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Time Turn Player Title Entry
2/17/2017 5:51:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Well, good luck and bye bye everyone
2/2/2017 5:45:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Is this game dead ?
Senators !
12/18/2016 11:11:00 PM 3 Moon Message Sorry, I am not sure many votes I have. But as no Senator in Shield is named nor none of mine, I cast all my votes against his slate.

I had 9 votes. Then I added C Gracchus [25B] to my faction for 7 more votes. Then I added one Knight to Cornelius [1B], making my total 17 votes.

I have no clue as to how many talents are on 25B, but I'll assume Shield does not want to trade any that I owe him for votes.
Shield is next to vote.
12/18/2016 1:20:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Proposing Furius of Wreath and Popillius of Hand for consuls.
Vote order :
Moon
Shield
Whreath
Hand
Eagle
12/14/2016 5:22:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Brilliant speech, unrest back to zero
12/14/2016 5:21:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

3
6
6

Total: 15

Message from Eagle:
Roll at+5
12/14/2016 5:20:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Fulvius card goes to Hand
12/14/2016 5:19:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Eagle:
Fulvius back ?
12/12/2016 10:08:00 AM 3 Hand Message That's it for me

Eagle needs to roll to revive Fulvius from the Curia (will go to Hand if succeeds

Then on to the speech
12/12/2016 10:05:00 AM 3 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Hand:
Of course I get a war card

Fulvius will spend 3T on a knight roll
12/12/2016 10:02:00 AM 3 Hand Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

REV / Sicilian Slave Revolt 135 BC

12/12/2016 10:02:00 AM 3 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Hand:
Bid money comes from Fabius

Initiative roll
12/12/2016 7:45:00 AM 3 Moon Message Wreath passed last time when the bid was 1, since it has been a couple days, I'll assume they pass with it being 5.

I pass as well. Hand wins the initiative with a bid of 5.
12/10/2016 1:40:00 AM 3 Shield Message Pass my pockets are not hat deep...
12/9/2016 11:05:00 PM 3 Moon Message Aaron/Shield is up to bid for initiative, current bid stands at 5T.

That is a lot to pay for a likely war card. Surely, we are do for one.

However, it is also a chance to attract knights and/or change faction leader.
12/8/2016 2:07:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Pass
12/5/2016 10:12:00 AM 3 Hand Message To speed us along a bit
Hand bids 5
12/4/2016 7:13:00 PM 3 Moon Message Chris/Hand bids next (Current Bid for Initiative is 2 by Moon).
12/3/2016 11:28:00 PM 3 Moon Message Bid 2
12/3/2016 8:32:00 PM 3 Wreath Message Pass
12/2/2016 10:35:00 AM 3 Hand Message Wreath is up
12/2/2016 2:14:00 AM 3 Shield Message Valerius of Shield bids 1
11/30/2016 1:57:00 PM 3 Hand Message Shield is up to bid on the final initiative
11/29/2016 5:15:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Pass
11/28/2016 2:33:00 PM 3 Hand Message We will spare the senate the pain of a persuasion attempt. No Faction leader change

I believe that is the last initiative. On to bidding for the final one starting with Eagle.
11/28/2016 2:30:00 PM 3 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Hand:
Julius will spend 3t and attempt to persuade a knight
11/28/2016 9:56:00 AM 3 Hand Message I would like to see the current board before deciding my next action

Thanks
11/28/2016 9:55:00 AM 3 Hand Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Hand's hand
11/28/2016 9:55:00 AM 3 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
4

Total: 5

Message from Hand:
Hand initiative
11/26/2016 10:15:00 PM 3 Moon Message No faction leader change. Chris/Hand is up.

Can we get map update to reflect the expenditures? Thanks.
11/26/2016 10:15:00 PM 3 Moon Message No faction leader change. Chris/Hand is up.

Can we get map update to reflect the expenditures? Thanks.
11/26/2016 10:12:00 PM 3 Moon Message +1 knight to Cornelius, now has 2.
11/26/2016 10:11:00 PM 3 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Moon:
Cornelius 1b will use his three remaining talents to attract a knight.
11/26/2016 10:04:00 PM 3 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4

Total: 7

Message from Moon:
Rolling the persuasion attempt, needing 2-9
11/25/2016 8:06:00 PM 3 Wreath Message I pass, apologies for the delay.
11/21/2016 5:20:00 PM 3 Moon Message Victor/Wreath is up.
11/19/2016 2:51:00 AM 3 Eagle Message Eagle offer still stands
11/18/2016 11:16:00 PM 3 Moon Message I am not sure if Wreath clearly indicated that they would not participate. I suppose we should let them confirm before I finally roll the persuasion attempt.
11/18/2016 11:16:00 PM 3 Moon Message I am not sure if Wreath clearly indicated that they would not participate. I suppose we should let them confirm before I finally role the persuasion attempt.
11/18/2016 8:10:00 AM 3 Shield Message Shield passes. So its now down to the roll....
11/17/2016 4:24:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Pass
11/15/2016 11:26:00 PM 3 Moon Message Hand is passing (earlier post), Eagle is up. Number stands at 9.
11/14/2016 5:50:00 PM 3 Moon Message Cornelius adds another 5T from his personal treasury, to get his persuasion number back to <=9 again.

He has 3T left in his treasury.
Still 5T in Moon Faction treasury.
11/14/2016 5:15:00 PM 3 Shield Message Would Moon like any further assistance from Shield on this persuasion attempt under the same conditions as prior loan?
11/14/2016 5:13:00 PM 3 Shield Message Shield stands corrected. And formally apologizes.

Eagle placed in 5T and has 2T remaining in faction treasury.

11/14/2016 2:14:00 AM 3 Shield Message Sorry Eagle - but
In turn one you put 2 T into Faction Treasury, in turn 2 you put 3T and in turn 3 you put 7T = 12T

This is reflected in the map and I have just gone through the log.
11/13/2016 3:52:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Had 15T in faction treasury when this started
11/12/2016 2:10:00 PM 3 Shield Message Hi

I have that Eagle only had 12T in faction treasury. By committing 5T that would be 13T committed to his senators defense.

Can you please all verify.
11/12/2016 9:26:00 AM 3 Eagle Message Any help to eagle faction will be repaid twice.
11/12/2016 9:07:00 AM 3 Moon Message Shield is up.
11/12/2016 9:06:00 AM 3 Hand Message In the interest for expediency, Hand will sit out all remaining rounds for this persuasion attempt
11/12/2016 5:05:00 AM 3 Eagle Message 5 more talents from treasury
11/10/2016 12:18:00 AM 3 Moon Message Eagles turn to increase his bid or pass.
11/10/2016 12:16:00 AM 3 Hand Message Sorry, I thought I sent out an email earlier when I didn't have access to ACTS

No action from Hand
11/10/2016 12:03:00 AM 3 Moon Message Waiting on Chris/Hand Faction.
11/3/2016 7:49:00 AM 3 Moon Message Hand's bid or pass.
11/3/2016 7:48:00 AM 3 Moon Message Senator Cornelius adds 5T from his personal treasury to get the number back to 9 or less.
11/3/2016 4:33:00 AM 3 Wreath Message Wreath passes.
11/2/2016 7:55:00 AM 3 Moon Message Wreath/Victor is up to join the bid, or pass.
11/2/2016 3:27:00 AM 3 Shield Message Shield passes this time round

11/2/2016 1:40:00 AM 3 Eagle Message Any contribution to help Gracchus brothers to stay together will be repaid next turn (with a bonus if possible), and Eagle votes and future consuls choices be in favor of the factions helping him.
11/1/2016 10:53:00 PM 3 Moon Message Eagles contribution of 5T brings the current state to DR <= 4.

Shield/Aaron, you are up to contribute more if you like.

Followed by Wreath/Victor.

Followed by Moon/myself.
11/1/2016 9:11:00 AM 3 Eagle Message 5T put from Faction treasury
11/1/2016 12:09:00 AM 3 Moon Message Eagle, back to you to add more to your Senator or take you chances that I roll high.
10/30/2016 2:10:00 PM 3 Hand Message Hand is staying out of this
10/29/2016 3:56:00 PM 3 Moon Message Since the number need stands at success with DR <= 9, which is the best possible, I will pass this time around. Hands turn to add to either side, or not.
10/29/2016 3:56:00 PM 3 Moon Message Since the number need stands at success with DR <= 9, which is the best possible, I will bass this time around. Hands turn to add to either side, or not.
10/29/2016 3:29:00 PM 3 Wreath Message Nor help.
10/29/2016 3:28:00 PM 3 Wreath Message Will not oppose.
10/27/2016 2:05:00 AM 3 Shield Message Shield likes and agrees to Moons proposal. Places 8T from faction treasury. This now makes the persuasion attempt back to a 9 or less. Over to Wreath
10/26/2016 6:48:00 PM 3 Moon Message If the Shield faction adds 8T to help assist the persuasion attempt in progress, Moon proposes the following terms:

1) Moon will replay the 8T (or as much possible, if less than 8T available) if successful, during the next Income phase during the redistribution step.

2) Furthermore, regardless of success, Moon will vote in favor of any pair of consuls that includes one, not two, of Shield's senators other than Porcius. (No promised votes for or against Porcius)

3) Shield will vote yes for any proposal to send C Gracchus (25b) as a governor.


10/26/2016 6:47:00 PM 3 Moon Message If the Shield faction adds 8T to help assist the persuasion attempt in progress, Moon proposes the following terms:

1) Moon will replay the 8T (or as much possible) if successful, during the next Income phase during the redistribution step.

2) Furthermore, regardless of success, Moon will vote in favor of any pair of consuls that includes one, not two, of Shield's senators other than Porcius. (No promised votes for or against Porcius)

3) Shield will vote yes for any proposal to send C Gracchus (25b) as a governor.


10/23/2016 5:26:00 PM 3 Moon Message OK, it is to shield to bid to aid or resist the persuasion attempt. Current number needed stands at 1.
10/23/2016 5:24:00 PM 3 Eagle Message C Gracchus gets 3T from Eagle faction treasury
10/23/2016 5:17:00 PM 3 Moon Message I guess you are right, I never realized the two worked the opposite of the others. OK, I need a 4 instead of a 10.
10/23/2016 5:12:00 PM 3 Eagle Message You don't read it well.
The brothers work the opposite way than Cato and Scipio. They want to be in the sale faction, so one brother has 0 loyalty only when the faction with the other brother tries to attract him.
So for now he has 13 loyalty value
10/23/2016 5:04:00 PM 3 Moon Message His brother is in the same faction, so his Loyalty is 0, not six. At least that is the way my map reads.
10/23/2016 4:59:00 PM 3 Eagle Message C. gracchus has 6 loyalty (+7 for being aligned). His loyalty is 0 only to a faction involving his brother.

Maybe you want to reconsider your attempt ? If not Eagle will react.
10/22/2016 2:44:00 PM 3 Moon Message Eagle up to defend against persuasion attempt, if they wish.
10/22/2016 2:43:00 PM 3 Hand Message Hand will not assist nor hinder the attempt
10/22/2016 2:40:00 PM 3 Moon Message 21 votes! Too much for one faction. I must try to correct that!

