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| Entry # | Time | Turn | Player | Title | Entry |
| 758 | 7/3/2025 12:18:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Play Strategy card as Event |
#55: 3 / Messenger Intercepted (Both) Draw one Strategy Card from your opponent's hand and add it to your own. Message from Carthage: Carthage 2nd Card: Event I believe that was your best opener but there are other Cards that may tip the balance so I will play this now. |
| 757 | 7/3/2025 12:15:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Message |
Africanus arrives hasty and out of breath. Actually the Siege on Syracuse is -1 (Marcellus has +1 with a Campaign which would negate) the same as Rome and Carthage, so the Result is 0 and -1 (+3 remaining). It should be noted on the Major City counter and the Siege Table Notes. On my Paper Map a Siege Point would be shown in Green, as Rome is Red and Carthage is Blue. It was a while ago during Subjugation that you tried to figure it out on Vassal. |
| 756 | 7/3/2025 12:03:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Message |
Well, that could have gone better. Africanus and his men have admittedly have been asked to endure a lot recently. Place 1 Siege Point marker (can you remind me again how to generate that?). And Africanus loses 1 CU, reducing his army to 3 CUs. |
| 755 | 7/2/2025 11:54:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 3 2 Message from Rome: Siege assault upon Syracuse: |
| 754 | 7/2/2025 12:09:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Message |
Bad Weeather is in the Discards so you can roll for the Siege Our Battle of Heraclea would be well-remembered historically as the total destruction of Hannibal, all for want of a Horse/Die Roll |
| 753 | 7/2/2025 12:01:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Play Strategy card as Event |
#63: 3 / Force March (any general) (Both) Move any General up to six spaces. Message from Rome: I'll play this as an Event and use it to activate Scipio Africanus, who will move with his 4 CUs from the charnel house at Heraclea down the coast road through Crotone (MP 1) to Rhegium (MP 2) and then by boats across the straits to Messana (MPs 3-4) and then down Sicily's eastern coast road past Mount Etna to Syracuse (MP 5), which he will place under siege. Unless you have some means of stymieing my operation, Africanus will launch a siege attack against Syracuse. |
| 752 | 7/1/2025 11:41:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Message |
It's fine for you to have proceeded first. BTW, as you've probably noticed from the game logs, one of my quirks (as an ancient history buff) is that I like to try and identify on Google Earth where our battlefield would have been had it occurred in real life. It turned out to be pretty easy to identify where Heraclea was historically, and from there to hypothesize where any battle near it between two major armies -- a larger one on the offense, and a somewhat smaller one on defense -- would likely have occurred. I'll send you the image by email. |
| 751 | 7/1/2025 | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#47: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Lucania) (Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if LUCANIA is Roman controlled. Message from Carthage: Carthage 1st Card: PCs Tarraco ID Aleria CS Nuoro CS |
| 750 | 6/30/2025 11:58:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Message |
Yes New Carthage OR: Hasdrubal +Mago +7 Carthage CC: Gisgo +3 Icosium WN: Hanno +2 Lilybaeum SI: 1 alone Emporiae MA: TLongus +7 Beneventum: Varro +Marcellus +10 Heraclea: Africanus +4 Ilerda ID: 1 alone Agrigentum SI: 1 alone I believe you're foregoing the Option to go 1st with a Campaign, so I will go 1st. If not we can correct. |
| 749 | 6/30/2025 11:43:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Message |
If we're in agreement on that, then the only question is whether you wish to go first. |
| 748 | 6/30/2025 11:33:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Message |
As for the issue of whether there were 2 CUs previously in Carthage, as opposed to New Carthage, there weren't. I checked images of the game from the start of Turn 5 and from Game 6 following the Battle of Beneventum, and those 2 CUs were always in New Carthage. So, you should have 7 CUs at New Carthage with Hasdrubal and Mago and 3 CUs with Gisgo at Carthage, I believe. |
