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Republic of Rome: Game 805 Journal

Time Turn Player Title Entry
2/19/2018 2:52:00 AM 1 Hand Message So jeff your guy is Rome counsel.
Go ahead and take over the flow of the game.
2/19/2018 2:04:00 AM 1 Eagle Message I would consider the role of field consul.
Eagle Faction.
2/18/2018 8:40:00 PM 1 Shield Message I will vote in favor.

I will let Andrew call the positions.

Please bear in mind I am at Prezcon - - so slow responses if any I am afraid.

And if late at night may not make sense. :-)

2/18/2018 6:36:00 PM 1 Hand Message Actually, since the measure is likely to pass at this point. Jeff and Andrew could you state your preferences for Rome and field counsel.
2/18/2018 12:05:00 PM 1 Hand Message You can't be consul twice in a row anyway and besides I'm a fair and just Rome consul.
Jeff up to vote.
2/18/2018 5:06:00 AM 1 Crown Message Uh right
I confused Calpurnius with Cornelius.

:-o

2/18/2018 4:50:00 AM 1 Wreath Message The vote is for shield and eagle senators, not Cornelius (Hand).

I think shield and eagle will do a great job and support.
2/18/2018 4:22:00 AM 1 Crown Message Ryan next
2/18/2018 4:15:00 AM 1 Crown Message I am worried about the concentrating power in the hand of Cornelius, he is already been consul and he has just co-opted a Senator to his faction.

I vote against
2/17/2018 3:52:00 PM 1 Moon Message In favor
2/17/2018 11:52:00 AM 1 Hand Message Okay I'll nominate shield and eagle's senators, Flaminus and Calpurnus.
Voting: Andras, Nando, Ryan, Jeff, Andrew, Farrell.
2/16/2018 5:52:00 PM 1 Hand Message Now to senate phase. First order of business is new counsuls. Fabius is still in the field and is now a proconsul. He can not vote till recalled.
I suppose I should give people enough time to tribune to propose their own nominees. Iíll give 24 hours or until everyone passes.


2/16/2018 5:48:00 PM 1 Hand Message 12 no change.
The people have Rome think Iím an okay guy, not great but good enough.
2/16/2018 5:47:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

5
4
4

Total: 13

Message from Hand:
So I have 0 popularity and we are at unrest of 1.
2/16/2018 5:45:00 PM 1 Hand Message I donít have map access now but I can update tonight.
Forum phase is over on to pop phase.
We have one under secured war so unrest goes up by 1 and now I roll for my speech at a minus 1.
2/16/2018 4:44:00 PM 1 Moon Message sorry, could not find the war cards, I wonder if Farell could place 2nd Illyrian war on the table.

Farell is up.
2/16/2018 4:36:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Moon:
Furius tries to attract a knight, no talents
2/16/2018 4:34:00 PM 1 Moon Message where can I find war cards in Vassal?
2/16/2018 4:28:00 PM 1 Moon Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

WAR / 2nd Illyrian War

2/16/2018 4:28:00 PM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
2

Total: 5

Message from Moon:
initiative
2/15/2018 3:35:00 PM 1 Wreath Message I dropped a file for my impulse. Andras is up.
2/15/2018 2:58:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Gets him barely
2/15/2018 2:57:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Total: 2

Message from Wreath:
Manilus will spend 4 on a knight
2/15/2018 2:54:00 PM 1 Wreath Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Wreath's hand
2/15/2018 2:51:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
1

Total: 5

Message from Wreath:
Initiative roll
2/15/2018 2:50:00 PM 1 Crown Message Success
Ryan next
2/15/2018 2:50:00 PM 1 Crown Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Crown:
Claudius invests 4 talents for pressuring a knight
2/15/2018 2:48:00 PM 1 Crown Message I am going on with my initiative
2/15/2018 2:47:00 PM 1 Crown Message Well, 1 talents for the pontifex
10 talents in the Moon faction treasure.

Rome has to pay the remaining 9 talents
Our treasure goes from 64 to 55
2/15/2018 2:37:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Nando, can you process it for him. The game is painfully slow. Also you will immediately up to recruit a knight or whatever after that is done.
2/15/2018 2:29:00 PM 1 Crown Message Guys, please
Your messages should be posted in the journal to bettere keep track of what we say.
Btw, I report here the last consideration from Farell:

'Andras needs to tell us how much you could pay so Rome can pay the difference from 20 only.
2/15/2018 11:04:00 AM 1 Moon Message no surprise there...

Obviously, Valerius is unable to pay 20 talents, so
- he is stripped of PM and loses 5 influence;
- Faction treasury is unable to pay 30 talents, so whatever is there goes bankrupt, FL (Furius) may be subject to Major Prosecution; and
- the State must pay the difference between the faction treasury and 30 talents.
2/15/2018 10:58:00 AM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1

Total: 1

Message from Moon:
collection for Valerius
2/15/2018 10:58:00 AM 1 Moon Message ok, trying to redo missing actions.

1. Priesthood: Quinctius (18) is made a priest.
2. collection: dr
2/15/2018 2:33:00 AM 1 Crown Message Andras, we are still waiting for you !
2/14/2018 1:50:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andras,
Did you get a chance to look at the situation?
2/13/2018 4:28:00 AM 1 Moon Message OK, will try to sort it out tonight, also with Farel's comment (the missing 1d6 talent).
2/12/2018 2:35:00 AM 1 Crown Message Andras, your Valerius is the Pontifex Maximum.

