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| Entry # | Time | Turn | Player | Card Number | Ops | Type | Entry |
| 416 | 5/2/2024 7:32:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 22 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#22 Flank Right Message from Rome: NOPE 5 right 3 left 3 DE |
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| 415 | 5/2/2024 7:29:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 31 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage |
#31 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage: |
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| 414 | 5/2/2024 7:29:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 46 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage |
#46 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage: |
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| 413 | 5/2/2024 7:26:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: |
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| 411 | 5/2/2024 7:26:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 28 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#28 Flank Right Message from Rome: |
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| 410 | 5/2/2024 7:20:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 25 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#25 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 409 | 5/2/2024 7:19:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 34 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage |
#34 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage: as de |
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| 408 | 5/2/2024 7:18:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: |
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| 406 | 5/2/2024 7:18:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 27 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#27 Flank Right Message from Rome: |
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| 405 | 5/2/2024 7:12:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 29 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#29 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 404 | 5/2/2024 7:12:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage |
#42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: |
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| 403 | 5/2/2024 7:12:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: |
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| 401 | 5/2/2024 7:12:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 24 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#24 Flank Right Message from Rome: |
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| 400 | 5/2/2024 6:43:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 30 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#30 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 389 | 4/30/2024 4:20:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 57 | 1 | Operations |
#57: 1 / Hanno Counsels Carthage (Rome) Carthaginian CUs are prohibited from leaving Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled. Message from Carthage: Hannibal with 7 cu to -Rome: reaction? .... |
| 388 | 4/29/2024 1:14:00 PM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 2 | 3 | Operations |
#2: 3 / Sicilia Revolts (Both) If your opponent has control of Sicily, remove all his non-walled PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CUs. Message from Rome: PC Verona, Flip Mutina, PC in Fir. Pic. |
| 386 | 4/29/2024 9:34:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 1 | 3 | Operations |
#1: 3 / Corsica and Sardinia Revolt (Both) If your opponent has control of Corsica/Sardinia, remove all his PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CUs. Message from Carthage: flip Croton, PC Nuro, Aleria |
| 385 | 4/29/2024 9:05:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 48 | 1 | Event |
#48: 1 / Allied Auxiliaries (Campania) (Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if CAMPANIA is Roman controlled. Message from Rome: 2 more in Rome now at 5 |
| 378 | 4/29/2024 8:13:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 10 Frontal Assault Message from Rome |
#10 Frontal Assault Message from Rome: I HAD 5 of these.....POOP |
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| 377 | 4/29/2024 8:12:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 46 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage |
#46 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage: as flank left |
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| 375 | 4/29/2024 8:11:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 47 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome |
#47 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome: |
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| 374 | 4/29/2024 8:11:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 38 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage |
#38 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage: as flank left |
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| 371 | 4/29/2024 8:11:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 19 Flank Left Message from Rome |
#19 Flank Left Message from Rome: |
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| 369 | 4/29/2024 8:10:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 18 Flank Left Message from Carthage |
#18 Flank Left Message from Carthage: |
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| 367 | 4/29/2024 8:10:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 16 Flank Left Message from Rome |
#16 Flank Left Message from Rome: |
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| 366 | 4/29/2024 8:09:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 21 Flank Left Message from Carthage |
#21 Flank Left Message from Carthage: |
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| 364 | 4/29/2024 8:08:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 17 Flank Left Message from Rome |
#17 Flank Left Message from Rome: |
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| 363 | 4/29/2024 8:08:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 13 Flank Left Message from Carthage |