Senator Cornealius will attempt to persuade C Grachus/25b of the Eagle faction to join the Moon faction.

15 Inf + 2 Ora = 17.
- 0 (no T on 25b's card)
-7 for being aligned.

10 need to persuade him to join the moon faction. No money is being added as a bribe at this time (as it would not increase the change), might next time around add if anyone adds money to defend.

Hand is up to help him resist or pass.
10/22/2016 2:34:00 PM 3 Moon Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Moon's hand
10/22/2016 2:34:00 PM 3 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1

Total: 6

Message from Moon:
Initiative roll, card or event (7)
10/22/2016 10:45:00 AM 3 Hand Message I believe moon is up for initiative
10/21/2016 3:11:00 AM 3 Wreath Message That's me done.
10/21/2016 3:10:00 AM 3 Wreath Message Aelius spends 5T to attract a knight, auto-success.
10/21/2016 3:04:00 AM 3 Wreath Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Wreath's hand
10/21/2016 3:03:00 AM 3 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5

Total: 11

Message from Wreath:
initiative roll
10/20/2016 2:29:00 AM 3 Shield Message Over to Wreath for their initiative.

Map to follow.
10/20/2016 2:27:00 AM 3 Shield Message Porcius then spends 4 Gold using my factions +1 Knight attaraction bonus to auto attract a Knight. Giving him two Knights and raising Shields votes to 14.
10/20/2016 2:23:00 AM 3 Shield Message Valerius joins the Shield faction
10/20/2016 2:20:00 AM 3 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
4

Total: 9

Message from Shield:
Then a 9 or lower required

10/19/2016 4:44:00 PM 3 Eagle Message No opposition from Eagle faction
10/19/2016 1:46:00 PM 3 Hand Message Hand has no opposition to the persuasion either
10/19/2016 1:35:00 PM 3 Moon Message No opposition
10/17/2016 2:42:00 PM 3 Wreath Message I won't oppose the persuasion attempt.
10/17/2016 2:40:00 PM 3 Wreath Message Sorry guys, I'm back. I was in the middle of a house move and it took a lot longer than I thought it would.
10/16/2016 7:45:00 AM 3 Eagle Message Well, I think we are all waiting for Victor. Victor, are you still on ?
10/15/2016 1:34:00 PM 3 Shield Message Are we still playing this as its gone awfully quiet?
10/8/2016 11:11:00 PM 3 Moon Message Wreath/Victor, it is to you to oppose the persuasion attempt or pass.
10/3/2016 2:27:00 PM 3 Shield Message Porcius will try and persuade Valerius to join the Shield Faction.

Oratory 4 + Influence 12 + 3 Gold - 10 Loyalty = 9

Starting with Wreath any objections?
10/3/2016 2:22:00 PM 3 Shield Message Porcius pays 4T to auto attract a knight
10/3/2016 2:18:00 PM 3 Shield Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Shield's hand
10/3/2016 2:18:00 PM 3 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
2

Total: 5

Message from Shield:
Sorry for delay. Had a weekend of live ftf gaming.
9/30/2016 12:20:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Aaron / Shield up
9/28/2016 4:10:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Done
9/28/2016 4:09:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Eagle:
Cassius spends 3T to attract a knight.
Success on 3+
9/28/2016 4:04:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Allied Enthusiasm
9/28/2016 4:02:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

5
5
3

Total: 13

Message from Eagle:

9/28/2016 4:02:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
5

Total: 7

Message from Eagle:
Initiative roll
9/28/2016 10:32:00 AM 3 Hand Message I believe that should end the Revenue phase and takes us to the Forum Phase.

First up is Eagle.

Followed by:
Shield
Wreath
Moon
Hand

9/27/2016 10:06:00 AM 3 Wreath Message I will have spotty internet for about the next week or so, apologies in advance if I'm holding things up! I'm in the middle of moving.
9/27/2016 10:05:00 AM 3 Wreath Message Wreath collects 5(pontifex)+3(faction leader)+2(knights) and 2 from the two aligned senators, for a total of 12 talents. Assign 10T to Aelius.
9/25/2016 11:04:00 AM 3 Wreath Message Apologies, had an emergency come up, will return to playing tomorrow/Tuesday at latest.
9/21/2016 11:56:00 PM 3 Moon Message I believe only Wreath/Victor is left to do the Income phase.
9/18/2016 7:42:00 AM 3 Shield Message Updated map to be sent.
9/18/2016 7:40:00 AM 3 Shield Message Also Eagles Near Spain and Cisalpine Gaul governers return due to end of term.

Eagle now has 20, thats right 20 votes in the Senate!!

9/18/2016 7:37:00 AM 3 Shield Message Sicily improved - 3 Influence added to Terentius. Who now returns to the Forum too as his term is over too. Shield votes improve dramatically to 10 umm...
9/18/2016 7:34:00 AM 3 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Shield:
I forgot to try and improve Sicily. Needs a 6

9/17/2016 9:57:00 AM 3 Moon Message I think Wreath/Victor is the last to do the income phase.
9/17/2016 9:54:00 AM 3 Moon Message Note: If the #7 Family card leaves the Curia and enters the Forum, the cards goes to the Hand faction under his Statesman.
9/17/2016 9:34:00 AM 3 Moon Message Sardinia/Corsica improved.

C. Servilius Glaucia (#21A) has his Influence increased from 4 to 7. He returns to Rome as his term is complete. Sardinia/Corsica goes to the Forum for reassignment.

Mooon Income: 5T (Senators) + 1T (Knight) +2T (Tax Farmer) = 8. There was 8 in the Faction Treasury.

Place 5T in faction treasury and 13T on P. Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus Africanus (#1b).

With the return of C. Servilius Glaucia, the Moon vote count goes from 6 to 9 (10 on votes where the Priest counts).
9/17/2016 9:28:00 AM 3 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Moon:
Rome Treasury descreased by 4T.

Sardinia/Corsica improved on a 5 or 6.
9/17/2016 9:27:00 AM 3 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Moon:
State Income from Sardinia/Corsica. -dr-1.

No Personal Income taken.
9/17/2016 9:19:00 AM 3 Moon Message Manilius should have his Influence increased from 4 to 5 because of the Priest marker.
9/17/2016 4:20:00 AM 3 Shield Message Shield Income -
6T Senators + 2T from Knights + 4T from Sicily + 5T from Concession = 17T

8T to Porcius ( he now has 11T )
11T to faction Treasury

9/17/2016 4:12:00 AM 3 Shield Message Sicily raises 2 fleets

9/17/2016 4:11:00 AM 3 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Shield:
Terantius income from Sicily

9/17/2016 4:11:00 AM 3 Shield Message state gains 3

9/17/2016 4:10:00 AM 3 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
1

Total: 5

Message from Shield:
Sicily State income

9/14/2016 2:10:00 PM 3 Hand Message State receives 7t Total

Hand Revenue
3 (leader) + 5 (other senators) + 1 (knight) + 7 (provinces) = 16t

5t to Fabius
5t to Fulvius
6t to Faction Treasury


Further Spain raises 2 Armies
Illyricum raises raises 1 Army
9/14/2016 1:52:00 PM 3 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 4

6
2
4
3

Total: 15

Message from Hand:
Hand Revenue Phase:

State Income:
1st die:
Further Spain
dr -1

2nd die
Illyricum
dr

Personal Income
3rd die:
Further Spain
dr -1

4th die
Illyricum
dr +1
9/12/2016 1:32:00 PM 3 Eagle Message 10T to Cassius
6T to T. Sempronius Gracchus
7T to faction treasury

Flaminius transfers his 4T to T. Sempronius Gracchus
9/12/2016 1:24:00 PM 3 Eagle Message One army raised in Spain and one in Gaul with local ressources.

9/12/2016 1:23:00 PM 3 Eagle Message Revenue

3 (leader) + 4 (other senators) + 3 (knights) + 3 (concession) + 10 provinces = 23T

9/12/2016 1:20:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Total: 2

Message from Eagle:
5T from Gaul

Flaminius tries to develop Gaul. Success on 6
9/12/2016 1:19:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Eagle:
5T from Spain

Flaminius takes money from Gaul (dr-1)
9/12/2016 1:18:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Eagle:
7 (+1-1) = 7T to Rome

Aurelius takes money from Nearer Spain (dr +2)
9/12/2016 1:17:00 PM 3 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
3

Total: 7

Message from Eagle:
State income from Nearer Spain and Cisalpine Gaul
9/11/2016 5:03:00 PM 3 Hand Message I believe Licinius is a Late Republic Senator and is not in play yet.

On to the Revenue Phase then.
9/11/2016 4:59:00 PM 3 Hand Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Licinius

Message from Hand:
1 Mortality Chit to be drawn
9/11/2016 4:58:00 PM 3 Hand Die roll request Request: 36-sided die x 1

9

Total: 9

Message from Hand:
Reminder of what was done last turn, to determine how many mortality dice get picked:
1-30 - draw 1 chit (not the number of the actual dead senator, that would come from the "Draw Mortality Chit option on ACTS)
31-34 are "none." 35 and 36 are "draw 2."

Based on the die roll I will then draw mortality chits equal to the number drawn.
9/11/2016 4:56:00 PM 2 Hand End Turn
9/11/2016 12:39:00 PM 2 Eagle Message I think that ends the turn, right ?
9/11/2016 10:28:00 AM 2 Hand Play/Discard card STA / Fulvius Flaccus

Message from Hand:
Statesman card. No revolt in province
9/10/2016 10:16:00 PM 2 Moon Message Hand is up to play concessions and/or statesman. (or revolt in a province).
9/10/2016 10:14:00 PM 2 Moon Play/Discard card STA / Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus

Message from Moon:
Cornelius Statesman in play, Influence and Popularity values take the greater value for each between current and what is on the statesman card.
9/10/2016 10:34:00 AM 2 Eagle Message So Field consul brings back 50T to rome and Asia province is created
9/10/2016 9:31:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Pass
9/10/2016 6:33:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Wreath up for revolution phase, as Eagle and Shield already played.
9/10/2016 6:32:00 AM 2 Eagle Message I guess that we can consider that Senate is closed now and continue on with revolution phase
9/10/2016 6:29:00 AM 2 Eagle Message In my version of the rules it is written "must" instead of "may". But I'm ok if we pay with your version of the rules.
9/10/2016 3:47:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Just pointing out that according to my reading of the rules, it's not mandatory for me to appoint someone as a priest....but this turn I will choose to do so.

PM assigns a priesthood to Cornelius of Moon.

