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Entry # Time Turn Player Title Entry
161 9/17/2021 1:59:00 AM Master ID = 26968 Game Deleted
160 9/12/2021 5:51:00 AM Sep-Dec 1942 Japanese Message hi Dave, I wonder if we should stop this game?
159 8/17/2021 11:29:00 AM Sep-Dec 1942 Japanese Message hi Dave, you're up for next move. Just checking if you have been on holiday or busy with other things? ... or lost interest in the game? :)
158 7/31/2021 3:06:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Japanese Message hi Dave, I am back from holiday so we can resume our game.
PBM file up
157 7/17/2021 7:39:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Message surprise is achieved
156 7/17/2021 7:38:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

7


Message from Allies:
intercept roll 0-10 +4drm
155 7/15/2021 4:49:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Event #12: 3 / Operation MI: Battle of Midway
Activation: Any HQ. Logistic Value: 8 Conditions: All battles must be fought in one hex islands. Long Range Reconnaissance of Pearl Harbor: If French Shoals (5508) is not in an Allied air ZOI or within 3 hexes of a US CA naval unit, then the Allies add +4 to any intelligence die roll due to superior Japanese information security.

OC: 5 EC: 8

Message from Japanese:
Let's start with this, one battle to resolve
There is a +4 drm to the intel roll.
154 7/14/2021 1:50:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Message Being that we have the same number of cards now, I don't think I can go first with a future offensive card any longer. So, over to you for JP1
153 7/14/2021 1:47:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Draw Strategy cards Drew 7 cards.

152 7/14/2021 1:08:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Japanese Draw Strategy cards Drew 7 cards.

151 7/14/2021 1:08:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Japanese Message file up; I draw my cards
150 7/13/2021 9:47:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Message file uploaded
149 7/13/2021 9:47:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

8


Message from Allies:
Submarine warfare roll. +1AP drm. Game turn 4.
148 7/13/2021 9:13:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Message Another one bites the dust.

147 7/13/2021 9:13:00 PM Sep-Dec 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

3


Message from Allies:
Looks like only one air unit (14AF) can be sent to Europe this turn. 0-3 and it goes.
146 7/10/2021 11:30:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese End Turn
145 7/10/2021 11:30:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Change US Political Will From 6 to 4
144 7/10/2021 11:30:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message I posted a file to end the turn. You can place your reinforcements (and replacements unless you want to play by the book)
143 7/10/2021 11:14:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #36: 3 / Operation Cherry Blossom: Bougainville Landing
Activate: Any HQ. Logistics Value: 5 Arleigh Burke: US CA naval units have 2 added to their attack strength for the duration of this Offensive.

OC: 3 EC: 5

Message from Allies:
Active SEAC +4. No combat. File loaded.
142 7/10/2021 10:22:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message file up, bty for the last card
141 7/10/2021 8:29:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Allied plane destroyed. CA flips. Midway Japanese controlled. Back to you for your pbm file.
140 7/10/2021 8:27:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

7
8


Message from Allies:
Battle A Midway

JP 20 factors 0drm
AP 10 factors 0drm
139 7/10/2021 8:23:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

7


Message from Allies:
Surprise roll 0-7
138 7/10/2021 7:54:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Operations #82: 3 / Indian Worker's Strike
Move the India Status marker one box toward India Revolts, if already in India Revolts box there is no additional effect. Bonus: The Allies lose 1 ground replacement step next game turn and any other ground replacement steps available during the next game turn can only be used for non-Commonwealth ground units.

OC: 5 EC: 0

Message from Japanese:
Attack on Midway, not as glorious as the real one though!
137 7/9/2021 11:10:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #40: 3 / Operation Dexterity: New Britain Invasion
Activate: Any HQ. Logistic Value: 5 if US SW HQ, for all others: 3

OC: 3 EC: 5

Message from Allies:
Will build that route after all then. file loaded
136 7/7/2021 1:21:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message file up, bty
135 7/7/2021 1:45:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Can see any reason to react. It's an auto. Back to you for pbm.
134 7/7/2021 1:41:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

0


Message from Allies:
Suprise roll. 0-4.
133 7/4/2021 12:43:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Operations #68: 2 / Japanese Army/Navy: Central Agreement
This event ends a Japanese inter-service rivalry. Flip the Japanese Inter-Service Rivalry marker to its Strategic Agreement side. If the Japanese Inter-Service Rivalry marker is already on Strategic Agreement side there is no additional effect. Bonus: If this card is played as an event, the Japanese have the option to discard a card of their choice and re-place it with any card from the discard pile (not those removed from play).