| 747 | 6/30/2025 11:30:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Message |
You're right about my putting 3 CUs in Rome. So those three will go back to Beneventum as originally contemplated, and then Varro will go with the, This, there will be 10 Roman CUs in Beneventum, with Varro and Proconsul Marcellus there. |
| 746 | 6/29/2025 3:29:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Message |
I am not exactly certain about the 2 left in Carthage or New Carthage. My map showed Carthage while my catch Re-Cap showed New Carthage. If your map shows New Carthage I'll accept that. When I play I normally leave something behind in Carthage as a Siege speed Bump, but Dave may not have. |
| 745 | 6/29/2025 3:24:00 PM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Message |
Oh I see the error now. I had 2 in Carthage not New Carthage so once again: Carthaginian Reinforcements should read: +3 (2 in Spain and 1 anywhere) New Carthage OR: Hasdrubal +Mago +7 +1 (Africa) Carthage CC: Gisgo +5 |
| 744 | 6/29/2025 9:14:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Draw Strategy cards |
9 cards drawn. |
| 743 | 6/29/2025 9:14:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Message |
...or 3 elsewhere with or without Varro |
| 742 | 6/29/2025 9:11:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Carthage | Message |
I forgot about the 2 already in New Carthage Carthaginian Reinforcements should read: +3 (2 in Spain and 1 anywhere) New Carthage OR: Hasdrubal +Mago +9 +1 (Africa) Carthage CC: Gisgo +3 For Roman Reinforcements you have 3 in Rome which means Consul Varro cannot be placed there [6.5] You can adjust with 5 in Rome or place Varro elsewhere |
| 741 | 6/29/2025 12:37:00 AM | 209-207 BC | Rome | Draw Strategy cards |
9 cards drawn. |
| 740 | 6/29/2025 12:37:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | End Turn | |
| 739 | 6/29/2025 12:37:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
But first: the formal end of Turn 6, and the dawn of Turn 7 (209-207 B.C.). |
| 738 | 6/29/2025 12:27:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Longus and Varro. Jeez, I would have been fine with letting Varro continue to rest on his laurels from subjugating the Boii. Longus goes to Emporiae, and Varro to Rome. |
| 737 | 6/29/2025 12:22:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Die roll request |
Request: 7-sided die x 2 6 1 Message from Rome: Next, Roman consular elections. First, I will retain Marcellus as my second proconsul. Nero and Fabius are removed. And the tribes proceed to vote in the Campus Martius: 7 - Gaius Flaminius 6 - Titus Longus 5 - Fabius Maximus 4 - Gaius Nero 3 - Aemilius Paulus 2 - Publius Scipio 1 - Terrentius Varro |
| 736 | 6/29/2025 12:14:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Correction: Let's place those 3 CUs in Rome, not Beneventum. |
| 735 | 6/29/2025 12:08:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Roman reinforcements: - 3 CUs at Beneventum - 2 CUs at Emporiae |
| 734 | 6/28/2025 11:33:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
With regard to your reinforcements post (# 731) you said: +3 New Carthage and then +1 Carthage -- but I think you meant the opposite: +1 New Carthage and then +3 Carthage, as your actual totals there reflect. |
| 733 | 6/28/2025 11:29:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Beginning with your Post 730, the only mistakes I see are that: - Mago had +6 CUs in New Carthage, not +4 -- I showed 2 CUs as being there previously, and you brought 4 CUs back from Italy (3 with Mago, 1 from Croton); and - I didn't have 1 CU in Tarraco after my last move. I have 1 CU in Ilerda and the 5 CUs in Emporiae. Also, I showed Nice as uncontrolled. So, subtracting that 1 CU, I show 17 Roman CUs versus 9 Carthaginian CUs. |
| 732 | 6/28/2025 9:31:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Checking again Nice may not be controlled and MA(0,2). I will do a Map refresh. |
| 731 | 6/28/2025 9:27:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Carthaginian Reinforcements: +3 New Carthage OR: Hasdrubal +Mago +7 +1 Carthage CC: Gisgo +3 |
