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265 9/20/2021 1:57:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Of course, Perfidious Albion (which took no real loses and secured Adm for the remainder of the game) would threaten the leader in the game! Look at whom is driving the Cooalition!
264 9/20/2021 1:22:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message London will climb back up onto the soapbox to say this again:
I think of Britain as the de facto leader of the Coalition, in the sense that it's a little bit more her responsibility than Austria and Russia's to encourage cooperation to keep the Coalition together. And if a nation takes an action that guarantees an Imperial victory, it's a little bit more Britain's responsibility to punish that nation. Other than that, Yes I am playing to win and I believe everyone should be playing to win.
263 9/20/2021 12:51:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message You had my offer to spend for you. France would certainly send troops to help regain righteous Prussian territory from the Austrian and Russian oppressors.
262 9/20/2021 12:38:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Prussia will not spend. I want more than two cards, and would feel guilty if I ended things on turn 1.

I presume then, that there is no need for France to spend, so we play on.

On to the camp switch phase!

Austria - your first decision. Iíll entertain offers from all sides.
261 9/20/2021 12:36:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message London will not forget Vienna's generous play this past year.
260 9/20/2021 12:35:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Russia will make it official that she is not burning a card.
259 9/20/2021 11:44:00 AM 1805-1806 Austria Message Austria will not spend.

I think I have almost entirely played for the team this turn and not myself anyway
258 9/20/2021 9:34:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message After what is probably the worst opening French turn I have ever experienced, France will not be spending against Prussia. With certain assurances, I could even be persuaded to spend for.
257 9/20/2021 6:11:00 AM 1805-1806 Prussia Message So, Britain will spend, Russia will (presumably) not spend. I need to know Austria's position before I announce.
256 9/19/2021 6:40:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Not only that but --- after that magical last British impulse --- my board position is better than my +2 Points would suggest. Britain will spend a card draw to prevent a non-Coalition victory.
255 9/19/2021 6:31:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Psychologically it feels different to be losing to Prussia as opposed to losing to France, even though losing is still losing and having the game end on Turn 1 just means it's over and usually isn't all that fun (except for the winner) as compared to a longer exciting game that is often about equally thrilling even if you don't win.

At the very least, since Prussia isn't our direct enemy, the Coalition going down -2 in card count to France just to guarantee a lock out of Prussia with an '8' would seem foolhardy. There's certainly an argument for just leaving it alone and having all 3 of us refuse to burn.

However, I think the highest percentage play is to have one person turn it to a '7'. Prussia may not even wish to drop to a 2 card hand to turn it back to a '6', and if they do, there is strong incentive for France to burn, since even after their poor 1st turn, I believe they are the most likely side to win the game and thus stand to lose the most by having the game be over.

And while I'm much less likely to nudge a British player to burn who is clearly willing to consistently give away Parliament and make the team play, the facts do remain that in an average game Britain wins twice as often as Russia and Austria do - and this is hardly an average game for them as they went through the first turn without losing Naples or Lisbon and have reduced the Franco--Spanish-Danish fleet to 1 total squadron. Therefore I believe it is the most reasonable move for Britain to burn a card.

To avoid a long game-halting back-and-forth discussion I'll leave it at that. If others wish to respond and agree or disagree, of course go ahead.
254 9/19/2021 6:23:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message FRANCE:
-1 keys (-Rome)
+1 Resource
+2 pacts (Spain, Danes)
TOTAL +2

BRITAIN:
+1 Resource
+1 pact (Sweden)
TOTAL +2

AUSTRIA:
+1 Resource
TOTAL +1

RUSSIA:
+1 Resource
TOTAL +1

PRUSSIA:
+1 key (+Rome)
+1 Resource
+1 pact (Turks)
TOTAL +3
253 9/19/2021 6:21:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Attrition and Naval Build Phase:
Marseilles and Sussex fleets flip to "Refit" status. I don't see any space where attrition applies.

Conquest Phase:
Nobody can be conquered.

Peace Phase is next:
Don't believe any cards affected the roll so we have Continued War on 1-5, Peace on 6, with Britain up first to decide. I'll do VP count in a moment.
252 9/19/2021 4:45:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message The die roller really has it in for the French!!!

