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| Entry # | Time | Turn | Player | Title | Entry |
| 286 | 10/14/2025 11:41:00 AM | Summer 1863 | Confederate | Message |
You're up. |
| 285 | 10/14/2025 11:39:00 AM | Summer 1863 | Confederate | Draw Strategy cards |
7 cards drawn. |
| 284 | 10/14/2025 11:39:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | End Turn | |
| 283 | 10/14/2025 11:37:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 100-sided die x 2 22 43 Message from Confederate: Ports SP in Morehead City, Charleston, New Orleans. CS will -2 = 57- SM Pensacola > Memphis St Marks x2, Charleston > AoT New Orleans x2 Tuscumbian > Memphis New Orleans > Clarksville Generals Alphabetical order Lower Clarksville Highest Marion |
| 282 | 10/14/2025 11:21:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 4 4 6 4 3 Message from Confederate: Reinforcements States Richmond, Memphis, Marion, Weldon, Tuscumbia, Columbus GA, Vicksburg, New Orleans, Pensacola. Ports These dice NA SA WG EG |
| 281 | 10/14/2025 8:06:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
Meade to AoP, Raynolds to AoC and Hancock to AoT |
| 280 | 10/14/2025 8:05:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 666-sided die x 3 154 97 123 Message from Union: 1. Meade 2. Hancock 3. Raynolds 1. AoP 2. AoT 3. AoC |
| 279 | 10/14/2025 8:04:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
SR Bloomington (IN) 6SP to AoT = 9 SP St. Louis 4 SP to Columbus (Ky) DC 5SP to AoP = |
| 278 | 10/14/2025 7:59:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
Reinforcement 8SP in DC = 9SP 6 SP in Bloomington (In) 4 SP in St. Louis = 6SP |
| 277 | 10/14/2025 3:19:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
Good morning, Kentucky joins the Union. * CSA Strategic Will set to 59 (-10 penalty). * USA Strategic Will set to 104 (+10 award). Attrition on map. Have a good day! |
| 276 | 10/13/2025 4:23:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
AoP drops 2 SP and moves to Wilderness (VA) and thats it please do the houskeeping :) |
| 275 | 10/13/2025 4:00:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
Good evening! AoT retreats to Lynchburg. No log. |
| 274 | 10/13/2025 2:56:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
Last one AoP -> Culpeper (VA) -> Gordonsville (VA) and Convert 3 MP's used and attack AoT with 9 SP |
| 273 | 10/13/2025 4:49:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
Memphis 2*/3 CS win. |
| 272 | 10/13/2025 4:49:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 4 4 Message from Confederate: Good morning! Memphis medium battle US +3DRM CS +5DRM |
| 271 | 10/12/2025 2:49:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
AoC -> drop 1 SP -> Columbus (Ky) pick up 3 SP -> Humboldt (TN) pick up 1 Sp = 12 SP and attack Memphis (MS) |
| 270 | 10/12/2025 1:25:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
Drop 2SP -> Culpeper (VA) drop 1 SP -> Strasburg (VA) with 2 SP |
| 269 | 10/12/2025 1:18:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
2*/1 US win. :-) |
| 268 | 10/12/2025 1:17:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 6 1 Message from Confederate: Gordonsville US +1DRM CS +5 DRM (Stuart not involved) |
| 267 | 10/12/2025 1:15:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Confederate: Retreat? (5) |
| 266 | 10/12/2025 1:01:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
Rosie with 4SP's from DC -> Mannasas (VA) pick up 1 SP -> Coulpeper (VA) pick up 1SP = 6SP and attack AnV |
| 265 | 10/12/2025 12:58:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#83: 3 / Major Campaign Conduct up to three moves or conduct one special army-size naval move. No SP, general, or army marker may be moved twice with the same campaign card. You must move a different force each move. Message from Union: My moves will follow |
| 264 | 10/12/2025 12:54:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
Lee only converts Gordonsville... No log. |
| 263 | 10/12/2025 12:42:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
3/3 im eliminated and you can contine no leader loss becouse of combat ratio |
| 262 | 10/12/2025 12:41:00 PM | Spring 1863 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 3 6 Message from Union: Battle of Gordonsville CSA +8 USA +2 |
| 261 | 10/12/2025 11:02:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#29: 2 / Crittenden Compromise Union places (or flips in border states) two PC markers in any spaces free of Confederate SPs or forts which are not Resource spaces, Blockade Runner Ports, or Coastal forts. Void after Emancipation Proclamation. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Confederate: CSA Lee & AoT 2/6 convert Franklin 5/6 attack Gordonsville. |
