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281 8/4/2025 6:27:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 29 2 Operations #29: 2 / Carthaginian Naval Victory
(Carthage) For the rest of the year a -1 die roll modifier for naval movement applies, and Roman Naval Movement is limited to Minor or Major Campaign Strategy Cards.

Message from Rome:
place PCs at Apri and Cannae
279 8/3/2025 8:05:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage 5 2 Operations #5: 2 / Native Guide
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to move an Army, and the Army crosses a Mountain Pass, you may modify your Mountain Pass Attrition die roll by -3.

Message from Carthage:
278 8/3/2025 1:12:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 16 2 Operations #16: 2 / Gallic Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Gallia Transalpinia or Cisalpinia

Message from Rome:
flip PCs at Panormus and Ariminum
276 8/2/2025 3:51:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage 37 3 Event #37: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
273 8/2/2025 3:48:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage 23 Flank Right Message from Carthage #23 Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
cant match
272 8/1/2025 9:08:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 16 Flank Left Message from Rome #16 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
Round 4 attack
270 8/1/2025 2:38:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage 48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage #48 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
CA
269 7/31/2025 8:11:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 15 Flank Left Message from Rome #15 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
R3 attack
267 7/31/2025 3:07:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage 47 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage #47 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
266 7/31/2025 2:04:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 36 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome #36 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
R2 attack
262 7/30/2025 9:12:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage 45 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage #45 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
probe
261 7/30/2025 5:56:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 38 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome #38 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
R1 attack. Romans liking Probe
250 7/28/2025 10:32:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 32 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome #32 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
R2 attack
247 7/28/2025 9:14:00 PM 213-212 BC Carthage 48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage #48 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
probe lol
246 7/27/2025 10:00:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 33 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome #33 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
R1 attack
238 7/26/2025 3:32:00 PM 213-212 BC Rome 39 3 Event #39: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Rome:
play for event

first activation is Fabius Maximus +10CU

move to Falerii, then engage Trump at Ariminium.

you can react.

i have battke at Rome 15 to Carthage 14
222 7/24/2025 8:56:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 20 1 Operations #20: 1 / Spy in Enemy Camp
(Both) Play at the start of any combat. You may examine up to half of your opponent's Battle Cards. Cards must be drawn randomly.

Message from Carthage:
flip arminium
220 7/23/2025 10:10:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 57 1 Operations #57: 1 / Hanno Counsels Carthage
(Rome) Carthaginian CUs are prohibited from leaving Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled.

Message from Rome:
Nero moves to Rhegium
219 7/23/2025 8:11:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 8 1 Operations #8: 1 / Hostile Tribes
(Both) Play whenever an opposing army occupies (or enters) space in Gallia Transalpinia or Liguria. The Army immediately undergoes Attrition on the 5-6 column.

Message from Carthage:
hannibal move to arminium
218 7/23/2025 12:25:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 54 2 Operations #54: 2 / Treachery Within City
(Both) If you use this card as an OC to conduct a siege, you may roll twice on the Siege Table and use both results.

Message from Rome:
PC at Nuoro and Aleria
216 7/22/2025 2:25:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 64 2 Operations #64: 2 / Truce
(Both) Neither player may enter a space containing an enemy CU or PC while the Truce lasts. The Truce ends when either player uses a Strategy Card as an event.

Message from Carthage:
215 7/21/2025 4:47:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 29 2 Operations #29: 2 / Carthaginian Naval Victory
(Carthage) For the rest of the year a -1 die roll modifier for naval movement applies, and Roman Naval Movement is limited to Minor or Major Campaign Strategy Cards.

Message from Rome:
flip PC at Beneventum

PC at Carales
213 7/21/2025 4:41:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 1 3 Event #1: 3 / Corsica and Sardinia Revolt
(Both) If your opponent has control of Corsica/Sardinia, remove all his PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CUs.

Message from Carthage:
212 7/21/2025 12:53:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 56 2 Operations #56: 2 / Grain Shortage
(Carthage) Remove any three Roman non-walled PCs. You may only play this card if you control Sicilia.

