACTS). If in-phase player thinks someone could response, he should ask for declarations before resolving rolls/moves
It will slow down a bit game flow...just a bit.
We are playing fast, we are reactive and professionali...I think we could wait a bit for player response :-)

601 9/16/2021 8:57:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Good news for Austria and the Coalition!
Austria is up.
Will he have 4 CPs to bring Prussia in the war?
(then he would move with Prussia just after... Prussia still has one card and one 6 CPs reserve...)
600 9/16/2021 8:43:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message *to Russian aide +1
599 9/16/2021 8:36:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Sorry, I put the Prussian consul in a wrong box after Talleyrand (that moved two space, not only one).

So 6 CP to Prussian consul to Austrian partner +1
Turkish consul stays at Russian consul +1
598 9/16/2021 8:26:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message I have the Prussian consul in Austrian friend +1
Then if you spend:
1 CP -> Autrian aide
2 CPs -> Austrian aide +1
5 CPs -> Austrian partner (which might allow to get it allied in the coming Austrian impulse, if he has a 5 CPs card in hand or draws it by spending its resource)
6 CPs -> Austrian partner +1 (then a 4 CP card would be sufficient in his impulse to gat it allied)

3 CPs on Prussia seems not an option :)
597 9/16/2021 8:08:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message "I knew that you understood the threat"

3 CP on Prussian consul (to Austrian partner)
3 CP on Turkish consul (to Russian partner).

France and Britain can redo their moves after the battle of Vienna (sorry for that).

Ps: second time in a row that I saw this card (as France with the terrible "disentery"), Is that ok, Acts?
596 9/16/2021 7:56:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1


Message from Russia:
CP gained for the card
595 9/16/2021 7:55:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Event #96: 2 / Tipping the Scales
Immediately following the Resource Gain attempt die roll of ANY Army Rout, roll a die. You may spend that many CPs on the Diplomatic Track to move any Consul(s) in either direction. A die roll of 6 is needed to break Pact status.

Message from Russia:
Response played after the battle and resorce roll.

A call to arms to all European power: "The ogre is conquireing all of Europe. King of Prussia, magnificient Sultan. All of you are in danger. Join the fight".
594 9/16/2021 7:47:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Alessandro you are kind to ask, but I think it is not necessary.
When playing this type of interactive games by e-mail or ACTS, any retroactive response (or even battle card) played by someone who didn't have the occasion to play the card when it shoud be played (in ftf game) is always acceptable. Even if it affects dice rolls or something happened after, and your card is not even in this case!
Otherwise we should stop at each single step to ask if someone has to play something, waiting for all answers before going on (= the game would be unplayable)
593 9/16/2021 7:20:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message The choice was not influenced by the subsequent plays
592 9/16/2021 7:09:00 AM 1807-1808 Russia Message Loss distribution is 9 Austrian, 6 Russian (sorry, my brother Emperor Franz). In Moravia now there is a plagued army with Kutozov-Bagration-Benningsen+9, Charles-Ferdinand+2

I'm then asking you permission to use a response card that I could play only after a roll for a resource after an army rout; I'm telling you now because I couldn't interact during the (Italian) morning.

It will not affect the outcome of battle.
591 9/16/2021 5:39:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Yes Vienna
590 9/16/2021 4:00:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message "My last CP
French flag on Linz"

I suppose you meant Vienna, did you?
(Linz was already French flagged)
589 9/16/2021 3:44:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Russia to specify dysentry+battle losses distribution (8A-7R? 9A-6R? else?), than Austria is up for scheduled impulse.

For next time: dystentry losses should have been applied (deciding who suffers them) before battle
588 9/16/2021 3:36:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #44: 3 / Fleet in Irons
Void a Maneuver, evasion or interception by any one Fleet or Grand Fleet (even after making/failing an evasion/interception dice roll). Any Maneuver used is expended and that Fleet must pay double for further Maneuvers in this Impulse. A voided evasion does not penalize that Fleet in battle for a failed evasion attempt.

Message from Britain:
3 CPs:
1/3: Moore+3 join 1 in Kent (now Moore+4 are in Kent)
2/3: remove refit marker and move Sq from Sussex to Channel (now 2 Sq in Channel)
2.5/3: 1 Sq from Channel to NAO (leaving 1 in Channel)
3/3: Sq from SAO to Western Meditierranean
587 9/16/2021 3:36:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message I'm very undecided in this impulse... I might also pass after spending the resource... But some pressure on France seems urgently needed... (we cannot rely only on the brave Swedes :)

586 9/16/2021 3:26:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message mmh, not very useful :(
585 9/16/2021 3:24:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Britain: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from Britain:
For the moment I think Au-Ru still have enough cards (and resources) to build and fight, so I spend my resource to draw a card (it may also useful for your next battle), postponing my reserve plays (reserve and resource cannot be played in the same impulse).