You're up to manage this event
2/12/2018 2:28:00 AM 1 Crown Message 4
5
1

Total: 10

Evil Omens:
2.01.7 EVIL OMENS: When the Evil Omens event is drawn, the
Pontifex Maximus must pay the 20 Talent cost from his Personal
Treasury. If he cannot pay the 20 Talents or if a second Evil Omens
occurs in the same turn, he is immediately stripped of his office and
loses 5 Influence (to a minimum of 0). If he is unable to pay the full
Evil Omens cost, the difference plus a 10 Talent fine is levied on his
Faction Treasury (payable to the Bank). If the Faction Treasury has
insufficient funds, what money there is in that Treasury is lost, and the
Faction Leader may also be the subject of a Major Prosecution during
the following Senate Phase, in addition to any regular Prosecutions
the Censor may wish to conduct. The State must pay any shortfall
in the Evil Omens cost (excluding the Faction fine) not paid by the
Pontifex Maximus or his Faction.
2/12/2018 2:22:00 AM 1 Crown Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

4
5
1

Total: 10

Message from Crown:
Of course, it was a 7 !
The dice look favourably to the Crown faction.

3d rolling for Random Event (crossing fingers)
2/12/2018 2:02:00 AM 1 Crown Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
6

Total: 7

Message from Crown:
Initiative roll for Crown
2/11/2018 7:53:00 PM 1 Shield Message Shield is done.
2/11/2018 7:53:00 PM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1

Total: 1

Message from Shield:
Aemilius spends 3 talents to attempt a Knight

2/11/2018 7:49:00 PM 1 Shield Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Shield's hand
2/11/2018 7:48:00 PM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
5

Total: 10

Message from Shield:
Initiative
2/10/2018 3:01:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andras,
I think you need to read the pontificate Maximus rules. You didnít roll a d6 for income and you didnít put any money on him.
Jeff up.
2/10/2018 2:07:00 PM 1 Eagle Message I think it is shield next I believe!
2/10/2018 2:05:00 PM 1 Eagle Message A Knight joins Flaminus and Eagle's reputation expands.

That is all from Eagle!
2/10/2018 2:04:00 PM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

3

Total: 3

Message from Eagle:
Flaminius pays 5 t to persuade a Knight to Eagle's side!
2/10/2018 2:03:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Ok a keeper for me....now I think trying to co-opt a Knight and I will put 5 from Flaminius into the attempt!
2/10/2018 2:02:00 PM 1 Eagle Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Eagle's hand
2/10/2018 2:02:00 PM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
1

Total: 2

Message from Eagle:
Initiative roll...
2/10/2018 2:01:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Ok Eagle's initiative.....here we go!
2/9/2018 1:32:00 PM 1 Crown Message Andrew is up for his Forum phase
2/9/2018 1:20:00 PM 1 Shield Message Early republic games tend to be more peaceful because Rome may fall and everyone loses.

Oh I don't know, I remember coalitions forming that offered those leader[s] in to strong a position in the early stage the choice of giving up some power or seeing Rome burned down around their ears. :-)
2/9/2018 1:08:00 PM 1 Hand Message Fails, knew I should have spent 1.
Andrew up.
2/9/2018 1:06:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

5

Total: 5

Message from Hand:
Succeeds.
FL is going to try and recruit a knight, no talents, need a six.
2/9/2018 1:05:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

4
5

Total: 9

Message from Hand:
Early republic games tend to be more peaceful because Rome may fall and everyone loses.
So my influence in 10, 3 oratory which gives me 13, minus 7 for his loyalty is 6 then I bribed him 3 so my target number is 9. I need to roll equal to or less for success.
2/9/2018 10:54:00 AM 1 Shield Message I doubt it will remain peaceful :-)
2/9/2018 3:01:00 AM 1 Moon Message no counter (what a peaceful game it is :-))
2/9/2018 2:23:00 AM 1 Crown Message Andras, the last for bribing attempt
2/9/2018 2:19:00 AM 1 Wreath Message No bribe.
2/9/2018 2:06:00 AM 1 Crown Message Ryan next
2/9/2018 2:06:00 AM 1 Crown Message HS, I counted on the un-alligned senator in forum to compense the loss of Sulpicious.
Btw, I prefer not generate conflicts with your faction, Farrell, hoping that you'll remember this in the next future.

No bribing from my side.
2/8/2018 6:49:00 PM 1 Shield Message No counter bribe.

Just an FYI for planning purposes I will be away at Prezcon from 2-18 through 2-25 so I will be very iffy on responses during that time. Usually sleep depredation sets in at some point. ;-)
2/8/2018 3:26:00 PM 1 Crown Message Well, Andrew answered just in time

jeff next
2/8/2018 3:25:00 PM 1 Crown Message Well, guys.
we should try to speed up the pace of this game.
I think that for this kind of things, very easy to do (like answering for bribing, vote, and so on) we should adopt a time limit, I suggest 24 hours as maximum.
Otherwise, we'll take some years to complete this game.
2/8/2018 3:24:00 PM 1 Eagle Message No counter-bribe from Eagle!
2/8/2018 2:03:00 AM 1 Crown Message Andrew you're up for bribing or not.