Message from Rome:
move Nero +10CU to Beneventum
209 7/19/2025 4:10:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 4 3 Operations #4: 3 / Celtiberia Revolts
(Both) If your opponent controls Celtiberia, remove all his PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CU's.

Message from Carthage:
208 7/19/2025 2:30:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 15 1 Operations #15: 1 / Iberian Recruits
(Both) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in a friendly controlled province of Hispania.

Message from Rome:
flip PC at Heraclea
205 7/19/2025 1:16:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 34 3 Event #34: 3 / Major Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY THREE GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
202 7/17/2025 11:19:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 39 3 Event #39: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Rome:
first activation is Nero +10CU

move to Hippo Regius, sail to Paestium.

Any reaction before he continues?
200 7/17/2025 4:46:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 62 2 Operations #62: 2 / Force March (1 or 2 rating)
(Both) Move a General whose Strategy Rating is 1 or 2 up to six spaces.

Message from Carthage:
197 7/16/2025 3:01:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 51 2 Event #51: 2 / Epidemic
(Both) One opposing Army must roll on the Attrition Table.

Message from Rome:
play on Hannibal's army.

I'll make the roll
195 7/16/2025 2:47:00 PM 215-214 BC Carthage 31 1 Operations #31: 1 / Spanish Allies Desert
(Both) Your opponent does not receive any Battle Card bonuses for Spanish Allies for that Combat.

Message from Carthage:
194 7/16/2025 2:45:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 50 3 Operations #50: 3 / Adriatic Pirates
(Carthage) If you use this card as an OC for Sea Movement and carry no more than 3 CUs plus a General, you do not have to roll on the Naval Combat Table if you embark or debark at either Brundisium, Croton or Tarentum

Message from Rome:
using this card instead
193 7/16/2025 2:45:00 PM 215-214 BC Rome 29 2 o hand #29: 2 / Carthaginian Naval Victory

Message from Rome:
190 7/16/2025 11:21:00 AM 215-214 BC Rome 29 2 Operations #29: 2 / Carthaginian Naval Victory
(Carthage) For the rest of the year a -1 die roll modifier for naval movement applies, and Roman Naval Movement is limited to Minor or Major Campaign Strategy Cards.

Message from Rome:
Place PCs at Firmum Picenum, Sena and Zuccabar
175 7/12/2025 8:42:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 30 3 Operations #30: 3 / Carthaginian Siege Train
(Carthage) Place the Siege Train Marker with any Carthaginian General. A General with the Siege Train ignores the -1 die roll modifier applied against Carthaginian sieges.

Message from Carthage:
flip lilybeau, beneventum, paestium
174 7/11/2025 6:54:00 PM 216 BC Rome 52 2 Operations #52: 2 / Pestilence
(Both) One opposing Army currently besieging a city must roll on the Attrition Table with a +1 die roll modifier.

Message from Rome:
flip PCs at Ariminum and Thubursicu
168 7/9/2025 8:03:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 33 3 Event #33: 3 / Major Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY THREE GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
167 7/8/2025 7:53:00 PM 216 BC Rome 7 1 Operations #7: 1 / Hostile Tribes
(Both) Play whenever an opposing army occupies (or enters) space in Gallia Transalpinia or Liguria. The Army immediately undergoes Attrition on the 5-6 column.

Message from Rome:
Nero +10 CU move to Thubusicu
165 7/6/2025 7:30:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 46 3 Operations #46: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Samnium)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if SAMNIUM is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:
add 1 to hannibal (n8)
164 7/6/2025 11:59:00 AM 216 BC Rome 28 2 Operations #28: 2 / Hannibal Charms Italy
(Carthage) If you play this as an OC to move Hannibal, you may remove each Roman non-walled PC in each space in Italy that Hannibal enters which does not contain any Roman CUs.