#13 Flank Left Message from Carthage: |
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| 361 | 4/29/2024 8:07:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 30 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#30 Flank Right Message from Rome: |
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| 359 | 4/29/2024 8:07:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 30 | F | d to Rome |
#30: Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
| 355 | 4/29/2024 8:04:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 22 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#22 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 354 | 4/29/2024 8:03:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 59 | 1 | Event |
#59: 1 / Ally Deserts (Both) Draw one BC from your opponent's hand and add it to your own. Message from Rome: I will play this however so when we deal then give me one of your cards please |
| 347 | 4/29/2024 7:56:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 37 | 3 | Event |
#37: 3 / Minor Campaign (Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units. Message from Carthage: 1. Hannibal with 7 cu to Beneventum, picks up Gisgo + 1cu attacks Capua. Reaction? |
| 346 | 4/29/2024 7:54:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 10 | 2 | Operations |
#10: 2 / Macedonian Reinforcements (Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's in any friendly controlled port in Africa or Italy. May only be played while Philip V of Macedonia is allied with Carthage. Message from Rome: Longus alone moves to Rome, Faleii, Ariminum PU 1 and end turn in Mutina (now with 1 CU) 1 lone PC in Fir. Pic. Paulus stack has 8 |
| 345 | 4/29/2024 7:20:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 24 | 3 | Operations |
#24: 3 / Sophonsiba Seduces a Numidian Kin (Carthage) Pick either Western or Eastern Numidia and place up to three Carthaginian PCs in that province in spaces which do not contain enemy CUs. If the space contains a Roman PC, the PC is simply flipped. Message from Carthage: Pc's Heraclea, Benevntum, Oristano |
| 344 | 4/29/2024 7:19:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Rome | 13 | 2 | Operations |
#13: 2 / Bruttium Recruits (Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Lucania Message from Rome: PC in Croton & Tarqunii |
| 341 | 4/29/2024 5:03:00 AM | 213-212 BC | Carthage | 28 | 2 | Event |
#28: 2 / Hannibal Charms Italy (Carthage) If you play this as an OC to move Hannibal, you may remove each Roman non-walled PC in each space in Italy that Hannibal enters which does not contain any Roman CUs. Message from Carthage: Hannibal to -Benevntum ... intercept? |
| 323 | 4/26/2024 9:01:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 18 | 2 | Operations |
#18: 2 / Traitor in Tarentum (Both) If you use this card as an OC to siege Tarentum, it comes under your control without a Siege die roll. Enemy CUs inside are eliminated. Message from Rome: FLIP Ariminum & Fir. Pic |
| 322 | 4/26/2024 8:59:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 47 | 3 | Operations |
#47: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Lucania) (Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if LUCANIA is Roman controlled. Message from Carthage: Flip Terventum, pc's Arpi and Cannae |
| 321 | 4/26/2024 8:57:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 63 | 3 | Operations |
#63: 3 / Force March (any general) (Both) Move any General up to six spaces. Message from Rome: give me back one CU now at 4 in Capua |
| 317 | 4/26/2024 8:53:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: NOPE - I had 3 out of the 6 in my hand but not enough CA rolls my way to do it... Okay it's the 10 + column for both of us then my retreat roll which will probably remove all my guys |
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| 316 | 4/26/2024 8:44:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 3 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage |
#3 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage: |
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| 314 | 4/26/2024 8:43:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome |
#48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome: |
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| 313 | 4/26/2024 8:07:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 1 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage |
#1 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage: |
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| 312 | 4/26/2024 8:06:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage |
#42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: |
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| 311 | 4/26/2024 8:06:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: |
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| 309 | 4/26/2024 8:05:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 45 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome |
#45 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome: 8th round |
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| 308 | 4/26/2024 7:58:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 2 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage |
#2 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage: |
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| 306 | 4/26/2024 7:51:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 11 Frontal Assault Message from Rome |
#11 Frontal Assault Message from Rome: |
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| 305 | 4/26/2024 7:28:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 4 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage |
#4 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage: |
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| 303 | 4/26/2024 7:26:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 7 Frontal Assault Message from Rome |
#7 Frontal Assault Message from Rome: |
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| 302 | 4/26/2024 7:21:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 9 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage |
#9 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage: |
