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| Entry # | Time | Turn | Player | Title | Entry |
| 194 | 2/6/2023 9:50:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
Columbus Fort and 1sp with PC Dover same Memphis 1 sp and polk corinth 1 sp thats the west TN placements |
| 193 | 2/6/2023 9:12:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
can you please confirm whether Columbus KY has CSA/USA flag? |
| 192 | 2/6/2023 8:41:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Lucky you! CSA removes 2SPs Louisville. 1SP Fayetteville, AR. |
| 191 | 2/4/2023 1:08:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
* CSA Strategic Will set to 94 (-10 penalty). * USA Strategic Will momentum flipped to DOWN (-3 momentum penalty). * USA Strategic Will set to 100 (-5 penalty, -3 momentum penalty). * Turn marker flipped to EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION.. |
| 190 | 2/4/2023 1:07:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#81: 3 / Emancipation Proclamation - Reshuffle/Remove Either player must play this card as an EC on the Strategy Round immediately following a Union large or medium battle victory. Confederate loses 10 SW and 3 SPs (his choice). Union loses 5 SW. Flip GT marker to its Emancipation Proclamation side. Card must be the last one played by a player at which time it can be played as an OC card. If the play of this card as an OC results in a battle victory, there is no Emancipation Proclamation Remove from deck if event is played. If this card is played as an OC or discarded re-shuffle deck at the end of the Strategy Phase. Message from Union: Event |
| 189 | 2/4/2023 12:47:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
i got the sides backwards 1-2 Union Victory and CSA back to dover |
| 188 | 2/4/2023 12:47:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 1 6 Message from Union: Union +1 4sp CSA +1 2sp Md Battle |
| 187 | 2/4/2023 12:46:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Union: maps are good Buell to RBB on a 1 |
| 186 | 2/2/2023 10:35:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
looking at the log, I don't have an SP in Atlanta. We started to put reinforcements in Fall 1861, and then realized our mistake. Entry 130 is from that erroneous play. What was going on that caused you to mention this in the first place? |
| 185 | 2/2/2023 9:17:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
reinforcements Turn 2. entry 130 in the log. if you missed it that would explain why it's not on the map file you sent. I'm not sure what that has to do with Johnson's attack. we should probably review the log to see what else is missing. Other CSA SPs on the map are 1SP Sabine City with Pemberton 1 SP Little Rock 1SP Ft st. phillip 1SPFt Sumner 1SP Richmond 1SP Ft Monroe And I guess I have 1 SP in Atlanta, unless I used SM to move it. Need to go through the log to figure that out |
| 184 | 2/2/2023 6:30:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
I may have missed some of your reinforcements I have none in Atlanta for you to move |
| 183 | 2/2/2023 6:22:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
A Johnston in Dover 4SP - now in Mckenzie Beuregard in Louisville with 2SP ANV in Fredericksburg with 5SP Bragg with 2SP in Fayetteville. Do you need more? |
| 182 | 2/2/2023 5:36:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
Map problems. I may have the wrong or older map. Can you list all your SPS? |
| 181 | 2/2/2023 9:51:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#74: 2 / Political Crisis The Union player may remove or demote one Union general for no SW cost. The cost for promoting a general with a lower political value still applies. OR remove ANY Union non-commanding general (even second in commands) from the game. Message from Confederate: Activate Johnston M1 to McKenzie with 4SP. RBB? |
| 180 | 2/1/2023 7:59:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
It is Sequence 4 B 2 |
| 179 | 2/1/2023 7:54:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
I thought it was achieved once the condition is met. Incorrect? |
| 178 | 2/1/2023 7:23:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
hopefully, turn not ova yet! |
| 177 | 2/1/2023 7:09:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
That should give you MO for USA and +10 SW |
| 176 | 2/1/2023 5:13:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#90: 3 / Habeas Corpus Reduce Union SW by 2. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Union: place pc markers Missouri springfield KC Lexington |