2.01.3 PRIESTHOODS: During the Senate Phase of each game turn the Pontifex Maximus may assign or reassign a Priesthood to any one Senator present, unless there are none left without one. He may not assign or reassign a Priest to himself.
9/6/2016 1:54:00 AM 2 Eagle Message OK. Is a tribune eager to speak ?
By the way, the Pontex Maximus should nominate or reallocate a Priest office.
9/6/2016 1:49:00 AM 2 Shield Message No cards to play
9/6/2016 1:39:00 AM 2 Shield Message Hi All

As a point of order, taking into account the method we are playing, surely before the Senate is closed he HROR should see if anyone wanted to play a tribune to put a motion to the senate.
9/5/2016 6:52:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Shield / Aaron next
9/5/2016 6:51:00 PM 2 Eagle Play/Discard card CON / Harbor Fees

Message from Eagle:
C. Sempronius Gracchus is awarded a new concession
9/5/2016 6:50:00 PM 2 Eagle Give Strategy card to Shield Message from Eagle:
9/5/2016 6:48:00 PM 2 Eagle Give Strategy card to Moon Message from Eagle:
9/5/2016 6:13:00 PM 2 Moon Message Starting with Eagle (HRAO), we play concessions/stateman cards and/or give red cards to another player. Any excess of 5 red cards would need to be discarded, if not given away.
9/5/2016 6:13:00 PM 2 Moon Message Starting with Eagle (HRAO), we play concessions/stateman cards and/or give them to another player. Any excess of 5 would need to be discarded, if not given away.
9/5/2016 6:12:00 PM 2 Moon Message Starting with Eagle (HRAO), we play red cards and/or give them to another player. Any excess of 5 would need to be discarded, if not given away.
9/5/2016 5:26:00 PM 2 Eagle Message I meant Senate is adjourned
9/5/2016 5:23:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Hmm, have I forgotten something ?
9/5/2016 5:07:00 PM 2 Shield Message Field Consul leaves surely and it's not the end of the Senate phase, not sure what Eagle is on about....
9/5/2016 4:56:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes (15 votes).

Rome consul leaves.

End of the senate phase.
9/5/2016 3:15:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes with 11 votes.
9/4/2016 4:00:00 PM 2 Shield Message Shield votes yes with 9 votes

9/4/2016 3:56:00 PM 2 Hand Message Hand votes yes with all, I think 10 votes. It's been awhile since I've seen the board
9/4/2016 12:37:00 AM 2 Moon Message Yes with 6 votes
8/30/2016 3:12:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes with 15 votes. New legions and fleets join Rome's army.

T. Sempronius Gracchus stands again before the Senate :

" Senators,
I propose to send Field Consul Papirius to Pergame with 3 legions and 3 fleets to bring to Rome the Bequest and create a new province."

Vote order :
Moon
Hand
Shield
Wreath
Eagle

8/30/2016 2:21:00 PM 2 Shield Message Shield votes yes with 9 votes
8/30/2016 3:04:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes with 11 votes.
8/29/2016 7:52:00 PM 2 Hand Message Hand votes yes with 10 votes ...
Wreath is up
8/29/2016 6:33:00 PM 2 Moon Message 6 Votes yes.

Hand next.
8/27/2016 1:24:00 AM 2 Eagle Message T. Sempronius Gracchus stands up.

"The enemies of the Republic are quiet now. But barbarians and rebels can soon become a threat. Rome must be ready to react and protect the Republic if any of them creates trouble on our borders or within our territories.

I propose that Rome raises 6 legions and 2 fleets while recruitment is easy. "

Vote order:
Moon
Hand
Wreath
Shield
Eagle
8/27/2016 1:16:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes with 15 votes.
Type 1 Land Bill passed. Rome consul gets 2 POP and Manlius 1 POP
8/26/2016 7:12:00 PM 2 Moon Message Board Correction: C Servilius Glaucia should have three Influence, not two, because the rules say that a Statesman take the family card's influence if in play and higher.

The only time card #21A has 2 influence is if the family card had been reduced (prosecution) or if the family card was hot in play at the time.
8/26/2016 7:03:00 PM 2 Moon Message Moon, 6 yes.
8/26/2016 2:56:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes with 11 votes.
8/25/2016 4:49:00 PM 2 Shield Message Shield votes yes with 9 votes
8/25/2016 8:05:00 AM 2 Hand Message Hand votes yes with 10 votes
8/25/2016 2:16:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes with 15 votes.
Junius leaves for Illyricum.

Now we get back to the Land Bill proposal.

Manlius of Moon is co-sponsor.

Vote order :
Hand
Shield
Wreath
Moon
Eagle
8/25/2016 1:34:00 AM 2 Shield Message Shield votes no with 9 votes
8/24/2016 9:11:00 AM 2 Hand Message Fabius of Hand begins to stand and address the body, reaches for his son to support him while nursing a wound in his left leg he received from the great battles against the Sicilian Salve Revolts.

Fabius speaks, "We thank our esteemed colleague of Moon for remembering so vividly my recent post as Field Consul. I can understand that all these people in the senate hall can be confusing to such a senior member of the senate. Our friend Junius put his name forward after a call went out asking for nominations and none came forward, granted Moon begrudgingly offered Manlius after Junius had approached the Rome Consul privately. Illyricum will be no picnic to govern, it can be attacked by 3 separate wars, yet Junius will take it on with the strength and spirit of Rome.

Fabius, using his son with support, sits

Hand votes in favor with 12 votes
8/24/2016 7:14:00 AM 2 Moon Message (I guess it would help if i copy the current map to my desktop instead of opening one from about 8/8. However, the Veto used still needs to be removed from Wreath).

Gentlemen, forgive the aged Cornelius. He forgot who the Field Consul was.
8/24/2016 2:05:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Order in the Senate !
I remind the House that the Field Consul is from Wreath faction, not Hand.

Hand faction to vote.

8/24/2016 12:21:00 AM 2 Moon Message Moon votes 6 votes against.

Hand already has 25 Infl, loads of money, and another developed province. With the money they rake in they will buy the whole senate.

Hand stands for Hand in the Pocket of all Romans.

Hand will control a Field Consul collecting 50T. If they keep it in rebellion, they will be well funded to maintain the rebellion (with two developed provinces that they can keep milking for money).

This is a very dangerous nomination.

Vote with me against this to save the republic.
8/23/2016 4:20:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes with 11 votes
8/23/2016 8:20:00 AM 2 Moon Message All this peace is a bit of an issue. Rome's outside enemies are brewing and I fear we may get multiple wars at once as they are diplomatically waiting to strikes us from multiple directions.

I suggest raising troops in case a manpower shortage occurs the turn we need a bunch of legions.

I will support such a measure. Better to pay maintenance than double cost to hire mercenaries!

8/23/2016 7:54:00 AM 2 Eagle Message A candidate for Illyricum finally emerged.

I propose Junius of Hand for Illyricum.

Vote order :
Wreath
Moon
Hand
Shield
Eagle
8/23/2016 7:49:00 AM 2 Moon Message I guess if no one else wants it, you can nominate Manilius to take over the seat of his departed friend.
8/23/2016 1:18:00 AM 2 Eagle Message OK, we will come back to this later.

So, do we have any candidate for Illyricum ?
8/23/2016 12:59:00 AM 2 Moon Message Motion aborted, provinces must be filled first - Senators sent to provinces will not vote on upcoming proposals.
8/21/2016 10:27:00 PM 2 Moon Message Moon votes yes with 6 votes.
8/21/2016 1:15:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes with 11 votes.
8/21/2016 9:56:00 AM 2 Eagle Message T. Sempronius Gracchus sponsors a type I landbill.
Senator Junius of Hand will co-sponsor.

Vote order :
Wreath
Moon
Shield
Hand
Eagle
8/21/2016 7:02:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Rome Consul asks his fellow senators interested by Illyricum to declare themselves.
8/21/2016 1:20:00 AM 2 Moon Play/Discard card INT / Tribune

Message from Moon:
Veto the prosecution
8/21/2016 1:16:00 AM 2 Moon Message What Senator is consenting to be prosecutor?
8/20/2016 1:43:00 PM 2 Wreath Message I just had a look at the map update from Aaron and would like to point out that Pontifex veto has not been used this turn (the marker just stayed on from turn 1 when it was used).
8/20/2016 10:34:00 AM 2 Hand Message Junius of Hand calls for a vote on the Major Prosecution of Cornelius of Moon's abuse of the Censor post:

Vote order:
Moon
Wreath
Eagle
Hand
Shield
8/19/2016 6:47:00 PM 2 Shield Message A major prosecution
8/19/2016 2:02:00 PM 2 Eagle Message *remark to the Censor : please state if it's a minor or a major prosecution
8/19/2016 1:57:00 PM 2 Shield Message Porcius rises and addresses the Senate.

I would like to bring Cornelius of Moon to trial for his misuse of the Censorship last year.

I call upon Junius of Hand to be the prosecutor.
8/19/2016 12:45:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Eagle vote yes.

Porcius is now Censor and has the floor.
8/19/2016 12:30:00 PM 2 Shield Message Shield votes yes with 9 votes
8/19/2016 3:01:00 AM 2 Wreath Message WIth 11 votes...
8/19/2016 3:00:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes.
8/18/2016 11:47:00 AM 2 Moon Message Wreath votes next.
8/18/2016 11:47:00 AM 2 Moon Message Moon votes 6 against.
8/18/2016 8:21:00 AM 2 Hand Message Hand votes yea with 12 votes
8/18/2016 3:13:00 AM 2 Eagle Message T. Sempronius Gracchus now proposes Sen. Porcius of Shield for censorship.

Vote order :

Hand
Moon
Wreath
Shield
Eagle
8/18/2016 3:13:00 AM 2 Eagle Message T. Sempronius Gracchus now proposes Sen. Porcius of Shield for censorship.

Vote order :

Hand
Moon
Wreath
Shield
Eagle
8/18/2016 2:25:00 AM 2 Eagle Message After a long internal debate, Eagle senators decide to abstain.
Motion is rejected.
8/18/2016 1:31:00 AM 2 Shield Message Shield votes 9 against.

So currently we are at 20 Votes for and 21 against with Eagle faction to vote.
8/17/2016 2:31:00 PM 2 Hand Message Hand Votes NO with 12 Votes

Shield is up
8/17/2016 2:23:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes with 11 votes.
8/16/2016 7:01:00 PM 2 Moon Message 9 votes to approve Cornelius as Censor (adding the three gold that is on my senators).

FYI: Players should indicate the number of votes. It makes a lot easier for others to vote when they do not have the map up (using a phone or a computer different from where their board might be)

Wreath votes next.
8/16/2016 6:27:00 PM 2 Wreath Message I agree to the consul allocations.
8/16/2016 8:34:00 AM 2 Moon Message Wreath has not agreed yet to the division of consulship. Wreath must agree, otherwise a roll off must be done.
8/16/2016 2:37:00 AM 2 Shield Message Cornelius really? That puts too much influence with one man...just saying!
8/16/2016 2:35:00 AM 2 Shield Message Maybe I should check the rules before I open my mouth. Rule 9.4 says a Censor can succeed himself. Ignore prior message.
8/16/2016 2:27:00 AM 2 Shield Message From a rules point of view is Cornelius is a legal option. As I understand the rules you cannot be nominated for an office if you currently hold one. Currently Cornelius is Censor. I thought the only options for this office this turn were Fabius and Porcius.
8/16/2016 12:41:00 AM 2 Eagle Message T. Sempronius stands up.