Message from Rome:
activate Flaminius. move with 7CU and Varro to Ariminum.

drop off 1CU and Varro

end move at Rome
162 7/6/2025 8:45:00 AM 216 BC Carthage 21 2 Operations #21: 2 / Mercenaries Desert
(Rome) The Carthaginian player must use the Attrition Table for all his forces on the map not in friendly walled city spaces. Units with Generals are exempt if a separate die roll <= the General's Battle Rating.

Message from Carthage:
161 7/5/2025 12:05:00 PM 216 BC Rome 9 3 Operations #9: 3 / Philip Allies with Carthage
(Both) The Roman must randomly discard on Strategy Card. Carthage receives a -1 die roll modifier for Sea Movement. Once Macedonia is at war, this event becomes playable only by Rome and ends the Macedonian alliance.

Message from Rome:
recruit 1CU to Flaminius army. now at 7
155 7/2/2025 3:51:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 38 3 Event #38: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Carthage:
151 6/30/2025 6:09:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 46 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage #46 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
play as Double envelopment
149 6/29/2025 11:49:00 PM 216 BC Rome 37 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Rome #37 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Rome:
R12 match
148 6/29/2025 9:20:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 36 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage #36 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Carthage:
146 6/29/2025 10:25:00 AM 216 BC Rome 16 Flank Left Message from Rome #16 Flank Left

Message from Rome:
R11 match
145 6/28/2025 4:12:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 19 Flank Left Message from Carthage #19 Flank Left

Message from Carthage:
143 6/28/2025 4:12:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 45 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Carthage #45 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Carthage:
frontal
142 6/28/2025 11:58:00 AM 216 BC Rome 6 Frontal Assault Message from Rome #6 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
R10 attack
140 6/28/2025 11:58:00 AM 216 BC Rome 47 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome #47 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Rome:
R9 match
139 6/27/2025 9:16:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 26 Flank Right Message from Carthage #26 Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
137 6/26/2025 8:38:00 PM 216 BC Rome 22 Flank Right Message from Rome #22 Flank Right

Message from Rome:
R8 match
136 6/25/2025 8:27:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 30 Flank Right Message from Carthage #30 Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
134 6/25/2025 8:27:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 3 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage #3 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
133 6/24/2025 6:42:00 PM 216 BC Rome 9 Frontal Assault Message from Rome #9 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
R7 attack
132 6/24/2025 6:42:00 PM 216 BC Rome 43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome #43 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
R6 match
131 6/24/2025 6:17:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 38 Probe (modify retreat by -2) Message from Carthage #38 Probe (modify retreat by -2)

Message from Carthage:
play as DE using hannibal special ability
129 6/24/2025 6:17:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 10 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage #10 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
128 6/24/2025 5:40:00 PM 216 BC Rome 4 Frontal Assault Message from Rome #4 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
R5 attack
127 6/24/2025 5:40:00 PM 216 BC Rome 42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Rome #42 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Rome:
R4 match
126 6/24/2025 4:45:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative) Message from Carthage #41 Double Envelopment (modify retreat by +2, lose initiative)

Message from Carthage:
124 6/24/2025 4:45:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 7 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage #7 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
123 6/24/2025 3:40:00 PM 216 BC Rome 11 Frontal Assault Message from Rome #11 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
R3 attack
121 6/24/2025 3:40:00 PM 216 BC Rome 23 Flank Right Message from Rome #23 Flank Right

Message from Rome:
R2 match
120 6/24/2025 3:37:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 28 Flank Right Message from Carthage #28 Flank Right

Message from Carthage:
118 6/24/2025 3:36:00 PM 216 BC Carthage 5 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage #5 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
117 6/24/2025 11:37:00 AM 216 BC Rome 8 Frontal Assault Message from Rome #8 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
R1 attack
111 6/22/2025 1:45:00 PM 216 BC Rome 10 2 Operations #10: 2 / Macedonian Reinforcements
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's in any friendly controlled port in Africa or Italy. May only be played while Philip V of Macedonia is allied with Carthage.