OC: 4 EC: 0

Message from Japanese:
File up, one battle to resolve

I posted the question on the SW forum and so far got 3 responses confirming my interpretation (including Don Chappell who has been playing CSW staff games with Mark H for the past 15 years or so).
132 7/4/2021 12:09:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Strategy card as Future Offensive Message from Allies:
AP6. No file. Will build Jarhat in next file.
131 7/3/2021 11:48:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message I don't think this is really critical in our game, so I suggest we go on with the route built. I don't mind either way, and we will hopefully get a confirmation from Mark later on. I actually wanted to post the question on CSW earlier today (hoping he would answer there) but got distracted by other stuff. Will do shortly.
130 7/3/2021 10:56:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message It's not a major issue, but it does impact what card I may play next. The lack of response to my skip bombing questions, which was pretty clear suggests to me that nobody really knows the answer or in the case of Mark or Francisco, doesn't want to touch it. This is another clear question imo. It either does or does not apply. It will be curious to see if this one gets a response either. Let's wait a day or two and see what happens. I may try to create an account on consimworld and ask there as well.
129 7/3/2021 2:47:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message Fair point. The wording “cancel the offensive” is similar to the weather cards, so I think it is reasonable to assume it has the same meaning with Gandhi (as this effect is not explained anywhere else in the rules). But I acknowledge there is some interpretation and assumption there. Let’s see if Mark H clarifies your question on BGG!
Does this impact your decision for what to do next in our game?
128 7/2/2021 7:55:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Not convinced that the rule you pointed to would prevent the US Rivalry from flipping, nor the road being built as your Reaction card was not a weather card. I'll need to investigate this for more clarity.
127 7/2/2021 12:46:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Future Offensive Message from Japanese:
file up, bty
126 7/2/2021 12:38:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message No, the route is not built! see 5.32D

The cancelation of the Offensive also prevents any event bonuses or reinforcement units from entering play.
125 7/2/2021 10:29:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message And yes. 2 Ind in Dacca will be reduced.
124 7/2/2021 10:24:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message I am assuming, even though the SEAC activation was canceled, the Jarhat would still be built. Is that correct?
123 7/1/2021 9:28:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Draw Extra Strategy card
122 7/1/2021 9:28:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Event #21: 3 / Mahatma Gandhi: Worker Strikes in India
Can only be played in reaction to an Offensive activated by the SEAC HQ. Cancels a SEAC HQ offensive and the Allies must reduce one full strength Indian Corps (cannot eliminate a reduced unit, if none available, no additional effect). Draw one Strategy Card. Remove from play if used as an event.

OC: 5 EC: 0

Message from Japanese:
I cancel your last SEAC activation. I draw a card and then I will reset to the initial board position in my next file. Which Indian corp do you want to reduce, I presume Dacca?
121 6/30/2021 4:09:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message File loaded. No battles
120 6/30/2021 3:56:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #33: 2 / Quadrant Conference: Burma Offensive
Activate: Any HQ. Logistic Value: 3 Conditions: Only air and ground units may be activated. Bonus: This event ends a US inter-service rivalry. Flip the US Inter-Service Rivalry marker to its Strategic Agreement side. If the US Inter-Service Rivalry marker is already on Strategic Agreement side there is no additional effect. In addition, the Allies may immediately construct the Jarhat Trans Route for no cost. If Jarhat already constructed the either Ledo or Imphal can be constructed.