Senators, I propose that Senator Cornelius keeps the Censorship.

Vote order will be :

Moon
Wreath
Hand
Shield
Eagle
8/15/2016 4:35:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Consuls announce :
- T Sempronius will be Rome Consul
- Papirius will be Field Consul
8/15/2016 2:12:00 AM 2 Shield Message Shield votes yes

The two newly elected Consuls need to determine which role they are to pursue.
8/14/2016 11:56:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes
8/14/2016 5:56:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes
8/14/2016 9:23:00 AM 2 Moon Message Moon votes yes with all 6 votes.
8/14/2016 9:17:00 AM 2 Hand Message Hand votes yes
8/14/2016 7:31:00 AM 2 Shield Message Porcius rises to the Senate floor and proposes the following as the next Consuls -

The popular T. Sempronius Gracchus of Eagle and Papirius of Wreath.

The vote order will be -

Hand
Moon
Wreath
Eagle
Shield
8/12/2016 2:04:00 AM 2 Shield Message Porcius fluffs his speech, the crowd grow restless. Unrest increased by 2

The Senate is open

8/12/2016 2:03:00 AM 2 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

4
2
3

Total: 9

Message from Shield:
Porcius speech to the people

No modifiers
8/12/2016 2:01:00 AM 2 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Shield:
Valerius returns on a 5 or 6

8/12/2016 2:00:00 AM 2 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1

Total: 1

Message from Shield:
Fulvius return to Senate on a 5 or 6

8/12/2016 1:58:00 AM 2 Shield Message Thats the end of the forum phase

8/11/2016 2:58:00 PM 2 Eagle Message A second knight joins C. Sempronius.
Eagle faction done.


8/11/2016 2:57:00 PM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Eagle:
C. Sempronius spends 1T and tries to attract a knight
8/11/2016 2:54:00 PM 2 Eagle Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Eagle's hand
8/11/2016 2:54:00 PM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
2

Total: 8

Message from Eagle:
Initiative roll
8/11/2016 8:19:00 AM 2 Hand Message I believe Wreath has no money and Cornelius of Moon only has 2T so cannot beat the bid of 4T

I will pass on that and allow Eagle to take it with 4T
8/10/2016 2:12:00 PM 2 Shield Message Thats a bit rich for me. Pass.
8/10/2016 1:36:00 AM 2 Eagle Message C. Sempronius bids 4T
8/9/2016 5:42:00 PM 2 Hand Message Julius bids 3t

Eagle is up
8/9/2016 5:37:00 PM 2 Moon Message Cornelius should still have to, therefore bid two.
8/9/2016 5:37:00 PM 2 Moon Message Cornelius should still have to, therefore bid to.
8/9/2016 10:27:00 AM 2 Hand Message I could be wrong but since Wreath has no money on a Senator and therefore cannot bid on the last initiative, It is Moon's turn to bid

Current bid is 1t from Shield
8/8/2016 6:37:00 PM 2 Moon Message On second thought, I think I am wrong on this: I think the senator who does the persuasion attempt is the only one who can attract knights for that initiative.

8/8/2016 6:28:00 PM 2 Moon Message I think the senator who does the persuasion attempt is the only one who can attract knights for that initiative.

8/8/2016 2:06:00 AM 2 Shield Message Porcius of Shield bids 1T for the remaining initiative
8/7/2016 10:37:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Shield / Aaron is up
8/7/2016 10:36:00 AM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Eagle:
C. Sempronius Gracchus spends 3T for a knight
8/7/2016 10:31:00 AM 2 Eagle Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Eagle's hand
8/7/2016 10:31:00 AM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
5

Total: 6

Message from Eagle:
Initiative roll
8/7/2016 10:00:00 AM 2 Hand Message Julius gets his knight,
No faction leader change

Hand is done

Eagle is up
8/7/2016 9:59:00 AM 2 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Hand:
Julius will spend 3T and roll for a knight

Succeeds on a roll of 3 or more
8/7/2016 9:58:00 AM 2 Hand Message By better of course I meant less than 8.
The persuasion succeeds and Junius joins Hand
8/7/2016 9:52:00 AM 2 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
2

Total: 6

Message from Hand:
Persuasion roll

succeeds on a 8 or better
8/7/2016 12:16:00 AM 2 Moon Message Hand may roll his Persuasion attempt.
8/7/2016 12:15:00 AM 2 Moon Message Well, I have no grudge against the Hand faction. There Senator Fabius did his duty in our recent war, so no bid to oppose the persuasion attempt.
8/6/2016 2:20:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Wreath will not oppose the persuasion attempt.
8/6/2016 2:01:00 PM 2 Shield Message Shield does not oppose the recruitment attempt
8/6/2016 12:16:00 PM 2 Eagle Message No counterpersuasion from Eagle
8/6/2016 9:31:00 AM 2 Hand Message That's true, that's what I get for copying your previous post ... sorry

8/6/2016 9:28:00 AM 2 Moon Message The map shows Fabius with no personal treasury, so he cannot bid if anyone adds defense.
8/6/2016 9:25:00 AM 2 Hand Message I guess it is my turn to try and persuade poor Julius

Senator Fabius will attempt to persuade Senator unaligned Junius to join the Hand faction.

Inf 14 + Ora 2 - Loyalty 8 = 8.

We now go around and bid to oppose it. If it comes back to me, I can bid to add money if someone bids to oppose it. Initially, I bid nothing, needing a base 8.

Bidding is in Board Order: Eagle, Shield, Wreath, Moon.

I will attempt to attract a knight after the Persuasion attempt.
8/6/2016 9:19:00 AM 2 Hand Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Hand's hand
8/6/2016 9:19:00 AM 2 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5

Total: 11

Message from Hand:
Initiative roll

8/6/2016 8:45:00 AM 2 Moon Message No faction leader change, so Chris/Hand is up next.
8/6/2016 8:44:00 AM 2 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Moon:
Cornelius will spend 2T to try to attract a knight 4+ needed.
8/6/2016 8:42:00 AM 2 Moon Message According to the rules, any original number >= 10 automatically fails, so the target senator does not join the moon faction.


8/6/2016 8:40:00 AM 2 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
6

Total: 10

Message from Moon:
Resolving persuasion attempt, 10 or less is the number.
8/6/2016 5:19:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Nope, wreath will not oppose the persuasion attempt.
8/5/2016 8:55:00 AM 2 Moon Message wreath any money to oppose my persuasion attempt?
8/4/2016 11:21:00 AM 2 Shield Message No objection or bribe from Shield Faction
8/4/2016 11:09:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Neither from Eagle
8/4/2016 10:05:00 AM 2 Hand Message No counter bribes from me
8/4/2016 9:21:00 AM 2 Moon Message Note: all bribes go on to the senator card being bribed after the resolution. So if aligned, I would get the money back. If he remains unaligned, that adds to his loyalty to resist future attempts.
8/4/2016 9:19:00 AM 2 Moon Message Senator Cornelius will attempt to persuade Senator unaligned Junius to join the Moon faction.

Inf 15 + Ora 3 - Loyalty 8 = 10.

We now go around and bid to oppose it. If it comes back to me, I can bid to add money if someone bids to oppose it. Initially, I bid nothing, needing a base 10.

Bidding is in Board Order: Hand, Eagle, Shield, Wreath.

I will attempt to attract a knight after the Persuasion attempt.


8/4/2016 9:07:00 AM 2 Moon Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Moon's hand
8/4/2016 9:07:00 AM 2 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
6

Total: 11

Message from Moon:
Initiative Roll, event on a 7
8/4/2016 9:06:00 AM 2 Moon Message You confusion was understandable, the rules were one of major criticism of the original version of the game.

Here are the cards that make a persuasion attempt unopposed (which the rules do not clearly define):

Blackmail ER/1 No Talents may be spent to defend against your current Persuasion
Attempt. Talents already on the target still count. If it fails, the target
Senatorís Influence and Popularity are each reduced by a DR. Influence

Seduction ER/1 Your faction Leader seduces the wife of another Senator. No Talents may
be spent to defend against your current Persuasion Attempt. Talents
already on the target still count.


Note: This cards say talents cannot be spent to defend against the attempt, they can be spent to help it (by the attempting Senator only from his personal treasury). Other players can only oppose it and only from faction treasury.
8/4/2016 8:52:00 AM 2 Moon Message Aaron is correct, there are cards that can be played to make a persuasion attempt 'unopposed'.
8/4/2016 6:31:00 AM 2 Shield Message Hi All

Okay back on home PC. An unopposed Persuasion attempt comes about via cards such as blackmail.

So we all should have been allowed to oppose or assist the persuasion attempt, which allows for deals o be made of course.

However happy to let the result stand,
8/4/2016 2:58:00 AM 2 Eagle Message Just read it. You're perfectly right. No counter-persuasion was allowed so everythink is just fine !
8/4/2016 2:30:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Ah, sorry guys, I thought based on my reading of the rules that if you try a persuasion attempt with no bribe, there is no possibility of other players counterbribing, which the rules (7.513) call an Unopposed Persuasion attempt.
8/4/2016 2:00:00 AM 2 Eagle Message OK here as well
8/3/2016 8:09:00 PM 2 Moon Message I am OK for letting the result stand.
8/3/2016 7:36:00 PM 2 Hand Message I think since it failed we could leave it at that. Unless we want to give him another shot.

Going forward however, I think we should allow the other players time to counter bribe.
8/3/2016 6:40:00 PM 2 Moon Message What shall we do about Wreath's persuasion attempt that failed? Leave it at that? Technically, he should have let each of us have a turn to oppose it. Even unaligned senators can be given money to defend against persuasion attempts.
8/3/2016 4:55:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Ah well, persuasion attempt against Junius fails, so Furius spends his 5T to get a knight (no roll required). That's it for me.
8/3/2016 4:52:00 PM 2 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
6

Total: 10

Message from Wreath:
Aelius (7 influence + 4 oratory = 11) attempts to persuade Junius (8 loyalty) to join, 11-8=3, succeeds on a roll of 2 or 3.
8/3/2016 3:46:00 PM 2 Wreath Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

SEN / Junius

8/3/2016 3:45:00 PM 2 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
1

Total: 3

Message from Wreath:
Forum roll
8/3/2016 1:35:00 PM 2 Shield Message over to Wreath
8/3/2016 1:33:00 PM 2 Shield Message Sulpicius will go for an auto Knight.