| 730 | 6/28/2025 9:21:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Re-Cap Turn 6 (211-210 BC) Syracuse Alliance in Effect No Attrition or Isolation Key: Campania: CM Carthaginia: CA Carthage City: CC PCs: (Carthage, Rome) Victory Provinces: -Carthage has BA(3,0) CE(3,0) OR(3,0) ID(4,1) WN(3,0) EN(3,0) CA(4,0) CC(1,0) SY(1,0) -Rome has 9 CS(0,3) SI(1,4) GC(0,4) ET(0,4) SA(0,5) LA(0,1) CM(0,2) AP(0,4) LU(2,3) Non-Victory Provinces: -Rome has 1: MA(0,3) [Emporiae, Massilia and Nice?) -3 are Uncontrolled: BI(0,0) GT(0,0) LI(0,0) -Carthage has 9 CUs: New Carthage: Mago +4 Icosium WN: Hanno +2 Lilybaeum SI: 1 alone -Rome has 18 CUs: Ilerda ID: 1 alone Emporiae MA Nero +5 Tarraco ID: 1 alone Beneventum AP: Fabius +Marcellus 7 Heraclea LU: Africanus +4 Agrigentium SI: 1 alone Victory Check: 9-9, holding on with Syracuse for now. Hope all is correct and I'll proceed to Carthaginian Reinforcements. |
| 729 | 6/28/2025 9:06:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
-3, +4 remain. Unsanitary conditions prevailed. |
| 728 | 6/28/2025 9:04:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Carthage: Epidemic +7 Table |
| 727 | 6/28/2025 9:04:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#51: 2 / Epidemic (Both) One opposing Army must roll on the Attrition Table. Message from Carthage: Carthage 8th (and last) Card: Event I'll roll for Africanus +7 in Heraclea LU and then proceed to a Re-Cap |
| 726 | 6/28/2025 12:07:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#25: 2 / Capua Sides with Carthage (Carthage) If the Carthage controls 3 or more Italian provinces Capua is converted to Carthaginian control and all Roman CUs inside are eliminated. Message from Rome: I'll use this to flip Heraclea and Ilerda from Carthaginian to Roman control. |
| 725 | 6/28/2025 12:07:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Hmmm ... "Mutin's Numidians." Is this where the word "mutiny" comes from? |
| 724 | 6/27/2025 6:19:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Strategy card as Event |
#22: 1 / Mutin's Numidians (Carthage) Place one Carthaginian CU and a PC in any non-walled city space in Sicilia that contains no Roman CUs. If the space contains a Roman PC the PC is simply flipped. Message from Carthage: Carthage 7th Card: Event +1 and flip Lilybaeum SI |
| 723 | 6/27/2025 12:51:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Thanks for that correction. I'm a little rusty after the "delay of game." Nero + 5 CUs move to Tarraco; pick up 1 CU; return to Ilerda; drops off 1 CU; then moves to Emporiae with 5 CUs. |
| 722 | 6/26/2025 12:10:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Marcellus is Proconsul and Nero is a Consul and must move with his full 5. You do have a lone CU in Tarraco who could be picked up and dropped off. |
| 721 | 6/25/2025 10:22:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#29: 2 / Carthaginian Naval Victory (Carthage) For the rest of the year a -1 die roll modifier for naval movement applies, and Roman Naval Movement is limited to Minor or Major Campaign Strategy Cards. Message from Rome: Activate Nero in Ilerda. He leaves 1 CU behind there and moves with the other 4 CUs to Emporiae. |
| 720 | 6/25/2025 1:07:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Somehow Gisgo was forgotten and trampled in the Rout. I'm sure he'll turn up somewhere. |
| 719 | 6/25/2025 12:52:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 5 Message from Carthage: Sail -4 |
| 718 | 6/25/2025 12:51:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#30: 3 / Carthaginian Siege Train (Carthage) Place the Siege Train Marker with any Carthaginian General. A General with the Siege Train ignores the -1 die roll modifier applied against Carthaginian sieges. Message from Carthage: Mago +3 to Croton pick up 1 sail to New Carthage -4 Another 6 would be quite cruel again. |
| 717 | 6/25/2025 12:46:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Remove Acci BA Saleria OR Laminium OR Salmantica CE Tarraco ID Baleares BI Zuccabar WN Thabraca CA I believe it is now Carthage's 6th Card play |
| 716 | 6/25/2025 12:39:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