2/6/2018 6:24:00 PM 1 Hand Message My fo is going to try and persuade the unaligned senator.
Oratory plus influence is 13.
Loyalty is 7. So base of six.
Iím going to spend three to boost it to a 9.
We proceed clockwise for bribing.
Andrew is up first.

2/6/2018 6:21:00 PM 1 Hand Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

WAR / 1st Macedonian War

2/6/2018 6:21:00 PM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

2
6

Total: 8

Message from Hand:
Starting forum phase and here is my init roll.
2/6/2018 6:19:00 PM 1 Wreath Message State treasury goes up by 100 -26 for 13 unit upkeep and -40 for two active wars. Net of 34.
2/6/2018 5:34:00 PM 1 Moon Message 10 t (3 + 3*1 + 4), 5 in treasury and 5 on Furius.

vlog updatd.
2/6/2018 5:05:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Eagle gets FL 3 +1Knight, +1, +1 = Total 6.
3 to Flaminius and 3 to treasury.
2/6/2018 4:57:00 PM 1 Shield Message - I have 10 so 9 to treasury and 1 to Aemilius
2/6/2018 1:49:00 PM 1 Crown Message Crown Revenue
3 FL + 1 knight + 1 papirius + 2 tax farmer + 24 from previous built troops.
31 talents: 10 Claudius, 4 Papirius, 17 Faction treasure
2/5/2018 10:45:00 PM 1 Hand Message I made a file fr my revenue and the mortality phase. I also took 2 talents from andras to give to me and ryan. I put mine in faction treasury.
2/5/2018 3:17:00 PM 1 Wreath Message I get 7.

4 on Manilus. 3 in treasury. 1 from Andras into treasury.
2/5/2018 1:22:00 PM 1 Hand Message Sorry Nando, your guy died.
On to revenue phase.
Letís try and get this done in 24 hours.
I get eight. I think Iím putting five on FL and three in treasury.
2/5/2018 1:18:00 PM 1 Hand Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Sulpicius

Message from Hand:
Okay well that concludes the revolution phase. On to the next turn and the mortality phase.
Here is the chit.
2/5/2018 12:20:00 PM 1 Hand Message I donít believe a file was needed for this phase l
And technically the talents go to us during revenue phase.
2/5/2018 3:54:00 AM 1 Moon Message Handiong 1-1 talent to Wreath and Hand, respectively.

IS everyone doing an update or a consiladted one at the end of the phase?
2/4/2018 1:13:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andras you are still up.
2/2/2018 6:06:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Nothing here. I believe Andras is up.
2/2/2018 5:47:00 PM 1 Crown Message Nothing to do or declare for Crown.

Ryan next
2/2/2018 5:26:00 PM 1 Shield Message Done
2/2/2018 3:34:00 PM 1 Eagle Message That's it for Eagle at this point!
2/2/2018 3:33:00 PM 1 Crown Message Jeff next
2/2/2018 3:33:00 PM 1 Eagle Give Strategy card to Hand Message from Eagle:
Card given in exchange for your assistance with consular elections this next year!
2/2/2018 3:31:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Eagle is prepared to move forward and will donate a card to Hand.
2/2/2018 2:29:00 AM 1 Crown Message Andrew, has you completed your private negotiations ?

Anything to declare for Revolution phase ?
1/31/2018 4:23:00 PM 1 Eagle Message There needs to be a short interlude in proceedings due to some important negotiations to be concluded which will both enhance and strengthen the future might of Rome!
1/30/2018 9:36:00 PM 1 Hand Message Bad luck.
Next is revolution phase starting with me.
I have nothing to declare.
Andrew next.
1/30/2018 8:19:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Well he does not die.
1/30/2018 8:18:00 PM 1 Wreath Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 5
Chits Drawn:
Cornelius
Manlius
Acilius
Plautius
Cassius
Marius

Message from Wreath:

1/30/2018 8:18:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Stalemate. That is why dice games are terrible. We lose 4 legions and 1 fleet. And draw 5 mortality chits. A 2 kills Fabius.
1/30/2018 8:13:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

5
6
4

Total: 15

Message from Wreath:
Iíll roll for the war.

Syria has fleet support requirement of 2, but no navy. It is a land strength of 6 + 5 for their leader. We are a strength 16 + 4 for Fabius. So we are +9 to the 3d6 roll.

Stalemate on natural 15 or 17
Disaster on natural 14 or 16
1/30/2018 5:51:00 PM 1 Hand Message Unless there is any objections, Iím going to close the session and let Ryan roll.
Iíll give a couple hours to voice any objections.
1/30/2018 5:46:00 PM 1 Hand Message We need all of Romeís might to crush our enemies, see them driven before us and hear the lamentations of their women.
Hand votes yes.
The measure passes, may Mars bless our Field Counsul.

1/30/2018 5:43:00 PM 1 Wreath Message I figured we would conquer Egypt while we were in the neighborhood.