I have +1 drm due to the law I played. So if Sulpicius pays 4T then there would be no need for a roll.
8/3/2016 1:30:00 PM 2 Shield Message No Persuasion attempts
8/3/2016 1:28:00 PM 2 Shield Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Shield's hand
8/3/2016 1:28:00 PM 2 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
4

Total: 6

Message from Shield:
My Forum roll
8/3/2016 1:28:00 PM 2 Shield Message Forum Phase

In the order of
Shield
Wreath
Moon
Hand
Eagle
Free to bid on
8/2/2016 8:27:00 AM 2 Hand Message Sorry third roll was a mistake

Hand's Revenue distributions
State receives 0T from Further Spain
Hand receives 4t from Further Spain
Hand receives 3T for FL, 3t for Aligned Senators, 1t from Knight
Total 11t
Place 8t on Julius
Rest to Faction Treasury
8/2/2016 8:20:00 AM 2 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

1
3
2

Total: 6

Message from Hand:
First roll - State Income from Further Spain (dr-1)
Second roll - Personal Income from Further Spain (dr+1)
8/2/2016 8:15:00 AM 2 Moon Message Add the 3T (Hand/Shield) to my Faction Treasury. I think any money given has to go to the other faction's treasury. Giving money directly to a senator would be blatant corruption.

Think of my faction treasury as the Moon Monetary Foundation for the Betterment of Romans. Well, perhaps a few specific Romans.
8/2/2016 3:02:00 AM 2 Shield Message So I have 5T on Furius and 8T in faction treasury, for Wreath.
8/2/2016 2:56:00 AM 2 Wreath Message Correction, 5T on Furius, rest into faction pot.
8/2/2016 2:52:00 AM 2 Wreath Message That is correct, rest into faction treasury.
8/2/2016 2:32:00 AM 2 Eagle Message ... Or not ! Discard my last message. Mixed DR and TDR ....
8/2/2016 2:30:00 AM 2 Eagle Message I think DR means 3 dices, so Sicily should roll a third dice for the state.
8/2/2016 1:59:00 AM 2 Shield Message Need to know where Moon places the 3t from Shield and Hand fiscal policies.
8/2/2016 1:57:00 AM 2 Shield Message Local taxes in Sicily spent to raise local forces to 4A and 2F
8/2/2016 1:56:00 AM 2 Shield Message Shield gains 19T

3T to Moon faction as agreed.
13T to Porcius
3T to faction Treasury

Then Porcius donates 10T to the state to gain 1 Influence. This is the none profit proclamation made by the Shield faction regarding the drought and grain concession.

State now on 148T
8/2/2016 1:44:00 AM 2 Shield Message 7T to Rome

8/2/2016 1:43:00 AM 2 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
5

Total: 9

Message from Shield:
State Income from Sicily
8/2/2016 1:43:00 AM 2 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Shield:
Development roll for Sicily - needs a 6

8/2/2016 1:38:00 AM 2 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Total: 2

Message from Shield:
Personal Income from Sicily
8/2/2016 1:37:00 AM 2 Shield Message Shield Revenue phase.
Plautius - 3T (FL) + 1T (Kn) + 10T (Grain) -2 Pop
Others = 3T

= 17 T so far
8/2/2016 1:31:00 AM 2 Shield Message I am updating map as I go through the log. Just for clarity, Wreath placed 3T on Furius. The rest? I assume Faction Treasury. Is this correct?
8/1/2016 10:01:00 PM 2 Moon Message -7T to State Treasury.

Sardinia-Corsica is not developed.
8/1/2016 10:00:00 PM 2 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
2

Total: 8

Message from Moon:
First Die State Income for Sardinia-Corisca. -dr-1.

Second Die, develop Sardinia-Corisca, 5+ needed, no personal income taken.

Faction Incomme: 5 for Senators/FL, +2 Tax Farmer 5. 7T with 1T on Manilius, 4T on Cornelius, 2T to Faction Treasure, now 5T.
8/1/2016 5:21:00 PM 2 Wreath Message Wreath collects 5(pontifex)+3(faction leader)+1(knight) from Aelius and 2 from the two aligned senators, for a total of 11 talents. Assign 3T to Furius.
8/1/2016 5:12:00 PM 2 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Wreath:
Pontifex rolling for temple income = dr
8/1/2016 2:05:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Sorry my first message was not clear with one parenthesis wrongly placed. Last message is clear enough I hope.

Last thing : one army raised in Cisalpine Gaul using local taxes (1/0 now)
8/1/2016 2:02:00 PM 2 Eagle Message So Eagle faction gets 15T overall (8+4+3) and Rome 8T.

Flaminius retains 4T.
Caius Sempronius Gracchus retains 8T.
Rest (3T) goes to the party treasure.
8/1/2016 1:57:00 PM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Eagle:
That last roll was for Flaminius, who gets 3T from Gaul.

He will try to develop the Region nonetheless. Success on a 6.
8/1/2016 1:56:00 PM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Eagle:
4T for Aurelius, who also uses local taxes for one additional army (2/0 now)
8/1/2016 1:55:00 PM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Total: 2

Message from Eagle:
8T for Rome
Now Aurelius takes money in Nearer Spain
8/1/2016 1:54:00 PM 2 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6

Total: 8

Message from Eagle:
First, Rome income from Nearer Spain and Cisalpine Gaul
8/1/2016 1:53:00 PM 2 Eagle Message Eagle faction gets 8T (3+1 T Gracchus), + 1 for each of the 4 other senators.
In addition, Governors will take some money as well.
8/1/2016 9:19:00 AM 2 Hand Message State gets +100
Spends 32 Talents on 15 Legions and 1 Fleet
Spends 20 Talents on Type I Land Bill
Turn 2 Revenue = +48 Talents

Previous State Revenue = 82 + Turn 2 Revenue 48 = 130 Talents

I'm very busy this AM so if everyone wants to declare their own Revenue, Governor actions etc. I don't think we need to do this in any order.

Guy will correct me if I am wrong ;)
8/1/2016 9:19:00 AM 2 Hand Message Fulvius of Moon dies, Illyricum returns to the Forum
8/1/2016 9:05:00 AM 2 Hand Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Fulvius

Message from Hand:
Roll of 23 gets us 'Draw 1' Mortality chit
8/1/2016 9:05:00 AM 2 Hand Die roll request Request: 36-sided die x 1

23

Total: 23

Message from Hand:
I realized that the "draw mortality chits" option on ACTS does not have the "draw none" or "draw two" options that you get from the actual game so I think we should do a dice roll to determine how many mortality dice get picked:
1-30 - draw 1 chit (not the number of the actual dead senator, that would come from the "Draw Mortality Chit option on ACTS)
31-34 are "none." 35 and 36 are "draw 2."

Based on the die roll I will then draw mortality chits equal to the number drawn. Sound good?

If anyone doesn't like this idea, we can scrap it and just draw 1 chit from the Mortality Chit each Mortality Phase.
8/1/2016 8:58:00 AM 1 Hand End Turn
7/31/2016 4:34:00 PM 1 Eagle Message I think we can move to Turn 2
7/30/2016 12:59:00 PM 1 Eagle Play/Discard card STA / C. Sempronius Gracchus

Message from Eagle:
Caius joins his brother's party.
No other business
7/30/2016 12:02:00 PM 1 Hand Message Nothing from Hand

Fabius does not revolt
7/30/2016 9:22:00 AM 1 Moon Message No further activity.

Thank you wreath for keeping your word.
7/30/2016 8:29:00 AM 1 Wreath Message I have no further activity.
7/30/2016 8:28:00 AM 1 Wreath Give Strategy card to Moon Message from Wreath:
As promised
7/30/2016 8:27:00 AM 1 Wreath Give Strategy card to Eagle Message from Wreath:
As promised
7/30/2016 7:10:00 AM 1 Shield Message Revolution Phase

HRAO - declares first then Wreath, Moon, Hand, Eagle

I have no activity this phase.
7/29/2016 4:50:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Correction. We had drought from event roll + drought from slaves revolt. So if I'm not wrong we go back to lvl1 drought.
7/29/2016 4:44:00 PM 1 Eagle Message *drought
7/29/2016 4:44:00 PM 1 Eagle Message And droight gone
7/29/2016 4:37:00 PM 1 Eagle Message I think unrest gets -1 from victory
7/29/2016 4:29:00 PM 1 Hand Message Unless anyone sees an error
On to the Revolution phase
7/29/2016 4:28:00 PM 1 Hand Message 9 + Modified TDR of 11 = 20

Victory no Losses

Fabius gets 4 Pop and Inf
State gets 1 Vet Legion
Fabius gets an Allegiance of the Vet Legion
7/29/2016 4:25:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

4
1
4

Total: 9

Message from Hand:
Roll for the Sicilian Slave Revolt.
Disaster on a 7
Standoff on a 15
7/29/2016 3:57:00 PM 1 Shield Message I was waiting for a declaration from all players to agree to the closing of the Senate, but its now closed.

On to the combat phase.
7/29/2016 2:52:00 PM 1 Hand Message I am just waiting for Shield to officially close the Senate session before I roll for the war.
7/28/2016 2:34:00 PM 1 Hand Message No business from Hand Faction. we are itching to get to that war ...
7/28/2016 2:30:00 PM 1 Shield Message Shield votes yes

Passed. I believe the State pays the bill of 20T in the revenue phase.

Any other business?
7/28/2016 8:32:00 AM 1 Hand Message Hand votes yes
7/28/2016 8:19:00 AM 1 Moon Message Yes, with 5 votes.
7/27/2016 4:46:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes
7/27/2016 4:33:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes Yes
7/27/2016 4:09:00 PM 1 Shield Message The vote order for a type I Land bill which costs the State 20T will be

Eagle
Wreath
Moon
Hand
Shield

7/27/2016 1:28:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Rome consul to set vote order
7/27/2016 1:16:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Papirius accepts, the PM assigns a priesthood to Senator Cassius of the Eagle faction.
7/27/2016 12:33:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Senator T Sempronius Gracchus stands and proposes Senator Papirius of Wreath as co-sponsor for a type 1 Land Bill.

Does Papirius accept ?


7/27/2016 2:50:00 AM 1 Eagle Message I think the PM must assign or reassign a priesthood
7/27/2016 2:39:00 AM 1 Shield Message I would like to remind the Ponifix that he can assign a Priest.

I would also like to ask the remaining members of the Senate if they have anything else to add before i close this session of the Senate.
7/27/2016 2:37:00 AM 1 Shield Message Shield votes yes.

Fabius marches from Rome with his 14 legions.
One Fleet in support.

One Legion sent to garrison Sicily.


7/27/2016 2:30:00 AM 1 Wreath Message Wreath votes YES
7/26/2016 3:13:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes
7/26/2016 2:26:00 PM 1 Moon Message Yes, with five votes.
7/26/2016 7:42:00 AM 1 Hand Message Hand votes yes
7/26/2016 2:38:00 AM 1 Shield Message The next proposal is that we send the Field Consul - Fabius with 14 Legions to deal with the Slave revolt in Sicily.
Further a Fleet is sent in support of this operation. Also a single Legion to be dispatched to Sicily to bolster the local defenses. as a garrison.