Britain now has no more resources.
584 9/16/2021 3:14:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message I think at least Austria should use its resource to draw a card in his next impulse, also considering that if Austria is conquered any unspent resource is lost to reparations (rule 15.5)
583 9/16/2021 3:09:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Austria and Russia have 3 cards, and one from British Parliament can be added (choosing the better between Au and Ru - I think Au is better for reinforcements, if Alessandro can tell that his 2 cards will allow 2 attacks)
582 9/16/2021 3:07:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message we crossed messages with Luca, so now France has 1 resource (and 2 cards + guard reserve in hand)
581 9/16/2021 3:06:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message Britain is up
580 9/16/2021 3:06:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message So France earned another resource (now he has 2, again).

If I'm not wrong, in the end Kutuzov army group has a strength of 19 dice. If Austria has a 4 or 5 CPs card in hand it can grow to 21 dice before counter-attack.
All is not lost!
579 9/16/2021 3:05:00 AM 1807-1808 France France: Draw Extra Strategy Card Message from France:
One resource for a card draw
One resource left
578 9/16/2021 3:01:00 AM 1807-1808 France Message My last CP
French flag on Linz
577 9/16/2021 2:59:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message Alessandro after taking losses please specify the final composition of Kutuzov's army group, to ensure alignment among our maps.
576 9/16/2021 2:57:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message So both Austria and Russia shall take at least 4 losses, then Alessandro must decide how to distribute the other 7 losses. Gordon proposed 8 Au and 6 Ru (but 1 one missing), but it is Alessandro who should tell the last word.
Anyway you will end up with 3 armies (for movement costs), from British point of view it seems a good idea to lose more Austrians as they can be replaced more easily on the spot (e.g. in next Austrian impulse, before trying to counter-attack in the Russian impulse).
575 9/16/2021 2:57:00 AM 1807-1808 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1


Message from France:
Roll for a resource
574 9/16/2021 2:56:00 AM 1807-1808 Britain Message I'm sorry for my allies, but while reading again the messages to update my CB map I spotted a couple of errors.
If I'm not wrong:

1) 30 dice were rolled for the allies, while they should have been 29 (35 at start less 6 lost to dysentry - yes dysentry attrition losses are applied before battle)); unfortunately, the 30th die rolled (entry 563) was a 6!
So the hits against Napoleon were 4k 5d (not 5k 5d).
-> now I have in Vienna Nap+Mas+9 (16 dice)

2) the allies suffered a total of 6+8=14k and 1d, as correctly reported by Gordon, but with rout this means 15 losses, not 14.

Then I made an error when saying that all losses should be distributed evenly: in fact the 6 attrition losses can be distributed at will by the Commander (rule 9.4), only the 9 battle losses shall be distributed evenly (with the Commander deciding who suffers the excess kill - rule 11.31).
573 9/15/2021 6:22:00 PM 1807-1808 Russia Message Kutozov to Moravia full of grief (and belly ache)
572 9/15/2021 5:53:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message 7 SP each for Austria and Russia
571 9/15/2021 5:53:00 PM 1807-1808 Britain Message I don't see mistakes
(apart from "6 of 30, exactly average, right?" - not exactly ;)
Well, in fact if I well remember the losses must be distributed evenly in multi-national armies, so you lose 6 SP each for Austria and Russia.

Kutuzov should decide where to retreat.
Napoleon should roll for another possible resource (1-3 needed, having routed Kutuzov) and complete the French impulse.
570 9/15/2021 5:52:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message How nice, Spain had a 6 card.
569 9/15/2021 5:52:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message and Spain did not flip the Prussia consul marker over, right, card says it can just move it 2 spaces.
568 9/15/2021 5:42:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message Anyway, I know there are mistakes in there. Please let me know.
567 9/15/2021 5:42:00 PM 1807-1808 Austria Message So in total, coalition lost 14 and French 5. I will take 8 losses (leaving me with 3) and Russia can take the other 6, leaving him with 9 (I think), We STILL have a larger army than Napoleon, but those dysentery losses did the trick.

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