Build 2 in Milan (N,M/11)

End of turn
251 9/19/2021 2:45:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Message I think that vindicates our decision to stay

French lose 3 n Napp, Mass +9

Aus lose nothing
250 9/19/2021 2:44:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10

3
2
6
3
3
6
1
6
2
3


Message from Austria:
Chas
249 9/19/2021 2:44:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 14

4
4
4
4
2
1
4
4
5
1
2
3
3
2


Message from Austria:
Nappy
248 9/19/2021 2:40:00 PM 1805-1806 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #98: 5 / War Without End
Gain CPs equal to a die roll. Void Armistice event if in play AND subtract 1 from this Turn's Peace die roll. All nations draw one card in Order of Movement.

Message from France:
Nap/8 Milan to Venice (1/5)
Evade? If not, roll it.
247 9/18/2021 2:47:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Prussia will not spend their reserve, has no response. Go France
246 9/18/2021 1:37:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message I do need to know the Prussian response before making the French move.
245 9/18/2021 1:35:00 PM 1805-1806 France Spain: Play Strategy card as Operations #910: 5 / Peninusula Campaign
Roll a die. If your roll greater than the number of Enemy Forces in Spain, Lisbon, Oporto, and Gibraltar, draw two cards. You must play one of them. Otherwise, draw a card which you may play or keep. Not playable in 1805. RESERVE

Message from France:
Cas/3 to Mad
Cav Val to Bar
1 in Mad (Cas/6)

I had to choose between having a dispersed fleet stuck with the inability to preempt (for the remainder of the game) and freeing myself from those shackles and denying Britain of 2 cards.
244 9/18/2021 12:39:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Or presuming no reserve spending from Prussia, Spain could probably go ahead and go.
243 9/18/2021 11:27:00 AM 1805-1806 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Operations #45: 4 / Dysentery
All Forces of one side in a battle space suffer Attrition before a declared battle. Any losses inflicted count as battle losses in the upcoming battle.

Message from Russia:
1 - Kutuzov/6 Moravia -> Prague, joining 1-AUS unit.
1.5 - Frigate Black Sea -> Aegean
3 - SQ/Frigate -> Ionian -> Tyrhennian -> Western Med
4 - RG 1 to Grodno (now Baggy/5) (RG now just Benny)

No plus action. Over to Prussia.
242 9/18/2021 11:22:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message Move 1 SQ from N.Sea (lvng 1) to MAO.
Thanks.
241 9/18/2021 10:57:00 AM 1805-1806 Austria Message Prague is good
240 9/18/2021 10:23:00 AM 1805-1806 Russia Message I could at least move to Prague on my turn if not Linz; what does Austria think?

Britain are you using any of the 3 maneuvers?
239 9/18/2021 9:18:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message Also, now that Armistice has expired it seems like it would be good if Kutuzov and Ferdinand were in Linz?
238 9/18/2021 8:03:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message Thanks for the Relief Convoy, Gareth!
Regarding Parliament next turn, at the moment you would indeed be at the top of the list, but please note that is not a guarantee because in time of dire need I lean slightly more towards "Who needs Parliament?", as opposed to "Who deserves Parliament?". In fact, I hope the entire Coalition feels the same way.
237 9/18/2021 7:46:00 AM 1805-1806 Austria Message Armistice is over
236 9/18/2021 7:46:00 AM 1805-1806 Austria Message Russia
235 9/18/2021 7:46:00 AM 1805-1806 Austria Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6


Message from Austria:
Arm
234 9/18/2021 7:46:00 AM 1805-1806 Austria Austria: Play Strategy card as Event #107: 3 / Relief Convoy
A nation of your choice may use three naval maneuvers now. Double the number of dice of a Fortress Port as long as a friendly Squadron controls that Zone. Play in response to a siege resolution only adds dice, not changes them. Retain faceup beneath the controlling Squadron and discard when the conditions are no longer met.