| 260 | 10/12/2025 10:46:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#47: 3 / CSA Recognizes KY, MO, MD and DE Confederate places a total of two SPs in any single space in KY, MO, MD or DE that contains a general or army in these states. The space can be controlled by either side or neutral and does not require a LOC. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Union: AoP drop 5 SP -> Wilderness (VA)& Convert -> Manassas (VA) and end move there |
| 259 | 10/12/2025 10:16:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#44: 2 / Western Virginia Place three Union PC markers in any West Virginia space free of Confederate SPs. If the space contains a Confederate PC marker, it is flipped. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Confederate: CSA5 AoT to Staunton. |
| 258 | 10/12/2025 8:41:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
I must work this afternoon. :( My next round later. |
| 257 | 10/12/2025 8:33:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#67: 2 / J.B. Eads, Riverine Ironclads The Union Amphibious Assault modifier is increased by two. Message from Union: No file |
| 256 | 10/12/2025 8:27:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Event |
#117: 3 / Clandestine Blockade Runner Port If the state of Florida and the St. Marks, Florida space is Confederate controlled, St. Marks is treated as a blockade runner port for the remainder of the game. Place (no LOC required) 2SPs and a fort (optional if available) in the St. Marks space. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Confederate: CSA4 |
| 255 | 10/12/2025 7:52:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
The sole valueable card in my hand of course. Did upu think of gambling on these dans? You should... :) Lunch time. See you later. |
| 254 | 10/12/2025 7:49:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Discard random Strategy card |
Operations - 3 / Union Naval Supply Shortage Message from Confederate: |
| 253 | 10/12/2025 7:47:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#25: 1 / Confederate Railroad Degradation The Union player may randomly remove one strategy card from the Confederate hand, which is discarded. Message from Union: event no file |
| 252 | 10/12/2025 7:45:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#6: 1 / Ambush Target any enemy cavalry general not located with an army and make a casualty die roll. On a die roll of 1-3 the cavalry general is killed, on a die roll of 4-6 there is no effect. Message from Confederate: CSA3 Forrest to Nashville. |
| 251 | 10/12/2025 7:41:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
Jackson dies... |
| 250 | 10/12/2025 7:41:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 3 Message from Confederate: Clarksville 2*/3 CS win Casualty to Jackson? |
| 249 | 10/12/2025 7:38:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 3 5 Message from Confederate: Interception Medium battle US +4DRM CS +5DRM |
| 248 | 10/12/2025 7:28:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
yes so you can intercept with Jackson |
| 247 | 10/12/2025 7:28:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 2 Message from Union: Intercept? |
| 246 | 10/12/2025 7:28:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#75: 2 / Western Concentration Block Confederate player can either remove or demote an army commander in any state except Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, or Florida for no political cost. OR Confederate Player may move 5 SPs using Strategic Movement (rail connections only) to the same space with a Confederate General who is then activated and must attempt to enter a space with at least one or more Union SPs or fort. If a general casualty occurs in a battle caused by this card, the Commanding General is eligible, this is an exception to the rules. See 4.5 Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Union: strange your file didn't include my move... fixed that AoT -> Clarksville (Ky) |
| 245 | 10/12/2025 7:23:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Event |
#109: 2 / Fortified Lines The Confederate player may place up to two forts in any friendly controlled space with an LOC free of Union SPs and forts. Message from Confederate: |
| 244 | 10/12/2025 7:23:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Return Strategy card to hand |