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| 300 | 4/26/2024 7:21:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 6 Frontal Assault Message from Rome |
#6 Frontal Assault Message from Rome: 5th round - match |
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| 299 | 4/26/2024 7:19:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 10 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage |
#10 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage: |
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| 297 | 4/26/2024 7:14:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 15 Flank Left Message from Rome |
#15 Flank Left Message from Rome: |
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| 296 | 4/26/2024 7:11:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 13 Flank Left Message from Carthage |
#13 Flank Left Message from Carthage: |
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| 294 | 4/26/2024 7:10:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 14 Flank Left Message from Rome |
#14 Flank Left Message from Rome: round 3 |
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| 293 | 4/26/2024 7:06:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 18 Flank Left Message from Carthage |
#18 Flank Left Message from Carthage: |
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| 292 | 4/26/2024 7:06:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage |
#39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: |
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| 291 | 4/26/2024 7:06:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: |
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| 289 | 4/26/2024 7:04:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 20 Flank Left Message from Rome |
#20 Flank Left Message from Rome: |
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| 288 | 4/26/2024 7:04:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 19 Flank Left Message from Carthage |
#19 Flank Left Message from Carthage: |
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| 277 | 4/26/2024 6:52:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 25 | 2 | Operations |
#25: 2 / Capua Sides with Carthage (Carthage) If the Carthage controls 3 or more Italian provinces Capua is converted to Carthaginian control and all Roman CUs inside are eliminated. Message from Carthage: Hannibal to Arpi via Canaaes, picks up Gisgo and attacks Nero in Terventum avoid? intercept? |
| 270 | 4/26/2024 6:40:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 61 | 1 | Event |
#61: 1 / Force March (1 rating) (Both) Move a General whose Strategy Rating is 1 up to six spaces. Message from Rome: Longus and 5 remain in Rome Nero and 7 move to Falerii, Ariminum drop 1 CU move to Fir. Pic and drop 1 CU then move with 5CU to Sena Possible intercept |
| 267 | 4/24/2024 9:46:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 41 | 1 | Operations |
#41: 1 / Bad Weather (Both) Play immediately after opponent has moved but before combat. Contrary to his expectations, his General has only move two spaces - return him to the second space he entered. Message from Carthage: Hannibal with all to -Terventum..... intercept? |
| 263 | 4/24/2024 9:31:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 53 | 1 | Operations |
#53: 1 / Tribal Resistance (Both) Remove any accrued Subjugation Points in any one Tribe space. Message from Rome: all Rome guys move (over a back an forth) to Capua again with 12 CU total |
| 262 | 4/24/2024 9:20:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 6 | 1 | Operations |
#6: 1 / Marharbal's Cavalry (Carthage) Play during any battle. You may use this card as a Double Envelopment BC which (if matched) does not automatically give the defender the initiative. Message from Carthage: PC Paestum |
| 261 | 4/24/2024 9:17:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 30 | 3 | Operations |
#30: 3 / Carthaginian Siege Train (Carthage) Place the Siege Train Marker with any Carthaginian General. A General with the Siege Train ignores the -1 die roll modifier applied against Carthaginian sieges. Message from Rome: add one to Rome now 12 |
| 260 | 4/24/2024 9:14:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 23 | 3 | Operations |
#23: 3 / Numidian Ally (Rome) Place up to three Roman PCs in Eastern Numidia in spaces which do not contain enemy CUs. If the space contains a Carthaginian PC, the PC is simply flipped. Message from Carthage: So, now 11 cu in Rome Raise 1 cu with Hannibal, now 10 cu |
| 257 | 4/24/2024 8:57:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 26 | 3 | Operations |
#26: 3 / Syracuse Allies with Carthage (Carthage) You immediately gain control of Syracuse (any Roman units inside are eliminated. Syracuse provides a -1 modifier for Sea Movement Message from Rome: add 1 CU to Rome now all in Rome with 13 total CU |
| 254 | 4/24/2024 8:53:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 2 Frontal Assault Message from Rome |
#2 Frontal Assault Message from Rome: NOPE |
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| 253 | 4/24/2024 8:33:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 26 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#26 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 251 | 4/24/2024 8:32:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 24 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#24 Flank Right Message from Rome: |
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| 250 | 4/24/2024 8:31:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 27 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#27 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 245 | 4/24/2024 7:41:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 15 | 1 | Operations |
#15: 1 / Iberian Recruits (Both) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in a friendly controlled province of Hispania. Message from Carthage: Hannibal with all atatcks Varro via Sena -interception possible in Sena -interception possible in Praeneste -avoid possible |
| 244 | 4/24/2024 7:37:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 11 | 1 | Operations |
#11: 1 / Balearic Slingers (Both) If you control the Balearic Islands, place one CU in any Port containing a friendly PC and no enemy CUs. Message from Rome: Varro moves with 5 CU to Praeneste |