Message from Austria:
Play this on Lisbon

I'm sure Parilment will be equally happy with us next turn
233 9/16/2021 10:54:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Wow. I guess losing Continental System was worth it after all...
232 9/16/2021 10:14:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message No roll on Armistice since that was a Reserve.
231 9/16/2021 10:12:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Well that worked way way better than I had any right to expect.
6: lvng 2 SQs behind in N.Sea, move 1 SQ to Skagerrak
Over to Austria.
230 9/16/2021 10:09:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
4


Message from Britain:
France
229 9/16/2021 10:08:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 10

2
2
2
2
3
3
3
1
6
5


Message from Britain:
Britain
228 9/16/2021 10:02:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Roll
227 9/16/2021 10:02:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
6


Message from France:
Evade
226 9/16/2021 9:53:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message I mean, Evade?
225 9/16/2021 9:49:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Intercept?
224 9/16/2021 9:49:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4


Message from Britain:
5: lvng 1 SQ in Channel, move 3 SQs to N.Sea
I assume no intercept
5.5: Patrol. Need a 7
223 9/16/2021 9:45:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
5


Message from Britain:
Dane
222 9/16/2021 9:45:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 13

4
2
2
6
6
6
2
5
6
1
6
1
1


Message from Britain:
Brits
221 9/16/2021 9:14:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Roll
220 9/16/2021 9:13:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message I canít buy a die roll
219 9/16/2021 9:13:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
1


Message from France:
Evade
218 9/16/2021 9:02:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Evade?
217 9/16/2021 9:02:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5


Message from Britain:
3.5: all 5 SQ's to NAO
4: Lvng 1 SQ in NAO, move 4 SQ's to Eng Channel
I assume the Danes don't intercept.
4.5: Patrol. Need a 7

216 9/16/2021 8:55:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Bad French powder again.
215 9/16/2021 8:54:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

3
2
2
2
1
1


Message from Britain:
French:
214 9/16/2021 8:53:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 16

6
2
3
1
5
3
6
3
3
4
4
6
5
2
1
2


Message from Britain:
Brits
213 9/16/2021 8:53:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
1


Message from Britain:
Fr evades. Need an 8
212 9/16/2021 8:52:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
6


Message from Britain:
Combine with the Sq that was already there, n 5 SQs.
3: patrol. Need a 7
211 9/16/2021 8:41:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message No intercept
If found, evade
No cards in the event of a battle
210 9/16/2021 8:24:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Operations #903: 6 / Admiralty
Britain draws two cards if its Fleets control six Zones at the start of its Impulse. Voided by Bey of Algiers or if Britain is a Subject Neutral. RESERVE

Message from Britain:
I agree with Bruce's last four messages except I count 7 Br SQ's plus 1 building SQ.
0.5: SQ from North Sea to NAO, now 2 SQ's
1: SQ from Eng Channel to NAO, now 3 SQ's
1.5 and 2: 3 SQ from NAO to Biscay to Galicia, n 4 SQ's.
2.5: 4 SQ's from Galicia to MAO.
Intercept?
209 9/16/2021 5:02:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message 6 plus 1 building
208 9/16/2021 4:46:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Never mind - 3 in the force pool, 7 built and functioning, 1 under build marker.
207 9/16/2021 4:45:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message So 4 BR squadrons in force pool then? (6 on the map functioning, 1 being built in Sussex)
206 9/16/2021 4:43:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message 1 Br in SAO
205 9/16/2021 4:40:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Brit in BoB had to go to nearest port (Galicia) after loosing battle
Only 1 Br in MAO
1 Br in NAO
204 9/16/2021 4:31:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Ok so what does it look like now for fleets?

Baltic:
2 RUS, 1 SW

North Sea:
1 FR, 1 BR

Channel:
1 BR, 1 DANE

Biscay:
1 BR

Mid Atl:
3 FR, 3 BR

West Med:
1 BR

Aegean:
1 RUS

Black:
1 OTT, 1 RUS(Frigate)

Does that look correct?

203 9/16/2021 12:59:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Now the Continental nonsense is gone
202 9/16/2021 12:58:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
2


Message from France:
As long as Iím here..:
Last search then over to the Brits
201 9/16/2021 12:12:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Britain: Play Strategy card as Event #41: 2 / Fog of War
Void a naval interception (even after failing a subsequent evasion attempt). Modify all further intercept attempts by -2 for the rest of this Impulse.