Message from Rome:
move Flaminius +5CU to falerii, pick up 5 there and move to Ariminum attacking Hannibal. you can avoid or fight

I have it as
Rome - 14
Carthage - 15
109 6/22/2025 9:25:00 AM 216 BC Carthage 19 1 Event #19: 1 / Senate Dismisses Proconsul
(Both) If there is a Roman Proconsul on the map other than Scipio Africanus, it is removed and replaced with an unused Roman General. The player playing this card determines the replacement.

Message from Carthage:
108 6/21/2025 12:10:00 PM 216 BC Rome 47 3 Event #47: 3 / Allied Auxiliaries (Lucania)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if LUCANIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Rome:
add 2 CU to Marcellus. now at 9
107 6/21/2025 8:07:00 AM 216 BC Carthage 12 2 Event #12: 2 / African Reinforcements
(Carthage) Place one Elephant unit (at strength level 2) in Carthage. If an Elephant unit is not available, place two regular CUs in Carthage

Message from Carthage:
106 6/20/2025 12:03:00 PM 216 BC Rome 35 2 Event #35: 2 / Diplomacy
(Both) Convert any one non-walled, non-tribal enemy PC Marker in a space without an enemy CU into a friendly PC Marker.

Message from Rome:
flip Croton
93 6/17/2025 8:01:00 PM 217 BC Rome 41 1 Operations #41: 1 / Bad Weather
(Both) Play immediately after opponent has moved but before combat. Contrary to his expectations, his General has only move two spaces - return him to the second space he entered.

Message from Rome:
PC at Gergovia
91 6/17/2025 4:37:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 36 2 Event #36: 2 / Diplomacy
(Both) Convert any one non-walled, non-tribal enemy PC Marker in a space without an enemy CU into a friendly PC Marker.

Message from Carthage:
90 6/17/2025 11:25:00 AM 217 BC Rome 17 1 Operations #17: 1 / Surprise Sortie
(Both) Remove 1 Siege Point from any one Walled City

Message from Rome:
flip Saldae to Roman PC
88 6/16/2025 9:22:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 13 2 Operations #13: 2 / Bruttium Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Lucania

Message from Carthage:
87 6/15/2025 5:50:00 PM 217 BC Rome 11 1 Operations #11: 1 / Balearic Slingers
(Both) If you control the Balearic Islands, place one CU in any Port containing a friendly PC and no enemy CUs.

Message from Rome:
activate Nero. Move with 8CU to Vescera, pick up 1.

move with 9 to Icosium, pick up 1.

end with 10 in Saldae
83 6/15/2025 3:33:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 10 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage #10 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
81 6/15/2025 11:41:00 AM 217 BC Rome 48 Reserve (use as any other card) Message from Rome #48 Reserve (use as any other card)

Message from Rome:
R2 match
80 6/14/2025 9:44:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 4 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage #4 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
78 6/13/2025 7:42:00 PM 217 BC Rome 5 Frontal Assault Message from Rome #5 Frontal Assault

Message from Rome:
R1 match
77 6/13/2025 5:58:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 8 Frontal Assault Message from Carthage #8 Frontal Assault

Message from Carthage:
72 6/12/2025 8:15:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 59 1 Event #59: 1 / Ally Deserts
(Both) Draw one BC from your opponent's hand and add it to your own.

Message from Carthage:
will play this as CC..any for you?
68 6/11/2025 9:10:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 61 1 Operations #61: 1 / Force March (1 rating)
(Both) Move a General whose Strategy Rating is 1 up to six spaces.

Message from Carthage:
66 6/10/2025 9:31:00 PM 217 BC Rome 26 3 Operations #26: 3 / Syracuse Allies with Carthage
(Carthage) You immediately gain control of Syracuse (any Roman units inside are eliminated. Syracuse provides a -1 modifier for Sea Movement

Message from Rome:
flip PCs at Icosium, Tupusuctu and Vescera
62 6/10/2025 5:27:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 27 2 Event #27: 2 / I have come into Italy ...
(Carthage) Play if Hannibal is in Italy. Convert two Roman non-walled PCs into Carthaginian PCs in any space in Italy which does not contain Roman CUs.