#109: 2 / Fortified Lines Message from Confederate: |
| 243 | 10/12/2025 7:23:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#109: 2 / Fortified Lines The Confederate player may place up to two forts in any friendly controlled space with an LOC free of Union SPs and forts. Message from Confederate: CSA2 Forts in Little Rock and Nashville. |
| 242 | 10/12/2025 7:08:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
nope so i just convert space |
| 241 | 10/12/2025 7:07:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 4 Message from Union: Jackson |
| 240 | 10/12/2025 7:07:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Message |
flip Louisville (Ky) -> Lebanon (Ky) Convert -> Bowling Green (Ky) Intercept?? |
| 239 | 10/12/2025 7:04:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
2 US losses. CSA will -1 = 69- US will +1(+2) = 94+ Grant can continue his move. |
| 238 | 10/12/2025 7:00:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 5 Message from Confederate: Louisville defense +2DRM (medium battle) |
| 237 | 10/12/2025 6:39:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#123: 1 / Quantrill’s Raiders If played by the Confederate player place or flip 2 PC makers in a Missouri space (except St. Louis), which does not contain Union SPs or forts. If played by the Union player increase Union SW by 1 for increased resolve due to atrocities. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Union: AoT attacks Louisville (Ky) |
| 236 | 10/12/2025 6:37:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#11: 2 / Nathaniel Lyon Union places or flips three PC markers in Missouri. The spaces may not contain Confederate SPs or forts. Message from Confederate: CSA1 Jackson to Nashville. |
| 235 | 10/12/2025 6:27:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#37: 2 / Confederate Scientist Confederate immediately receives three SPs in any friendly controlled space with a LOC, free of Union SPs or forts. No more than one SP per confederate controlled state. No SPs may be placed in Pro-Union spaces. Message from Union: Create AoT with Grant in Command in Frankfort (Ky) |
| 234 | 10/12/2025 6:18:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
Hi Przemek You're up to begin the turn. |
| 233 | 10/12/2025 6:17:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Draw Strategy cards |
7 cards drawn. |
| 232 | 10/12/2025 6:16:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
Ports SP in Charleston, New Orleans, Columbus GA. CSA will: 72- -2 = 70- SM New Orleans > Memphis. Charleston, New Orleans > Richmond. Marion > Drewys Bluff. Corinth, Steven, Columbus > Atlanta |
| 231 | 10/12/2025 6:03:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Union | Draw Strategy cards |
7 cards drawn. |
| 230 | 10/12/2025 6:01:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 4 1 6 5 4 Message from Confederate: NA SA WG EG |
| 229 | 10/12/2025 6:01:00 AM | Spring 1863 | Confederate | Message |
CSA Reinforcements States: Richmond, Louisville, Grand Junction, Camden AR, Morehead City, Atlanta, Corinth, Steven, Marion, New Orleans. |
| 228 | 10/12/2025 6:01:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | End Turn | |
| 227 | 10/11/2025 11:59:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
No no, we will go on. This situation is an interesting challenge, regarding the handicap. :) |
| 226 | 10/11/2025 11:50:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
We can restart if you like... I want you to have fun from our games |
| 225 | 10/11/2025 11:48:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
Sorry, I think I will make a pause. Something to finish regarding my work, and then I have to go out. Anyway, as I told at the end of first turn, I don't see how I can cope with the Emancipation so early. This game is too easy for you. And it will stille become easier now :-) But I'll fight until the end! :) See you later dude |
| 224 | 10/11/2025 11:25:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
SR 6 from DC to AoP = 15 SP 6 from Vernon (In) to Frankfort (Ky) = 9 SP 3 from St. Louis (MO) to Columbus (Ky) All Generals for Frankfort (Ky) |
| 223 | 10/11/2025 11:23:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
8 in DC 6 in Vernon (In) 4 in St. Louis |