The vote order is

Hand
Moon
Eagle
Wreath
Shield
7/26/2016 2:32:00 AM 1 Shield Message Shield votes yes

7/25/2016 11:14:00 PM 1 Hand Message Hand votes yes
7/25/2016 9:47:00 PM 1 Moon Message Moon votes Yes with 4 votes, No with 1 Vote.
7/25/2016 2:49:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes
7/25/2016 2:32:00 AM 1 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes
7/25/2016 2:04:00 AM 1 Shield Message Yes the revised proposal will be 9 Legions and one fleet which is required to support the war. Cost of 100T to the state treasury.

Vote order

Wreath
Eagle
Moon
Hand
Shield
7/24/2016 10:18:00 PM 1 Moon Message Does the Rome Consul want to modify the proposal to be 9 new legions? 15 total. 14 go to war, one to the Province?
7/24/2016 4:08:00 PM 1 Shield Message First time I have used the advanced rules. I thought they were added to the consuls army. Maybe we need a rule clarification from Guy (moon).
7/24/2016 2:12:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Are you sure that provincial forces are joined to a consul's army ? I thought that provincial forces were used only in case of assault on a pronvince by a non stalemated conflict.
7/24/2016 1:57:00 PM 1 Shield Message Shield proposes that we build 6 more Legions. That will give us a force of 12 Legions. Combined with the Provincial forces and Fabius's Military skill, we have a combat strength of 18.

Subtract the revolts strength of 7 means that we have an advantage of 11. The lowest roll of 3 gives success so barring a Disaster of 7 or a Standoff of 15, The Republic will be successful.

So I call on the vote for 6 new Legions, vote order is

Wreath
Moon
Eagle
Hand
Shield
7/24/2016 1:33:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes ... Yes !
7/24/2016 12:34:00 PM 1 Moon Message Yes, with all 5 votes.
7/24/2016 11:40:00 AM 1 Hand Message Hand votes yes
7/24/2016 10:39:00 AM 1 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes with 10 votes
7/24/2016 10:27:00 AM 1 Shield Message After this vote we move onto the serious issue of the slave revolt, and how much force to send with the Field Consul.
7/24/2016 10:26:00 AM 1 Shield Message I nominate Flamminus of Eagle to take on the Governorship of Cisalpine Gaul.

Vote order is -

Wreath
Hand
Moon
Eagle
shield
7/23/2016 5:41:00 AM 1 Eagle Message By the way, Nearer Spain misses one marker for the provincial armu that Flaminius raised during revenue phase.
7/23/2016 5:06:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Flaminius of Eagle volunteers for Gaul, noting that Eagle faction was given no roman office, and having proven his capacity to develop provinces.
7/23/2016 4:41:00 AM 1 Shield Message I play the Servilian Law card, to show that Shield is the Champion of the Equestrians. I will receive a +1 modifier in all Knight attraction rolls.
7/23/2016 4:37:00 AM 1 Shield Play/Discard card LAW / Servilian Law

Message from Shield:
Whilst I await the deluge of volunteers for the Governorship of Cisalpine Gaul I have a law that I present to the Senate.
7/23/2016 4:36:00 AM 1 Shield Message This leaves the province of Cisalpine Gaul to be Governed. I ask if there are any volunteers?
7/23/2016 4:33:00 AM 1 Shield Message With Aurelius leaving for Nearer Spain the Eagle faction has a reduction of 3 votes in the Senate . Now on 10 votes.

With Servilius leaving for Sardinia the Moon faction has a reduction of 3 votes in the Senate. Now on 5 votes.

With Quinctius leaving for Further Spain the Hand Faction has a reduction of 2 votes in the Senate. Now on 9 votes.

There are now a total of 42 votes in the Senate, therefore 22 votes required for a majority.


7/23/2016 4:24:00 AM 1 Shield Message Shield votes yes

7/23/2016 1:55:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes yes
7/22/2016 11:36:00 PM 1 Moon Message Moon 8 Yes
7/22/2016 6:45:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes
7/22/2016 6:23:00 PM 1 Hand Message Hand's votes 11 - yea
7/22/2016 6:20:00 PM 1 Shield Message Porcius stands and addressess the Senate -

I propose the following allocation of Govonorships -

Aurelius of Eagle to Nearer Spain
Quinctius of Hand to Further Spain
Servilius of Moon to sardinia - Corsica

Can I ask the senate to vote on this appointments in the following order -

Hand
Wreath
Moon
Eagle
Shield
7/22/2016 2:43:00 PM 1 Wreath Message I will indeed decline.
7/22/2016 1:01:00 PM 1 Shield Message Just waiting for Wreath if he wants any governorship, since he has the least amount of Senators he might decline.
7/22/2016 9:49:00 AM 1 Hand Message Quinticus of Hand would like to depart
7/22/2016 9:31:00 AM 1 Moon Message Cornelius might find himself the only Moon senator left in Rome if no one else comes forward.
7/22/2016 9:28:00 AM 1 Moon Message Only, Servilious Glaucia from Moon wants to leave. He will take a developed or undeveloped location.
7/22/2016 2:32:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Aurelius of Eagle is ready to pack his stuff and go
7/22/2016 2:10:00 AM 1 Shield Message Hi

Can each faction please tell which senator (if any) they would like to be given a Governorship.
7/21/2016 4:28:00 PM 1 Moon Message No more prosecutions.

Pontifex Maximus veto has been used for the turn.
7/21/2016 3:44:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Senator Aelius vetoes as Pontifex Maximus.
7/20/2016 9:36:00 PM 1 Moon Message Clearly there has been a deal going here. We must stop corruption.

OK, to speed this up, Servilious Glaucia will lead the prosecution against Plautius (Grain Concession)

Moon votes all 8 votes as guilty.

Remaining voting order:
2) Wreath
3) Shield
4) Eagle
5) Hand

Eagle and Hand, I will support either of you getting the concession.
7/20/2016 2:44:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Senator Papirius of Wreath refuses to prosecute.
7/20/2016 2:38:00 AM 1 Shield Message A stunned silence befalls the Senators loyal to the Shield faction, is Censor Cornelius really going to point the finger of corruption at Plautius, considering that Manilius is extorting the farmers of Italy. How hypocritical. It all now depends on the Wreath faction, will they wish to prosecute Plautius, and see the Moon faction as what they really are ...

Plautius also pledges in the Senate and upon his word that he will not take any advantage of the people during this time of drought. ( Shield would only take 5T not 10T from the concession. )
7/19/2016 11:30:00 PM 1 Moon Message Please note, the Prior Consul marker should be on Porcius, not Plautius of the Shield faction.
7/19/2016 11:27:00 PM 1 Moon Message I, Senator Cornelius, as Censor for this great republic, bring charges, a minor prosecution, against Senator Plautius of the Shield Faction for his exploitation of the Roman Citizenry by fixing grain price at an unreasonable rate thereby profiting beyond a reasonable measure (use of Egyptian Grain Concession).

I ask Senator Papirius of the Wreath faction to act as lead prosecutor in this matter. I urge Senator Papirius to argue the case. Should he consent, the voting order is as follows (after Wreath votes and gives their speech):

1) Wreath
2) Shield
3) Hand
4) Eagle
5) Moon

7/19/2016 4:45:00 PM 1 Shield Message Cornelius of Moon is the only option for Censor

I will hand over the house to Cornelius in his role as Censor...
7/19/2016 4:43:00 PM 1 Shield Message Aelius of Wreath is Pontifix Maximus

7/19/2016 4:42:00 PM 1 Shield Message Shield votes yes

7/19/2016 3:16:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Wreath votes YES
7/19/2016 8:14:00 AM 1 Hand Message Hand votes Yea

Wreath is up
7/18/2016 11:09:00 PM 1 Moon Message Moon votes Yes (8?)
7/18/2016 10:20:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes Yes
7/18/2016 9:30:00 AM 1 Hand Message From Shield:
I will be nominating Aelius of Wreath as Pontifix Maximus.

The voting order will be

Eagle
Moon
Hand
Wreath
Shield
7/17/2016 7:55:00 PM 1 Moon Message The Moon faction suggests offering the Pontiff Maxius post to a senator from either Eagle or Wreath. We will vote for such a move. Any other move, we will vote against it (unless persuaded otherwise).
7/17/2016 7:51:00 PM 1 Moon Message I believe the first order of business is electing a Pontifex Maximus as that office is still vacant.

After that, the Censor is elected, and Cornelius is the automatic winner by rule as no one else is qualified.
7/17/2016 6:43:00 PM 1 Hand Message I am fine taking the Field Consul
7/17/2016 5:36:00 PM 1 Shield Message Eagle faction, yes that would be a good idea if we were going to go for the Bequest this year, but since the Republic is financially in a strong position, I think that the military expertise of Fabius would be best utilized in quelling the slave revolt.

The Senate awaits hands confirmation of these offices.
7/17/2016 3:34:00 PM 1 Eagle Message I would suggest the opposite if we want to get Bequest (field consul) and fight the slaves with the Rome consul
7/17/2016 3:19:00 PM 1 Shield Message Porcius as Rome Consul and Fabius as Field Consul, as long as my esteemed colleague agrees.
7/17/2016 2:52:00 PM 1 Moon Message Moon also votes Yes with 8 votes, motion carried.

Fabius (Hand)) and Porcius (Shield) are the new consuls. They must both announce in agreement who is Rome Consul and how is Field Consul. If they do not agree, it is settled by highest DR.
7/17/2016 2:17:00 PM 1 Shield Message Shield has already voted yes and my map does show knights

7/17/2016 1:41:00 PM 1 Moon Message Sorry, I was looking at Chris's old map, I accidentally hit the scroll button on my mouse and the viewer went to the next file, which happened to be Chris's map, not Aaron's new one.

I propose Fabius (Hand)) and Porcius (Shield) as Consuls for the next term.

Voting Order:
1) Wreath - 10 Yes votes
2) Eagle - 13 votes abstained
3) Hand - 11 Yes votes.
*4) Shield - Up to vote with 8 votes
5) Moon - Up to vote with 8 votes

7/17/2016 1:32:00 PM 1 Moon Message I propose Fabius (Hand)) and Porcius (Shield) as Consuls for the next term.

Voting Order:
1) Wreath - 12 Yes votes
2) Eagle - 9 votes abstained
3) Hand - 9 Yes votes.
*4) Shield - Up to vote with 7 votes
5) Moon - Up to vote with 8 votes

The Aaron's map is missing Knights, so those votes are not counted, but they will probably not matter as no one has voted No yet.
7/17/2016 12:19:00 PM 1 Shield Message Shield votes yes
7/17/2016 11:13:00 AM 1 Hand Message Hand votes yes.

Unfortunately some personal issues came up this weekend and I will not be able to post the new map till Monday. I might be able to get it this evening, but doubt it
7/17/2016 6:31:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Abstention from Eagle
7/17/2016 6:26:00 AM 1 Wreath Message Wreath votes yes
7/16/2016 3:59:00 PM 1 Moon Message I propose Fabius (Hand)) and Porcius (Shield) as Consuls for the next term.