To say that was a nail-biter is putting it mildly. I was totally on pins and needles that you were going to have the last Reserve card and then use it to play a DE, which I would have had no response for. When I saw my Battle Cards, I felt that they were one of the best, if not the best, hands I had drawn in this game. I had a very good distribution across the battle card types, with the single exception of the DE cards -- which came to within a razor's edge of proving fatal. I had 3 FA's and 3 FL's -- good, but not what you'd start with when you were also holding 5 FR's. I think it's incredible that you had only 1 FA and 0 FLs! I've certainly never seen totals that low for those cards in any other battle in HRC that I can recall. And then your lamentable luck with high die rolls continued (indeed, culminated) by getting a 6/6 on the Attrition and Retreat rolls! I can honestly say I feel your pain, having had some similar bad breaks earlier in the game -- notably in my African campaign. HRC really does generate epic and memorable game play. |
| 715 | 6/25/2025 12:28:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Worst case. Africanus loses 3, +7 Remaining. But Hannibal +7 is all lost. (History will blame Mago) I believe that means 8 PCs are to be lost. I'll have to see what provinces can be saved. |
| 714 | 6/25/2025 12:20:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 6 6 Message from Carthage: I had 1 Frontal and my last hope was to Match and play the last Reserve as DE. The Flank Right Attack gave me an unusual chance since I had no Flank Lefts. 1st Die: 10 Round Attrition 2nd die: Retreat |
| 713 | 6/25/2025 12:05:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#14 Flank Left Message from Rome: Round 10: |
| 712 | 6/24/2025 11:51:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
3 Fails... |
| 711 | 6/24/2025 11:50:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 5 Message from Carthage: Counter Round 9 Success 1-4 |
| 710 | 6/24/2025 11:49:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#47 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage: Round 9 Match |
| 709 | 6/24/2025 11:43:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#19 Flank Left Message from Rome: Round 9: |
| 708 | 6/24/2025 11:19:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#46 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome: Round 8: Matched. |
| 707 | 6/24/2025 12:42:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: Attack Round 8 |
| 706 | 6/24/2025 12:42:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 1 Message from Carthage: Counter Round 7 Need 1-4... |
| 705 | 6/24/2025 12:41:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#45 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage: Match Round 7 |
| 704 | 6/24/2025 12:27:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#26 Flank Right Message from Rome: Round 7: |
| 703 | 6/24/2025 12:27:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome: Round 6: Match. |
| 702 | 6/23/2025 6:28:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: Attack Round 6 |
| 701 | 6/23/2025 6:28:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 4 Message from Carthage: Counter Round 5 |
| 700 | 6/23/2025 6:27:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#32 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage: Match Round 5 as Flank Right |
| 699 | 6/23/2025 5:36:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#30 Flank Right Message from Rome: Round 5: |
| 698 | 6/23/2025 1:26:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Carthage: Counter Round 4 |
| 697 | 6/23/2025 1:25:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#27 Flank Right Message from Carthage: Match Round 4 |
| 696 | 6/23/2025 12:08:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#25 Flank Right Message from Rome: Round 4: |
| 695 | 6/23/2025 12:07:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: Match. |
| 694 | 6/22/2025 11:27:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: Attack Round 3 |
| 693 | 6/22/2025 11:11:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: Attack Round 3 |
| 692 | 6/22/2025 11:11:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 1 Message from Carthage: Counter Round 2 |
| 691 | 6/22/2025 11:10:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#23 Flank Right Message from Carthage: Match Round 2 |
| 690 | 6/22/2025 9:54:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#29 Flank Right Message from Rome: You're fast! Round 2: |