Wreath votes in favor. Packing my bags now.
1/30/2018 5:39:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Eagle will vote against the motion...Rome is powerful and does not need to send her entire force for such an insignificant war!
1/30/2018 3:23:00 PM 1 Moon Message in favour
1/30/2018 1:41:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andras is up.
My intent after this vote is to close the session and let Ryan fight the combat. If you think there is more business and want to tribune let me know. Iím not sure what else there is.
1/30/2018 2:32:00 AM 1 Crown Message Ok, I vote in favor of Farrell's proposal.

Andras next
1/30/2018 2:16:00 AM 1 Hand Message Hand votes aye.
Next I propose we send our new field counsel to fight the Syrians with 16 legions and two fleets.
Voting will be: Nando, Andras, Jeff,Andrew Ryan, Farrell.
1/30/2018 2:06:00 AM 1 Crown Message Farell is up to confirm his proposal
1/30/2018 1:58:00 AM 1 Crown Message Crown votes in favor
1/29/2018 9:09:00 PM 1 Moon Message Moon votes in favor
1/29/2018 2:55:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Andras then Nando then Farrell are up for the troop raise vote.
1/29/2018 12:54:00 PM 1 Shield Message Shield will vote opposed, which will allow the remaining two factions to decide the outcome as they wish.
1/29/2018 9:49:00 AM 1 Crown Message Jeff is next to vote
1/29/2018 1:55:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes for the raising of the forces to defeat our opponents!
1/28/2018 6:49:00 PM 1 Wreath Message I vote in support. Andrew is up.
1/28/2018 5:47:00 PM 1 Hand Message Im going to propose then we raise 12 legions and 2 fleets per Ryanís suggestion,
Voting order will be Ryan, Andrew, Jeff, Andras, Nando, me.
1/28/2018 2:12:00 PM 1 Shield Message Humm.... okay I see no reason to try to restrain Crown. Actually I see it as a good balance against the power play by Wreath/Moon/Hand with the whole Consul nominations followed by Moon gaining PM with payment of bribes to Wreath/Hand. That certainly smells of a secret deal made to gain power for themselves without any consideration for the safety of Rome. In other words, Crown's talents are the only balance to the power grab of others.

Normally I would vote to support sending a force large enough to ensure victory, however given the current balance of power I am less inclined to rubber stamp the current leaderships programs. Certainly Eagle and to a certain extent Crown may wish to consider the motivations and intents of the current leadership. With no pressure on Rome from outside forces I greatly fear we shall see an attempt to ride roughshod over the noble traditions and honor of the rest of the Senate.

Sitting down and looking for some chilled wine as I await the reaction of others.
1/28/2018 2:01:00 PM 1 Shield Message Finally had enough free time to sit down and take a close look at the game. Haven't played in about 20 years so please forgive anything obvious I'm missing! :-)

A few house keeping questions on the Vassal file.

Moon - showing 8 votes, I'm counting 7 - 2 for Quinctius, 2 for Valerius, 3 for Furius, no knights. Where is the 8th vote coming from?
Showing 5 Talents - thinking it should be down 3 due to the payment of bribes to Wreath and Hand.
PM on Valerius with influence up to 10.

Speaking of which we may want to make a bit clearer in our posts to whether we are asking for bribes for support or are spending talents to buy votes to support the person. "support him for a talent" can be read both ways for example.

So wreath should be at 4 talents in treasury as a result.

Hand should be at 4 talents as well for the same bribe.

Shield, should have 2 Talents on Aemilius.

Missing some of the Treasury info, but not to concerned with that as info is supposed to be secret - although it's easy enough to track playing by EMail for the most part.

Okay now to take a look at the war options next.

1/27/2018 6:33:00 PM 1 Wreath Message We should recruit at least 12 legions. Just barely winning Wars is costly in terms of troop and fleet loses. We also need to build up troops to beat the Punic war next turn. Manpower shortage would be terrible if we are stingy this turn.
1/27/2018 6:20:00 PM 1 Hand Message If that includes interfering with neutral bribes, then I will accept that and then think we raise 10legions and and 2fleets to fight the Syrians. Anyone want to discuss before I make the formal proposal?
1/27/2018 5:55:00 PM 1 Crown Message Dear Consul, dear senators.
It could be an option (donation for influences), but I can't promise just now, in any case I won't use talents to bribe orher senators.
Imho, we should worry more the 2 imminent wars with leaders than the individual wealths

1/27/2018 4:49:00 PM 1 Hand Message Okay, next order of business is the two wars.
I think we should raise some forces and send our Field counsel to fight one. We need either to raise naval to start to fight the 1st Punic, or armies to fight the Syrian. I think fighting the Syrian would be better but Iím concerned about the amount of money Nando is going to receive from Armaments,
Nando, would you be willing to agree to donate the proceeds to Rome in the next round in exchange for influence?
1/27/2018 4:25:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andrew voted yes in email.
Next up is Censor and Furios wins as only candidate.
Andras to announce any prosecutions.
1/27/2018 1:43:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Andras confirmed 1T via email. Need to hear from Andrew on PM vote. It has enough votes but he could veto I suppose.
1/27/2018 1:43:00 PM 1 Hand Message Nomination then proceeds, ryan and I vote yes. Jeff said he was voting no. Nando said he was voting yes. Andrew is technically up next.
1/27/2018 11:43:00 AM 1 Crown Message Crown vote yes for Valerius PM,
1/27/2018 10:40:00 AM 1 Wreath Message While acts was down, voting for consul ended with unanimous approval for both consuls via email.