OC: 2 EC: 4

Message from Allies:
Oh no. Didn't mean to imply that. Just trying to learn the game so I don't care about winning. Playing the 1942 scenario, I definitely felt rushed to do things I would probably not have done otherwise. But, it's all good. Activating SEAC here for 4 activation and building Jarhat.
119 6/30/2021 3:33:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message By the way, if you feel it is somehow unfair to continue, I am happy to reset.
But I think it might be interesting for you to see how it plays out. I learned a lot from playing my first game with a very experienced and skilled player (which I am not yet, though :)
118 6/30/2021 3:29:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Event #55: 3 / WAR IN EUROPE: Major Axis Victory
Decrease the War in Europe marker a number of spaces equal to the value associated with the year of the current game turn: 1942: 3 1943: 2 1944: 1 1945: No Effect Remove from play if used as an event.

OC: 5 EC: 0

Message from Japanese:
file up, bty
117 6/30/2021 11:16:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Looking things over I definitely might have played some things differently in the campaign game. But, the allies will take its only pass. Again sorry for the delay. No file.
116 6/27/2021 12:33:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message I admit though that I do need to put more focus on managing the VP conditions as outlined in the scenario. If I had a better understanding of how the Allies can win, then perhaps a majority of defensive play + a few minor offensives could be enough to pull the win off via the VP conditions. Right now though my only goal was to just try to learn the nuances of the rules and some basic do and don't in terms of strategy. I've definitely achieve some of those goals.
115 6/27/2021 12:27:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message I don't think you can play that card for the event in the 1942 scenario. I have no interest in playing the full campaign starting in 1941. I am no expert by any means (this being my 2nd game playing the Allies in the 1942 scenario and 3rd game playing the 1942 scenario overall), but the Allied options for game turn 4 do not seem to be that much better to me in the 1942 scenario. Thinking the 1942-1944 (game turns 2-10) or the 1942-1945 (game turns 2-12) might be more interesting for the Allies to play since they would experience the full spectrum of the war a year of disadvantage, a year of equal advantage and a year of advantage. Just my thoughts as a newbie.
114 6/27/2021 12:03:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Event #74: 1 / Tokyo Rose: Mrs. Iva Ikuko D'Aquino
Reduce US Political Will by one. Remove from play if used as an event.

OC: 3 EC: 0

Message from Japanese:
file up
You said "Maybe the full 1942-1945 would be more interesting to play as the Allies".. did you mean the full campaign with December 1941 turn?
If so it is worse for the Allies.
Don't be fooled by the first turns. The Allies have the edge in this game and should prevail, but yeah the first turns are tough (as they were in real life!) It takes some experience to make it safely through the first 3 turns, but then once you are in 1943 this is much better (with reinforcements and +1 drm in a/n battles) and roles are progressively switched. By 1944 their superiority becomes overwhelming and the +3 drm crushes the Japanese in a/n battles.
113 6/27/2021 10:23:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message pbm file loaded
112 6/27/2021 8:16:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message Another note: I flipped one of the CA on your crit but forgot the air unit is also defense 10 and part of the battle, so you can flip it instead if you want.
111 6/27/2021 3:33:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message I eliminated the marines, so win the battle again.
The fight at all cost is risky especially in the early game where the Japanese are stronger and the Allies are at their weakest!
Don't forget you have army reinforcements coming in next turn!
File up, bty for the PBM

Note: Amboisa is not a port, so you can move the Dutch CL.
110 6/27/2021 3:19:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

0
0


Message from Japanese:
and you got it!
ground battle
AP 15 (-2)
JP 18
109 6/27/2021 3:17:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

9


Message from Japanese:
a/n battle
With 68 factors, the Northampton is automatically sunk
The roll is for its reaction (need crit)
108 6/27/2021 3:08:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Draw Extra Strategy card
107 6/27/2021 3:08:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Event #4: 1 / JN25 Code Change
Intelligence: Intercept Draw one Strategy Card.

OC: 3 EC: 0

Message from Japanese:
I intercept again and draw a card
106 6/26/2021 2:33:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message file loaded
105 6/26/2021 2:32:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #62: 3 / Operation King II: A-Day - "I Have Returned" Invasion of Leyte
Activate: Any HQ. Logistic Value: 8 if SW Pac HQ, for all others: 6 Conditions: may only be played as an event if at least one battle hex is declared in a Philippine hex. Remove from play if used as an event.