| 689 | 6/22/2025 5:46:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Carthage: Counter Round 1 |
| 688 | 6/22/2025 5:46:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Play Battle card |
#24 Flank Right Message from Carthage: Match Round 1 |
| 687 | 6/22/2025 5:22:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Play Battle card |
#22 Flank Right Message from Rome: Round 1: |
| 686 | 6/21/2025 7:38:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
NO Battle Card. You have Round 1. |
| 685 | 6/21/2025 7:34:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Battle Hands dealt |
Battle 13 Carthage: 12 cards Rome: 16 cards |
| 684 | 6/21/2025 7:33:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Corrections good. I will deal the Battle Cards. |
| 683 | 6/21/2025 1:06:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
And I will not play a Battle Card. |
| 682 | 6/21/2025 1:02:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
My map indicates the following: Eastern Numidia (EN) = 3,0, not 4,0; Cirta and Thubursicu are both uncontrolled (Cirta in Post 354 and Thubursicu in Post 282). Carthaginia (CA) = 4,0, not 6,0; Zama and Thapsus are uncontrolled (Zama in Post 282 and Thapsus in Post 354). Apulia (AP) = 0,4, not 0,5; Apri is uncontrolled (removed in Post 59). Masilia (MA) = 0,2, not 0.3; Narbo, Nemausus, and Nice are all uncontrolled (Posts 238, 497, and 658 respectively). Thus, to your list of uncontrolled spaces, add Zama in Carthaginia and Nemausus in Massilia. At Heraclea, Hannibal and Gisgo have 7 CUs, not 8. He lost 1 CU due to Attrition following the last battle at Post 650, after having previously been referenced in Post 617 as retreating to Heraclea with 8 CUs. Overall, however, Carthage has 15 CUs, not 14 (2 + 2 + 7 + 3 + 1). Rome’s 1 CU in Sicily is at Agrigentum, not Enna. Thus, the current battle line-up is: Africanus: 4 BR + 10 CUs + 2 Allies = 16 Hannibal: 4 BR + 7 CUs + 1 Ally = 12 Let me know if you have any questions or disagreements. |
| 681 | 6/21/2025 1:48:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
The "Activated" General in Command is a change from the original AH Edition and it can mean a lesser General like Gisgo can command Hasdrubal. The Roman Change of Command Rule can inflict this involuntarily. I didn't see a violation in your game but like to warn as it may surprise. I should have noted I use the Phalanx Rules, based on the Valley Edition, also based on the unpublished 2nd Edition which solved many Rules problems. I'm awaiting a possible new Phalanx Kickstarter Edition. A supposed Golden Geek simple intro rules were done and they were abominable. I can only hope Phalanx doesn't mess up again. |
| 680 | 6/21/2025 1:26:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
I need to get to bed now but will check your review of the game map/game state tomorrow morning. |
| 679 | 6/21/2025 1:23:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Not sure why the previous post said that: I was actually amending the game name to reflect your coming aboard. |
| 678 | 6/21/2025 1:22:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Change Rome player | Rome player changed from Jefferson Gray to Jefferson Gray |
| 677 | 6/21/2025 1:20:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Thanks for your careful analysis of the game record and the rules. I've certainly picked up some things I had overlooked from your commentary. I've added some specific responses to your points below. “Some rules notes: 1. “You did figure out the Consular Rules and when an Event Breaks a Truce. A Campaign "Event" (as an Operation) cannot Break a Truce with prohibited movement.” [Yes, I was always having trouble understanding why playing certain cards for the “Event” was nevertheless considered only an “Operation” for the purposes of any Truce. I should take the time to review carefully the references Dave gave me when this game ends, and maybe use his text to create a Player Aid card to use in future games.] 