Farrell became Rome consul and Ryan field consul.

Farrellís first vote was nomination of Valerius to PM. He agreed to vote yes in exchange for 1T. Ryan made the same offer. We need to hear from Andras if he confirms that deal.

Jeff interjected that he was voting against.
1/26/2018 3:00:00 AM 1 Hand Message Technically one of us could veto it, seems unlikely.
Iíd like to be Rome counsel.
1/26/2018 2:54:00 AM 1 Crown Message We ara still waiting for Ryan, but with 42 out of 48 votes the proposal is approved.

Fabius and Cornelius are the new consuls.

Ryan and Farell up to decide who will be Rome Consul
1/26/2018 1:46:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Eagle votes for the nomination for the two consuls. Eagles votes yes!
1/25/2018 2:38:00 PM 1 Shield Message Voting yes as well.
1/25/2018 1:55:00 PM 1 Crown Message Jeff next
1/25/2018 1:54:00 PM 1 Crown Message My senators vote yes for those nominations
1/25/2018 1:07:00 PM 1 Hand Message I approve of this nomination.

Mistake earlier, there were no unprosecuted wars so no minus to speech roll. Indont have the chart but the speech result is wrong
1/25/2018 7:45:00 AM 1 Moon Message Fabius of Wreath and Cornelius of Hand are proposed to be consuls for the coming term.

Voting order is Nando, Jeff, Andrew, Ryan, Andras, Farell
1/24/2018 3:05:00 PM 1 Crown Message Andras is up to nominate 2 senators as consuls.
1/23/2018 12:46:00 PM 1 Wreath Message We need to get win these wars, so we need consuls with high military. For your consideration, Fabius is a four, tied for the highest and I am certainly not a front runner after whiffing on my knight.
1/23/2018 12:26:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andras needs to nominate two senators as counsels, then state order of voting. If it passes the two senators decide on who is Rome/field counsel. If nobody votes for it, Andras loses an influence and nominates again.
Then his senator is the only eligible Censor candidate.
The new Rome counsel can then nominate a pope.
1/23/2018 2:40:00 AM 1 Crown Message We reached Unrest level 4 !

Let's start Senate Phase.

Andras is the Presiding Magistrate as Rome Consul !
1/23/2018 2:32:00 AM 1 Crown Message 11 - 2 = 9 -> +2 unrest level
1/23/2018 2:31:00 AM 1 Crown Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 3

5
1
5

Total: 11

Message from Crown:
Consul speech 3 dice -2 (from unrest)
1/23/2018 2:30:00 AM 1 Crown Message Well, guys I'd say, let's go on.
Andras should only roll the dice not taking decision.

So to speed upthe game, I'll roll for the Consul Speech
1/22/2018 11:45:00 AM 1 Hand Message We have two unprotected wars so unrest goes up by 2
Andras needs to make a speech 3d6 -2.
1/21/2018 12:21:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Iím done. We enter the population phase.
1/21/2018 12:11:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Meh.
1/21/2018 12:11:00 PM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1

Total: 1

Message from Wreath:
Red so we keep. I drew Andrew/Eagleís FL statesmen. Perhaps we can work something out.

Fabius my fl will spend 4 and go for a Knight.
1/21/2018 11:51:00 AM 1 Wreath Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Wreath's hand
1/21/2018 11:51:00 AM 1 Wreath Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
5

Total: 8

Message from Wreath:
Wreath initiative
1/21/2018 4:08:00 AM 1 Crown Message Knight attracted successfully.

Next Ryan/Wreath
1/21/2018 4:01:00 AM 1 Crown Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Crown:
Claudius tries for a Knight using 4 coins
1/21/2018 3:56:00 AM 1 Crown Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

SEN / Aelius

1/21/2018 3:55:00 AM 1 Crown Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

3
3

Total: 6

Message from Crown:
Initiative Crown
1/20/2018 4:04:00 PM 1 Shield Message Recruit a Knight and we are up to Crown, as the vultures start to circle.

1/20/2018 4:03:00 PM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

4

Total: 4

Message from Shield:
Trying for a knight, Calpurnus tosses in 4 talents.
1/20/2018 4:02:00 PM 1 Shield Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

LDR / Antiochus III

1/20/2018 4:01:00 PM 1 Shield Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

1
4

Total: 5

Message from Shield:
Initiative roll
1/20/2018 1:52:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Shield is up next I believe!
1/20/2018 1:51:00 PM 1 Eagle Message No other business for Eagle!
1/20/2018 1:51:00 PM 1 Eagle Message I think that still constitutes success and Flaminius gets a knight!
1/20/2018 1:50:00 PM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

2

Total: 2

Message from Eagle:
Trying to attract a knight for Flaminius. He'll put 5 talents into the pot!
1/20/2018 1:49:00 PM 1 Eagle Message It's not a black card so it's a keeper!
1/20/2018 1:49:00 PM 1 Eagle Draw Strategy card Red deck card: added to Eagle's hand
1/20/2018 1:49:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Drawing a card!
1/20/2018 1:48:00 PM 1 Eagle Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
5

Total: 11

Message from Eagle:
Rolling Eagle initiative.
1/20/2018 12:01:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andrew/Eagle still up.
1/19/2018 11:44:00 AM 1 Hand Message success
Andrew up.
1/19/2018 11:42:00 AM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

6

Total: 6

Message from Hand:
4 talents to recruit knight.
1/19/2018 11:39:00 AM 1 Hand Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

WAR / Syrian War

1/19/2018 11:38:00 AM 1 Hand Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

6
2

Total: 8

Message from Hand:

1/19/2018 4:26:00 AM 1 Moon Message no games or change of FL.