OC: 3 EC: 5

Message from Allies:
Rinse and Repeat attack on Lae. Allies will take it or die trying.
104 6/26/2021 6:17:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message file up, bty
103 6/26/2021 6:10:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

5
4


Message from Japanese:
a/n battle
JP 12
AP 2
102 6/25/2021 10:03:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message No file for me. I will let you do the roll and pbm on your file.
101 6/25/2021 10:03:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

2


Message from Allies:
Will not play a reaction card. Roll for reaction 0-6.
100 6/25/2021 10:58:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Operations #79: 2 / Tinian Raid: Japanese Attack B29 Base
Activation: Any HQ Logistics Value: 1 Conditions: Any air or naval units may be activated, but only one brigade size ground unit may be activated. Bonus: If the Allied player has a B29 LRB unit within 8 hexes of Tokyo (3706) or in the China Air units box, the Japanese player rolls a die. On a die roll of: 0-4: Lose one B29 Air step* 5-9: No Effect *Japanese choice Remove from play if used as an event.

OC: 4 EC: 6

Message from Japanese:
file up, one battle to resolve.
Your HQs cannot react but you can roll to avoid surprise or play reaction cards of course.
99 6/24/2021 9:05:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Another disappointing turn for the allies. pbm file loaded.
98 6/24/2021 4:25:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message the Japanese gave a good fight and still hold the ground!
PBM file up
97 6/24/2021 4:21:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

2
8


Message from Japanese:
ground battle
AP 30 (-2)
JP 18
96 6/24/2021 4:20:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

3


Message from Japanese:
a/n battle
JP autokill
AP 2 (need crit)
95 6/24/2021 4:05:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Draw Extra Strategy card
94 6/24/2021 4:05:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Event #70: 1 / JN25 Code Change
Intelligence: Intercept Draw one Strategy Card.

OC: 3 EC: 0

Message from Japanese:
well this might be a very short stay for the Japanese troops in NG :)
I will use the card for a draw
93 6/23/2021 7:52:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message file loaded.
92 6/23/2021 7:48:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Strategy card as Event #50: 2 / Tornado Taskforce: Hollandia Invasion
Activate: Any HQ. Logistic Value: 4 if US SW Pac HQ, for all others: 3 Bonus, MacArthur's Navy: Applies only if SW PAC HQ is the activating HQ and US Inter-Service Rivalry is in effect. The allies may activate US Navy units OR US Army units and a maximum of one non-carrier US Naval unit.

OC: 2 EC: 4

Message from Allies:
4 activations instead.
91 6/23/2021 7:48:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Return Strategy card to hand #50: 2 / Tornado Taskforce: Hollandia Invasion

Message from Allies:
changed my mind. Will activate as event instead.
90 6/23/2021 7:45:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Strategy card as Operations #50: 2 / Tornado Taskforce: Hollandia Invasion
Activate: Any HQ. Logistic Value: 4 if US SW Pac HQ, for all others: 3 Bonus, MacArthur's Navy: Applies only if SW PAC HQ is the activating HQ and US Inter-Service Rivalry is in effect. The allies may activate US Navy units OR US Army units and a maximum of one non-carrier US Naval unit.

OC: 2 EC: 4

Message from Allies:
Attack on Lae. Playing as OP. Anzac + 3 activations
89 6/23/2021 1:05:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message They barely made it in Balikpapan!
File posted with my PBM.
One emergency move for you to do in the next file.
88 6/23/2021 1:01:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

2


Message from Japanese:
battle C
JP 9 (+1)
87 6/23/2021 12:59:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 2

1
3


Message from Japanese:
battle B a/n
JP 20
AP 4
86 6/23/2021 12:58:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message The Bangka hex consists of the land part and the small island, so you can move by land from Teloek. If Mark Herman wanted us to use an ASP, he would have greyed out the land part as it was done for the Biak hex for instance (there it is only the island that can be captured thus requiring naval movement).
I assume you don't play any card so I will resolve the battles now.
85 6/22/2021 9:23:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

7


Message from Allies:
Intercept 0-7. It appeared that you used 2 ASPs, one for Balikpapan and one for Bangka. If that's correct, then you can fix on your next file.
84 6/22/2021 3:31:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Play Strategy card as Event #50: 3 / Ha-Go: Burma Offensive
Activation: South or South Seas HQs only. Logistic Value: 6 Conditions: Only air and ground units may be activated.