| 243 | 4/24/2024 7:33:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 19 | 1 | Event |
#19: 1 / Senate Dismisses Proconsul (Both) If there is a Roman Proconsul on the map other than Scipio Africanus, it is removed and replaced with an unused Roman General. The player playing this card determines the replacement. Message from Carthage: Fabius out, Varro in |
| 242 | 4/24/2024 7:27:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 12 | 2 | Operations |
#12: 2 / African Reinforcements (Carthage) Place one Elephant unit (at strength level 2) in Carthage. If an Elephant unit is not available, place two regular CUs in Carthage Message from Rome: Longus with 5 moves to Falerii - PU 5 and Nero and returns to Rome Fabius (PC) remains in Falerii with 5 CU Boy these Consul / PRO-Consul stacking limits are a pain.... |
| 239 | 4/24/2024 6:58:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 31 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome |
#31 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome: |
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| 237 | 4/24/2024 2:26:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage |
#48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage: |
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| 236 | 4/23/2024 12:38:00 PM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 36 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome |
#36 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome: |
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| 234 | 4/23/2024 12:38:00 PM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 22 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#22 Flank Right Message from Rome: |
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| 233 | 4/23/2024 11:20:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 30 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#30 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 231 | 4/23/2024 11:20:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 37 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage |
#37 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage: |
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| 230 | 4/23/2024 11:20:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 32 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome |
#32 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome: |
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| 228 | 4/23/2024 11:20:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Rome | 29 Flank Right Message from Rome |
#29 Flank Right Message from Rome: match |
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| 227 | 4/23/2024 11:18:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 26 Flank Right Message from Carthage |
#26 Flank Right Message from Carthage: |
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| 217 | 4/23/2024 9:33:00 AM | 215-214 BC | Carthage | 34 | 3 | Event |
#34: 3 / Major Campaign (Both) MOVE ANY THREE GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units. Message from Carthage: 1. Hannibal (leaving Gisgo with with 2 cu behind) with 10 cu to -Sena -Fpi ... possible intercept |
| 196 | 4/23/2024 8:47:00 AM | 216 BC | Carthage | 44 | 2 | Operations |
#44: 2 / Allied Auxiliaries (Apulia) (Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if APULIA is Roman controlled. Message from Carthage: Flip Praenste Pc Bilbilis (Spain) |
| 192 | 4/23/2024 8:43:00 AM | 216 BC | Rome | 37 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome |
#37 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome: match the card not the old Carthage switch-aro.... I lose all 3 due to DE but let's see if we can take a blue guy with us. |
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| 191 | 4/23/2024 8:27:00 AM | 216 BC | Carthage | 35 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage |
#35 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage: as DE |
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| 190 | 4/23/2024 8:26:00 AM | 216 BC | Carthage | 44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage |
#44 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: |
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| 188 | 4/23/2024 8:09:00 AM | 216 BC | Rome | 40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#40 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: |
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| 187 | 4/23/2024 8:08:00 AM | 216 BC | Rome | 39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome |
#39 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome: |
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| 186 | 4/23/2024 7:37:00 AM | 216 BC | Carthage | 43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage |
#43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage: |
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| 179 | 4/23/2024 6:28:00 AM | 216 BC | Carthage | 40 | 3 | Event |
#40: 3 / Minor Campaign (Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units. Message from Carthage: 1. Hannibal with 10 cu (leaving Gisgo and 1 cu behind) to -Ariminum -FiPi ... Possible intercept in FipI by Fabius? |
| 178 | 4/23/2024 6:24:00 AM | 216 BC | Rome | 20 | 1 | Operations |
#20: 1 / Spy in Enemy Camp (Both) Play at the start of any combat. You may examine up to half of your opponent's Battle Cards. Cards must be drawn randomly. Message from Rome: Place PC back in Falerii That is the end of my cards so Carthage can go WILD. |
| 177 | 4/23/2024 2:51:00 AM | 216 BC | Carthage | 16 | 2 | Event |
#16: 2 / Gallic Recruits (Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Gallia Transalpinia or Cisalpinia Message from Carthage: 2 cu with hanibal and Gisgo, now 11 cu |
| 176 | 4/22/2024 2:15:00 PM | 216 BC | Rome | 52 | 2 | Operations |
#52: 2 / Pestilence (Both) One opposing Army currently besieging a city must roll on the Attrition Table with a +1 die roll modifier. Message from Rome: Longus with 5 CU moves to meet Fabius via Rome, drops off 2 (Fabius now at 10) and then with just 3 returns to Praeneste |
| 173 | 4/22/2024 2:10:00 PM | 216 BC | Rome | 21 Flank Left Message from Rome |
#21 Flank Left Message from Rome: not a one |
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