Message from Britain:
I said, evade!
200 9/16/2021 12:12:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
1


Message from Britain:
Evade
199 9/16/2021 9:48:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Zeroed in!
Evade?
198 9/16/2021 9:47:00 AM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
6


Message from France:
Instead of returning to base, search MAO (3.5)
197 9/16/2021 7:19:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message Bruce,
I'll ask you to keep that Armistice roll, but regarding your CP's you may want to reconsider --- please note ending Continental System Fails has a timing requirement: "Discard when the Coalition fails to control 7 Zones *at the end of any Impulse.*"
196 9/15/2021 11:28:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4


Message from France:
Armistice
195 9/15/2021 11:26:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message 2.5 Sqd Bor to BoB
3.0 3Sqds BoB to MAO
Intercept?
I believe that ends that Continental nonsense! If I am intercepted, fight.
If not intercepted and correct on sea zones, fleet uses 1.0 to return to Brest.
194 9/15/2021 9:59:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Missed. I need to mull over the options for the remains of the French move.
193 9/15/2021 9:58:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
3


Message from France:
Last Dane search
192 9/15/2021 9:57:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from France:
Fr BoB
191 9/15/2021 9:46:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message I accidentally overwrote my Vassal save file. If anyone is using Vassal and could email me their save file, I would greatly appreciate.
190 9/15/2021 9:43:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message No intercept the Danish squadron in the English channel.
And, Daniel is correct that you get one more die on the second day in Biscay.
189 9/15/2021 9:42:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message And doesn't France get an extra die in R2 of the battle? The '5' only disrupts one die, not one Squadron, right?
188 9/15/2021 9:40:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Waiting to see if intercepted
187 9/15/2021 9:38:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

1
4
1


Message from France:
Br
186 9/15/2021 9:38:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
2


Message from France:
Day 2 Fr
185 9/15/2021 9:38:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message Danes only used 3 of their 4 maneuvers and passed on the 4th one?
184 9/15/2021 9:36:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 6

3
5
2
2
4
4


Message from France:
Brits
183 9/15/2021 9:36:00 PM 1805-1806 France Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

3
6
4
1


Message from France:
French in BoB
182 9/15/2021 9:35:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message If found, roll.
181 9/15/2021 9:35:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message Guess who should read all the FAQ!!
On to the Eng Ch
Intercept?
180 9/15/2021 8:04:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Bruce, make sure you read the FAQ section on Gallant Danes, page 8 of 16.
Assuming that doesn't change your mind, no intercept in North Sea.
179 9/15/2021 6:55:00 PM 1805-1806 France Denmark: Play Strategy card as Event #908: 4 / Gallant Danes
Danish Fleets have an intercept/evade level of 8, throw three Battle dice per Squadron, and may void one "6" in battle during this Impulse. The Danes may use four Maneuvers this Impulse even if Inactive. OR Draw a card. RESERVE

Message from France:
Danes to Ska-NSea
intercept?
178 9/15/2021 3:20:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Save your cards, comrade. Those Frenchies' broadsides can't hit the broad side of a barn!
177 9/15/2021 2:56:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Message No cards from me either.
176 9/15/2021 1:40:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Message Found ya
If battle, I have no cards.
175 9/15/2021 1:40:00 PM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
4


Message from Britain:
Intercept:
174 9/15/2021 1:30:00 PM 1805-1806 France Message 2.0 2sqds Brest to BoB
Intercept?
173 9/15/2021 11:54:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Message Failed.
172 9/15/2021 11:48:00 AM 1805-1806 Britain Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
1


Message from Britain:
Intercept. Need a 6
171 9/15/2021 11:40:00 AM 1805-1806 France France: Play Strategy card as Operations #27: 4 / Outflanked
Side of your choice gains one battle die. All played battle cards in this round of battle are voided and discarded. Must be played prior to combat resolution.

Message from France:
1.0 Cav Rot to Bru
1.5 Sqd Rot to North Sea
intercept?
170 9/15/2021 11:36:00 AM 1805-1806 France Message Spain and Denmark pass
169 9/14/2021 5:29:00 PM 1805-1806 Prussia Message Prussia declines to spend the resource, Turks are done. Spain may go or pass.
168 9/14/2021 4:46:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1


Message from Russia:
No plus play, rolling to see what the politicians think of the Armistice
167 9/14/2021 4:46:00 PM 1805-1806 Russia Russia: Play Strategy card as Operations #54: 5 / Fouche
France draws a random card from any nation. Discard out of game if used as an Event after Napoleon Abdicates or Turn 3 - whichever occurs first.

Message from Russia:
1: Bagration/1 Borisov->Grodno
2: 1 unit Vilna -> Grodno
3: RG 1 unit to Grodno
4-5: build 1 unit Grodno

Vilna now Konstantin
Grodno now Baggy/4
RG now Benny/1
166 9/14/2021 4:26:00 PM 1805-1806 Austria Message Russia

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