| 222 | 10/11/2025 11:19:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#113: 2 / Washington Defenses The Union player may place 3 forts in friendly controlled spaces, unoccupied by Confederate SPs, on or within two spaces of the Union Capital (any location) OR 2 forts in any friendly controlled spaces unoccupied by Confederate SPs. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Confederate: CSA7 Jackson +1SP by rail 10/10 Atlanta. Political phase War guilt US will: 96- -5 = 91- CS will: 80+ -5 (-3) = 72- Attrition on map. |
| 221 | 10/11/2025 11:10:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
US will: 104+ -5 (-3) = 96- CS will: 75- +3 (+2) ) = 80+ |
| 220 | 10/11/2025 10:58:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
2/4 so i lose |
| 219 | 10/11/2025 10:57:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 1 2 Message from Union: Richmond VA Large Battle USA +1 CSA +6 |
| 218 | 10/11/2025 10:55:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
Please roll. |
| 217 | 10/11/2025 10:50:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Discard Strategy card |
Message from Union: |
| 216 | 10/11/2025 10:49:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
And you discard your last card. |
| 215 | 10/11/2025 10:49:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
So drop 1 sp and attack Richmond... |
| 214 | 10/11/2025 10:47:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Event |
#3: 1 / Forward to Richmond Union may activate any Union army within 4 spaces of Richmond, VA. The army must enter Richmond or move as close to Richmond as possible, but may convert spaces to maintain an LOC. All SPs associated with the army must be moved (no dropping off SPs), except 1 SP may be left if the Army began its movement from a fort (if last SP, move completed). If played by the Confederate, he draws a card from the Union hand which is discarded, and the Union player follows the instructions of this card as his next card play. Message from Confederate: CSA6 Please proceed. |
| 213 | 10/11/2025 10:40:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#101: 3 / Chickamauga Confederate Player may move 5 SPs using Strategic Movement (rail connections only) to the same space with a Confederate General who is then activated and must attempt to enter a space with at least one or more Union SPs or fort. If a general casualty occurs in a battle caused by this card, the Commanding General is eligible, this is an exception to the rules. See 4.5. Message from Union: Burnside Vernon (IN) -> Cincinnati (In) -> Famouth (Ky) drop 1 SP -> Lexington (Ky) drop 1SP -> Frankfort KY and i think i used 7 MP's and can't go furthere |
| 212 | 10/11/2025 10:34:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#8: 1 / 3 Cigars Play this card to make an automatic one or two space interception. Intervening space must be friendly controlled and free of enemy SPs. The intervening space may be the one just exited by the moving enemy force. No Generals or SPs may be picked up or dropped off during intercept. Message from Confederate: Forrest +SP 5/10 attack Little Rock => it gives auto 1/1 (both OOS). 7/10 Camden: pick up 1SP 9/10 Little Rock. |
| 211 | 10/11/2025 10:18:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#76: 2 / Great Sioux Uprising Remove one Union commanding general at no SW penalty. Penalties for promoting a general with a lower political value still apply. OR remove ANY Union non-commanding general (even second in commands) from the game. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Union: Since McDowell beat Lee he now needs to put down Uprising and McClellan takes command of the Aop. |
| 210 | 10/11/2025 10:16:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
Yup. You're up. |
| 209 | 10/11/2025 10:10:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
to DC then :) with 1 SP and Banks can i make my move |
| 208 | 10/11/2025 10:09:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
Actually, the result is 2*/1 (it's a medium battle). You can make a Naval retreat to a Union controlled port. |
| 207 | 10/11/2025 10:03:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
I can go right?? |
| 206 | 10/11/2025 10:03:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
1*/1 im destroyed banks on the next turn track if i read it correctly |
| 205 | 10/11/2025 10:02:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 4 5 Message from Union: Willmington (NC) CSA +3 USA |
| 204 | 10/11/2025 9:58:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#66: 1 / Wilson's Creek Either player may move up to two infantry SPs from the same space as if they were led by a General. This move is a Corps move and may enter enemy controlled spaces because the SPs are moving as if they are led by a general. Message from Confederate: CSA4 Jasckson +3SP 4/8 New Bern: pick up 1SP. 6/8 Fayetteville: drop off 1SP. 8/8 attack Wilmington. |