| 175 | 2/1/2023 5:05:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Event |
#41: 2 / Gov. Isham Harris, Tennessee Confederate Confederate immediately places two SPs in any friendly controlled space in Tennessee with a LOC (both SPs are placed in the same space). SPs may not be placed in Pro-Union spaces or one occupied by Union SPs or a fort. Message from Confederate: 2SPs with A. Johnston. |
| 174 | 2/1/2023 5:02:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
no further movement CSA turn |
| 173 | 2/1/2023 5:01:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
depends on supply and ratio. Union OOS so no CSA roll, Union had ratio so no Union roll |
| 172 | 2/1/2023 4:59:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
no interception. |
| 171 | 2/1/2023 4:59:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 4 Message from Confederate: nevermind about leader loss check. Since you had high force ratio. Interception Attempt with Johnston and 2SP |
| 170 | 2/1/2023 4:54:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Also, isn't there a leader loss check with your roll of 10? |
| 169 | 2/1/2023 4:53:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
Yes |
| 168 | 2/1/2023 4:51:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
And Buell with 2SP and Freement in McKenzie? |
| 167 | 2/1/2023 4:27:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
FYI 1 sp in humboldt and memphis and paducah |
| 166 | 2/1/2023 4:26:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
continue move M1 Paducah M2 Colubmus pu 2sp buell m3 huymboldt, M4 Memphis drop 1 M5 humboldt m6 columnbus m7 mcknzie, AJ intercept? |
| 165 | 2/1/2023 4:25:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
3-1 actually +3 price due to Buell OOS became 3-3 nice work price to TT |
| 164 | 2/1/2023 4:23:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 6 5 Message from Union: Battle Memphis Buell 6-1 +5 Union 1 +1 md battle |
| 163 | 2/1/2023 4:23:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
No problem Battle Memphis Buell 6-1 +5 Union 1 +1 md battle |
| 162 | 2/1/2023 11:48:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 3 Message from Confederate: sorry for the delay. I was away from my PC when you issued last movement, and I forgot it was my turn. RBB Price |
| 161 | 1/30/2023 2:26:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
Fremont 5 sp M1 Paducah M2 Colubmus pu 2sp buell m3 huymboldt, intercept? RBB next move is drop 1 then advance Memphis |
| 160 | 1/30/2023 12:00:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Event |
#89: 1 / Quaker Guns Play as an interrupt to cancel the activation of any Union general with a strategy rating of 2 or 3. Message from Confederate: Cancel Banks activation. You can proceed with your 3rd move. |
| 159 | 1/30/2023 12:11:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
2nd Move Banks 6sp M1 Louisville no RBB Union 6sp +4 ( ratio, oos) B 2sp +1 Md Battle will finish move after battle drop 1 sp louisville M2 lebanon grab halleck M3 BG drop 1 m4 Nashville drop 2 and halleck M5 back to BP with 1 or 2 sp M6 will wait for battle result |
| 158 | 1/29/2023 8:13:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 4 Message from Confederate: Beauregard will attempt to intercept with 1SP |
| 157 | 1/27/2023 4:16:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
yeah ,crazy draws so far. Message from Union: 1st Move Halleck M1 5sp Falmouth drop 1 M2 Lexington drop 1 M3 Frankfort drop 1 M4 Lexington M5 somerset drop 1 m6 lebanon with 1 sp Intercept? |
| 156 | 1/27/2023 8:08:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
another campaign card???! wow. 3 for 3 so far. No intercept. |
| 155 | 1/26/2023 11:54:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#84: 3 / Major Campaign Conduct up to three moves or conduct one special army-size naval move. No SP, general, or army marker may be moved twice with the same campaign card. You must move a different force each move. Message from Union: 1st Move Halleck M1 5sp Falmouth drop 1 M2 Lexington drop 1 M3 Frankfort Intercept? |
| 154 | 1/26/2023 11:54:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Return Strategy card to hand |
#84: 3 / Major Campaign Message from Union: |