Message from Carthage:
57 6/9/2025 2:35:00 PM 217 BC Rome 37 3 Event #37: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Rome:
first activation is Nero.

Sail with 10CU to Icosium. I will wait for any responses from you before continuing moving
56 6/9/2025 8:29:00 AM 217 BC Carthage 45 2 Operations #45: 2 / Allied Auxiliaries (Etruria)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if ETRURIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:
mago to tarraco
54 6/7/2025 6:28:00 PM 217 BC Rome 40 3 Event #40: 3 / Minor Campaign
(Both) MOVE ANY TWO GENERALS. Each General can move up to four spaces with 10 combat units.

Message from Rome:
1st move is P. Scipio.

Move with 2CU to Falerii. Pick up 3CU there. End with 5 in Rome

Second move is Nero. Sail with 5CU to Rome.

I'll wait for any reaction from you before sending file.
52 6/7/2025 3:27:00 PM 217 BC Carthage 44 2 Operations #44: 2 / Allied Auxiliaries (Apulia)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if APULIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:
51 6/6/2025 4:07:00 PM 217 BC Rome 23 3 Event #23: 3 / Numidian Ally
(Rome) Place up to three Roman PCs in Eastern Numidia in spaces which do not contain enemy CUs. If the space contains a Carthaginian PC, the PC is simply flipped.

Message from Rome:
flip PCs at Sitilis, Cirta and Thamugadi
33 6/2/2025 1:46:00 PM 218 BC Rome 60 1 Operations #60: 1 / Storms At Sea
(Both) Play after your opponent moves an Army or CUs using Sea Movement. The force suffers Attrition and the die roll must be modified by +2.

Message from Rome:
PC at Tolosa
32 6/1/2025 6:41:00 PM 218 BC Carthage 2 3 Operations #2: 3 / Sicilia Revolts
(Both) If your opponent has control of Sicily, remove all his non-walled PCs in that province which are not stacked with his CUs.

Message from Carthage:
numantia/bilibis/verona

figured better to shore up support rather than have you replay a 2 or 3 op card there in sicily lol
31 6/1/2025 3:18:00 PM 218 BC Rome 58 1 Operations #58: 1 / Cato Counsels Rome
(Carthage) Roman CUs are prohibited from moving to Africa until the Strategy Deck is reshuffled. This does not affect Roman CUs already there.

Message from Rome:
that'a a great T1 card for Hannibal.

place PC at Gergovia
29 5/31/2025 8:50:00 PM 218 BC Carthage 14 2 Event #14: 2 / Ligurian Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Liguria, Cisalpinia or Etruria.

Message from Carthage:
well might as well recruit some locals after that disastrous crossing lol
28 5/30/2025 9:00:00 PM 218 BC Rome 16 2 Operations #16: 2 / Gallic Recruits
(Carthage) Place two Carthaginian CU's with any General located in Gallia Transalpinia or Cisalpinia

Message from Rome:
activate Longus, bringing 10CU and Scipio

move to Falerii and drop 3
back to Rome and pick up last 3
move to Ariminum
22 5/29/2025 9:03:00 PM 218 BC Carthage 42 1 Operations #42: 1 / Elephant Fright
(Rome) Play if attacked by elephants. They have no effect on you and the Carthaginian player immediately loses two BCs.

Message from Carthage:
hannibal crosses alps..
20 5/28/2025 12:01:00 AM 218 BC Rome 24 3 Operations #24: 3 / Sophonsiba Seduces a Numidian Kin
(Carthage) Pick either Western or Eastern Numidia and place up to three Carthaginian PCs in that province in spaces which do not contain enemy CUs. If the space contains a Roman PC, the PC is simply flipped.

Message from Rome:
Longus +5CU sail to Rome. I'll wait to see if you have any reaction before sending vlog.
18 5/27/2025 2:22:00 PM 218 BC Carthage 48 1 Operations #48: 1 / Allied Auxiliaries (Campania)
(Rome) Place two Roman CUs with any General in Italy if CAMPANIA is Roman controlled.

Message from Carthage:

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