OC: 5 EC: 7

Message from Japanese:
file posted
3 battles to resolve, you can roll for intel but no HQ can react
83 6/21/2021 10:55:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Wow. That's good to know. If I would have know that I most likely wouldn't have put it into the FOC slot. So, my mistake was both good and bad at the same time. lol. File loaded. No battles.
82 6/21/2021 2:23:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message Whenever a card refers to Japanese islands, it means the Japanese *home* islands (13.9). So you cannot get the bonus in this situation.
I was indeed hoping to take Port Moresby before you get a chance to reinforce. Well, as a minor consolation I forced you to play the FOC :)
81 6/21/2021 9:31:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Play Future Offensive card as Event #72: 2 / Halsey: Carrier Raids on Japan
Activate: Any HQ. Logistic Value: 8 if US Central Pac HQ, for all others: 4. Bonus: If during the offensive a US carrier naval unit declares a battle in a Japanese Island hex, unless the Japanese immediately play a weather card, the Allies randomly remove one card from the Japanese hand.

OC: 2 EC: 4

Message from Allies:
Ports Moresby is looking a little to easy for the taking so I will play this card for the event. Not about the carrier part. Would taking over a base in non ZOI island hex like Kusaie qualify? How about a island hex in a Zoi like bougansville? Thanks
80 6/20/2021 11:50:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message I'm not home at the moment, so I'd like to see what you did with your replacements, etc. before I decide. I will have to do so later, but before the end of the day. If I choose to make my move, I will just do it, otherwise I will send you a message saying you can go ahead and take your turn.
79 6/20/2021 11:43:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message Gosh, I'd better check the rules! You're absolutely right, you can play your FOQ as event card. Do you want to do so?
78 6/20/2021 11:35:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Hold. I have a card in the future offensive and less cards then you, so I can premptively go first right? I may want to do depending on how the board looks. I think you can only upgrade the yamamoto so that shouldn't change anything
77 6/20/2021 10:50:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message I forgot to take my naval step, I will adjust in the next file if you don't mind.
76 6/20/2021 10:48:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message I go first since I have 7 cards in my hand (to your 6).
75 6/20/2021 10:47:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Draw Strategy cards Drew 7 cards.

74 6/20/2021 10:46:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Change Japanese Divisions Available in China From 11 to 10
73 6/20/2021 10:39:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Die roll request Request: 10-sided die x 1

8


Message from Japanese:
s/m warfare (+1)
72 6/20/2021 10:39:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message Note the 5AF and 5AF LRB count as a single unit for stacking purpose (see 8.34).
I go ahead with my reinforcements now.
71 6/20/2021 10:08:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Doh. It was actually two overstacked. Moved them back and loaded a new file. Should be good now.
70 6/20/2021 3:18:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message You are now overstacked in Townsville, do you want to move the 7AF LRB to Gili Gili?
Sorry about ASP, I mixed it up with another game! You are right of course, as you played Edwin booth last turn!
69 6/19/2021 10:50:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Corrected File uploaded. I adjusted the placement of my 1-7 HQ due to that rule. Also, the AP starts with 1 ASP in turn 2. I played a card in turn 2 to make it 2ASP. Then it increased to 3ASP on turn 3, so the 3 ASP in my most recent file should be correct.
68 6/19/2021 2:16:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message hi Dave,
reinforcements must be stacked with a newly placed HQ, or must be in supply from an HQ already on the map. So 5AF and 7AF LRB should be repositioned.
Note I had already adjusted your ASP level (it is 1 in Turn 2).
67 6/19/2021 11:58:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message File reloaded
66 6/18/2021 1:07:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Japanese Message indeed I don't see the file.
you got some pretty bad luck with those rolls!
65 6/18/2021 10:46:00 AM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message looking in the drop box file from work, I don't see my file. Not sure what I did with it. I will have to find it and reload when I get home tonight. Sorry about that.
64 6/17/2021 10:33:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message file loaded
63 6/17/2021 10:25:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Draw Strategy cards Drew 6 cards.

62 6/17/2021 9:52:00 PM May-Aug 1942 Allies Message Well that stinks

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