| 153 | 1/26/2023 11:53:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#84: 3 / Major Campaign Conduct up to three moves or conduct one special army-size naval move. No SP, general, or army marker may be moved twice with the same campaign card. You must move a different force each move. Message from Union: EVENT 1st Move Halleck M1 5sp Falmouth drop 1 M2 Lexington drop 1 M3 Frankfort Intercept? |
| 152 | 1/26/2023 11:43:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Not playing campaign |
| 151 | 1/26/2023 11:41:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Draw Strategy cards |
6 cards drawn. |
| 150 | 1/26/2023 11:35:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Draw Strategy cards |
6 cards drawn. |
| 149 | 1/26/2023 10:26:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Pemberton to Sabine City Van Doren to ANV |
| 148 | 1/26/2023 10:25:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Confederate: Odd - Van Doren to Sabine City Even - ANV Pemberton goes to the other place |
| 147 | 1/26/2023 4:44:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 3 Message from Union: Freemont Cairo on odd Banks on Cairo on even other goes to bloominton |
| 146 | 1/26/2023 3:26:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
CSA SM * 1 Confederate SP moved Manassas to Dover. * 1 Confederate SP moved Nashville to Louisville. * 1 Confederate SP moved Vicksburg to Fredericksburg. * 1 Confederate SP moved Camden, AR to Fredericksburg. ANV now 4SP |
| 145 | 1/25/2023 10:19:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
* 1 Union SP moved Weston to Frederick. * 1 Union SP moved Lewisburg to Frederick. * 1 Union SP moved Grafton to Frederick. * 1 Union SP moved Franklin, WV to Frederick. * Army of the Potomac SP set to strength 6. * 4 Union SP picked up at Frederick. * 6 Union SP moved Washington, DC to Frederick. 10 SM CSA turn |
| 144 | 1/25/2023 9:57:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
agreed. |
| 143 | 1/25/2023 5:08:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
fixed that Looks like its Union SM time |
| 142 | 1/25/2023 3:10:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
looks like Sabine City should be updated to CSA control |
| 141 | 1/25/2023 3:06:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
The updated file you sent is status of game at end of T2? |
| 140 | 1/23/2023 10:27:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
I keep all my old files. I can send one to you. |
| 139 | 1/23/2023 10:14:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Nah! looks like too much work. It will be easier if you have a recent file before reinforcements |
| 138 | 1/23/2023 10:11:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
I don't have a backup, but think I can undo recent moves Let me try that. |
| 137 | 1/23/2023 10:10:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
yes. No ReF. hmm. Do you have a back up before I placed my numbers? i have one. |
| 136 | 1/23/2023 9:46:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
I see the distinction on SM. Thanks for pointing it out. I think we need to back up a bit. If this is the Fall of 1861, there are no reinforcements, and no blockade runners. just realized that now. which means we only get generals. can still do SM. Right? |
| 135 | 1/23/2023 9:30:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
Banks cairo fremont bloomington forgot to add that but easy to see the 2 spots with 6 troops.. |
| 134 | 1/23/2023 9:29:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 99-sided die x 2 66 88 Message from Union: Union will place generals. CSA fort returned to bank (4) Banks Fremont Low to cairo |
| 133 | 1/23/2023 1:12:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
Yes I can add state abbreviations SM 10.21 paragraph 2. You can SM to an army using any route including naval as long at there is a LOC. |
| 132 | 1/23/2023 1:04:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
can you please do me a favor and include states when providing locations of cities? I'm not familiar with board. Also I thought SM could only be done via naval or RR, and not road. If so, then SPs in Franklin, Lewisburg, and Weston WV are not able to strat move--Right? |
| 131 | 1/23/2023 10:10:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
YES, got busy missed PC at paducah union SM * 1 Union SP moved Strasburg to Frederick * 6 Union SP moved Washington, DC to Frederick. * 1 Union SP moved Lewisburg to Frederick. * 1 Union SP moved Weston to Frederick. * 1 Union SP moved Franklin, WV to Frederick. AoP at 12 |