2. “A General without CU may Avoid [13.1]. However in this situation it's probably better to let Hasdrubal comeback as a Reinforcement.” [You’re clearly right. Displacement of the unescorted leader in these circumstances is automatic in some other games (I think in “Thirty Years War,” for example, which I’ve played a lot), but that’s clearly not the case under Rule 13.1. Hasdrubal would have had a decent (50%) chance of Avoiding, but I could have continued to try to chase him down. On the other hand, as you note, it is probably better for the Carthaginian player if he comes back at New Carthage as opposed to being left in the boondocks of Idubeda. I reember evaluating that, but I’m not sure why I approached it the way I did. 3. “Marcellus' ability doe not apply to Subjugation [24.1].” [Again, you’re right. It does say that squarely in Rule 24, and the same applies to Africanus. I think I was just going by the text on the game board, but that’s something I’ll certainly remember in the future. It makes sense – subjugation of a tribe (which probably would require counterinsurgency tactics) presents very different challenges and requires a completely different skill set than does the siege of a fortified city like Syracuse. In this case, however, after some reversals of fortune during Marcellus’s efforts to subjugate them, the Boii remarkably enough were ultimately suppressed in Post # 390 by Varro, not Marcellus, so this oversight had no ultimate effect on the course of the game.] 4. “An Activated General cannot be subordinated to a General of equal rank [10.8]. This may only matter when a subordinate is later detailed to Intercept [12.7].” [Good catch again. Even when you think you know a rule set like this one reasonably well, things can still sometimes slip between the cracks when the course of game play gets interrupted. Whre did this arise?] 5. “An Interception does not get +1 Battle Card unless it "caused" the Battle, when the space is empty or would be Overrun. This was an old ruling when the Designer was present at a WBC Event, and is usually known by Moderators. “I think it belies the "surprise" [12.4] and then the "unsurprise?" of a Take Back [12.5] and you might agree to ignore in a friendly game.” [Again, that’s an interesting, subtle, and quite valid limitation. As a lawyer, I’m embarrassed that I overlooked it!] |
| 676 | 6/20/2025 6:49:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
MA should be (0,3) Template copy. |
| 675 | 6/20/2025 6:25:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Not even close; I make it: Africanus: 4 +10 Cus +2 Allies =16 Hannibal: 4 +8 CUs + 1 Ally =13 I'll have to see what Battle cards are in play but you have 1st choice. |
| 674 | 6/20/2025 6:23:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Carthage: Mago +3 Intercept to Reinforce Heraclea. Success 1-2 |
| 673 | 6/20/2025 6:21:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Re-Cap Mid-Turn 6 I clarify the confusion of Elephant CUs you had with an example of the starting stack at Saguntum: Hannibal +Gisgo +Mago +10[2e] as the 10 is the Battle Card count, which is the telling total. Of course all the Elephants are dead now. Key: Campania: CM Carthaginia: CA Carthage City: CC PCs: (Carthage, Rome) Victory Provinces: -Carthage has 10 BA(4,0) CE(4,0) OR(5,0) ID(6,0) WN(4,0) EN(4,0) CA(6,0) CC(1,0) LU(3,2) SY(1,0) -Rome has 8 CS(0,3) SI(0,5) GC(0,4) ET(0,4) SA(0,5) LA(0,1) CM(0,2) AP(0,5) Non-Victory Provinces: -Carthage has 1: BI(1,0) -Rome has 1: MA(2,3) -2 are Uncontrolled: GT(0,0) LI(0,0) -Carthage has 14 CUs: New Carthage: 2 alone Icosium WN: Hanno +2 Heraclea LU: Hannibal +Gisgo +8 Brutium LU: Mago +3 Croton LU: 1 alone -Rome has 24 CUs: Ilerda ID: Nero +5 Tarraco ID: 1 alone Beneventum AP: Fabius +Marcellus 7 Enna SI: 1 alone 6th Card Play: Beneventum AP: Africanus +10 on his way to Heraclea LU Victory Check: 10-8 Carthage. I am unsure if Vassal usage correctly matched the ACTS text for Removed and/or Replaced PCs during the many Epic Ding-Dong Battles in Africa and Italy. These are the Spaces I believe may be empty in the contested Provinces: BA: Corduba CE: Arsa ID: Numantia CA: Thapsus MA: Narbo and Nice GC: Verona ET: Pisae CS: Aleria, Nuoro Tell me if I missed something or a correction is need. I'll roll for Mago's Interception. |
| 672 | 6/19/2025 11:12:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Oops I left the completed map at the store. I will continue tomorrow night. I believe Mago will have to Intercept as Carthage's best chance. The long term is not good due to the fearsome Battle attrition. |