Voting Order:
1) Wreath
2) Eagle
3) Hand
4) Sbield
5) Moon

7/16/2016 3:53:00 PM 1 Moon Message The Moon faction openly confirms the deal proposed by the shield faction.
7/16/2016 11:51:00 AM 1 Shield Message The Shield faction proposes a public deal to the Moon faction that they will nominate a Shield senator for consul as long as possible, before nominating any pair excluding the Shield faction. During the election of consuls, the Moon faction will call Shield and Moon to vote last. If elected Rome Consul, the Shield faction will nominate Senator Servilius Glaucia as a governor as long as possible, nominating him either in combination with others, or before others, as long as possible. In addition, the Shield faction will deposit 3T (or whatever they have if less than 3T), into the Moon faction treasury at the end of the next Revenue Phase.
7/16/2016 1:31:00 AM 1 Eagle Message 104BC is the second one. 7/1
7/15/2016 11:59:00 PM 1 Moon Message Does anyone have their physical game handy to look up which Sicilian Slave Revolt was drawn? The card manifest has the info below but the ACTS just has the date without a 1st or 2nd in front of it,

1st Sicilian Slave Revolt@ 4/0 D17:S15 Destroys Sicilian Grain
2nd Sicilian Slave Revolt@ 7/1 D7:S15 Destroys Sicilian Grain

My copy is a little hard to dig out right now, but I can if I have to.

Look for the one that have 104 BC as the date.
7/15/2016 11:57:00 PM 1 Moon Message Does anyone have their physical game handy to look up which Sicilian Slave Revolt was drawn? The card manifest has the info below but the ACTS just has the date without a 1st or 2nd in front of it,

1st Sicilian Slave Revolt@ 4/0 D17:S15 Destroys Sicilian Grain
2nd Sicilian Slave Revolt@ 7/1 D7:S15 Destroys Sicilian Grain

My copy is a little hard to dig out right now, but I can if I have to.
7/15/2016 11:32:00 PM 1 Moon Message Updates required to the map:
Cornelius treasure is spent (Moon faction)
Sicilian Slave Revolt should be placed in active wars.
A drought event should be out.
Unrest set to two.

Those are just the updates I can think of right now

7/15/2016 11:30:00 PM 1 Moon Message Senator Cornelius summons all senators to the senate. I will nominate the initial candidates for consul within 24 hours.
7/15/2016 11:28:00 PM 1 Moon Message Unrest increased from 1 to 2 with a 10 on the population table.
7/15/2016 11:27:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

2
4
5

Total: 11

Message from Moon:
Population Roll:

The drought has increased the unrest from 0 to 1.
TDR - UNREST (1) + Popularity (0)
7/15/2016 11:21:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Total: 2

Message from Moon:
dr to revive Valerius on a 5 or 6
7/15/2016 11:16:00 PM 1 Moon Message Change Moon faction leader to be Cornelius.
7/15/2016 11:15:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1

Total: 1

Message from Moon:
Cornelius acquires a knight on a '6'
7/15/2016 11:15:00 PM 1 Moon Message Pergamene Bequest MR In Revenue Phase State gains 50T if, in the prior Senate Phase, the Field Consul with 3 Legions and 3 Fleets are sent to retrieve it. Rebel Consul may keep Bequest. Creates Province of Asia. Discard only after collection.

This card should go in the Forum, I believe. It is not considered a war, just something to go collect.
7/15/2016 11:12:00 PM 1 Moon Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

EVT / Pergamene Bequest

7/15/2016 11:12:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
1

Total: 2

Message from Moon:
Initiative <> 7; Event = 7
7/15/2016 7:58:00 PM 1 Shield Message Cornelius can have the initiative for 3T
7/15/2016 5:32:00 PM 1 Moon Message Cornelius bids 3T for the initiative.
7/15/2016 4:11:00 PM 1 Shield Message Sulpicius bids 2T
7/15/2016 2:37:00 PM 1 Moon Message Sulpicius of Shield (Aaron) with 6t is the only one who can outbid Cornelius's bid of 1T.
7/15/2016 2:27:00 PM 1 Moon Message Chris/Hand to bid next.
7/15/2016 2:27:00 PM 1 Moon Message Cornelius bids 1T for the extra initiative.
7/15/2016 2:20:00 PM 1 Hand Message Unless Wreath has any objections (he can still change his leader or try for a persuasion), that should complete the first round of initiatives.

Bidding begins for the 6th with the HRAO and goes in order

Bids must be made out of the Personal Treasury of the senator conducting the initiative.

Currently only two senators have money who are still in Rome:

Cornelius of Moon (who is still alive;) with 3t
Sulpicius of Shield with 6t

Bidding begins with Moon then shield.

Please, correct me if I am wrong ... again
7/15/2016 1:42:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Wreath:
Aelius spends 3T to attract a knight. Success on 3+
7/15/2016 1:40:00 PM 1 Wreath Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Wreath's hand
7/15/2016 1:40:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
3

Total: 6

Message from Wreath:
Initiative roll
7/15/2016 10:02:00 AM 1 Hand Message Sorry about that guys, my mistake. I saw the 1 in the mortality chit roll and ....

Anyway, wreath is still up
7/15/2016 9:52:00 AM 1 Moon Message Also, for future reference, you do not make up a new tie breaker. If the rules run out of tie breakers, there is a rule that says players roll DR and highest roll wins the tie.
7/15/2016 9:49:00 AM 1 Moon Message Mob Violence killed Claudius, not Cornelius.

7/15/2016 1:25:00 AM 1 Shield Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Claudius

Message from Shield:
7/15/2016 9:18:00 AM 1 Hand Message I just now realized that Flaminus and Fabius both have 4 Military. So we can use the Loyalty rating to break the tie if that is ok with the group.

7/15/2016 9:15:00 AM 1 Hand Message The Mob Violence killed our Temporary Rome Consul. Since we have no other officials yet we need to follow rule 9.1:

If none of these officials is available due to death or absence from Rome, the Senator with the most Influence opens the meeting (using Oratory ratings to break ties)

Currently (and this could change before the end of the Forum Phase) we have two Senators in Rome tied for the lead with 5 Influence. Flaminus of Eagle and Fabius of Hand. (Fulvius of Moon has 7 Influence, but he is not in Rome)
They both also have 2 Oratory. So I recommend that we use Military rating to break the next tie. If anyone has a better idea, I'm all ears.

Of course this doesn't solve all our problems. With the death of Cornelius there is no longer any senator with Prior Consul experience to take the position of Censor. We therefor need to follow rule 9.4:

If there are no Senators with Consular experience present in the Senate and free of other offices, the election for Censor is temporarily thrown open to all aligned Senators in Rome.

If anyone sees the situation differently, please let us know.

But before we get there, we have Wreath's initiative and the bid for the 6th.
7/15/2016 2:29:00 AM 1 Shield Message Plautius will go for Knight. Spends 5T so is automatic

I will do no Persuasion attempts, no games and no faction Leader change. So its on to wreath / Victor
7/15/2016 2:26:00 AM 1 Shield Message Some obscure nobody takes the hit.
7/15/2016 2:25:00 AM 1 Shield Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Claudius

Message from Shield:

7/15/2016 2:25:00 AM 1 Shield Message Need to draw on Mortality chit but it could effect all in Rome as none have gain popularity
7/15/2016 2:23:00 AM 1 Shield Message Mob Violence

7/15/2016 2:23:00 AM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

1
4
2

Total: 7

Message from Shield:
Random Event Roll
7/15/2016 2:22:00 AM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4

Total: 7

Message from Shield:
Initiative roll
7/15/2016 1:08:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Shield / Aaron next
7/15/2016 1:07:00 AM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Eagle:
Sempronius spends 3T to attract a knight. Success on 3+
7/15/2016 1:03:00 AM 1 Eagle Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Eagle's hand
7/15/2016 1:02:00 AM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1

Total: 6

Message from Eagle:
Initiative roll
7/14/2016 11:18:00 PM 1 Hand Message Fabius gets a knight

No games, no persuasion, no faction leader change

Next up, Eagle/Olivier
7/14/2016 11:15:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Hand:
Fabius spends 3t on a Knight roll. Succeeds on a 3 or more
7/14/2016 11:12:00 PM 1 Hand Message Middle Republic random event for a roll of 9 is a Drought.

Unrest +1
7/14/2016 11:09:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

3
3
3

Total: 9

Message from Hand:
Random event roll
7/14/2016 11:09:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
4

Total: 7

Message from Hand:
Initiative roll
7/14/2016 7:48:00 PM 1 Moon Message No games to be sponsored. No change to faction leader.

Next player is Hand/Chris.
7/14/2016 7:44:00 PM 1 Moon Message Manilius fails. 2T lost.
7/14/2016 7:44:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Total: 2

Message from Moon:
Manilius will attempt to attract a night spending 2T.

dr+2 >= 6 required to succeed.
7/14/2016 7:38:00 PM 1 Moon Message No persuasion attempt will be conducted.
7/14/2016 7:38:00 PM 1 Moon Message We have a slave revolt in Sicily. No wonder, the state received no income from that normally productive province.
7/14/2016 7:37:00 PM 1 Moon Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

REV / Sicilian Slave Revolt 104 BC

7/14/2016 7:37:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
4

Total: 6

Message from Moon:
Initiative Roll
7/14/2016 6:14:00 PM 1 Hand Message Forum Phase Begins:

Each player, starting with the HRAO, in succession takes his Initiative. Each Initiative consists of the following actions:
a. Must make a 2d6 roll. If the 2d6 is a 7, roll a 3d6 on the Random Events Table. Otherwise, draw a card from the Forum deck.
b. May make one Persuasion Attempt.
c. Attempt to attract a Knight or pressure multiple Knights (not both)
d. Sponsor games.
e. Change Faction Leader if desired.

After everyone goes, we bid on the last initiative. Winner pays and rolls.

Then the HRAO, Moon/Guy, rolls dr to revive Valerius on a 5 or 6 and anything else that appears in the Curia this turn
7/14/2016 5:28:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Wreath:
Die roll to improve Further Spain: 5+ needed. (No personal income being taken).
7/14/2016 3:05:00 PM 1 Hand Message Victor, If you could submit an improvement dr roll for Further Spain that would end the revenue phase
7/14/2016 2:43:00 PM 1 Wreath Message 3T on Aelius, rest goes to treasury
7/14/2016 2:36:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1

Total: 1

Message from Wreath:
State tax for Further Spain
-dr-1
7/14/2016 11:44:00 AM 1 Hand Message I think all we need now is Wreath's revenue phase and then we can move on to the Forum phase and get some initiative. When we do that, we should follow the order listed on ACTS starting with the HRAO and running down the list.

So Currently that is:
Moon/Guy
Hand/Chris
Eagle/Olivier
Shield/Aaron
Wreath/Victor

I'll send out an updated Board once the Revenue phase is over and again after the Forum phase.

Guy once Wreath has posted his revenue go ahead and roll, don't wait for my board.

7/14/2016 9:33:00 AM 1 Moon Message I will put 3T on Cornelius, 2T on Manilius, and rest (3T) on the faction treasury.
7/14/2016 9:30:00 AM 1 Moon Message Fulvious gains 3 Inf for improving Illyricum.