| 130 | 1/23/2023 9:56:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Sabine TX CSA once again. CSA reinforcements 1SP Louisville 1SP Fredericksburg 1SP Atlanta 1SP Dover 1SP Jackson, MS 1SP New Orleans 1SP Selma, AL 1SP Wilmington, NC 1SP Charleston, SC 1SP Live Oak, FL |
| 129 | 1/23/2023 9:19:00 AM | Fall 1861 | Confederate | Message |
were you going to to SM as well. I thought that was what we agreed upon. I'm good either way. |
| 128 | 1/22/2023 12:48:00 PM | Fall 1861 | Union | Message |
DC 8 Cairo 4 Bloomington 6 |
| 127 | 1/22/2023 12:46:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | End Turn | |
| 126 | 1/22/2023 12:46:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Message |
attrition AoP 3-2, DC 3-2, Cincinnati 6-5 CSA NONE PC WV goes Union Strasburg Union Fred and Man and FM CSA Columbus Paducah Union |
| 125 | 1/22/2023 9:03:00 AM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
I see it now. the rule about cav intelligence is more specific than the chart. |
| 124 | 1/21/2023 9:13:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Message |
i am not at my pc. The -2 is applied to just the commander rating. If he is a +1 then only that is removed, the subordinate general is not affected by no cavalry intelligence. |
| 123 | 1/21/2023 8:49:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
I'm thinking it falls under 7.42.B. AOP only gets +1 additional general besides commander. and you are -2 for no cav intelligence. which nets out to +0, and only 1 loss for ANV. If my math is correct. :) If so, I would like to drop off 2 SP in Manassas. |
| 122 | 1/21/2023 8:45:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
can you please help me understand how you're +1 for the battle in Manassas? |
| 121 | 1/21/2023 8:43:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Not yet. drop off 1 CU In Manassas, M6 ANV moves to Fredericksburg. end move. end of turn |
| 120 | 1/21/2023 6:33:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Message |
2-2 CSA wins AoP retreat to Frederick end of turn? |
| 119 | 1/21/2023 6:32:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 5 6 Message from Union: lost track CSA +4 5 sp AoP +1 4 sp Medium battle |
| 118 | 1/21/2023 4:56:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Are we moving forward with the battle, and the modified described below? |
| 117 | 1/16/2023 10:42:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 4 Message from Union: Intercept Not at pc will roll and expect Union to do nothing |
| 116 | 1/16/2023 10:41:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Are the battle modifiers I calculated below correct? |
| 115 | 1/16/2023 10:26:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Yeah. Proceed. Do you want to intercept? |
| 114 | 1/16/2023 7:21:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Message |
the lack of cavalry reduces the commander by two, since he is a 1 the 1 general subordinate can participate. also get a one chance to intercept. continue? |
| 113 | 1/13/2023 9:33:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
ANV loses 1 SP Drop of 1 SP in Fort monroe ANV with 5 CP M3 Wiliamsburg M4 Wilderness M5 to Manasas Medium battle CSA +4 USA +0 ---if I have my calculations correct If you agree you can roll on CRT |
| 112 | 1/13/2023 9:30:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 3 4 Message from Confederate: siege of Fort Monroe CSA first die USA 2nd die |
| 111 | 1/13/2023 9:28:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#82: 3 / Foreign Intervention - Reshuffle/Remove Either player can play this card as an EC when Confederate SW is 110+. If this is the last card in a players hand or the second to last and the player holds the Emancipation Proclamation, if the condition is met, it must be played as an EC, if not it can be played as an OC. EFFECTS: 1. Union Blockade reduced by one (cannot become greater than 4 for the remainder of the game). 2. Union -2 SP Reinforcements for the remainder of the game (Union choice). 3. Union SW reduced by 10. Remove from deck if event is played. If card is played as an OC or discarded re-shuffle deck at end of the Strategy Phase. Message from Confederate: was going to play this as my first card, but when you destroyed my fort, prereqs were not longer satisfied. I presume that's why you did attack. Anyway, I don't think I was able legally allowed to play unless this was my last card - unless I also had Emanc Procl. Anyway, I'll Activate ANV M1 to Williamsburg M2 to Fort Monroe |