Hand/Farrel is up.
1/19/2018 4:23:00 AM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 1

1

Total: 1

Message from Moon:
muhaha

rolling for a knight
1/19/2018 4:22:00 AM 1 Moon Draw Strategy card Black deck card:

LDR / Hamilcar

1/19/2018 4:22:00 AM 1 Moon Die roll request Request: 6-sided die x 2

5
1

Total: 6

Message from Moon:
for RE
1/19/2018 1:59:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Eagle is happy with the money distribution.
1/18/2018 6:51:00 PM 1 Hand Message I thin Andras could probably just do his indiative. Itís to early to try and influence senators, imo.
1/18/2018 4:09:00 PM 1 Wreath Message this game does not seem like it is going to be very good in a pbem format. Too much input is required. Every action can be reacted to, so we will have to wait 24 hours for even basic stuff. We are two weeks in and have done about five minutes of real time actions. Has anyone played this format before? Am I wrong?
1/18/2018 3:35:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Letís move onto the next step. The game will take wayyyy too long if we have go around the horn for each minor function and then go back around to confirm every minor action.
1/18/2018 3:23:00 PM 1 Crown Message I am fine with my distribution.
1/18/2018 3:10:00 PM 1 Hand Message Okay thatís everyone,
We can either wait 24 hours or if everyone says no changes we can move on.
I believe the state get 100 minus 8 for legions?
No changes for me.
1/18/2018 2:46:00 PM 1 Moon Message Faction collects 10 t (3+3+4)
5 on Furius
5 in treasury
1/18/2018 1:55:00 PM 1 Hand Message Okay just need from moneybags Moon and we can be done with revenue. Can give 24 hours to make changes.
1/18/2018 1:54:00 PM 1 Eagle Message That would be on Flaminius just for the record.
1/18/2018 1:52:00 PM 1 Eagle Message Think I get 5t. They will all go on my Faction leader. Nothing in the treasury!
1/18/2018 2:14:00 AM 1 Crown Message 7 for Crown; 4 to Claudius, 3 to Faction treasure.
1/17/2018 11:15:00 PM 1 Hand Message I created a logfile for my revenue. There are talent chits under the pulldown menu where the numbers are.
1/17/2018 6:13:00 PM 1 Shield Message I have 9, so four on Calpurnus, 2 on Aemlius and 3 in the treasury.
1/17/2018 5:48:00 PM 1 Wreath Message I get 7 as well. 4 on leader Fabius and 3 in the treasury.
1/17/2018 5:40:00 PM 1 Hand Message So basically you can change your allocation after seeing everyones.
I get 7
Ill place four on my fl and three in faction treasury
1/17/2018 5:38:00 PM 1 Hand Message For this step of the revenue phase, decide where you want to allocate your money. This step will be completed when everyone is satisfied with where their money is (if you put it somewhere you can change after someone else places their money.) Once the last person states where there money is, the others will state that they are finished or they will move money. If another person moves money then we will require the other 4 to state that they are finished.
1/17/2018 4:09:00 PM 1 Crown Message Well, let's go on with REVENUE PHASE
1/17/2018 4:02:00 PM 1 Crown Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Popillius

Message from Crown:
here we are
1/17/2018 4:02:00 PM 1 Crown Message Ok let's use ACTS

1st mortality draw
1/17/2018 3:57:00 PM 1 Crown Message 1.05.2 MORTALITY PHASE DRAW: One Mortality Chit is drawn at random from the cup every Mortality Phase.

Doubt: I have to click on 'Draw Mortality Chits' in ACTS or roll a random 36 faces die (as I have seen in other RoR journals) ?

1/17/2018 3:53:00 PM 1 Crown Message The Setup Phase is done. The 1st turn is now beginning. Up first is the Mortality Phase.
1/17/2018 1:20:00 PM 1 Shield Play/Discard card CON / Tax Farmer 4

Message from Shield:
Play on Aemlius and that's all.
1/17/2018 1:20:00 PM 1 Shield Play/Discard card CON / Tax Farmer 2

Message from Shield:
Not following the table flow here. But play on Calpurnus
1/17/2018 12:28:00 PM 1 Wreath Play/Discard card CON / Tax Farmer 1

Message from Wreath:
Play on FL Fabius. I canít make a file at the moment.

Note: taxing big corporate farmers and not the small family ones. So not really corrupt per se.
1/17/2018 10:54:00 AM 1 Crown Message Uploaded a logfile.