| 203 | 10/11/2025 9:47:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#126: 1 / Valley Devastation If Union infantry SPs occupy all three Shenandoah Valley spaces the Union player places a destroyed Resource marker in all Shenandoah Valley spaces. These destroyed Resource markers cannot be removed and prevent the Confederate player from using the Shenandoah valley as a supply source for the remainder of the game. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Union: Fort in Grodonsvile |
| 202 | 10/11/2025 9:40:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Event |
#129: 2 / USS Cairo Hits Mine and Sinks Reduce Union Amphibious Assault modifier by 1. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Confederate: CSA3 |
| 201 | 10/11/2025 9:38:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#89: 1 / Quaker Guns Play as an interrupt to cancel the activation of any Union general with a strategy rating of 2 or 3. Message from Union: Fort in Wiliamsburg |
| 200 | 10/11/2025 9:32:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Event |
#21: 3 / Confederate Overseas Agent Confederate immediately receives three SPs in any open Blockade Runner Port, no more than one SP per port, but more than one SP per Blockade Zone is permitted. If insufficient ports are available, the excess SPs are lost. Message from Confederate: Hi! CSA2 SP in New Bern, Fort Sumter, Fort Pulaski. |
| 199 | 10/11/2025 9:15:00 AM | Fall 1862 | Union | Play Strategy card as Event |
#59: 2 / Farragut Union may make a naval more with up to three SPs plus one general. Move may pass one ungarrisoned fort without “running the guns” to conduct an amphibious assault (may not pass an ironclad). Ignore first torpedo encountered during naval move. If the port space is captured it immediately receives a Union PC marker. Add +2 to Running the Guns die roll. Message from Union: Banks and 3SP from Washington DC to Wilmington (NC) since i place PC control i also take control of the Fort |
| 198 | 10/10/2025 5:10:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
10/10 Memphis. Going to bed (I must work this week-end. Need to get some rest :) |
| 197 | 10/10/2025 5:09:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 1 6 Message from Confederate: Pope possible interception (2) |
| 196 | 10/10/2025 5:08:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Play Strategy card as Operations |
#111: 2 / Wilson’s Raid Union may place two Union PC markers in any spaces within four spaces (includes river connections) of a single Union cavalry brigade. The four space range CAN be traced through Northeast Alabama. These PC Markers (in contravention of rule 11.3D), CAN be placed in blockade runner ports/ and or resource spaces devoid of Confederate SPs or forts (but may contain an Ironclad or Torpedoes), resulting in their immediate destruction. Remove from deck if event is played. Message from Confederate: CSA1 Longstreet +3SP by rail 8/10 Corinth: pick up 1SP. 9/10 Grand Junction. I roll for possible interception. |
| 195 | 10/10/2025 4:58:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
going to bed early today as i have to get up early :) |
| 194 | 10/10/2025 4:53:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
Convert Humboldt (TN) no file |
| 193 | 10/10/2025 4:52:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
Retreat to Memphis. You have 1MP left. |
| 192 | 10/10/2025 4:45:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
Convert Columbus (Ky) and attack again |
| 191 | 10/10/2025 4:36:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
The AoC can continue its movement. |
| 190 | 10/10/2025 4:30:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
Columbus 5*/4 US win. US will: +3 +1 = 104+ CS will: -5 -1 = 75-. You can move on. |
| 189 | 10/10/2025 4:26:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Die roll request |
Request: 6-sided die x 2 6 1 Message from Confederate: Columbus large battle US +3DRM CS +7DRM |
| 188 | 10/10/2025 4:23:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Union | Message |
no problem :) |
| 187 | 10/10/2025 4:22:00 PM | Fall 1862 | Confederate | Message |
I realize that I couldn't place SP in Norfolk since the beginning since US occupy Fort Monroe. But it had no incidence since I always moved these SP by SM... |
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