| 110 | 1/13/2023 4:40:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#72: 2 / John Ericsson's Monitor Fleet The Union Amphibious Assault modifier is increased by two. Message from Union: event AA now 2 |
| 109 | 1/12/2023 10:30:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#15: 1 / Mosby's Raiders Confederate can remove two Union PC Markers in Virginia within 2 spaces of Winchester, VA. The spaces may contain Union generals, SPs or forts. Message from Confederate: General reorg Bragg to Fayetteville Price to Memphis Polk to ANV Beauregard to Louiville A. Johnston to Dover |
| 108 | 1/12/2023 5:10:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#29: 2 / Crittenden Compromise Union places (or flips in border states) two PC markers in any spaces free of Confederate SPs or forts which are not Resource spaces, Blockade Runner Ports, or Coastal forts. Void after Emancipation Proclamation. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Union: Pope with 6 sps m1 strasburg m2 franklin drop 1 m3 grafton drop 1 m4 weston drop 1 m5 leweisbnurg drop 1 m6 franklin m7 strasburg drop 1 m8 manasssas join AOP now 4 sps |
| 107 | 1/10/2023 3:05:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
Marshall attack was not a tie. Medium battle CSA 5SP to USA 1SP. CSA modified roll was 8 with 2* result. USA inflicted only 1 result |
| 106 | 1/10/2023 2:44:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Message |
Not at pc but check. If tie at marshal ends you attack |
| 105 | 1/10/2023 1:47:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
each side loses 1 SP. Union loses battle since non resource space. End move. Your turn now. |
| 104 | 1/10/2023 1:46:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 4 6 Message from Confederate: Small battle CSA +3 USA +0 |
| 103 | 1/10/2023 1:46:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
actually, I want to continue moving. I don't think I can convert with a Corp (only an Army). So, I will drop off 1SP in Sabine City, and have 4 movement points remaining. M1 Nacogloches M2 Marshal M3 Shreveport M4 Campden to attack invading union forces |
| 102 | 1/10/2023 1:34:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
that was small battle (4 v 1). Each side loses 1 SP. defender loses because it was a non-resource space Bragg moves to Sabine City with 3 SP. ends move. Your turn |
| 101 | 1/10/2023 1:32:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 4 3 Message from Confederate: CSA +5 USA +0 |
| 100 | 1/10/2023 1:31:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Message |
each side loses 1 SP. Bragg continues to move to Nacogdoches and attacks. |
| 99 | 1/10/2023 1:30:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 1 2 Message from Confederate: Bragg will continue to move - next stop Marshall, TX. Another battle.... CSA +7 USA +0 |
| 98 | 1/10/2023 1:10:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Message |
2-1 Bragg 5 sp wins combat banks fremont to TT |
| 97 | 1/10/2023 1:09:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 6 2 Message from Union: Bragg 6sp +3 Fremont 2sp +0 |
| 96 | 1/10/2023 1:43:00 AM | Summer 1861 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#100: 3 / Shiloh Confederate Player may move 5 SPs using Strategic Movement (rail connections only) to the same space with a Confederate General who is then activated and must attempt to enter a space with at least one or more Union SPs or fort. If a general casualty occurs in a battle caused by this card, the Commanding General is eligible, this is an exception to the rules. See 4.5. Message from Confederate: 1 Confederate SP moved Mobile to Monroe. 1 Confederate SP moved New Orleans to Monroe. 1 Confederate SP moved Charleston, SC to Monroe. 1 Confederate SP moved Nashville to Monroe. Gen Brag with 6 SP marches on Shreve port to attack Fremont. We have a medium battle. CSA +3, USA +0. If you concur, then go ahead and roll. I don't believe you can retreat before battle. |
| 95 | 1/9/2023 2:16:00 PM | Summer 1861 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#46: 1 / Pro Union Secessionist in Tennessee Union receives two PC markers in any Pro-Union space in Tennessee free of Confederate SPs and forts. Message from Union: Activate Fremont 6sp Sabine City M1 Nacogdoches drop 1 M2 Marshall drop 1 M3 Schreveport drop 1 M4 Washington drop 1 M5 Camden drop 1 M6 back to SHreveport, 2 sps and 2 worthless genereals |
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