Ryan/Wreath next
1/17/2018 10:53:00 AM 1 Crown Play/Discard card CON / Tax Farmer 3

Message from Crown:
Tax Farmer 3 goes to Papirius
1/17/2018 10:53:00 AM 1 Crown Play/Discard card CON / Armaments

Message from Crown:
Adding concession to my Faction Leader Claudius
1/17/2018 5:33:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Sorry Guys at a funeral yesterday so wasn't doing any gaming stuff. No card play from Eagle at this point!
1/16/2018 5:20:00 PM 1 Hand Message Andrew, you are up.
Guys we need to keep this game moving. Its a long game that i dont want to be playing when im eighty. Minor things like this can be done on your phone. If you need someone to make a file for you. Just ask.
1/16/2018 9:30:00 AM 1 Shield Message Humm... thinking we should set up a standard approach for using the log files. I'm thinking we have already had a couple of times where files have been loaded that do not contain the information from prior uploaded files. Thoughts?
1/15/2018 9:47:00 PM 1 Hand Message Dropped a fie.
1/15/2018 12:06:00 PM 1 Hand Play/Discard card CON / Tax Farmer 6

Message from Hand:
Just this for my faction leader.
No file atm.
Eagle/Andrew up.
1/15/2018 11:23:00 AM 1 Shield Message Okay back from Winter Offensive and caught up on sleep. Uploaded a file with my faction leader - Calpurnius. Dropped on the Sicilian Grain as well, but could not find Porcius Cato. So we are using all three Advanced Rules then?
1/15/2018 5:28:00 AM 1 Moon Message Hand/Farrel is next.
1/15/2018 5:28:00 AM 1 Moon Play/Discard card CON / Sicilian Grain

Message from Moon:
played on FL
1/15/2018 5:28:00 AM 1 Moon Play/Discard card STA / Porcius Cato

Message from Moon:
new faction member
1/15/2018 5:25:00 AM 1 Moon Message FL is SEN / Quinctius
1/14/2018 5:03:00 AM 1 Crown Message Andras/Furius (Temporary Rome Consul) up to play his cards
1/14/2018 3:59:00 AM 1 Crown Message That's ok
we can start playing card and
who must... declaring his leader !
1/13/2018 1:20:00 PM 1 Hand Message Should we play starting cards to move things along too? I donít care who their faction leaders are atm.
1/13/2018 12:46:00 PM 1 Crown Message Furius- Faction(2)-Moon-Andras is the Temporary Rome Consul.

Now, we should know the remaining Faction leaders:
-Andras/Moon
-Jeff/Shield
s

1/13/2018 12:44:00 PM 1 Crown Draw Mortality Chits Number Requested: 1
Chits Drawn:
Furius

Message from Crown:
Drawing for Temporary Rome Consul
1/13/2018 12:43:00 PM 1 Crown Message 3.01.6 TEMPORARY ROME CONSUL: Draw a Mortality Chit from the cup. If the ID# drawn does not match an existing Senator put it to the side and draw again until a matching ID# is drawn. The matching ID# is Temporary Rome Consul until new Consuls can be elected during the rst Senate Phase. Place the Rome Consul and Prior Consul markers on his card and add 5 to his In uence. Place all the Mortality Chits back into the cup
1/13/2018 12:42:00 PM 1 Crown Message 3.01.5 LEGIONS: Four Legions are put in the Active Forces boxes.
1/13/2018 12:42:00 PM 1 Crown Message 3.01.4 CARDS: Set up the Early Republic (white) deck as follows:
A. Start with the white-bordered cards.
B. Place the 1st Punic War card in the Inactive Wars section
of the Forum.
C. Separate the 20 black-text Family cards and randomly
deal 3 face-up to each player. Return all the remaining
Family cards to the Early Republic deck.
D. Shuf e the Early Republic deck and deal out 3 cards face-
down to each player. Players should keep any Faction card they get, but any Forum card should be discarded face-up when received and replaced with another card. Repeat until all players have a hand of 3 hidden Faction cards. Shuf e the discarded Forum cards back into the Early Republic deck.
E. Separate 6 random cards from the Middle Republic (gray) deck and combine them with 6 random cards from the Early Republic deck along with the ďEra EndsĒ card. Shuf e these cards and place them at the bottom of the Early Republic deck.
F. Put the remaining Middle and Late Republic (red) decks aside.
G. Place the nished Early Republic deck in the Draw Pile space on the Game Board.
1/13/2018 12:40:00 PM 1 Crown Message Ok guys.
So we are playing with this advanced rules:
-PM - yes
-Provincial Wars -
-Legionary Disbandment & Recall -
1/13/2018 5:21:00 AM 1 Eagle Message Faction Leader for Eagle is Flaminius. File log created and posted in Dropbox folder.
1/12/2018 2:21:00 PM 1 Hand Message Btw, if anyone holds the statesman scipio, do you want to make a deal to give him to me so I can play him and crush some puny Punics?
1/12/2018 1:10:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Fabius the Fabulous will be out faction leader. Can add tonight if needed.
1/12/2018 12:50:00 PM 1 Crown Message I have added marker of Faction Leader on Cornelius

My faction leader is: Claudius
1/12/2018 9:51:00 AM 1 Crown Message Hi guys, I have uploaded a starting file with all senators assigned to their faction.
After that, I have uploaded a new file joining my faction and adding the marker for Faction Leader

Now, everyone of you should do the same.