| 671 | 6/19/2025 10:44:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Some rules notes: You did figure out the Consular Rules and when an Event Breaks a Truce. A Campaign "Event" (as an Operation) cannot Break a Truce with prohibited movement. A General without CU may Avoid [13.1]. However in this situation it's probably better to let Hasdrubal comeback as a Reinforcement. Marcellus' ability doe not apply to Subjugation [24.1] An Activated General cannot be subordinated to a General of equal rank [10.8] This may only matter when a subordinate is later detailed to Intercept [12.7] An Interception does not get +1 Battle Card unless it "caused" the Battle, when the space is empty or would be Overrun. This was an old ruling when the Designer was present at a WBC Event, and is usually known by Moderators. I think it belies the "surprise" [12.4] and then the "unsurprise?" of a Take Back [12.5] and you might agree to ignore in a friendly game. I'll follow with a Re-Cap of the Board as best I could follow. |
| 670 | 6/19/2025 8:52:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
I left my copies at my Ottawa store after WBC 2024. I'll set it up there to play through and then use paper maps and logs when I catch up. Looks like an epic game indeed. I see Hannibal dodged a DE result on the 1st turn. Prior to your start in May 2022, and during the Convoy occupation right next to my store in February 2022 I suffered a broken ankle on ice. I went through a couple of Surgeries, Anti-biotics (sepsis plus), IV lines, Bone Scan, and much Wound care until finally left with a compression sock this year, so I can somewhat appreciate how you both persevered through your own difficulties. |
| 669 | 6/18/2025 6:44:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
I'm afraid I have to understand the entire Board position. I will set up the game and work through. |
| 668 | 6/18/2025 12:52:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Posts 655-661 reflect where things currently stand, with 661 being my last post to my previous opponent setting out the choices he needed to make at that point. |
| 667 | 6/18/2025 12:50:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Message |
Welcome to the game! Thanks again. |
| 666 | 6/18/2025 12:49:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Change Carthage player | Carthage player changed from Jefferson Gray to Randy Pippus |
| 665 | 6/18/2025 11:13:00 AM | 211-210 BC | Carthage | Change Carthage player | Carthage player changed from Dave Blizzard to Jefferson Gray |
| 664 | 6/16/2025 3:23:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Change Rome player | Rome player changed from Jefferson Gray to Jefferson Gray |
| 663 | 6/16/2025 3:05:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Please note that I am looking for an opponent to take over the Carthaginian side and help me finish out this game. |
| 662 | 4/20/2025 11:08:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Unfortunately, I believe my good friend and long-time gaming opponent has succumbed to the illness he has battled with great will and determination for a number of years now. He was a generous, patient gaming partner who was never willing to throw in his hand no matter how dire his situation looked -- and with good reason, as he often managed to turn his circumstances around! May you rest in peace, Dave. I'm glad that gaming brought us together from the opposites shores of North America, in Baltimore and Vancouver. |
| 661 | 3/13/2025 9:54:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Just before my trip, I had moved with Scipio and 10 CUs into Heraclea, so you were facing the choice of: - attempting to avoid battle with Hannibal, - seeking to reinforce with Mago from Bruttium, or - standing and fighting with Hannibal. |
| 660 | 3/13/2025 9:53:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Hi, Dave. I'm back from Central America. Great trip, but it was long days and physically demanding, so I'm pretty tired. I hope you're feeling better. |
| 659 | 2/28/2025 11:50:00 PM | 211-210 BC | Rome | Message |
Dave: I hope things are going OK and your recovery is progressing well. Remember that I will be away in some pretty remote areas of central America from tomorrow through Wednesday, March 12th, so I probably will have little opportunity for participating through then. |
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