Illyricum does not add any forces as 5 Local Tax cannot buy a single army. My governor does not wish to spend any of his own to pay.
7/14/2016 9:28:00 AM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Moon:
Die roll to improve Illyricum: 5+ needed. (No personal income being taken).
7/14/2016 9:27:00 AM 1 Moon Message -4T to Rome's treasury to pay for occupation of Illyricum.
7/14/2016 9:27:00 AM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Moon:
State Income for Illyricum: -dr -1
7/14/2016 9:23:00 AM 1 Moon Message Provincial Forces are kept from year to year and there is no maintenance paid for them, unless the governor is a rebel having to pay for them out of pocket.
7/14/2016 3:45:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Flaminius spends 10T of local taxes to raise one army in Nearer Spain. Not sure what happens to the remaining 5T. Are they kept for the next year or lost ?
7/14/2016 2:19:00 AM 1 Shield Message Terentius spends the 30T of local taxes on 2 Armies and 1 fleet for Sicily
7/13/2016 11:40:00 PM 1 Shield Message Well that was rubbish. Terentius hangs his head in shame. No income from Sicily. Term maker moved to 2.
7/13/2016 11:39:00 PM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
1

Total: 2

Message from Shield:
Sicily income to State
7/13/2016 11:38:00 PM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Shield:
Terentius takes no personal income from Sicily.

Therefore Province improves on a 5+
7/13/2016 11:36:00 PM 1 Shield Message I shall give 5T to Plautius and 6T to Sulpicius
7/13/2016 5:54:00 PM 1 Eagle Message 4T to Rome
7/13/2016 5:53:00 PM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Eagle:
dr +1 to the state from Nearer Spain

7/13/2016 5:17:00 PM 1 Hand Message State loses 4t from Sardinia
7/13/2016 5:16:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Hand:
State taxes roll for Sardinia
-dr-1
7/13/2016 5:16:00 PM 1 Hand Message Also, don't forget (I forgot) in your revenue distribution to roll for the state income for your provinces as follows:
Hand/Sardinia: -dr-1
Shield/Sicily: DR-2
Eagle/Nearer Spain: dr+1 (developed)
Wreath/Further Spain: -dr-1
Moon/Illyricum: -dr-1

7/13/2016 5:08:00 PM 1 Eagle Message No change for me : 3T to faction leader, rest to faction preasury.
7/13/2016 5:02:00 PM 1 Hand Message Sorry guys, it has been awhile since I've played this game.
I believe I made a mistake in my summary of the revenue phase. (I didn't collect for the senators who are governors)

So here is the corrected list for the revenue stage:
Aaron/Shield collects 11t. (3 for Leader, 3 for other Senators, 5 Grain)
Chris/Hand collects 6t (3 Leader, 3 Senators)
Olivier/Eagle collects 6t (3 Leader, 3 Senators) (If you want to reassign your revenue, please do so)
Guy/Moon collects 8t (3 Leader, 3 Senators, 2 Tax Farmer)
Victor Wreath collects 5t (3 Leader, 2 Senators) (this is different than my last post, sorry for the confusion)

Again, sorry about this, it'll take me a couple turns to get back in the swing of it
7/13/2016 4:30:00 PM 1 Hand Message Correction, WREATH, you collect 4t this revenue phase not 5t, I counted Valerius before he died.
7/13/2016 12:57:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Nearer Spain is developped and Flaminius gets 3 INF
7/13/2016 12:25:00 PM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Eagle:
Flaminius takes no money from Spain, and tries to develop it. Success on 5/6.
7/13/2016 12:24:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Sempronius gets 3T, rest to faction treasury.

7/13/2016 11:14:00 AM 1 Hand Message Not improved, Quinticus comes home and Sardinia goes to the forum
7/13/2016 11:12:00 AM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Hand:
Roll to improve Sardinia

Improves on a roll 5 or better (no personal income)
7/13/2016 11:10:00 AM 1 Hand Message Quinctius is not taking income from Sardinia
7/13/2016 10:44:00 AM 1 Hand Message Hand puts 3t on Fabius the rest in the Faction Treasury
7/13/2016 10:43:00 AM 1 Hand Message Money in the faction treasury is used for:
1) Defending against Persuasion attempts.
2) Paying maintenance on rebel troops.
Money in the single personal treasury of a senator is used to:
1) Bid on iniatives (senator must be in Rome.)
2) Offensive persuasion attempts (senator must be in Rome.)
3) Knight attraction (senator must be in Rome.)
4) Donations to the State.
5) Sponsoring Games
6) Buying votes (senator must be in Rome.)
7) Bribing legions
8) Defensive Persuasion attempts.
9) Paying Maintenance on Rebel Troops (if senator is a rebel.)
7/13/2016 10:39:00 AM 1 Hand Message Aaron/Shield collects 10t.
Chris/Hand collects 5t.
Olivier/Eagle collects 5t.
Guy/Moon collects 7t.
Victor/Wreath collects 5t.
State pays for 12t for 6 legions and collects 88t. State now has 188t. (my first board had it at 300t, my error)
7/13/2016 10:31:00 AM 1 Hand Message For this step of the revenue phase, decide where you want to allocate your money. This step will be completed when everyone is satisfied with where their money is (if you put it somewhere you can change after someone else places their money.) Once the last person states where there money is, the others will state that they are finished or they will move money. If another person moves money then we will require the other 5 to state that they are finished.
7/13/2016 10:25:00 AM 1 Hand Message Valerius of Wreath passes in the night as he waited for the game to start. Poor man
7/13/2016 10:23:00 AM 1 Hand Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Valerius

Message from Hand:
Turn 1 Begins - 1st Mortality Roll
7/13/2016 2:26:00 AM 1 Shield Message Ready to move on to 1st turn mortality phase.

Would like to say good fortunes to us all and The Republic!
7/13/2016 1:47:00 AM 1 Moon Message Do we assume that all players have had a chance to play statesman and/or concessions as their faction leaders have been named and provinces have been assigned governors?

The Mortality phase is done by the banker. But we could make that done by any other player the confirms my assertion that initial setup is complete.

There are 6 legions in Rome (Mid republic)
100T in the Treasury
Unrest is Currently at 0.

The Province of Cisapline Gaul is in the Forum available for assignment in the Senate Phase.



7/13/2016 1:24:00 AM 1 Moon Message Assuming Cornelius does not die in the mortality phase (or get pulled to another faction - unlikely this early), while we work our way through the phases leading up to the first Senate phase, I am open to private discussions as to who I might propose as consuls in the Senate phase.
7/13/2016 12:47:00 AM 1 Moon Message If by chance my temporary consul dies, then because there are no office holders alive, there is a roll off for HRAO among the senators with 5 influence and 2 oratory (unless they also die), because Cornelius is 5/3 but not a FL, so that card would go to the Curia. HRAO is Highest Infl with ties broken by Ora. If still tied, players do DR to break ties.

I am not sure, but I think this roll off might happen for each phase where an HRAO is needed. There is nothing to record the permanency of that position. HRAO does not make a leader the temporary consul.

Of course, buying influence during the revenue phase could alter the influence levels. Any returning senators that manage to improve their province would gain 3 Inf as well, so if Cornelius dies, things could get interesting fast.

My statesman is not very loyal, so the only way to hang on to him was to make him the faction leader. Kind of risky on my part, but it is early, lots of things can change.
7/13/2016 12:33:00 AM 1 Moon Message I think we are ready for the Mortality phase. Agree?
7/13/2016 12:02:00 AM 1 Moon Message I calculate the current votes as follows (with Senators out of Rome not counted, except those whose will return by the first senate phase with a + for the additional votes*):

Aaron/Shield: 7
Bastos/Eagle: 10+2
Chris/Hand: 8+2
Guy/Moon: 8
Victor/Wreath: 9+2

*After the Revenue Phase Governor term markers are advanced, so those with 1 turn remaining will return to Rome by the Senate phase and their provinces will be available for assignment.
7/12/2016 11:36:00 PM 1 Moon Message #1 Cornelius of my faction is Temporary Rome Consul to start the game. +5 Inf (now 10) and a Prior Consul marker is also placed.
7/12/2016 11:28:00 PM 1 Moon Message I calculate 8 votes for the Moon faction (my statesman actually lost me a vote, but he knows how to work a crowd (extra die for popular appeal).
7/12/2016 11:24:00 PM 1 Moon Play/Discard card STA / Servilius Glaucia

Message from Moon:
This statesman is my faction leader.
7/12/2016 11:23:00 PM 1 Moon Play/Discard card CON / Tax Farmer 5

Message from Moon:
#6 Manlius owns this concession.
7/12/2016 11:22:00 PM 1 Moon Message Fulvius assigned as governor of Illyricum, 3 turns remaining.

7/12/2016 6:14:00 PM 1 Shield Play/Discard card CON / Egyptian grain

Message from Shield:
Played on Plautius
7/12/2016 6:13:00 PM 1 Shield Message Sorry just got it. oticed that I have three cards too. (not used ACTS in a while.
7/12/2016 6:12:00 PM 1 Shield Message just Guy (Moon) to declare faction Leader and whom is at the Province and Terms.

Also how did the Statesman appear as we do not have any cards as yet?
7/12/2016 6:09:00 PM 1 Shield Message Hi All
My Faction is -

SEN / Plautius
PRO / Sicily - undeveloped
SEN / Terentius
SEN / Porcius
SEN / Sulpicius

With Plautius as Faction Leader
With Terentius in Sicily with 3 terms left
7/12/2016 3:45:00 PM 1 Hand Message Fabius is Faction leader
7/12/2016 3:36:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Furius is Gov with 1 term remaining,
Faction leader is Aelius
7/12/2016 3:29:00 PM 1 Eagle Play/Discard card STA / T. Sempronius Gracchus

Message from Eagle:
Statesman T. Sempronius Gracchus pops
7/12/2016 3:25:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Flaminius in Spain with 1 turn remaining
Sempronius faction leader
7/12/2016 2:57:00 PM 1 Eagle Message PRO / Nearer Spain - undeveloped
SEN / Sempronius
SEN / Aurelius
SEN / Cassius
SEN / Flaminius
7/12/2016 2:56:00 PM 1 Wreath Message SEN / Furius
SEN / Aelius
SEN / Papirius
SEN / Valerius
PRO / Further Spain - undeveloped
7/12/2016 2:55:00 PM 1 Hand Message PRO / Sardinia-Corsica - undeveloped
SEN / Julius
SEN / Fabius
SEN / Popillius
SEN / Quinctius

Quinctius is Gov with 1 term remaining
7/12/2016 2:50:00 PM 1 Hand Message Please post your starting senators and province and tell us who is Gov and for how many terms are remaining.

Using all optional rules

Good luck
7/12/2016 2:48:00 PM 1 Moon Message My starting senators and provinces:
SEN / Cornelius
SEN / Fulvius
PRO / Illyricum - undeveloped
SEN / Servilius
SEN / Manlius

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