1/12/2018 9:49:00 AM 1 Crown Message Wreath Ryan Gill Faction1 Fabius Manlius Acilius
Moon Andras Faction2 Furius Valerius Quinctius
Hand Farrell C Faction3 Fulvius Cornelius Junius
Eagle Andrew Faction4 Plautius Julius Flaminius
Shield Jeff Faction5 Terentis Aemilius Calpurnius
Crown Nando Faction6 Sulpicius Papirius Claudius
1/11/2018 12:31:00 PM 1 Eagle Message The Boys from Eagle are:


SEN / Plautius
SEN / Julius
SEN / Flaminius

1/10/2018 5:21:00 PM 1 Shield Message SEN / Terentius
SEN / Aemilius
SEN / Calpurnius
1/10/2018 2:06:00 PM 1 Crown Message We need to know the Senators of:
Eagle-Andrew
Shield-Jeff Miller.
May you list them here, please ?
1/10/2018 2:04:00 PM 1 Crown Message I agree with Farell's suggestion, please list your Senators in tha ACTS Journal, and I'll make a new vlog file with all senators matched to his faction.

Only one question, are we all using the same version of Vassal module ?
I am using the 2.03a...
and I have experienced some difficulties in dealing with Senator cards, sometimes I can't turn over the card ???
1/10/2018 12:46:00 PM 1 Wreath Message My senators are:

SEN / Fabius
SEN / Manlius
SEN / Acilius

I will play with whatever rules. When do we start? Guaranteeing victory. Donít trust Farrell. Etc.
1/10/2018 12:45:00 PM 1 Hand Message I tried again to do my starting senators but could only find 2. It might be wise for us to all just announce our senators and then have one person pull them from the deck. Need the other three to do that.
1/9/2018 6:59:00 PM 1 Shield Message My .02 cents. :-)

PM - yes
Provincial Forces - yes
Legionary Disbandment & Recall - yes

Not familiar with the delaying variant - however we are citizens of Rome!!! Not some minor kingdom struggling to survive so I would go with - no. :-)
1/9/2018 5:00:00 PM 1 Moon Message I uploaded my vlog, though one of my senators is missing.

Agree with the PM.

I like to governorship variant but can also live without that.

I would prefer not employing the 'delaying wars' variant as it would take away the heat from the game. :-)
1/9/2018 1:47:00 PM 1 Crown Message I agree to play with:
-Pontifex maximus.
I am not sure about Provincial wars and other stuff, I'll leave to decide who has more experience than me.

interested to know, which is the advanced rule that make easier to deal with wars during the early turns...

1/9/2018 4:05:00 AM 1 Moon Message SEN / Furius
SEN / Valerius
SEN / Quinctius

will do my turn tonight, though never used VASSAL for RoR.
1/8/2018 11:32:00 PM 1 Hand Message Did you guys not use my first file? I can't find where you put the senators in your files. And your senators need to be face up.
1/8/2018 5:01:00 PM 1 Shield Message Hi Gang,

Just uploaded a file with my Senators.
Couple of quick questions.
Advanced Rules?
All three decks?
Been a long time since I played so looking forward to this. ;-)

I will be pretty much off line Thursday through Sunday. Headed for Winter Offensive [Advanced Squad Leader] and I will most likely have little downtime.... and little sleep!

Regards, Jeff
1/8/2018 4:00:00 PM 1 Hand Message
SEN / Fulvius
SEN / Cornelius
SEN / Junius

There is a button at the top which opens the deck of senators in vassal
1/8/2018 3:46:00 PM 1 Crown Message Crown Senators:
SEN / Sulpicius
SEN / Papirius
SEN / Claudius

But, I haven't understood how to pick my senators in Vassal
1/8/2018 3:31:00 PM 1 Crown Message Copying from another ROR game in ACTS:

The first step is to declare your starting senators. Click "View starting senators and provinces" in ACTS. Then post the starting senators that are listed.
1/8/2018 2:33:00 PM 1 Wreath Message Iíll read the rules today and make my move tonight.
1/8/2018 2:19:00 PM 1 Hand Message Last night I created a shared folder and so did Nando. My initial moves were in mine, but I copied them to Nando. Hopefully you can see them now.
I just started an early republic and got my senators from the deck.
1/8/2018 2:14:00 PM 1 Crown Message Hi guys, I 'd like to use Vassal for this game, but I haven't yet played it PBEM.
So I am not sure on what to do.
If anyone is experienced, he is welcome to setup or to suggest me how to setup the game on Vassal
1/8/2018 12:01:00 PM 1 Shield Message Humm.... not seeing anything in the dropbox folder.

Are we using Vassal for the game?

Regards, Jeff
1/7/2018 11:17:00 PM 1 Hand Message I started a game and a shared dropbox. I found my starting senators, picked a faction leader and put a # for my total votes.
Hopefully that is right.
1/7/2018 9:48:00 AM 1 Crown Message Hello senators,

we are 6, now.

Are you ready to start ?

Anyone experienced for setting up the game ?


1/6/2018 5:22:00 AM 1 Wreath Message Hi guys, here we are.
But we are still looking for a new player
1/5/2018 2:39:00 AM 1 Wreath Message Hi to all guys.
We are almost ready, just searching for the last player.

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